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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 05 June 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605
Seen
Antoine Isaac, Bart van Leeuwen, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Hadley Beeman, Newton Calegari, Peter Winstanley, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Sumit Purohit
Guests
Newton Calegari
Chair
Deirdre Lee
Scribe
Phil Archer, Peter Winstanley
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft link
  2. That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine, Riccardo and Christophe for their work link
  3. That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues link
  4. Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29 link
Topics
12:57:17 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/06/05-dwbp-irc

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12:57:21 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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12:57:21 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

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12:57:22 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:57:22 <trackbot> Date: 05 June 2015
12:57:31 <phila> zakim, room for 20?

Phil Archer: zakim, room for 20?

12:57:32 <Zakim> sorry, phila; could not schedule an adhoc conference; no bridge connection

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12:58:05 <phila> Agh! We've lost our zakim facility, so, Bart, we need to switch to WebEx now. Hang on while I get up the details

Phil Archer: Agh! We've lost our zakim facility, so, Bart, we need to switch to WebEx now. Hang on while I get up the details

12:58:17 <deirdrelee> hm, i could dial in though...

Deirdre Lee: hm, i could dial in though...

12:58:34 <phila> Really? OK, let me try that. I'd rather not hurredly rearrange things

Phil Archer: Really? OK, let me try that. I'd rather not hurredly rearrange things

12:59:06 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

12:59:06 <Zakim> sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, deirdrelee, I don't know what conference this is

12:59:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

12:59:13 <phila> zakim, this will be DWBP

Phil Archer: zakim, this will be DWBP

12:59:13 <Zakim> ok, phila, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started

12:59:24 <phila> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

12:59:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], ??P8, [IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see [IPcaller], ??P8, [IPcaller.a]

12:59:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

12:59:33 <phila> zakim, ipcaller.a is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller.a is me

12:59:33 <Zakim> +phila; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it

12:59:39 <deirdrelee> zakim, [IPcaller] is me

Deirdre Lee: zakim, [IPcaller] is me

12:59:39 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it

12:59:45 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10

12:59:50 <deirdrelee> zakim, ??P8 is PeterWinstanley

Deirdre Lee: zakim, ??P8 is PeterWinstanley

12:59:50 <Zakim> +PeterWinstanley; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PeterWinstanley; got it

12:59:52 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p10 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p10 is me

12:59:52 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

13:00:01 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

13:00:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen

13:00:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

13:01:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:01:13 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:01:13 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:02:27 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.554.aaaa

13:02:35 <ericstephan> zakim, aaaa is me

Eric Stephan: zakim, aaaa is me

13:02:35 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it

13:03:20 <phila> chair: deirdrelee
13:03:20 <phila> Guest: Newton Calegari
13:03:50 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

13:03:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, antoine, ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, antoine, ericstephan

13:03:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman, trackbot, rhiaro

13:04:01 <Zakim> + +1.609.947.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.947.aabb

13:04:18 <deirdrelee> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605
13:04:24 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

13:04:40 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605
13:04:46 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150605

13:05:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:05:07 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:05:07 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:05:20 <Zakim> + +1.617.646.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.646.aacc

13:05:27 <phila> regrets+ Annette, Carol, Hadley

Phil Archer: regrets+ Annette, Carol, Hadley

13:05:27 <deirdrelee> Hi BernadetteLoscio, will you be able to join on the phone today?

Deirdre Lee: Hi BernadetteLoscio, will you be able to join on the phone today?

13:05:33 <BernadetteLoscio> yes

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes

13:05:43 <deirdrelee> great

Deirdre Lee: great

13:06:08 <phila> scribe: phila

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

13:06:10 <SumitPurohit> zakim:aacc is me
13:06:11 <phila> scribeNick: PeterWinstanley

(Scribe set to Peter Winstanley)

13:06:18 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

13:06:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, +1.609.947.aabb, antoine, +1.617.646.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, +1.609.947.aabb, antoine, +1.617.646.aacc

13:06:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman,

13:06:20 <Zakim> ... trackbot, rhiaro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, rhiaro

13:06:27 <Eric_Kauz> zakim,aabb is me

Eric Kauz: zakim,aabb is me

13:06:27 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it

13:06:34 <phila> zakim, aacc is SumitPurohit

Phil Archer: zakim, aacc is SumitPurohit

13:06:34 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit; got it

13:06:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:06:40 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:06:40 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:06:41 <phila> scribeNick: phila

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

13:06:46 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:06:53 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is here?

13:06:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, Eric_Kauz, antoine, SumitPurohit, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see deirdrelee, PeterWinstanley, phila, BartvanLeeuwen, ericstephan, Eric_Kauz, antoine, SumitPurohit, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman

13:06:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit, ericstephan, antoine, PeterWinstanley, Zakim, RRSAgent, BartvanLeeuwen, newton, deirdrelee, phila, hadleybeeman,

13:06:55 <Zakim> ... trackbot, rhiaro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, rhiaro

13:06:57 <phila> regrets- Hadley

regrets- Hadley

13:07:00 <BernadetteLoscio> can you hear me?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: can you hear me?

13:07:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:07:24 <deirdrelee> no BernadetteLoscio

Deirdre Lee: no BernadetteLoscio

13:07:29 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me

13:07:29 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

13:07:41 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

13:07:49 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:07:49 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:07:57 <BernadetteLoscio>  im gonna connect again

Bernadette Farias Loscio: im gonna connect again

13:08:04 <phila> deirdrelee: Overall agenda today is to focus on the FPWD of the DQV and DUV, and the next WD og hte BP doc

Deirdre Lee: Overall agenda today is to focus on the FPWD of the DQV and DUV, and the next WD on the BP doc

13:08:15 <phila> deirdrelee: So while we're waiting for Berna to reconnect...

Deirdre Lee: So while we're waiting for Berna to reconnect...

13:08:26 <newton> s/og hte/on the
13:08:37 <newton> s/og hte/of the
13:08:46 <phila> antoine: I can go first...

Antoine Isaac: I can go first...

13:08:51 <phila> Topic: data Quality Vocab

1. data Quality Vocab

13:09:01 <phila> antoine: We're still doing some editing (as we speak)

Antoine Isaac: We're still doing some editing (as we speak)

13:09:21 <phila> antoine: riccardoAlbertoni is committing a new version of the diagram. We think we're happy with things as they are

Antoine Isaac: riccardoAlbertoni is committing a new version of the diagram. We think we're happy with things as they are

13:09:27 <phila> ... still some editorial changes to make.

... still some editorial changes to make.

13:09:36 <phila> ... Certainly not finished but we'd like to get some feedback, certainly.

... Certainly not finished but we'd like to get some feedback, certainly.

13:09:55 <phila> ... It's also quite stable in that we want to discuss the issues we've identified.

... It's also quite stable in that we want to discuss the issues we've identified.

13:10:02 <phila> ... We think the time has come to get more feedback

... We think the time has come to get more feedback

13:10:23 <phila> antoine: My understanding is that we've had some feedback and have answered it, apparently with success, so that's the status.

Antoine Isaac: My understanding is that we've had some feedback and have answered it, apparently with success, so that's the status.

13:10:34 <phila> deirdrelee: So can we have a quick run through the doc?

Deirdre Lee: So can we have a quick run through the doc?

13:10:47 <phila> ... and then we can decide whether we want to vote on it.

... and then we can decide whether we want to vote on it.

13:11:21 <phila> deirdrelee: What's the status of DUV, Eric S?

Deirdre Lee: What's the status of DUV, Eric S?

13:11:31 <phila> ericstephan: Yes, we're happy to go for a vote today.

Eric Stephan: Yes, we're happy to go for a vote today.

13:11:48 <phila> ... We can walk through the model, what's changed, based on feedback that we've been getting.

... We can walk through the model, what's changed, based on feedback that we've been getting.

13:12:17 <phila> ... I noticed about 15 mins ago that Joao Paulo has given us some extensive feedback. He would prefer we wait, but because of the timing of his comments, we feel that we need comments from the group

... I noticed about 15 mins ago that Joao Paulo has given us some extensive feedback. He would prefer we wait, but because of the timing of his comments, we feel that we need comments from the group

13:12:37 <phila> ... And we really need to push for public comment so we're still hoping for a vote today.

... And we really need to push for public comment so we're still hoping for a vote today.

13:12:52 <phila> Topic: DQV Run Through

2. DQV Run Through

13:13:10 <antoine> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html

Antoine Isaac: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html

13:13:45 <phila> antoine: The draft starts with an intro that I hope reflects what has been expressed

Antoine Isaac: The draft starts with an intro that I hope reflects what has been expressed

13:13:52 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:13:54 <phila> ... including some comments from Annette this week that were useful

... including some comments from Annette this week that were useful

13:14:11 <phila> antoine: Then the conformance section

Antoine Isaac: Then the conformance section

13:14:17 <phila> antoine: namespaces section

Antoine Isaac: namespaces section

13:14:59 <phila> antoine: The two bigger issues are whether we can use DAQ and whether we should use the DCAT namespace. We feel it's good to get public feedback.

Antoine Isaac: The two bigger issues are whether we can use DAQ and whether we should use the DCAT namespace. We feel it's good to get public feedback.

13:15:06 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:15:09 <phila> antoine: Then the overview os mostly the diagram

Antoine Isaac: Then the overview os mostly the diagram

13:15:10 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:15:10 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:15:16 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit

Zakim IRC Bot: -SumitPurohit

13:15:26 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit

Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit

13:15:49 <phila> antoine: The one on feedback is now an annotation (sub class of oa:Annotation)

Antoine Isaac: The one on feedback is now an annotation (sub class of oa:Annotation)

13:15:54 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aadd

13:16:01 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noicy?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noicy?

13:16:01 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, deirdrelee.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, deirdrelee.

13:16:03 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is noisy?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, who is noisy?

13:16:07 <phila> antoine: So we hope this gives a clear overview of where we want to go

Antoine Isaac: So we hope this gives a clear overview of where we want to go

13:16:14 <Zakim> deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (24%)

Zakim IRC Bot: deirdrelee, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (24%)

13:16:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aadd is me

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aadd is me

13:16:18 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

13:16:33 <phila> antoine: There isn't yet a detailed list of all terms. One for lack of time but also it's less important than the overview and examples we feedl.

Antoine Isaac: There isn't yet a detailed list of all terms. One for lack of time but also it's less important than the overview and examples we feedl.

13:16:47 <phila> antoine: Overview also includes the issues that we want to get feedback on wrt modelling decisions.

Antoine Isaac: Overview also includes the issues that we want to get feedback on wrt modelling decisions.

13:17:00 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:17:00 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:17:08 <phila> ... Whether it's good to have quality annotation as sub class of oa:aAnnottaion, whether a certificate is a standard etc.

... Whether it's good to have quality annotation as sub class of oa:aAnnottaion, whether a certificate is a standard etc.

13:17:19 <phila> antoine: But we need more feedback from outside the group.

Antoine Isaac: But we need more feedback from outside the group.

13:17:32 <phila> antoine: Section 5 has several examples. We haven't done all the examples we want to include.

Antoine Isaac: Section 5 has several examples. We haven't done all the examples we want to include.

13:17:41 <phila> ... But we think we already have enough

... But we think we already have enough

13:17:47 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

13:18:10 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:18:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:18:28 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:18:28 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:18:41 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:18:41 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer

13:18:48 <deirdrelee> ack laufer

Deirdre Lee: ack laufer

13:18:57 <phila> phila: I've taken a quick look. I like the way it sets out the problem and direction.

Phil Archer: I've taken a quick look. I like the way it sets out the problem and direction.

13:19:29 <phila> laufer: I have a doubt about the notation in the diagram. Is this a standard way to show it/ You have two dotted rectangles that seem to be a container for information. Is this a standard way to show this?

Carlos Laufer: I have a doubt about the notation in the diagram. Is this a standard way to show it/ You have two dotted rectangles that seem to be a container for information. Is this a standard way to show this?

13:19:54 <phila> antoine: That's meant to represent the containment of statement within gnamed graphs. I'm not aware of a standard way to express this.

Antoine Isaac: That's meant to represent the containment of statement within gnamed graphs. I'm not aware of a standard way to express this.

13:20:06 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

13:20:10 <phila> laufer: We don't see the direct relation between these things, but I understand its some sort of container.

Carlos Laufer: We don't see the direct relation between these things, but I understand its some sort of container.

13:20:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:20:34 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:20:34 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:20:40 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:20:40 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:20:40 <laufer> ok

Carlos Laufer: ok

13:21:02 <phila> antoine: We can add a small note if you think that's needed?

Antoine Isaac: We can add a small note if you think that's needed?

13:21:13 <phila> ... As long as it's a 2 line note we can do it quickly

... As long as it's a 2 line note we can do it quickly

13:21:23 <phila> ... Just the graph containmnet thing.

... Just the graph containmnet thing.

13:21:48 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:21:48 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer

13:22:22 <phila> laufer: I think that we can understand this. And the examples are clear. It's only a little thing.

Carlos Laufer: I think that we can understand this. And the examples are clear. It's only a little thing.

13:22:30 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:22:34 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:22:34 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:22:46 <phila> deirdrelee: So, Antoine, anything else for us to go through?

Deirdre Lee: So, Antoine, anything else for us to go through?

13:22:46 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio

ack BernadetteLoscio

13:22:46 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:22:47 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

13:23:20 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Thyere is a class of user feedback. have we discussed this before? There is a similar class in DUV

Bernadette Farias Loscio: There is a class of user feedback. have we discussed this before? There is a similar class in DUV

13:23:28 <phila> ... Will they be the same?

... Will they be the same?

13:23:40 <phila> antoine: Easy answer: The doc says that there's a big fat Issue-3 ??

Antoine Isaac: Easy answer: The doc says that there's a big fat ISSUE-3 ??

13:23:43 <PeterWinstanley> For SLA are we linking to standard definitions in ITIL, COBIT etc?  http://www.mitsm.de/service-level-agreement-management-en

Peter Winstanley: For SLA are we linking to standard definitions in ITIL, COBIT etc? http://www.mitsm.de/service-level-agreement-management-en

13:23:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> What is the relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? (Issue-165).

Riccardo Albertoni: What is the relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? (ISSUE-165).

13:23:56 <phila> issue-165?

ISSUE-165?

13:23:56 <trackbot> issue-165 -- what relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-165 -- what relation between duv:Feedback and dqv:Feedback? -- open

13:23:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/165

13:23:57 <newton> s/Thyere/There
13:24:13 <phila> antoine: And publishing the doc gives us a chance to get feedback on this.

Antoine Isaac: And publishing the doc gives us a chance to get feedback on this.

13:24:23 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I'll look at it next week and feedback.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'll look at it next week and feedback.

13:24:32 <phila> deirdrelee: So it seems that overall... (lost)...

Deirdre Lee: So it seems that overall... (lost)...

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13:25:08 <phila> deirdrelee: The doc is mature enough for a FPWD. The ideas are there, the foundations, issues are specified. So Antoine, let's go ahead and vote?

Deirdre Lee: The doc is mature enough for a FPWD. The ideas are there, the foundations, issues are specified. So Antoine, let's go ahead and vote?

13:25:56 <phila> PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft

PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft

13:26:04 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:26:05 <phila> +1

+1

13:26:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

13:26:06 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:26:08 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:26:13 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

13:26:14 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:26:18 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:26:33 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:26:37 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:26:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:26:39 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:26:46 <PeterWinstanley> +!

Peter Winstanley: +!

13:26:46 <phila> RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft

RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Quality Vocabulary at http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html be published as a First Public Working Draft

13:26:50 <PeterWinstanley> +1

Peter Winstanley: +1

13:27:16 <phila> PROPOSED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine and Riccardo for their work

PROPOSED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine and Riccardo for their work

13:27:25 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

13:27:25 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:27:27 <phila> +1

+1

13:27:29 <PeterWinstanley> +1

Peter Winstanley: +1

13:27:29 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:27:30 <laufer> +congrats

Carlos Laufer: +congrats

13:27:34 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:27:34 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:27:37 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:27:38 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:27:40 <antoine> there's christophe as well!

Antoine Isaac: there's christophe as well!

13:28:00 <phila> RESOLVED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine, Riccardo and Christophe for their work

RESOLVED: That the WG formally thanks the editors, Antoine, Riccardo and Christophe for their work

13:28:00 <ericstephan> https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

Eric Stephan: https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

13:28:03 <antoine> thanks everyone!

Antoine Isaac: thanks everyone!

13:28:09 <phila> Topic: dataset Usage Vocabulary

3. dataset Usage Vocabulary

13:28:36 <phila> ericstephan: We seem to have lost the title... but that wasn't the change I wanted to cover

Eric Stephan: We seem to have lost the title... but that wasn't the change I wanted to cover

13:28:45 <ericstephan> https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#examples

Eric Stephan: https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#examples

13:29:17 <phila> ericstephan: If you go to the examples area, we've tried to elabroate ... rather than examples of each class, we've given examples of usage, feedback and citation.

Eric Stephan: If you go to the examples area, we've tried to elabroate ... rather than examples of each class, we've given examples of usage, feedback and citation.

13:29:29 <ericstephan> https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#vocabulary-specification

Eric Stephan: https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html#vocabulary-specification

13:29:39 <phila> ericstephan: We've also improved the model based on some feedback from Annette this past week and from Frederic Hirsch on the OA model

Eric Stephan: We've also improved the model based on some feedback from Annette this past week and from Frederic Hirsch on the OA model

13:29:56 <phila> ... You might notice that we're relying on PROV with some sub pros and classes

... You might notice that we're relying on PROV with some sub pros and classes

13:30:19 <phila> ... the comments last week lead us to move that Experience class, replaced with PROV Activity

... the comments last week lead us to move that Experience class, replaced with PROV Activity

13:30:28 <phila> ... I know there are some problems this morning that we need to look at.

... I know there are some problems this morning that we need to look at.

13:30:43 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:30:53 <phila> ericstephan: The 3rd part was explaining the relationship with other vocabs. Ours is more of a grouping, so we're expecting a lot of comments on our choices of other vocabs

Eric Stephan: The 3rd part was explaining the relationship with other vocabs. Ours is more of a grouping, so we're expecting a lot of comments on our choices of other vocabs

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13:31:06 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:31:08 <phila> ericstephan: Which ones might be better suited etc. We'll welcome that in the citations community.

Eric Stephan: Which ones might be better suited etc. We'll welcome that in the citations community.

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13:31:21 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

13:31:21 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

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13:31:34 <phila> SumitPurohit: Experience and Citation part, we've improved it a couple of times and there's still more to do we think.

Sumit Purohit: Experience and Citation part, we've improved it a couple of times and there's still more to do we think.

13:31:51 <phila> SumitPurohit: There's a lack of standards there and people differ in what term they use

Sumit Purohit: There's a lack of standards there and people differ in what term they use

13:32:00 <phila> ... So everyionbe's comment will be welcome there

... So everyone's comment will be welcome there

13:32:28 <phila> ack deirdrelee

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13:32:42 <laufer> s/everyionbe/everyone/
13:32:48 <phila> deirdrelee: So... in terms of FPWD, what exactly are you looking for in terms of specific feedback.

Deirdre Lee: So... in terms of FPWD, what exactly are you looking for in terms of specific feedback.

13:33:07 <phila> deirdrelee: The DQV has listed the issues - should we do the same here?

Deirdre Lee: The DQV has listed the issues - should we do the same here?

13:33:31 <SumitPurohit> Because of we have accidentally  removed header, this page claim itself as "W3C Recommendation" which is is not as of now

Sumit Purohit: Because of we have accidentally removed header, this page claim itself as "W3C Recommendation" which is is not as of now

13:33:45 <phila> ericstephan: That's definitely something that's of value to a reviewer. I feel we've been addressing issues since the April f2f and there have been some questions that have come up

Eric Stephan: That's definitely something that's of value to a reviewer. I feel we've been addressing issues since the April f2f and there have been some questions that have come up

13:33:55 <phila> ... I don't know if those kind of questions should be in the doc.

... I don't know if those kind of questions should be in the doc.

13:34:02 <phila> ... I'm open to ideas

... I'm open to ideas

13:34:06 <phila> q+

q+

13:34:13 <phila> ack me

ack me

13:34:29 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:34:41 <phila> http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#intro

http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#intro

13:35:51 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:35:53 <phila> phila: Points to the eg of the BP doc's FPWD having a specific intro paragraph

Phil Archer: Points to the eg of the BP doc's FPWD having a specific intro paragraph

13:35:58 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio

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13:36:10 <ericstephan> +1 phila

Eric Stephan: +1 phila

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13:36:35 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I agree, we should include some issues. I think our biggest concerns are around the citations and application so we can include some issues around those.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I agree, we should include some issues. I think our biggest concerns are around the citations and application so we can include some issues around those.

13:36:40 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:36:41 <phila> ... So I think we can include some specific issues

... So I think we can include some specific issues

13:36:47 <phila> ... we can do this together.

... we can do this together.

13:36:57 <phila> deirdrelee: So in that context, the vocab seems to be quite mature

Deirdre Lee: So in that context, the vocab seems to be quite mature

13:37:05 <phila> ... wanna vote?

... wanna vote?

13:37:29 <phila> deirdrelee: If BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit and ericstephan think so, we could vote.

Deirdre Lee: If BernadetteLoscio, SumitPurohit and ericstephan think so, we could vote.

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13:37:45 <phila> ericstephan: So, like Antoine, can we have a few hours after the meeting?

Eric Stephan: So, like Antoine, can we have a few hours after the meeting?

13:37:49 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:37:56 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

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13:37:56 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

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13:37:57 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me

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13:38:00 <phila> deirdrelee: Yep, because we're going to vote on timing shortly

Deirdre Lee: Yep, because we're going to vote on timing shortly

13:38:27 <phila> laufer: I want to suggest that in the intro to the doc, we have some text about the types of uses that its' designed to help.

Carlos Laufer: I want to suggest that in the intro to the doc, we have some text about the types of uses that its' designed to help.

13:38:39 <phila> ... We can see that there is a kind of developer or an end user

... We can see that there is a kind of developer or an end user

13:38:53 <phila> ... It's not too clear whether the user is an actual end user or a developer.

... It's not too clear whether the user is an actual end user or a developer.

13:39:02 <deirdrelee> ack laufer

Deirdre Lee: ack laufer

13:39:06 <phila> ... Maybe an informal example in the intro?

... Maybe an informal example in the intro?

13:39:19 <phila> zakim, who is noisy?

zakim, who is noisy?

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13:39:27 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:39:32 <Zakim> phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (86%), ericstephan (15%), BernadetteLoscio (81%)

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13:39:53 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

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13:40:05 <phila> ericstephan: That's a good example of an issue we should put in the doc, yes, thanks.

Eric Stephan: That's a good example of an issue we should put in the doc, yes, thanks.

13:40:09 <laufer> ok

Carlos Laufer: ok

13:40:10 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

13:40:18 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft

PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft

13:40:57 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:40:59 <ericstephan> wait for it, wait for it...

Eric Stephan: wait for it, wait for it...

13:40:59 <phila> PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues

PROPOSED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues

13:41:27 <ericstephan> Sounds great Phil about your points

Eric Stephan: Sounds great Phil about your points

13:41:45 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:41:45 <phila> +1

+1

13:41:48 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:41:49 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:41:49 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:41:49 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:41:49 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:41:51 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

13:41:51 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:41:51 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

13:41:51 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

13:41:56 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:42:02 <phila> RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues

RESOLVED: That the current editor's draft of the Data Usage Vocabulary at https://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html be published as a First Public Working Draft, but ask the editors to add in text/links concerning specific issues

13:42:20 <laufer> Phil, the formal congrats proposal

Carlos Laufer: Phil, the formal congrats proposal

13:42:21 <phila> PROPOSED: That the WG thanks the editors of the dataset Usage Vocabulary for their work in taking the doc to FPWD

PROPOSED: That the WG thanks the editors of the dataset Usage Vocabulary for their work in taking the doc to FPWD

13:42:25 <phila> +1

+1

13:42:27 <laufer> yes

Carlos Laufer: yes

13:42:29 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:42:30 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:42:31 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

13:42:32 <ericstephan> The dogs in my house abstained from vote

Eric Stephan: The dogs in my house abstained from vote

13:42:39 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:42:39 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

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13:42:42 <phila> Topic: BP Doc

4. BP Doc

13:42:45 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:42:55 <phila> deirdrelee: Going for a hat trick... Over to you Berna

Deirdre Lee: Going for a hat trick... Over to you Berna

13:43:00 <PeterWinstanley> Daft Laddie question:  have/are DQV and DUV linked in to any ISO 15926 (and POSC Caesar) artefacts/standards?

Peter Winstanley: Daft Laddie question: have/are DQV and DUV linked in to any ISO 15926 (and POSC Caesar) artefacts/standards?

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13:43:06 <ericstephan> Yes

Eric Stephan: Yes

13:43:31 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: WE have made some changes on the doc. I sent a message a couple of weeks ago... and got no answer.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: We have made some changes on the doc. I sent a message a couple of weeks ago... and got no answer.

13:43:38 <phila> ... People are focussed on the vocabs right now.

... People are focussed on the vocabs right now.

13:43:41 <deirdrelee> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Deirdre Lee: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

13:43:45 <phila> s/WE/We/
13:44:06 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We included a new section called Context where we tried to explain our context, working with datasets and distributions.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: We included a new section called Context where we tried to explain our context, working with datasets and distributions.

13:44:09 <ericstephan> Peter I haven't looked at this, thank you for the pointer and would appreciate any of your thoughts on this

Eric Stephan: Peter I haven't looked at this, thank you for the pointer and would appreciate any of your thoughts on this

13:44:34 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We changed the challenges section, included a diagram to illustrate the reletaionship |-| the BPs and the challenges, i.e. how to use the BPs

Bernadette Farias Loscio: We changed the challenges section, included a diagram to illustrate the reletaionship |-| the BPs and the challenges, i.e. how to use the BPs

13:44:48 <phila> .., I like the diagram as we have links from the diagram to the BPs

... I like the diagram as we have links from the diagram to the BPs

13:44:59 <phila> ... And the BP about metadata were changed

... And the BP about metadata were changed

13:45:05 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:45:12 <phila> s/..,/.../
13:45:27 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: We included some new BPs (like on structural metadata)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: We included some new BPs (like on structural metadata)

13:45:54 <phila> ... We have separate ones about quality, licensing, versioning etc.

... We have separate ones about quality, licensing, versioning etc.

13:46:14 <phila> ... and there's the new BPs on data Identification from Phil, I propose to include those

... and there's the new BPs on data Identification from Phil, I propose to include those

13:46:42 <phila> ... the ones on feedback wasn't changed

... the ones on feedback wasn't changed

13:46:50 <phila> ... Christophe added back the ones on data preservation

... Christophe added back the ones on data preservation

13:47:22 <phila> ... I gave some examples... so, for example BP 2, provide descriptive metata, there is a link to an example. We plan to have examples for each BP.

... I gave some examples... so, for example BP 2, provide descriptive metata, there is a link to an example. We plan to have examples for each BP.

13:47:38 <phila> ... I also included a new section of examples. That's one we'll use throughout.

... I also included a new section of examples. That's one we'll use throughout.

13:47:41 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:47:49 <phila> ... We still have a lot to do but these are the improvements.

... We still have a lot to do but these are the improvements.

13:48:00 <phila> ack deirdrelee

ack deirdrelee

13:48:11 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:48:52 <phila> deirdrelee: The context section that you've added. The diagram deals with dataset versioning, distributions etc. The diagram makes sense but I'm not sure that it adds to the doc. If anything it might confuuse thing.

Deirdre Lee: The context section that you've added. The diagram deals with dataset versioning, distributions etc. The diagram makes sense but I'm not sure that it adds to the doc. If anything it might confuuse thing.

13:49:02 <phila> ... It's a specific case and it's quite complex, even with DCAT.

... It's a specific case and it's quite complex, even with DCAT.

13:49:10 <phila> ... You're looking at differnet versions over a time series.

... You're looking at differnet versions over a time series.

13:49:21 <phila> ... So you have a relationship between a dataset and a super dataset, then versions

... So you have a relationship between a dataset and a super dataset, then versions

13:49:40 <phila> ... and then in the pink section, you have distributions but they're named, in their titles, as dataset.

... and then in the pink section, you have distributions but they're named, in their titles, as dataset.

13:50:09 <phila> ... There's a lot in theis diagram. We may not want to go that far and if we do, then we need to be very specific in what we mean. Maybe here's how you model a time series

... There's a lot in theis diagram. We may not want to go that far and if we do, then we need to be very specific in what we mean. Maybe here's how you model a time series

13:50:35 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:50:41 <phila> deirdrelee: And the other thing. The external comments that we have talked about are still open (14 of them). These haven't been closed/handled completely.

Deirdre Lee: And the other thing. The external comments that we have talked about are still open (14 of them). These haven't been closed/handled completely.

13:50:51 <deirdrelee> ack ericstephan

Deirdre Lee: ack ericstephan

13:50:53 <phila> ... Sorry to be negative but those are my concerns.

... Sorry to be negative but those are my concerns.

13:51:36 <phila> ericstephan: A general question... around dog food eating... this thing around the data identifiers, vocab re-use... it seems like our language in the vocabs needs to match what's in the BP doc.

Eric Stephan: A general question... around dog food eating... this thing around the data identifiers, vocab re-use... it seems like our language in the vocabs needs to match what's in the BP doc.

13:51:59 <deirdrelee> ack BernadetteLoscio

Deirdre Lee: ack BernadetteLoscio

13:52:14 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: To comment about the comments received. Some we need to close. But I'll be honest, I didn't have time to go into the comment tracker.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: To comment about the comments received. Some we need to close. But I'll be honest, I didn't have time to go into the comment tracker.

13:52:34 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Some were included in the new doc. But as I understand it, the Wg has to vote on each one before it's closed?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Some were included in the new doc. But as I understand it, the Wg has to vote on each one before it's closed?

13:52:48 <phila> ... But some of the commnets were considered in this new section.

... But some of the commnets were considered in this new section.

13:53:14 <phila> ... In the context section, we need to say that a dataset can have multiple versions and that distributions concern specifici versions of datasets.

... In the context section, we need to say that a dataset can have multiple versions and that distributions concern specifici versions of datasets.

13:53:16 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:53:58 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I got some work from... a doc that Phil shared with us some time ago about metadata... I;ll search for the link. But this may not be the best way to show this.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I got some work from... a doc that Phil shared with us some time ago about metadata... I;ll search for the link. But this may not be the best way to show this.

13:54:21 <phila> ... We talk about datasets, and versions and distibutions. Maybe the diagram is not a good one but we should talk about this.

... We talk about datasets, and versions and distibutions. Maybe the diagram is not a good one but we should talk about this.

13:54:26 <phila> deirdrelee: Thanks BernadetteLoscio

Deirdre Lee: Thanks BernadetteLoscio

13:54:37 <phila> deirdrelee: So on that note, do we go ahead for a new FPWD?

Deirdre Lee: So on that note, do we go ahead for a new FP?

13:54:46 <phila> s/WD/
13:54:55 <phila> Scribe means new WD, not FPWD

Scribe means new WD, not FPWD

13:55:56 <phila> phila: have you addressed all the comments received, even if not recorded in the tracker

Phil Archer: have you addressed all the comments received, even if not recorded in the tracker

13:56:06 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: I think so, I can check one by one.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think so, I can check one by one.

13:56:51 <phila> deirdrelee: And have people been e-mailled about their comments being addressed?

Deirdre Lee: And have people been e-mailled about their comments being addressed?

13:57:18 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: No, I think we sent a message to one of them not everyone.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: No, I think we sent a message to one of them not everyone.

13:57:28 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: So we can update the tracker and write to the authors.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: So we can update the tracker and write to the authors.

13:57:58 <phila> deirdrelee: So I think I'd vote against publishing the next BP WD for a week

Deirdre Lee: So I think I'd vote against publishing the next BP WD for a week

13:58:02 <hadleybeeman> +1 to postponing the vote til next week

Hadley Beeman: +1 to postponing the vote til next week

13:58:10 <phila> BernadetteLoscio: Ok, then we can update the tracker and write to the authors.

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Ok, then we can update the tracker and write to the authors.

13:58:22 <ericstephan> sounds like a plan

Eric Stephan: sounds like a plan

13:58:26 <phila> phila: +1 to postpoming by a week

Phil Archer: +1 to postpoming by a week

13:58:49 <riccardoAlbertoni> sorry too noise

Riccardo Albertoni: sorry too noise

13:58:50 <ericstephan> Sounds great

Eric Stephan: Sounds great

13:58:54 <phila> deirdrelee: The vote still stands on DUV and DQV - there's a week to address the caveats in the resolutions

Deirdre Lee: The vote still stands on DUV and DQV - there's a week to address the caveats in the resolutions

13:59:04 <phila> ... And then we can vote on all three this time next week.

... And then we can vote on all three this time next week.

13:59:12 <phila> Topic: Last week's agenda

5. Last week's agenda

13:59:16 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

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13:59:36 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29

PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29

13:59:43 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:59:49 <SumitPurohit> +1

Sumit Purohit: +1

13:59:51 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

13:59:52 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:59:54 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:59:55 <phila> Phila: (I was absent)

Phil Archer: (I was absent)

14:00:03 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:00:08 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29

RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-05-29

14:00:11 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

14:00:21 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:00:27 <laufer> mayve we can postpone the publishing of the vocabularies to publish them together with the bp

Carlos Laufer: mayve we can postpone the publishing of the vocabularies to publish them together with the bp

14:00:28 <ericstephan> have a great weekend!

Eric Stephan: have a great weekend!

14:00:32 <phila> deirdrelee: Thanks everyone for a productive meeting.

Deirdre Lee: Thanks everyone for a productive meeting.

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14:00:39 <laufer> Congrats to all editors and thank you for the hard work!

Carlos Laufer: Congrats to all editors and thank you for the hard work!

14:00:46 <ericstephan> bye bye

Eric Stephan: bye bye

14:00:46 <phila> ... good to see everything loving forward.

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14:00:50 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!

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14:00:52 <laufer> nice wekend... bye

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