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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 17 July 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150717
Seen
Annette Greiner, Antoine Isaac, Carlos Iglesias, Caroline Burle, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Peter Winstanley, Riccardo Albertoni, Sumit Purohit, Yaso Córdova
Scribe
Annette Greiner
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10 link
  2. Approve last week's meeting minutes link
  3. that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity link
Topics
12:59:23 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/07/17-dwbp-irc

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12:59:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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12:59:27 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

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12:59:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:59:28 <trackbot> Date: 17 July 2015
12:59:51 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: present+ deirdrelee

13:00:28 <deirdrelee> RRSAgent:, make logs public
13:00:28 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand ', make logs public', deirdrelee.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand ', make logs public', deirdrelee. Try /msg RRSAgent help

13:00:35 <Caroline> Present+ Caroline

Caroline Burle: Present+ Caroline

13:01:19 <RiccardoAlbertoni> hi all!

Riccardo Albertoni: hi all!

13:01:44 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Present+ RiccardoAlbertoni

Riccardo Albertoni: Present+ RiccardoAlbertoni

13:01:45 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150717
13:02:05 <Eric_Kauz> present+ Eric_Kauz

Eric Kauz: present+ Eric_Kauz

13:02:52 <antoine> present+ antoine

Antoine Isaac: present+ antoine

13:03:03 <deirdrelee> i can only see 4 people on webex..

Deirdre Lee: i can only see 4 people on webex..

13:03:44 <Caroline> Webex link https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

Caroline Burle: Webex link https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

13:03:47 <PeterWinstanley> present+ PeterWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley

13:04:47 <ericstephan> present+ ericstephan

Eric Stephan: present+ ericstephan

13:05:44 <yaso> present+ yaso

Yaso Córdova: present+ yaso

13:05:56 <deirdrelee> zakim, pick a victim

Deirdre Lee: zakim, pick a victim

13:05:56 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is

13:06:02 <deirdrelee> zakim, this is dwbp

Deirdre Lee: zakim, this is dwbp

13:06:02 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I do not see a conference named 'dwbp' in progress or scheduled at this time

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I do not see a conference named 'dwbp' in progress or scheduled at this time

13:06:05 <annette_g> present+ annette_g

Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g

13:06:59 <deirdrelee> scribe: annette_g

(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)

13:07:03 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10

PROPOSED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10

13:07:07 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

13:07:11 <ericstephan> +0 not present

Eric Stephan: +0 not present

13:07:12 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:07:22 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:07:26 <annette_g> +1

+1

13:07:44 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:07:57 <deirdrelee> RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10

RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-07-10

13:08:06 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150717
13:08:09 <SumitPurohit> +0 not present

Sumit Purohit: +0 not present

13:08:13 <annette_g> ACCEPTED: Approve last week's meeting minutes

RESOLVED: Approve last week's meeting minutes

13:08:38 <deirdrelee> topic: data quality vocabulary

1. data quality vocabulary

13:08:42 <Caroline> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

13:08:44 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:09:05 <RiccardoAlbertoni> sure !

Riccardo Albertoni: sure !

13:09:16 <deirdrelee> FPWD is at http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/

Deirdre Lee: FPWD is at http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/

13:09:40 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni:  we haven't received a lot of comments, just some discussion on services

Antoine Isaac: we haven't received a lot of comments, just some discussion on services

13:10:00 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  is dissemination the issue maybe?

Deirdre Lee: is dissemination the issue maybe?

13:10:36 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:10:40 <annette_g> s/RiccardoAlbertoni/antoine
13:11:09 <PeterWinstanley> +q

Peter Winstanley: +q

13:11:19 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

13:11:32 <annette_g> ericstephan: DUV hasn't had much activity either

Eric Stephan: DUV hasn't had much activity either

13:12:25 <deirdrelee> ack PeterWinstanley

Deirdre Lee: ack PeterWinstanley

13:12:46 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  I think we should get 2 groups involved, SharePSI and Open Knowledge

Peter Winstanley: I think we should get 2 groups involved, SharePSI and Open Knowledge

13:12:54 <CarlosIglesias> present+ CarlosIglesias

Carlos Iglesias: present+ CarlosIglesias

13:13:11 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, present+ CarlosIglesias

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, present+ CarlosIglesias

13:13:11 <Zakim> I don't understand 'present+ CarlosIglesias', CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'present+ CarlosIglesias', CarlosIglesias

13:13:31 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  you as chair should email people in those groups

Peter Winstanley: you as chair should email people in those groups

13:14:06 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  you should also give them a time that's not open ended

Peter Winstanley: you should also give them a time that's not open ended

13:14:22 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  something like a feedback template?

Deirdre Lee: something like a feedback template?

13:14:43 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  yes, request feedback on 3 or 4 different things

Peter Winstanley: yes, request feedback on 3 or 4 different things

13:15:00 <ericstephan> +1 PeterWinstanley

Eric Stephan: +1 PeterWinstanley

13:15:22 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  sounds good. Antoine and Eric, what do you think?

Deirdre Lee: sounds good. Antoine and Eric, what do you think?

13:15:38 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:15:42 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:15:48 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

13:16:01 <annette_g> ericstephan:  I like Peter's idea

Eric Stephan: I like Peter's idea

13:16:23 <PeterWinstanley> is the vocabulary standard clearly described?  Is it relevant to their sector?  If it was applied to their sector would it make a significant improvement in the direction which the vocabulary is aimed to deliver?

Peter Winstanley: is the vocabulary standard clearly described? Is it relevant to their sector? If it was applied to their sector would it make a significant improvement in the direction which the vocabulary is aimed to deliver?

13:16:46 <annette_g> ericstephan:  targeting users with specific questions would help us get some feedback

Eric Stephan: targeting users with specific questions would help us get some feedback

13:17:14 <CarlosIglesias> why only those two groups?

Carlos Iglesias: why only those two groups?

13:17:19 <CarlosIglesias> there are other relevant ones

Carlos Iglesias: there are other relevant ones

13:17:21 <annette_g> deirdrelee: maybe put the template on the wiki?

Deirdre Lee: maybe put the template on the wiki?

13:17:24 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:17:35 <CarlosIglesias> e.g. JoinedUp data, International Open Data Charter

Carlos Iglesias: e.g. JoinedUp data, International Open Data Charter

13:17:35 <deirdrelee> ack antoine

Deirdre Lee: ack antoine

13:17:36 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+

Riccardo Albertoni: q+

13:17:49 <annette_g> ericstephan:  we should maybe do our own. Antoine?

Eric Stephan: we should maybe do our own. Antoine?

13:18:42 <annette_g> antoine:  we may be missing some categories of general feedback. we might have a hard time articulating the needs.

Antoine Isaac: we may be missing some categories of general feedback. we might have a hard time articulating the needs.

13:18:45 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni

Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni

13:19:23 <ericstephan> the only enemy of vocabulary feedback it is the holiday season...

Eric Stephan: the only enemy of vocabulary feedback it is the holiday season...

13:19:25 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni:  the issues we have are mostly very specific, but some are more broad, like what is an SLA?

Riccardo Albertoni: the issues we have are mostly very specific, but some are more broad, like what is an SLA?

13:20:30 <RiccardoAlbertoni> yes..

Riccardo Albertoni: yes..

13:20:33 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  action items?

Deirdre Lee: action items?

13:20:37 <antoine> yes

Antoine Isaac: yes

13:21:36 <ericstephan> SumitPurohit - does this sound okay to you?

Eric Stephan: SumitPurohit - does this sound okay to you?

13:21:56 <deirdrelee> ACTION: ericstephan to create template for feedback on DQV and DUV together with all editors

ACTION: ericstephan to create template for feedback on DQV and DUV together with all editors

13:21:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-185 - Create template for feedback on dqv and duv together with all editors [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-185 - Create template for feedback on dqv and duv together with all editors [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24].

13:22:19 <deirdrelee> ACTION: ericstephan to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DUV

ACTION: ericstephan to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DUV

13:22:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-186 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on duv [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-186 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on duv [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-07-24].

13:22:27 <deirdrelee> ACTION: antoine to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DQV

ACTION: antoine to target specific groups to ask for feedback on DQV

13:22:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-187 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on dqv [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-187 - Target specific groups to ask for feedback on dqv [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24].

13:23:05 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  once there's a template, maybe dwbp can use the templates too

Deirdre Lee: once there's a template, maybe dwbp can use the templates too

13:23:16 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  on to DQV

Deirdre Lee: on to DQV

13:23:17 <deirdrelee> topic: open issues for DQV

2. open issues for DQV

13:23:54 <annette_g> antoine:  first issue is 179

Antoine Isaac: first issue is 179

13:24:01 <deirdrelee> DQV doc: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/

Deirdre Lee: DQV doc: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dqv/

13:24:13 <annette_g> putting new termsi into the DCAT namespace

putting new termsi into the DCAT namespace

13:24:29 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  was discussed last week

Deirdre Lee: was discussed last week

13:24:35 <annette_g> antoine:  for the f2f?

Antoine Isaac: for the f2f?

13:24:48 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+

Riccardo Albertoni: q+

13:24:50 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  put it aside until then? maybe should be resolved before then

Deirdre Lee: put it aside until then? maybe should be resolved before then

13:25:10 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  was on the agenda last week, but not discussed

Deirdre Lee: was on the agenda last week, but not discussed

13:25:15 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni

Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni

13:25:41 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni:  from the email, it seemed we would have a release and then consider the reaction from the community

Riccardo Albertoni: from the email, it seemed we would have a release and then consider the reaction from the community

13:26:20 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  sounds like a good issue to add to the feedback template

Deirdre Lee: sounds like a good issue to add to the feedback template

13:26:46 <annette_g> antoine:  issue 180, can we reuse elements from DQ vocabulary

Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-180, can we reuse elements from DAQ vocabulary

13:27:00 <annette_g> s/DQ/DAQ
13:28:17 <annette_g> antoine:  I would prefer to redeclare them because I tried twice to access them and it was down

Antoine Isaac: I would prefer to redeclare them because I tried twice to access them and it was down

13:29:36 <annette_g> antoine:  what kind of commitment would we need?

Antoine Isaac: what kind of commitment would we need?

13:30:12 <annette_g> ACTION: antoine to follow up with DAQ vocab people

ACTION: antoine to follow up with DAQ vocab people

13:30:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Follow up with daq vocab people [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-188 - Follow up with daq vocab people [on Antoine Isaac - due 2015-07-24].

13:30:24 <deirdrelee> Q?

Deirdre Lee: Q?

13:30:45 <deirdrelee> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165

Deirdre Lee: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165

13:30:48 <annette_g> antoine:  issue 165, relationship between DUV and DQV feedback

Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-165, relationship between DUV and DQV feedback

13:31:21 <SumitPurohit> q+

Sumit Purohit: q+

13:31:29 <annette_g> antoine:  are the semantically the same? what would be the fate of a merged class if we put everything into DCAT?

Antoine Isaac: are the semantically the same? what would be the fate of a merged class if we put everything into DCAT?

13:32:00 <deirdrelee> ack SumitPurohit

Deirdre Lee: ack SumitPurohit

13:32:21 <annette_g> SumitPurohit:  DUV feedback strives to include the experience of using the thing.

Sumit Purohit: DUV feedback strives to include the experience of using the thing.

13:32:21 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:32:56 <annette_g> SumitPurohit:  DQV may have the same idea

Sumit Purohit: DQV may have the same idea

13:33:04 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

13:33:11 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:33:29 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q?

Riccardo Albertoni: q?

13:33:40 <annette_g> * it's awfully quiet on deirdrelee's end

* it's awfully quiet on deirdrelee's end

13:34:24 <annette_g> ericstephan:  would like to maybe have an email discussion between editors

Eric Stephan: would like to maybe have an email discussion between editors

13:35:19 <annette_g> ericstephan:  some intended uses may go beyond what the other vocab wants.

Eric Stephan: some intended uses may go beyond what the other vocab wants.

13:35:28 <annette_g> …does that sound okay?

…does that sound okay?

13:35:33 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni:  yep

Riccardo Albertoni: yep

13:35:39 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:35:40 <RiccardoAlbertoni> yes it sounds ok..

Riccardo Albertoni: yes it sounds ok..

13:35:54 <deirdrelee> ack antoine

Deirdre Lee: ack antoine

13:36:35 <annette_g> antoine:  there was not much action to do for the DUV

Antoine Isaac: there was not much action to do for the DUV

13:36:50 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:36:54 <annette_g> antoine:  we should discuss and see whether there is some divergence

Antoine Isaac: we should discuss and see whether there is some divergence

13:36:59 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

13:37:18 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to ericstephan

Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to ericstephan

13:37:18 <annette_g> ericstephan:  would be good to look at examples, for both vocabs

Eric Stephan: would be good to look at examples, for both vocabs

13:37:42 <annette_g> ericstephan:  would love to iterate on some of the examples

Eric Stephan: would love to iterate on some of the examples

13:37:57 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  sounds good for getting into the nitty gritty

Deirdre Lee: sounds good for getting into the nitty gritty

13:38:24 <deirdrelee> issue-181

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-181

13:38:24 <trackbot> issue-181 -- Should we have only the existing class daq:QualityGraph or keep the new class dqv:QualityMetadata? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-181 -- Should we have only the existing class daq:QualityGraph or keep the new class dqv:QualityMetadata? -- open

13:38:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181

13:38:38 <annette_g> antoine:  issue 181 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181

Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-181 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181

13:38:59 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+

Riccardo Albertoni: q+

13:39:07 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni

Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni

13:39:46 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni:  these are probably too technical for discussion with the group, mostly in there to remind us to deal with them

Riccardo Albertoni: these are probably too technical for discussion with the group, mostly in there to remind us to deal with them

13:40:41 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  so, the editors need to make sure they get addressed before the next public working draft

Deirdre Lee: so, the editors need to make sure they get addressed before the next public working draft

13:41:22 <annette_g> antoine:  issue-182

Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-182

13:41:24 <deirdrelee> isue-182

Deirdre Lee: isue-182

13:41:30 <deirdrelee> issue-182

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-182

13:41:30 <trackbot> issue-182 -- The label of daq:QualityGraph does not fit well with the current model -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-182 -- The label of daq:QualityGraph does not fit well with the current model -- open

13:41:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/182

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/182

13:41:59 <RiccardoAlbertoni> yes..

Riccardo Albertoni: yes..

13:42:08 <annette_g> antoine:  maybe treat this one like the previous

Antoine Isaac: maybe treat this one like the previous

13:42:28 <deirdrelee> issue-183

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-183

13:42:28 <trackbot> issue-183 -- We may want to consider a revision of DCAT to make dcat:Dataset and dcat:Distribution subclasses of prov:Entity -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-183 -- We may want to consider a revision of DCAT to make dcat:Dataset and dcat:Distribution subclasses of prov:Entity -- open

13:42:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/183

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/183

13:42:32 <annette_g> antoine:  suggestion for DCAT vocab

Antoine Isaac: suggestion for DCAT vocab

13:43:59 <annette_g> antoine:  we use dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution that way. This is to be compatible with the prov. In my view this is not needed. I would not go through the pain of revising DCAT for this.

Antoine Isaac: we use dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution that way. This is to be compatible with the prov. In my view this is not needed. I would not go through the pain of revising DCAT for this.

13:44:29 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:44:36 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  what effect would that have for DCAT and existing implentations?

Deirdre Lee: what effect would that have for DCAT and existing implentations?

13:44:50 <annette_g> would it be straightforward to do?

would it be straightforward to do?

13:44:55 <RiccardoAlbertoni> q+

Riccardo Albertoni: q+

13:45:03 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

13:46:00 <annette_g> ericstephan:  when prov:entity was created, my impression was as part of the prov WG, we used the term 'thing' quite a bit. everything inherited this overarching concept. I agree with Antoine on the Open World concept.

Eric Stephan: when prov:entity was created, my impression was as part of the prov WG, we used the term 'thing' quite a bit. everything inherited this overarching concept. I agree with Antoine on the Open World concept.

13:46:41 <annette_g> ericstephan:  from a prov:entity standpoint, anything can be one. It wouldn't make sense for dcat to enherit from something like that.

Eric Stephan: from a prov:entity standpoint, anything can be one. It wouldn't make sense for dcat to enherit from something like that.

13:47:28 <deirdrelee> ack RiccardoAlbertoni

Deirdre Lee: ack RiccardoAlbertoni

13:47:37 <annette_g> RiccardoAlbertoni:  probably we can close this issue

Riccardo Albertoni: probably we can close this issue

13:48:11 <annette_g> PROPSED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity

PROPOSED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity

13:48:21 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:48:23 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:48:24 <annette_g> +1

+1

13:48:26 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:48:30 <deirdrelee> s /PRPSED/PROPOSED

Deirdre Lee: s /PRPSED/PROPOSED

13:48:33 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:48:37 <ericstephan> s/PROPSED/PROPOSED/
13:48:53 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

13:48:55 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity

RESOLVED: that we don't want to consider making dcat:dataset and dcat:distribution subclasses of prov:entity

13:48:57 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:49:07 <deirdrelee> CLOSE issue-183

Deirdre Lee: CLOSE ISSUE-183

13:49:07 <trackbot> Closed issue-183.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-183.

13:49:24 <annette_g> antoine:  issue-184

Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-184

13:49:24 <deirdrelee> issue-184?

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-184?

13:49:24 <trackbot> issue-184 -- Is an dqv:ServiceLevelAgreement a kind of certificate, or a standard? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-184 -- Is an dqv:ServiceLevelAgreement a kind of certificate, or a standard? -- open

13:49:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/184

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/184

13:49:34 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:50:37 <annette_g> antoine:  we got some good feedback from a friend of Peter's, David. Maybe he could give useful feedback on this issue.

Antoine Isaac: we got some good feedback from a friend of Peter's, David. Maybe he could give useful feedback on this issue.

13:51:16 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  we can link with terms from IT industry, like ITIL

Peter Winstanley: we can link with terms from IT industry, like ITIL

13:51:35 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  is there any risk in limiting it to only a certificate or standard

Deirdre Lee: is there any risk in limiting it to only a certificate or standard

13:51:48 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  yes

Peter Winstanley: yes

13:52:29 <annette_g> … there's also something called a offering from the commerce side of things

… there's also something called a offering from the commerce side of things

13:52:34 <annette_g> from schema.org

from schema.org

13:52:45 <annette_g> it's basically a pitch

it's basically a pitch

13:53:16 <annette_g> antoine:  If David can also weigh in on this, we should have enough info

Antoine Isaac: If David can also weigh in on this, we should have enough info

13:53:27 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  I'll see what I can do

Peter Winstanley: I'll see what I can do

13:54:00 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  are you saying the offering is a subclass of standard?

Deirdre Lee: are you saying the offering is a subclass of standard?

13:54:03 <annette_g> antoine:  no

Antoine Isaac: no

13:54:10 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:54:29 <annette_g> antoine:  issue-185?

Antoine Isaac: ISSUE-185?

13:54:35 <deirdrelee> issue-185

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-185

13:54:35 <trackbot> issue-185 -- dqv:QualityAnnotation modeling issues -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-185 -- dqv:QualityAnnotation modeling issues -- open

13:54:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/185

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/185

13:55:17 <annette_g> antoine:  we are pretty much decided on this but we wanted to see if anyone has a strong opinion about it

Antoine Isaac: we are pretty much decided on this but we wanted to see if anyone has a strong opinion about it

13:55:39 <annette_g> silence ensues

silence ensues

13:55:57 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  we can close it

Deirdre Lee: we can close it

13:56:11 <annette_g> * missed the number

* missed the number

13:56:22 <deirdrelee> we can close it before next publication, not yet

Deirdre Lee: we can close it before next publication, not yet

13:56:25 <deirdrelee> issue-186

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-186

13:56:25 <trackbot> issue-186 -- There might be no need for a subclass link between dqv:QualityMeasure and daq:Observation. I.e., we could re-use daq:Observation directly. -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-186 -- There might be no need for a subclass link between dqv:QualityMeasure and daq:Observation. I.e., we could re-use daq:Observation directly. -- open

13:56:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/186

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/186

13:56:43 <annette_g> antoine:  if we don't use DAQ directly, this is an easy one

Antoine Isaac: if we don't use DAQ directly, this is an easy one

13:57:30 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  any feedback?

Deirdre Lee: any feedback?

13:57:32 <annette_g> silence ensues

silence ensues

13:58:07 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  summarizes actions

Deirdre Lee: summarizes actions

13:58:28 <Caroline> q+ to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding

Caroline Burle: q+ to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding

13:58:54 <PeterWinstanley> q+

Peter Winstanley: q+

13:59:04 <annette_g> Caroline:  if anyone needs an invitation letter, just ask

Caroline Burle: if anyone needs an invitation letter, just ask

13:59:09 <deirdrelee> ack Caroline

Deirdre Lee: ack Caroline

13:59:09 <Zakim> Caroline, you wanted to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline, you wanted to mention to the group that we may send inviation letters to help whoever needs visa and/or funding

13:59:20 <annette_g> * I can't come :(

* I can't come :(

13:59:26 <deirdrelee> ack PeterWinstanley

Deirdre Lee: ack PeterWinstanley

13:59:39 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  I distributed a couple pages on the template and suggestions for additions

Peter Winstanley: I distributed a couple pages on the template and suggestions for additions

13:59:46 <Caroline> that is sad annette_g :(

Caroline Burle: that is sad annette_g :(

14:00:05 <annette_g> 3 proposals: something to do with forces/tradeoffs, something about projected outcome, something about related patterns

3 proposals: something to do with forces/tradeoffs, something about projected outcome, something about related patterns

14:00:46 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  invites more feedback

Peter Winstanley: invites more feedback

14:01:13 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  is there an issue that we can close?

Deirdre Lee: is there an issue that we can close?

14:01:13 <deirdrelee> action-184

Deirdre Lee: ACTION-184

14:01:13 <trackbot> action-184 -- Peter Winstanley to Review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the bp -- due 2015-07-17 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-184 -- Peter Winstanley to Review the existing template and identify any additional fields that could be added to improve the bp -- due 2015-07-17 -- OPEN

14:01:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/184

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/184

14:01:22 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  well, we first need an agreement

Peter Winstanley: well, we first need an agreement

14:01:35 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  suggests we discuss next meeting

Peter Winstanley: suggests we discuss next meeting

14:02:04 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  next week is DUV, I think.

Deirdre Lee: next week is DUV, I think.

14:02:12 <annette_g> PeterWinstanley:  maybe week after

Peter Winstanley: maybe week after

14:02:36 <annette_g> although the template could work for other docs

although the template could work for other docs

14:02:47 <annette_g> deirdrelee:  next week

Deirdre Lee: next week

14:02:53 <Caroline> bye!

Caroline Burle: bye!

14:02:56 <RiccardoAlbertoni> good weekend!

Riccardo Albertoni: good weekend!

14:02:57 <yaso> Bye!

Yaso Córdova: Bye!

14:02:58 <annette_g> Bye all!

Bye all!

14:02:59 <CarlosIglesias> BYE!

Carlos Iglesias: BYE!

14:02:59 <SumitPurohit> thanks

Sumit Purohit: thanks



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