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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 12 June 2015

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Antoine Isaac, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Christophe Gueret, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Newton Calegari, Peter Winstanley, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Yaso Córdova
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Newton Calegari
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Eric Stephan, Phil Archer
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Yaso Córdova
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  1. APPROVE LAST WEEK'S MINUTES: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-05 link
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12:59:39 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/06/12-dwbp-irc

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12:59:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351

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12:59:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP

12:59:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

12:59:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:59:44 <trackbot> Date: 12 June 2015
13:00:45 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

13:00:53 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aaaa

13:01:12 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:01:33 <Zakim> +??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8

13:01:50 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

13:01:50 <deirdrelee> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:01:50 <deirdrelee> Regrets: Eric Stephan, PhilA
13:01:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see +39.349.096.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, ??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +39.349.096.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, ??P8

13:01:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

13:02:07 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aaaa is me

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aaaa is me

13:02:08 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

13:02:09 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.557.aabb

13:02:13 <Zakim> -??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P8

13:02:25 <riccardoAlbertoni> hi all!

Riccardo Albertoni: hi all!

13:02:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:02:57 <Zakim> +??P12

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12

13:03:01 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me

Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me

13:03:01 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it

13:03:08 <newton> Zakim, +??P12 is me

Newton Calegari: Zakim, +??P12 is me

13:03:08 <Zakim> sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named '+??P12'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named '+??P12'

13:03:22 <newton> Zakim, who's here?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's here?

13:03:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, ??P12

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, ??P12

13:03:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

13:03:27 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150612

Hadley Beeman: hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150612

13:03:31 <newton> Zakim, ??P12 is me

Newton Calegari: Zakim, ??P12 is me

13:03:31 <Zakim> +newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it

13:03:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:04:05 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:04:05 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:04:28 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:04:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, newton, antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, newton, antoine

13:04:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

13:04:52 <Zakim> +??P14

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P14

13:04:57 <Zakim> +??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13

13:05:02 <yaso1> Zakim, ??P13 is yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, ??P13 is yaso

13:05:02 <Zakim> +yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it

13:05:14 <Eric_Kauz> zakim, aabb is me

Eric Kauz: zakim, aabb is me

13:05:14 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it

13:05:31 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:05:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, ??P14, yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, ??P14, yaso

13:05:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see phila, PeterWinstanley, antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see phila, PeterWinstanley, antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

13:06:19 <hadleybeeman> zakim, ??p14 is PeterWinstanley

Hadley Beeman: zakim, ??p14 is PeterWinstanley

13:06:19 <Zakim> +PeterWinstanley; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PeterWinstanley; got it

13:06:47 <yaso1> scribe: yaso

(Scribe set to Yaso Córdova)

13:07:05 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-05

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-05

13:07:34 <yaso1> PROPOSED: APPROVE LAST WEEK'S MINUTES: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-05

PROPOSED: APPROVE LAST WEEK'S MINUTES: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-05

13:07:38 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

13:07:39 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:07:39 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:07:44 <yaso1> +1

+1

13:07:47 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:07:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:07:53 <Zakim> +??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15

13:07:58 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:08:05 <BernadetteLoscio>  BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: BernadetteLoscio

13:08:05 <Makx> +1

Makx Dekkers: +1

13:08:07 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:08:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:08:19 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim,??p15 is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim,??p15 is BernadetteLoscio

13:08:19 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:08:32 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me

13:08:32 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

13:08:34 <yaso1> zakim, mute yaso

zakim, mute yaso

13:08:34 <Zakim> yaso should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: yaso should now be muted

13:08:40 <hadleybeeman> zakim, yaso1 is yaso

Hadley Beeman: zakim, yaso1 is yaso

13:08:40 <Zakim> sorry, hadleybeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso1'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, hadleybeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso1'

13:08:41 <laufer> Zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, mute me

13:08:41 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:08:53 <hadleybeeman> scribe: yaso1
13:08:58 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:08:58 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:09:57 <laufer> thank you, Zakim

Carlos Laufer: thank you, Zakim

13:10:30 <hadleybeeman> RESOLVED: APPROVE LAST WEEK'S MINUTES: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-05

RESOLVED: APPROVE LAST WEEK'S MINUTES: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-06-05

13:10:44 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:10:45 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

13:10:47 <Zakim> -riccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -riccardoAlbertoni

13:11:12 <yaso1> topic: Vote on the BP document next PWD

1. Vote on the BP document next PWD

13:11:19 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni

13:11:23 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:11:23 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

13:11:27 <BernadetteLoscio> 1 min

Bernadette Farias Loscio: 1 min

13:12:03 <phila> -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html BP Doc Editor's Draft

Phil Archer: -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html BP Doc Editor's Draft

13:12:20 <BernadetteLoscio> im sorry

Bernadette Farias Loscio: im sorry

13:12:29 <BernadetteLoscio> i dont know whats wrong :(

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i dont know whats wrong :(

13:12:56 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: yes!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes!

13:13:14 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: we went in to the comments track

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we went in to the comments track

13:13:38 <yaso1> ... we wrote some notes for each comment, the comments are from

... we wrote some notes for each comment, the comments are from

13:13:48 <yaso1> ... (inaudible)

... (inaudible)

13:14:18 <BernadetteLoscio> im gonna try another way

Bernadette Farias Loscio: im gonna try another way

13:14:28 <BernadetteLoscio> you can check the comment tracker

Bernadette Farias Loscio: you can check the comment tracker

13:14:39 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: sorry :-/

Bernadette Farias Loscio: sorry :-/

13:14:52 <yaso1> newton: BernadetteLoscio was saying that she went to the comments tracker

Newton Calegari: BernadetteLoscio was saying that she went to the comments tracker

13:15:06 <yaso1> ... there is some comments that I would like to check,

... there is some comments that I would like to check,

13:15:09 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

13:15:25 <yaso1> ... I don't know if BernadetteLoscio has another comment, or if it is fine

... I don't know if BernadetteLoscio has another comment, or if it is fine

13:15:47 <yaso1> ... we closed a lot of the comments. Some are still open because people did not answered emails

... we closed a lot of the comments. Some are still open because people did not answered emails

13:16:01 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/?status=open&

Newton Calegari: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/?status=open&

13:16:35 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: do you want to talk about the comments that are still open?

Hadley Beeman: do you want to talk about the comments that are still open?

13:16:55 <yaso1> newton: they are open because BernadetteLoscio have not a conclusion on that

Newton Calegari: they are open because BernadetteLoscio have not a conclusion on that

13:17:22 <yaso1> ... I think that the group must say if it is ok or not

... I think that the group must say if it is ok or not

13:18:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:18:19 <gatemezi> I see also that there are many comments from cgueret ...Maybe he can say something here

Ghislain Atemezing: I see also that there are many comments from cgueret ...Maybe he can say something here

13:18:19 <yaso1> newton: we need to ckech with BernadetteLoscio if it is right

Newton Calegari: we need to ckech with BernadetteLoscio if it is right

13:18:22 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:18:22 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:18:30 <yaso1> ... all of the comments of the community are answered

... all of the comments of the community are answered

13:19:01 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: talk about the comments that are still open

Hadley Beeman: talk about the comments that are still open

13:19:19 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: I'm not sure if the group wants to go comment on them

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'm not sure if the group wants to go comment on them

13:19:26 <yaso1> yes

yes

13:19:54 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy?

13:19:57 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: some comments, they were considered in the document. Other ones were note considered

Bernadette Farias Loscio: some comments, they were considered in the document. Other ones were note considered

13:20:05 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 10 (71%), PeterWinstanley (50%), BernadetteLoscio (36%)

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 10 (71%), PeterWinstanley (50%), BernadetteLoscio (36%)

13:20:16 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: i wrote note on each comments. I don't know if I can close them

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i wrote note on each comments. I don't know if I can close them

13:20:24 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:20:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, PeterWinstanley, yaso (muted), laufer (muted), riccardoAlbertoni, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, PeterWinstanley, yaso (muted), laufer (muted), riccardoAlbertoni, BernadetteLoscio

13:20:27 <yaso1> ... or if the group needs a resolution for them

... or if the group needs a resolution for them

13:20:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see MTCarrasco, gatemezi, cgueret, laufer, Makx, PeterWinstanley, antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MTCarrasco, gatemezi, cgueret, laufer, Makx, PeterWinstanley, antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton,

13:20:27 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

13:20:29 <Zakim> +??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2

13:20:31 <hadleybeeman> zakim mute 10

Hadley Beeman: zakim mute 10

13:20:45 <hadleybeeman> zakim, mute 10

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute 10

13:20:45 <Zakim> sorry, hadleybeeman, I do not know which phone connection belongs to 10

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, hadleybeeman, I do not know which phone connection belongs to 10

13:20:48 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P2 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P2 is me

13:20:48 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it

13:21:04 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: we need to have the resolution for each of the commenters

Hadley Beeman: we need to have the resolution for each of the commenters

13:21:43 <hadleybeeman> Zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: Zakim, who is noisy?

13:21:43 <yaso1> ... what I think will be great is if we go thru each comment that is still open

... what I think will be great is if we go thru each comment that is still open

13:21:54 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PeterWinstanley (100%), BernadetteLoscio (65%)

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PeterWinstanley (100%), BernadetteLoscio (65%)

13:22:03 <cgueret> gatemezi, I'm ok with all what Bernadette suggested by mail recently so we may be able to close many of those comments now

Christophe Gueret: gatemezi, I'm ok with all what Bernadette suggested by mail recently so we may be able to close many of those comments now

13:22:04 <hadleybeeman> zakim, mute PeterWinstanley

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute PeterWinstanley

13:22:04 <Zakim> PeterWinstanley should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: PeterWinstanley should now be muted

13:22:11 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

13:22:25 <BernadetteLoscio> im trying to say that we should see the comments

Bernadette Farias Loscio: im trying to say that we should see the comments

13:22:34 <gatemezi> cool then cgueret. That is more than 60% to close

Ghislain Atemezing: cool then cgueret. That is more than 60% to close

13:22:46 <cgueret> ;-)

Christophe Gueret: ;-)

13:22:53 <newton> https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3008

Newton Calegari: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3008

13:22:57 <yaso1> newton: if the group can check if it is ok or not, Ill send the link now

Newton Calegari: if the group can check if it is ok or not, Ill send the link now

13:23:06 <Zakim> +??P17

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17

13:23:10 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: the tracker says we have 12 open comments

Hadley Beeman: the tracker says we have 12 open comments

13:23:21 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ??P17 is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ??P17 is BernadetteLoscio

13:23:21 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:23:22 <yaso1> lots of noise

lots of noise

13:23:46 <yaso1> zakim, who is noisy?

zakim, who is noisy?

13:23:47 <hadleybeeman> Where are we on this comment? http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3028

Hadley Beeman: Where are we on this comment? http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3028

13:24:03 <Zakim> yaso1, listening for 17 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (73%)

Zakim IRC Bot: yaso1, listening for 17 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (73%)

13:24:05 <MTCarrasco> very very noisy +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: very very noisy +1

13:24:36 <BernadetteLoscio> yes

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes

13:24:38 <BernadetteLoscio> you cant hear me

Bernadette Farias Loscio: you cant hear me

13:24:48 <BernadetteLoscio> sorry :(

Bernadette Farias Loscio: sorry :(

13:24:50 <yaso1> Berna: maybe you can write

Bernadette Farias Loscio: maybe you can write

13:24:51 <BernadetteLoscio> yes[

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes[

13:25:18 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: i was asking about the comments on IRC

Hadley Beeman: i was asking about the comments on IRC

13:25:18 <BernadetteLoscio> i sent a message to him with

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i sent a message to him with

13:25:27 <BernadetteLoscio> we dealt with this in the doc

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we dealt with this in the doc

13:25:34 <BernadetteLoscio> for me its ok

Bernadette Farias Loscio: for me its ok

13:25:38 <BernadetteLoscio> you could close

Bernadette Farias Loscio: you could close

13:25:48 <BernadetteLoscio> ok

Bernadette Farias Loscio: ok

13:26:13 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3029

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3029

13:26:33 <BernadetteLoscio> i wrote a note about that

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i wrote a note about that

13:26:36 <yaso1> \ too much noise

\ too much noise

13:26:48 <newton> Zakim, who's noisy?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's noisy?

13:27:02 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: I sent a message to him, for each comment

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I sent a message to him, for each comment

13:27:03 <Zakim> newton, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (9%), BernadetteLoscio (90%)

Zakim IRC Bot: newton, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (9%), BernadetteLoscio (90%)

13:27:23 <yaso1> for each comment I wrote a note, and he has not responded yet

for each comment I wrote a note, and he has not responded yet

13:27:38 <gatemezi> +1 on BernadetteLoscio note for that one

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 on BernadetteLoscio note for that one

13:27:54 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: if cgueret is happy with all of this comments

Hadley Beeman: if cgueret is happy with all of this comments

13:28:13 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: the 33, in my opinion, should be discussed in dq vocabulary

Bernadette Farias Loscio: the 33, in my opinion, should be discussed in dq vocabulary

13:28:45 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: your saying that it is not relevant for the BP doc, but it's useful for the vocabularies

Hadley Beeman: your saying that it is not relevant for the BP doc, but it's useful for the vocabularies

13:28:59 <newton> This one, for instance: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3030

Newton Calegari: This one, for instance: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/68239/WD-dwbp-20150224/3030

13:29:12 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: I think that this is not something that we can use in the BP document, I think we have 3 or 4 comments like this one

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think that this is not something that we can use in the BP document, I think we have 3 or 4 comments like this one

13:29:29 <cgueret> hadleybeeman, he is

Christophe Gueret: hadleybeeman, he is

13:29:52 <hadleybeeman> @cgueret Sorry, what do you mean?

Hadley Beeman: @cgueret Sorry, what do you mean?

13:30:08 <cgueret> you asked if I was happy with the comments ;-)

Christophe Gueret: you asked if I was happy with the comments ;-)

13:30:09 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: we have actions for this

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have actions for this

13:30:21 <hadleybeeman> @cgueret I see. Thanks!

Hadley Beeman: @cgueret I see. Thanks!

13:30:22 <yaso1> ... we don't have the result yet

... we don't have the result yet

13:30:46 <cgueret> (I guess, not hearing what you say, just reading the notes...)

Christophe Gueret: (I guess, not hearing what you say, just reading the notes...)

13:31:01 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: the comment 30 and 31, it says that we should have a BP for versioning, and I answered that we have bps for this, but generic

Bernadette Farias Loscio: the comment 30 and 31, it says that we should have a BP for versioning, and I answered that we have bps for this, but generic

13:31:30 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: in this case, for example, we have the BP for versioning, but we don't have what he is asking

Bernadette Farias Loscio: in this case, for example, we have the BP for versioning, but we don't have what he is asking

13:31:41 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: ok, we need to have sure that he is ok with that

Hadley Beeman: ok, we need to have sure that he is ok with that

13:32:15 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: in some cases, the comments were added to the new version and in other cases I think that there is no way we can add the comments

Bernadette Farias Loscio: in some cases, the comments were added to the new version and in other cases I think that there is no way we can add the comments

13:32:47 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: we need to demonstrate that we took the comments serious, we have to present to the director of w3c all the comments and emails so that she or he can see

Hadley Beeman: we need to demonstrate that we took the comments serious, we have to present to the director of w3c all the comments and emails so that she or he can see

13:33:17 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: it sounds like you're making great progress, but we need to make sure that the comments were all properly attended

Hadley Beeman: it sounds like you're making great progress, but we need to make sure that the comments were all properly attended

13:33:33 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: It's ok, I understand, I'm learning

Bernadette Farias Loscio: It's ok, I understand, I'm learning

13:33:49 <yaso1> ... I agree and I fully understand that we need feedback

... I agree and I fully understand that we need feedback

13:34:07 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: we have other comments from cgueret

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have other comments from cgueret

13:34:21 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: he said that he is happy :-)

Hadley Beeman: he said that he is happy :-)

13:34:27 <cgueret> :)

Christophe Gueret: :)

13:34:36 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: ok. And the other comments are from Andrea Perego

Bernadette Farias Loscio: ok. And the other comments are from Andrea Perego

13:35:21 <cgueret> We also had one from Herbert recently by mail, not sure that one has been captured in the tracker. But it may be already solved actually

Christophe Gueret: We also had one from Herbert recently by mail, not sure that one has been captured in the tracker. But it may be already solved actually

13:35:24 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: to Andrea comments, because we don't know if he is happy, I don't think we can close

Hadley Beeman: to Andrea comments, because we don't know if he is happy, I don't think we can close

13:35:43 <yaso1> ... so the comments should remain open, we can't close it

... so the comments should remain open, we can't close it

13:36:16 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: I think you should send another email to andrea asking if she is ok with that

Hadley Beeman: I think you should send another email to andrea asking if she is ok with that

13:36:42 <gatemezi> Should we keep track of "I am happy" from all the commenters?

Ghislain Atemezing: Should we keep track of "I am happy" from all the commenters?

13:36:47 <yaso1> ... we have to show that we tried to reach him. We can't ignore the comments..

... we have to show that we tried to reach him. We can't ignore the comments..

13:36:58 <hadleybeeman> yes, gatemezi.  We need to keep track of them

Hadley Beeman: yes, gatemezi. We need to keep track of them

13:37:11 <hadleybeeman> so we can show them to the Director at the Transition meeting.

Hadley Beeman: so we can show them to the Director at the Transition meeting.

13:37:14 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: in the last meeting, deirdre talked about the contents section

Bernadette Farias Loscio: in the last meeting, deirdre talked about the contents section

13:37:27 <gatemezi> Great! So cgueret should send an email for that?!

Ghislain Atemezing: Great! So cgueret should send an email for that?!

13:37:27 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: I was thinking on how to change it

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I was thinking on how to change it

13:37:48 <hadleybeeman> @gatemezi Yes, cgueret should send an email to say that his comments are resolved.

Hadley Beeman: @gatemezi Yes, cgueret should send an email to say that his comments are resolved.

13:38:05 <yaso1> ... I would like to discuss this section, I would like to discuss what needs to be changed

... I would like to discuss this section, I would like to discuss what needs to be changed

13:39:06 <yaso1> deirdrelee: the thing is

Deirdre Lee: the thing is

13:39:07 <cgueret> Is it ok if I comment back in the "proposed resolution" box of each comment ?

Christophe Gueret: Is it ok if I comment back in the "proposed resolution" box of each comment ?

13:39:45 <gatemezi> Not sure cgueret. You have access there as a member

Ghislain Atemezing: Not sure cgueret. You have access there as a member

13:39:54 <hadleybeeman> @cgueret Please do it in email, with the number of each comment in it — so we can have a URL to the email.

Hadley Beeman: @cgueret Please do it in email, with the number of each comment in it — so we can have a URL to the email.

13:39:56 <yaso1> ... in a w3c document it might be interpreted as if there was a relationship (sorry, deirdre, not sure if you said exactly that)

... in a w3c document it might be interpreted as if there was a relationship (sorry, deirdre, not sure if you said exactly that)

13:40:03 <cgueret> ok!

Christophe Gueret: ok!

13:40:26 <yaso1> q+

q+

13:40:31 <yaso1> zakim, unmute me

zakim, unmute me

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13:40:41 <yaso1> q-

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13:41:12 <yaso1> zakim, unmute me

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13:41:21 <yaso1> you can hear me?

you can hear me?

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13:41:45 <hadleybeeman> zakim, yaso is yaso1

Hadley Beeman: zakim, yaso is yaso1

13:41:45 <Zakim> +yaso1; got it

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13:41:56 <yaso1> tks hadleybeeman

tks hadleybeeman

13:42:21 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: deirdrelee can you write, I did not understood

Bernadette Farias Loscio: deirdrelee can you write, I did not understood

13:42:25 <deirdrelee> what is the aim of context section? why focus on dataset versioning?

Deirdre Lee: what is the aim of context section? why focus on dataset versioning?

13:43:23 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: we talked about it. That is why I did it: to try to explain and keep a previous explanation on this

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we talked about it. That is why I did it: to try to explain and keep a previous explanation on this

13:43:42 <yaso1> ... this other one talks about distribution, so I think we should explain the idea

... this other one talks about distribution, so I think we should explain the idea

13:43:46 <Makx> just for info, inthe work on the European DCAT Application Profile we had a lot of discussion on this

Makx Dekkers: just for info, inthe work on the European DCAT Application Profile we had a lot of discussion on this

13:43:48 <yaso1> deirdrelee: that makes sense

Deirdre Lee: that makes sense

13:44:08 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:44:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, PeterWinstanley (muted), yaso1, laufer (muted), riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, PeterWinstanley (muted), yaso1, laufer (muted), riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, BernadetteLoscio

13:44:09 <Makx> and the content of the Context section might be very controversial

Makx Dekkers: and the content of the Context section might be very controversial

13:44:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see MTCarrasco, gatemezi, cgueret, laufer, Makx, PeterWinstanley, antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MTCarrasco, gatemezi, cgueret, laufer, Makx, PeterWinstanley, antoine, yaso1, BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, newton,

13:44:12 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot

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13:44:43 <yaso1> zakim, mute yaso1

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13:44:46 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:44:57 <Makx> Some people think that time series are not versions but distributions

Makx Dekkers: Some people think that time series are not versions but distributions

13:45:14 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: it is not a formal model

Bernadette Farias Loscio: it is not a formal model

13:45:34 <Makx> and moreover, DCAT has no way to express relationsips between datasets

Makx Dekkers: and moreover, DCAT has no way to express relationsips between datasets

13:46:31 <hadleybeeman> Any other thoughts?

Hadley Beeman: Any other thoughts?

13:46:35 <hadleybeeman> (to the group)

Hadley Beeman: (to the group)

13:47:03 <Makx> what would you use to link Dataset001 to Dataset001_W1?

Makx Dekkers: what would you use to link Dataset001 to Dataset001_W1?

13:47:19 <Makx> Things like that may make the section controversial

Makx Dekkers: Things like that may make the section controversial

13:47:24 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: we need to talk about this. Even in DCAT we have a way to talk about this

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we need to talk about this. Even in DCAT we have a way to talk about this

13:47:40 <BernadetteLoscio> PAV ontology

Bernadette Farias Loscio: PAV ontology

13:47:48 <yaso1> ... so, Makx, Phil sent me a message with PAV ontology

... so, Makx, Phil sent me a message with PAV ontology

13:47:50 <cgueret> +1 to PAV

Christophe Gueret: +1 to PAV

13:48:01 <yaso1> ... so maybe we can use something like this

... so maybe we can use something like this

13:48:04 <cgueret> and Memento for those who like HTTP headers

Christophe Gueret: and Memento for those who like HTTP headers

13:48:15 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:48:33 <deirdrelee> There is an assumption in this diagram that the distribution is separate from version

Deirdre Lee: There is an assumption in this diagram that the distribution is separate from version

13:48:34 <cgueret> but we can just propose that as possible implementations, we don't have to recommend anything in particular

Christophe Gueret: but we can just propose that as possible implementations, we don't have to recommend anything in particular

13:48:58 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: I want to encourage the group to use the queue

Hadley Beeman: I want to encourage the group to use the queue

13:49:14 <gatemezi> Interesting! I am still confused where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

Ghislain Atemezing: Interesting! I am still confused where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

13:49:16 <Makx> OK sorry

Makx Dekkers: OK sorry

13:49:31 <Makx> +q

Makx Dekkers: +q

13:49:42 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: we can make this change. Im gonna work on this section about the content

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we can make this change. Im gonna work on this section about the content

13:49:46 <deirdrelee> i agree this is a really important issue. but I think if we say something in the bp doc on this, we should formally decide how to represent it

Deirdre Lee: i agree this is a really important issue. but I think if we say something in the bp doc on this, we should formally decide how to represent it

13:49:50 <hadleybeeman> q+ gatemezi to talk about where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

Hadley Beeman: q+ gatemezi to talk about where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

13:50:02 <yaso1> and if deirdrelee can review that would be great

and if deirdrelee can review that would be great

13:50:05 <hadleybeeman> ack makx

Hadley Beeman: ack makx

13:50:07 <BernadetteLoscio> http://pav-ontology.github.io/pav/

Bernadette Farias Loscio: http://pav-ontology.github.io/pav/

13:50:10 <yaso1> Makx: are you on the call or just irc?

Makx Dekkers: are you on the call or just irc?

13:50:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:50:54 <Makx> zaki, IPcaller is me

Makx Dekkers: zaki, IPcaller is me

13:51:03 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:51:05 <Makx> zakim, IPcaller is me

Makx Dekkers: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:51:05 <Zakim> +Makx; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx; got it

13:51:16 <hadleybeeman>  <gatemezi> Interesting! I am still confused where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

Hadley Beeman: <gatemezi> Interesting! I am still confused where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

13:51:22 <Makx> +q

Makx Dekkers: +q

13:51:23 <BernadetteLoscio> Dataset!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Dataset!

13:51:37 <hadleybeeman> ack gatemezi

Hadley Beeman: ack gatemezi

13:51:38 <Zakim> gatemezi, you wanted to talk about where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

Zakim IRC Bot: gatemezi, you wanted to talk about where do we use the versioning: is it on the Dataset or on the Distribution?

13:51:41 <hadleybeeman> ack d

Hadley Beeman: ack d

13:52:47 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

13:53:08 <hadleybeeman> ack m

Hadley Beeman: ack m

13:53:20 <hadleybeeman> q+ mtc

Hadley Beeman: q+ mtc

13:53:26 <hadleybeeman> q+ MTCarrasco

Hadley Beeman: q+ MTCarrasco

13:53:30 <hadleybeeman> q- mtc

Hadley Beeman: q- mtc

13:53:33 <hadleybeeman> ack makx

Hadley Beeman: ack makx

13:53:33 <yaso1> Makx: we have actually tried

Makx Dekkers: we have actually tried

13:53:42 <deirdrelee> hi antoine, it's because of the context sectionin bp doc that uses distributions vs versioning example

Deirdre Lee: hi antoine, it's because of the context sectionin bp doc that uses distributions vs versioning example

13:54:01 <yaso1> ... what the BP document calls versioning is not versioning

... what the BP document calls versioning is not versioning

13:54:58 <hadleybeeman> makx: It comes down to: what is the relationship between datasets?

Makx Dekkers: It comes down to: what is the relationship between datasets? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ]

13:55:16 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks Makx!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks Makx!

13:55:16 <yaso1> Makx: I can assure you that it is no going to be an easy discussion

Makx Dekkers: I can assure you that it is no going to be an easy discussion

13:55:21 <hadleybeeman> ack mt

Hadley Beeman: ack mt

13:55:24 <deirdrelee> antoine, that would be the easy answer alright :) but then maybe people are still confused how to describe time series...

Deirdre Lee: antoine, that would be the easy answer alright :) but then maybe people are still confused how to describe time series...

13:55:39 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:55:49 <Makx> +1 to Carrasco to clearly define the words

Makx Dekkers: +1 to Carrasco to clearly define the words

13:56:02 <gatemezi> Clear definition somewhere in the glossary might help the readers

Ghislain Atemezing: Clear definition somewhere in the glossary might help the readers

13:56:04 <antoine> deirdrelee: why having to describe this in an otherwise general BP document? The level is just not the same.

Deirdre Lee: why having to describe this in an otherwise general BP document? The level is just not the same. [ Scribe Assist by Antoine Isaac ]

13:56:32 <hadleybeeman> ack b

Hadley Beeman: ack b

13:56:33 <yaso1> MTCarrasco: the mininum we need is clear definition on the words that we use

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the mininum we need is clear definition on the words that we use

13:56:45 <deirdrelee> under which BP? versioning? or new one?

Deirdre Lee: under which BP? versioning? or new one?

13:56:48 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: Im not triong to propose a formal presentation for this

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Im not trying to propose a formal presentation for this

13:56:59 <yaso1> s/triong/trying
13:57:26 <Makx> +q

Makx Dekkers: +q

13:57:28 <deirdrelee> ...or under BP 25 Provide real-time access..

Deirdre Lee: ...or under BP 25 Provide real-time access..

13:57:37 <yaso1> BernadetteLoscio: we can remove the content section, but the problem remains, because it is not clear what is a version, what is a ditribution

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we can remove the content section, but the problem remains, because it is not clear what is a version, what is a ditribution

13:57:42 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:57:51 <yaso1> .. we dont know what is the meaning of this words

.. we dont know what is the meaning of this words

13:57:52 <antoine> deirdrelee: I meant, the BP doc in general does not make so specific recommendations, in general

Deirdre Lee: I meant, the BP doc in general does not make so specific recommendations, in general [ Scribe Assist by Antoine Isaac ]

13:57:54 <hadleybeeman> ack makx

Hadley Beeman: ack makx

13:57:58 <hadleybeeman> zakim, close the queue

Hadley Beeman: zakim, close the queue

13:57:58 <Zakim> ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed

13:58:05 <yaso1> ... for now, we can remove, but the problem remains

... for now, we can remove, but the problem remains

13:58:21 <yaso1> Makx: I would suggest to keep it there

Makx Dekkers: I would suggest to keep it there

13:58:33 <hadleybeeman> ack deirdre

Hadley Beeman: ack deirdre

13:58:36 <yaso1> +1 to Makx

+1 to Makx

13:58:42 <Makx> it'll raise comments for sure

Makx Dekkers: it'll raise comments for sure

13:58:52 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy?

13:59:06 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (15%)

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (15%)

13:59:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to Makx

Riccardo Albertoni: +1 to Makx

13:59:33 <MTCarrasco> The general sound quality in this call is really bad

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The general sound quality in this call is really bad

13:59:46 <Makx> no please leave it there!

Makx Dekkers: no please leave it there!

14:00:01 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: Makx is suggesting that you leave it there

Hadley Beeman: Makx is suggesting that you leave it there

14:00:20 <deirdrelee> q+ to ask if we vote on bp next  week?

Deirdre Lee: q+ to ask if we vote on bp next week?

14:00:24 <yaso1> ... so we can get responses from the outside world, but you are the editor, so it is your decision

... so we can get responses from the outside world, but you are the editor, so it is your decision

14:00:26 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz

Zakim IRC Bot: -Eric_Kauz

14:00:28 <BernadetteLoscio> Thank you!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Thank you!!!

14:00:31 <Zakim> -Makx

Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx

14:00:35 <MTCarrasco> bye

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye

14:00:37 <yaso1> hadleybeeman: we should vote on BO next week

Hadley Beeman: we should vote on BP next week

14:00:39 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco

14:00:41 <gatemezi> Thanks all. bye!

Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks all. bye!

14:00:42 <yaso1> s/BO/BP
14:00:45 <PeterWinstanley> bye

Peter Winstanley: bye

14:00:48 <laufer> bye all, nice wknd

Carlos Laufer: bye all, nice wknd

14:00:50 <yaso1> Bye all! Thanks :-)

Bye all! Thanks :-)

14:00:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> Thanks.. bye!

Riccardo Albertoni: Thanks.. bye!

14:00:52 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

14:00:54 <Zakim> -yaso1

Zakim IRC Bot: -yaso1

14:00:59 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:01:01 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:01:02 <BernadetteLoscio> bye!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: bye!

14:01:09 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee

14:01:14 <Zakim> -riccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -riccardoAlbertoni

14:01:24 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:01:31 <Zakim> -PeterWinstanley

Zakim IRC Bot: -PeterWinstanley

14:06:30 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, newton, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, newton, in DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

14:06:31 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:06:31 <Zakim> Attendees were HadleyBeeman, riccardoAlbertoni, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, Eric_Kauz, PeterWinstanley, BernadetteLoscio, laufer, MTCarrasco, yaso1, Makx

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were HadleyBeeman, riccardoAlbertoni, +1.609.557.aabb, deirdrelee, newton, antoine, Eric_Kauz, PeterWinstanley, BernadetteLoscio, laufer, MTCarrasco, yaso1, Makx



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