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12:56:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351
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12:56:13 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP ←
12:56:13 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←
12:56:14 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:56:14 <trackbot> Date: 08 May 2015
12:56:40 <phila> Regrets+ EricS, Makx
Phil Archer: Regrets+ EricS, Makx ←
12:56:47 <phila> Chair: Hadley
12:56:55 <phila> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150508
12:59:04 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started ←
12:59:11 <Zakim> +annette_g
Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g ←
12:59:48 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit ←
13:00:03 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
13:00:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:00:35 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: -SumitPurohit ←
13:00:47 <deirdrelee> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, [ipcaller] is me ←
13:00:47 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
13:01:00 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.557.aaaa ←
13:01:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:01:05 <phila> zakim, [ is me
Phil Archer: zakim, [ is me ←
13:01:05 <Zakim> +phila; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it ←
13:01:11 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
13:01:17 <Zakim> +SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: +SumitPurohit ←
13:01:27 <phila> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
13:01:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see annette_g, ??P12, deirdrelee, +1.609.557.aaaa, phila, HadleyBeeman, SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see annette_g, ??P12, deirdrelee, +1.609.557.aaaa, phila, HadleyBeeman, SumitPurohit ←
13:01:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see PeterWinstanley, SumitPurohit, annette_g, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, cgueret, phila, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PeterWinstanley, SumitPurohit, annette_g, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, cgueret, phila, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot ←
13:02:09 <phila> zakim, aaaa is Eric_Kauz
Phil Archer: zakim, aaaa is Eric_Kauz ←
13:02:09 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it ←
13:02:12 <phila> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
13:02:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see annette_g, ??P12, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, phila, HadleyBeeman, SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see annette_g, ??P12, deirdrelee, Eric_Kauz, phila, HadleyBeeman, SumitPurohit ←
13:02:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, PeterWinstanley, SumitPurohit, annette_g, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, cgueret, phila, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see BernadetteLoscio, Eric_Kauz, PeterWinstanley, SumitPurohit, annette_g, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, cgueret, phila, rhiaro, hadleybeeman, trackbot ←
13:04:16 <phila> zakim, ??P12 is PeterWinstanley
Phil Archer: zakim, ??P12 is PeterWinstanley ←
13:04:16 <Zakim> +PeterWinstanley; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PeterWinstanley; got it ←
13:05:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:05:31 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:05:31 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
13:05:46 <antoine> zakim, cgueret is with antoine
Antoine Isaac: zakim, cgueret is with antoine ←
13:05:46 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
13:05:52 <Zakim> +??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19 ←
13:07:10 <phila> zakim, mute yaso
Phil Archer: zakim, mute yaso ←
13:07:10 <Zakim> sorry, phila, I do not know which phone connection belongs to yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, phila, I do not know which phone connection belongs to yaso ←
13:07:48 <Zakim> -??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P19 ←
13:08:23 <Zakim> +yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso ←
13:09:27 <phila> scribe: annette_g
(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)
13:09:43 <annette_g> PPROPOSED: approve last week's minutes
PROPOSED: approve last call's minutes https: ←
13:09:57 <hadleybeeman> +0
Hadley Beeman: +0 ←
13:10:11 <yaso1> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:10:11 <SumitPurohit> +0
Sumit Purohit: +0 ←
13:10:15 <Eric_Kauz> +1
13:10:15 <phila> s/PPROPOSED: approve last week's minutes/PROPOSED: approve last call's minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-04-24
13:10:22 <phila> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:10:32 <hadleybeeman> +0 (wasn't there)
Hadley Beeman: +0 (wasn't there) ←
13:10:32 <deirdrelee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
13:10:55 <cgueret> +1
Christophe Gueret: +1 ←
13:10:55 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:10:59 <phila> RESOLVED: approve last call's minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-04-24
RESOLVED: approve last call's minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-04-24 ←
13:11:01 <antoine> +0 wasn't here
Antoine Isaac: +0 wasn't here ←
13:11:20 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:11:20 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: what's happening with Zakim
Hadley Beeman: what's happening with Zakim ←
13:11:23 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
13:11:23 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
13:11:33 <laufer> sorry, waiting skype update...
Carlos Laufer: sorry, waiting skype update... ←
13:11:34 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:11:34 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
13:12:00 <annette_g> phila: we get Zakim through a deal with MIT from years and years ago. MIT now upgrading its conferencing system.
Phil Archer: we get Zakim through a deal with MIT from years and years ago. MIT now upgrading its conferencing system. ←
13:12:21 <annette_g> We'll still use the zakim bot, but we need to transition to webex.
We'll still use the zakim bot, but we need to transition to webex. ←
13:12:25 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:12:33 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller is me
Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:12:33 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it ←
13:12:35 <annette_g> next week, meeting instructions will tell how to use webex.
next week, meeting instructions will tell how to use webex. ←
13:12:57 <annette_g> type "present +" instead of telling zakim who you are, etc.
type "present +" instead of telling zakim who you are, etc. ←
13:12:58 <phila> http://www.w3.org/2015/05/zakim.mp3
Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2015/05/zakim.mp3 ←
13:13:21 <annette_g> phila: the recording is preseved for posterity
Phil Archer: the recording is preseved for posterity ←
13:13:33 <annette_g> …Ralph Swick
…Ralph Swick ←
13:13:55 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: no new accounts or anything, just wait for instructions
Hadley Beeman: no new accounts or anything, just wait for instructions ←
13:14:10 <phila> Topic: CSV on the Web WG Specs
13:14:18 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: CSV WG has asked us for a spec review
Hadley Beeman: CSV WG has asked us for a spec review ←
13:14:30 <annette_g> .. anything we agree with or see a problem with?
.. anything we agree with or see a problem with? ←
13:15:08 <annette_g> …look for emails in the next week about who is to do it
…look for emails in the next week about who is to do it ←
13:15:31 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: is also providing feedback on bahalf of the TAG
Hadley Beeman: is also providing feedback on bahalf of the TAG ←
13:15:39 <phila> q+ to ask if there's a deadline? I can't see one
Phil Archer: q+ to ask if there's a deadline? I can't see one ←
13:15:39 <annette_g> … can we get a volunteer?
… can we get a volunteer? ←
13:15:46 <yaso1> How many weeks do we have for that?
Yaso Córdova: How many weeks do we have for that? ←
13:15:48 <laufer> I can do this
Carlos Laufer: I can do this ←
13:15:49 <phila> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:16:08 <laufer> zakim, mute me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me ←
13:16:08 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted ←
13:16:09 <annette_g> no actual deadline yet
no actual deadline yet ←
13:16:10 <yaso1> ok, then I can help
Yaso Córdova: ok, then I can help ←
13:16:28 <annette_g> laufer, please bring initial thoughts back to the group next week
laufer, please bring initial thoughts back to the group next week ←
13:16:38 <yaso1> yea
Yaso Córdova: yea ←
13:16:39 <laufer> ok
Carlos Laufer: ok ←
13:17:08 <annette_g> ACTION: Yaso to review CSV spec
ACTION: Yaso to review CSV spec ←
13:17:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-181 - Review csv spec [on Yaso Córdova - due 2015-05-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-181 - Review csv spec [on Yaso Córdova - due 2015-05-15]. ←
13:17:21 <annette_g> ACTION: laufer to review CSV spec
ACTION: laufer to review CSV spec ←
13:17:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Review csv spec [on Carlos Laufer - due 2015-05-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-182 - Review csv spec [on Carlos Laufer - due 2015-05-15]. ←
13:17:49 <annette_g> …need to make sure the pieces fit together.
…need to make sure the pieces fit together. ←
13:18:12 <annette_g> phila: will find a version of the request from the CSV WG
Phil Archer: will find a version of the request from the CSV WG ←
13:18:35 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:18:35 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted ←
13:18:45 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:18:56 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: lets talk about issues
Hadley Beeman: lets talk about actions ←
13:19:11 <hadleybeeman> s/issues/actions
13:19:12 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: has questions about how to proceed with BP doc
Bernadette Farias Loscio: has questions about how to proceed with BP doc ←
13:19:13 <phila> Yaso and laufer, please see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015May/0031.html for details of the CSV specs
Phil Archer: Yaso and laufer, please see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015May/0031.html for details of the CSV specs ←
13:19:21 <phila> Topic: Best Practices
13:19:23 <yaso1> thanks, phila
Yaso Córdova: thanks, phila ←
13:20:19 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: actions first
Hadley Beeman: actions first ←
13:20:40 <annette_g> …action 85
13:20:48 <hadleybeeman> action-85?
13:20:48 <trackbot> action-85 -- Mark Harrison to Respond to antoine's comments and update intro on making uri sets accessible -- due 2014-09-26 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-85 -- Mark Harrison to Respond to antoine's comments and update intro on making uri sets accessible -- due 2014-09-26 -- OPEN ←
13:20:48 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/85
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/85 ←
13:20:56 <laufer> thank you, phil
Carlos Laufer: thank you, phil ←
13:21:31 <annette_g> antoine: thinks it can be closed
Antoine Isaac: thinks it can be closed ←
13:21:51 <phila> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015May/0025.html Mark's message
Phil Archer: -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015May/0025.html Mark's message ←
13:22:25 <hadleybeeman> Close action-85
Hadley Beeman: Close ACTION-85 ←
13:22:25 <trackbot> Closed action-85.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-85. ←
13:22:26 <annette_g> action-113?
13:22:26 <trackbot> action-113 -- Hadley Beeman to Check the scoping criteria against the deliverables/commitments in our charter -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-113 -- Hadley Beeman to Check the scoping criteria against the deliverables/commitments in our charter -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN ←
13:22:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/113
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/113 ←
13:22:53 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: thinks it's done
Hadley Beeman: thinks it's done ←
13:22:55 <phila> Suggest - 'overtaken by events'
Phil Archer: Suggest - 'overtaken by events' ←
13:23:27 <hadleybeeman> Close action-113
Hadley Beeman: Close ACTION-113 ←
13:23:27 <trackbot> Closed action-113.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-113. ←
13:23:35 <hadleybeeman> Action-115?
13:23:35 <trackbot> Action-115 -- Eric Stephan to Investigate how wcag can be an example for our bp document -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-115 -- Eric Stephan to Investigate how wcag can be an example for our bp document -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN ←
13:23:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/115
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/115 ←
13:23:39 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:23:52 <phila> ack BernadetteLoscio
Phil Archer: ack BernadetteLoscio ←
13:23:55 <phila> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:24:47 <annette_g> phila: these actions are from November last year, all look very old. our work has evolved enough that this isn't a good use of eric's time. proposes we close action 115
Phil Archer: these actions are from November last year, all look very old. our work has evolved enough that this isn't a good use of eric's time. proposes we close ACTION-115 ←
13:24:52 <SumitPurohit> +1
Sumit Purohit: +1 ←
13:24:59 <hadleybeeman> Close action-115
Hadley Beeman: Close ACTION-115 ←
13:24:59 <trackbot> Closed action-115.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-115. ←
13:25:08 <hadleybeeman> Action-121
13:25:08 <trackbot> Action-121 -- Ig Ibert Bittencourt Santana Pinto to Look at linked data bp at http://www.w3.org/tr/ld-bp/#vocabularies and to talk with mark h and antoine to see if the controlled vocab section fits with the data vocabs -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-121 -- Ig Ibert Bittencourt Santana Pinto to Look at linked data bp at http://www.w3.org/tr/ld-bp/#vocabularies and to talk with mark h and antoine to see if the controlled vocab section fits with the data vocabs -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN ←
13:25:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/121
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/121 ←
13:25:18 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:25:43 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: seems like we can close that too
Bernadette Farias Loscio: seems like we can close that too ←
13:25:44 <hadleybeeman> Ack a
Hadley Beeman: Ack a ←
13:26:02 <hadleybeeman> Close action-122
Hadley Beeman: Close ACTION-122 ←
13:26:02 <trackbot> Closed action-122.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-122. ←
13:26:20 <hadleybeeman> Close action 121
Hadley Beeman: Close ACTION-121 ←
13:26:42 <annette_g> (action 122 can also be closed)
(ACTION-122 can also be closed) ←
13:26:49 <hadleybeeman> Action-131?
13:26:49 <trackbot> Action-131 -- Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez to Will write about resource version -- due 2014-12-05 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-131 -- Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez to Will write about resource version -- due 2014-12-05 -- OPEN ←
13:26:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/131
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/131 ←
13:26:59 <phila> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:27:32 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: not sure what the reason for 131 was, can probably be closed
Bernadette Farias Loscio: not sure what the reason for 131 was, can probably be closed ←
13:27:37 <hadleybeeman> Ack ph
Hadley Beeman: Ack ph ←
13:27:45 <phila> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Apr/0288.html on versioning
Phil Archer: -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Apr/0288.html on versioning ←
13:27:54 <annette_g> phila: agrees it can be closed because things have moved on.
Phil Archer: agrees it can be closed because things have moved on. ←
13:28:15 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:28:28 <phila> -> http://index.okfn.org/place/ Global Index
Phil Archer: -> http://index.okfn.org/place/ Global Index ←
13:28:29 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:28:30 <annette_g> phila: versioninng is something we are going to have to address in one way or another. He has a use case, the global index that open knowledge does every year
Phil Archer: versioninng is something we are going to have to address in one way or another. He has a use case, the global index that open knowledge does every year ←
13:29:20 <annette_g> phila: I want to refer to the 2014, current, dataset so that in a year's time my link will work because Open Knowledge doesn't make that possible.
Phil Archer: I want to refer to the 2014, current, dataset so that in a year's time my link will work because Open Knowledge doesn't make that possible. ←
13:29:22 <annette_g> q+
q+ ←
13:30:06 <annette_g> phila: a lot of DCAT users are getting together, and they'll talk about the fact that DCAT doesn't do versioning
Phil Archer: a lot of DCAT users are getting together, and they'll talk about the fact that DCAT doesn't do versioning ←
13:30:15 <annette_g> we already have a BP for that
we already have a BP for that ←
13:30:33 <annette_g> phila: we need a BP for this
Phil Archer: we need a BP for this ←
13:30:54 <hadleybeeman> Ack b
Hadley Beeman: Ack b ←
13:30:55 <PeterWinstanley> versioning in the cases of these 'accreted' datasets also requires some dataset-to-dataset relations (another omission from DCAT-AP)
Peter Winstanley: versioning in the cases of these 'accreted' datasets also requires some dataset-to-dataset relations (another omission from DCAT-AP) ←
13:31:28 <cgueret> q+ to suggest a BP
Christophe Gueret: q+ to suggest a BP ←
13:31:33 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: when you say we need a new BP, what is the definition of a dataset
Bernadette Farias Loscio: when you say we need a new BP, what is the definition of a dataset ←
13:32:07 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: we don't have information about verisoning in DCAT, not sure if we can expand it.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we don't have information about verisoning in DCAT, not sure if we can expand it. ←
13:32:43 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: not sure how to deal with this if we use DCAT def of a dataset
Bernadette Farias Loscio: not sure how to deal with this if we use DCAT def of a dataset ←
13:32:58 <hadleybeeman> Ack deirdrelee
Hadley Beeman: Ack deirdrelee ←
13:33:07 <Zakim> +??P30
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30 ←
13:33:22 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P30 is really me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P30 is really me ←
13:33:22 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it ←
13:34:37 <annette_g> deirdrelee: DCAT group is discussing other things as well. The challenge is if there are datasets that aren't grouped together. DCAT def is a representation of a dataset in a particular format. How it gets used in practice is in grouping datasets that are distributed together. One can have a different distribution for each version of the dataset.
Deirdre Lee: DCAT group is discussing other things as well. The challenge is if there are datasets that aren't grouped together. DCAT def is a representation of a dataset in a particular format. How it gets used in practice is in grouping datasets that are distributed together. One can have a different distribution for each version of the dataset. ←
13:35:08 <laufer> It is more the dataset definition of CKAN...
Carlos Laufer: It is more the dataset definition of CKAN... ←
13:35:32 <hadleybeeman> Q?
Hadley Beeman: Q? ←
13:35:38 <annette_g> deirdrelee: problem is between the data model and an implementation of a data portal commonly used in practice
Deirdre Lee: problem is between the data model and an implementation of a data portal commonly used in practice ←
13:36:07 <annette_g> deirdrelee: can be various types of dataset, time series, etc.
Deirdre Lee: can be various types of dataset, time series, etc. ←
13:36:15 <hadleybeeman> Ack annette_g
Hadley Beeman: Ack annette_g ←
13:37:10 <hadleybeeman> Ack cgueret
Hadley Beeman: Ack cgueret ←
13:37:10 <Zakim> cgueret, you wanted to suggest a BP
Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret, you wanted to suggest a BP ←
13:37:16 <annette_g> annette_g: we do have a BP that addresses Phil's concern
Annette Greiner: we do have a BP that addresses Phil's concern ←
13:38:20 <annette_g> cgueret: every version should be timestamped and then there is a latest version
Christophe Gueret: every version should be timestamped and then there is a latest version ←
13:38:30 <annette_g> *did I get that right?*
*did I get that right?* ←
13:38:54 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: shall we close action 131?
Hadley Beeman: shall we close ACTION-131? ←
13:38:55 <hadleybeeman> Close action-131
Hadley Beeman: Close ACTION-131 ←
13:38:55 <trackbot> Closed action-131.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-131. ←
13:39:31 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:39:55 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:40:06 <annette_g> q+
q+ ←
13:40:53 <annette_g> phila: we should avoid getting too caught up with DCAT changes
Phil Archer: we should avoid getting too caught up with DCAT changes ←
13:40:58 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
13:41:05 <phila> q- BernadetteLoscio
Phil Archer: q- BernadetteLoscio ←
13:41:10 <hadleybeeman> Ack deirdrelee
Hadley Beeman: Ack deirdrelee ←
13:41:13 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: please make next comments related to actions
Hadley Beeman: please make next comments related to actions ←
13:41:24 <BernadetteLoscio> im sorry... i got disconnected
Bernadette Farias Loscio: im sorry... i got disconnected ←
13:41:41 <annette_g> deirdrelee: on Monday, there's a con call for DCAT AP, she can ask them for ideas, make sure they're aware of us.
Deirdre Lee: on Monday, there's a con call for DCAT AP, she can ask them for ideas, make sure they're aware of us. ←
13:41:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:42:06 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
13:42:06 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
13:42:33 <annette_g> deirdrelee: separate point about Irish data portal, exporting DCAT AP to that(?)
Deirdre Lee: separate point about Irish data portal, exporting DCAT AP to that(?) ←
13:42:55 <hadleybeeman> Q?
Hadley Beeman: Q? ←
13:43:05 <annette_g> phila: the week after, Max and Phil will be in another meeting that touches this
Phil Archer: the week after, Max and Phil will be in another meeting that touches this ←
13:43:25 <hadleybeeman> Ack annette_g
Hadley Beeman: Ack annette_g ←
13:44:04 <phila> action: Phil to check URI version BP - is it still there?#
ACTION: Phil to check URI version BP - is it still there?# ←
13:44:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-183 - Check uri version bp - is it still there?# [on Phil Archer - due 2015-05-15].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-183 - Check uri version bp - is it still there?# [on Phil Archer - due 2015-05-15]. ←
13:44:28 <annette_g> annette_g: can't find Phil's item in versioning in current version of the doc
Annette Greiner: can't find Phil's item in versioning in current version of the doc ←
13:44:35 <annette_g> phila: volunteers to fix that
Phil Archer: volunteers to fix that ←
13:44:50 <annette_g> action-144?
13:44:50 <trackbot> action-144 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Work with newton and carol to include multilingualism in the best practice document as per resolution of issue-142 -- due 2015-03-20 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-144 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Work with newton and carol to include multilingualism in the best practice document as per resolution of ISSUE-142 -- due 2015-03-20 -- OPEN ←
13:44:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/144
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/144 ←
13:45:16 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: not sure how to deal with this in the BP doc
Bernadette Farias Loscio: not sure how to deal with this in the BP doc ←
13:45:32 <annette_g> …it's going on
…it's going on ←
13:45:34 <phila> phila: Notes that this related to iccue-142
Phil Archer: Notes that this related to ISSUE-142 [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:45:53 <phila> s/iccue-142/Issue-142
13:45:58 <phila> issue-142?
13:45:58 <trackbot> issue-142 -- About multilingualism -- closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-142 -- About multilingualism -- closed ←
13:45:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/142
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/142 ←
13:46:16 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: leave the action open
Bernadette Farias Loscio: leave the action open ←
13:46:36 <annette_g> … she'll close it when it's ready for feedback from the gorup
… she'll close it when it's ready for feedback from the group ←
13:46:43 <annette_g> s/gorup/group
13:46:49 <annette_g> action-147?
13:46:49 <trackbot> action-147 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to to add a bp for structural metadata -- due 2015-04-20 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-147 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to to add a bp for structural metadata -- due 2015-04-20 -- OPEN ←
13:46:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/147
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/147 ←
13:46:59 <phila> No!!!!!!!!!!
Phil Archer: No!!!!!!!!!! ←
13:47:13 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: do we still need it?
Hadley Beeman: do we still need it? ←
13:47:15 <laufer> Yes!!!
Carlos Laufer: Yes!!! ←
13:47:38 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: same as the multilingual piece, not sure how to proceed
Bernadette Farias Loscio: same as the multilingual piece, not sure how to proceed ←
13:47:59 <cgueret> Maybe!!!!!!!!!
Christophe Gueret: Maybe!!!!!!!!! ←
13:48:04 <cgueret> ;-)
Christophe Gueret: ;-) ←
13:48:33 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: was not talking about leaving out structural metadata, just the action
Hadley Beeman: was not talking about leaving out structural metadata, just the action ←
13:48:33 <phila> I was just screaming about starting another discussion about metadata - that's all
Phil Archer: I was just screaming about starting another discussion about metadata - that's all ←
13:48:46 <annette_g> action-150?
13:48:46 <trackbot> action-150 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Write to andrea perego informing of the new text -- due 2015-04-20 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-150 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Write to andrea perego informing of the new text -- due 2015-04-20 -- OPEN ←
13:48:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/150
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/150 ←
13:49:17 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: still needs to be addressed
Bernadette Farias Loscio: still needs to be addressed ←
13:49:26 <annette_g> action-155?
13:49:26 <trackbot> action-155 -- Phil Archer to Write to danbri in response to comment 3006 -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-155 -- Phil Archer to Write to danbri in response to comment 3006 -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:49:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/155
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/155 ←
13:49:40 <annette_g> phila: leave it open and nag him
Phil Archer: leave it open and nag him ←
13:49:46 <annette_g> action-157?
13:49:46 <trackbot> action-157 -- Phil Archer to Work with hadleybeeman to revise the bp on http://www.w3.org/tr/dwbp/#provideuniqueidentifiers and make new suggestions -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-157 -- Phil Archer to Work with hadleybeeman to revise the bp on http://www.w3.org/tr/dwbp/#provideuniqueidentifiers and make new suggestions -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:49:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/157
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/157 ←
13:50:24 <annette_g> phila: still needed
Phil Archer: still needed ←
13:50:29 <annette_g> action-160?
13:50:29 <trackbot> action-160 -- Christophe Gueret to Write a bp on preservation in bp doc -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-160 -- Christophe Gueret to Write a bp on preservation in bp doc -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:50:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/160
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/160 ←
13:51:05 <annette_g> cgueret: we have a glossary now, 3 BPs related to preservation
Christophe Gueret: we have a glossary now, 3 BPs related to preservation ←
13:51:13 <annette_g> … okay to close
… okay to close ←
13:51:21 <annette_g> … also 159
… also 159 ←
13:51:30 <annette_g> action-162?
13:51:30 <trackbot> action-162 -- Phil Archer to Write bp on topic of what happens to identifiers after data resource is no longer online (e.g. through archiving). wg will then decide if this should be included in bp doc, and if it is, should it be separate bp or merged with another bp -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-162 -- Phil Archer to Write bp on topic of what happens to identifiers after data resource is no longer online (e.g. through archiving). wg will then decide if this should be included in bp doc, and if it is, should it be separate bp or merged with another bp -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:51:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/162
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/162 ←
13:52:03 <cgueret> yep
Christophe Gueret: yep ←
13:52:11 <annette_g> phila: does cgueret's stuff cover this?
Phil Archer: does cgueret's stuff cover this? ←
13:52:40 <annette_g> cgueret: yes, not sure which number … breaking up
Christophe Gueret: yes, not sure which number … breaking up ←
13:52:54 <phila> -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#resourcestatus It's done
Phil Archer: -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#resourcestatus It's done ←
13:52:58 <annette_g> phila: BP28
Phil Archer: BP28 ←
13:53:00 <phila> close action 162
Phil Archer: close ACTION-162 ←
13:53:06 <phila> close action-162
Phil Archer: close ACTION-162 ←
13:53:06 <trackbot> Closed action-162.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-162. ←
13:53:23 <annette_g> action-164?
13:53:23 <trackbot> action-164 -- Hadley Beeman to Work with phil to propose text to replace http://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#preserveprivacy -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-164 -- Hadley Beeman to Work with phil to propose text to replace http://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#preserveprivacy -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:53:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/164
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/164 ←
13:53:27 <annette_g> same as 166
same as 166 ←
13:54:22 <annette_g> what are the diffs between 2 actions?
what are the diffs between 2 actions? ←
13:54:43 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: each pair should come up with their own, then we'll discuss
Hadley Beeman: each pair should come up with their own, then we'll discuss ←
13:54:56 <annette_g> annette_g: still open
Annette Greiner: still open ←
13:55:11 <annette_g> action-169?
13:55:11 <trackbot> action-169 -- Newton Calegari to Create a "possible approach to implementation" showing memento examples -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-169 -- Newton Calegari to Create a "possible approach to implementation" showing memento examples -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:55:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/169
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/169 ←
13:55:22 <annette_g> action-171?
13:55:22 <trackbot> action-171 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to to add all public comments to comment tracker -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-171 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to to add all public comments to comment tracker -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:55:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/171
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/171 ←
13:55:39 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: will check with Newton whether he did that
Bernadette Farias Loscio: will check with Newton whether he did that ←
13:55:49 <phila> I think Newton's action on memento is done http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#provideVersioningInfo
Phil Archer: I think Newton's action on memento is done http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#provideVersioningInfo ←
13:56:04 <yaso1> I think that Giselle answered an email about this this week...
Yaso Córdova: I think that Giselle answered an email about this this week... ←
13:56:13 <annette_g> action-173?
13:56:13 <trackbot> action-173 -- Gisele Pappa to Create bp for data enrichment -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-173 -- Gisele Pappa to Create bp for data enrichment -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN ←
13:56:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/173
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/173 ←
13:56:19 <yaso1> let me look for it
Yaso Córdova: let me look for it ←
13:56:41 <annette_g> woo hoo!
woo hoo! ←
13:56:45 <phila> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:56:53 <cgueret> +1 to phil, see implememntation in BP8
Christophe Gueret: +1 to phil, see implememntation in BP8 ←
13:57:12 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: did some work on the beginning of the BP doc
Bernadette Farias Loscio: did some work on the beginning of the BP doc ←
13:57:19 <annette_g> take a look
take a look ←
13:57:23 <yaso1> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015May/0014.html
Yaso Córdova: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015May/0014.html ←
13:57:32 <yaso1> She just said that she is working on that
Yaso Córdova: She just said that she is working on that ←
13:57:54 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: not sure how to create a machine readable version, different ideas from different sources
Bernadette Farias Loscio: not sure how to create a machine readable version, different ideas from different sources ←
13:58:18 <annette_g> … is it possible to wrap just one description, or separate pieces of code
… it is possible to wrap just one description, or separate pieces of code ←
13:58:24 <hadleybeeman> Q+
Hadley Beeman: Q+ ←
13:58:46 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: we have a notion of agency, how does that work with other terms?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have a notion of agency, how does that work with other terms? ←
13:59:11 <annette_g> … there's not a model that says "okay, this is a dataset", not sure we can use DCAT vocabulary
… there's not a model that says "okay, this is a dataset", not sure we can use DCAT vocabulary ←
13:59:22 <annette_g> q+
q+ ←
13:59:49 <phila> ack h
Phil Archer: ack h ←
13:59:54 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: would help to see one approach fleshed out
Hadley Beeman: would help to see one approach fleshed out ←
14:00:21 <annette_g> BernadetteLoscio: will do that in the BP doc
Bernadette Farias Loscio: will do that in the BP doc ←
14:00:24 <phila> I'd be very reluctant to dismiss the DCAT data model...
Phil Archer: I'd be very reluctant to dismiss the DCAT data model... ←
14:00:30 <cgueret> me too
Christophe Gueret: me too ←
14:00:33 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
14:00:41 <BernadetteLoscio> we're gonna use dcat :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we're gonna use dcat :) ←
14:00:50 <hadleybeeman> Ack annette_g
Hadley Beeman: Ack annette_g ←
14:00:53 <phila> ack annette_g
Phil Archer: ack annette_g ←
14:01:07 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz
Zakim IRC Bot: -Eric_Kauz ←
14:01:10 <BernadetteLoscio> i was talking about an abstract model that the vocabulary
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i was talking about an abstract model that the vocabulary ←
14:01:15 <phila> annette_g: Is it possible to have machine readable and human readable data in the same file?
Annette Greiner: Is it possible to have machine readable and human readable data in the same file? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:01:32 <phila> phila: Mentions HTML5 + RDFa (or Microdata, or microformats)
Phil Archer: Mentions HTML5 + RDFa (or Microdata, or microformats) [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:01:35 <annette_g> s/is it/ it is
14:01:51 <BernadetteLoscio> thank you!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thank you! ←
14:02:09 <annette_g> annette_g: HDF5 files are self-documenting
Annette Greiner: HDF5 files are self-documenting ←
14:02:22 <laufer> bye all, nce wknd!!!
Carlos Laufer: bye all, nce wknd!!! ←
14:02:24 <PeterWinstanley> bye!
Peter Winstanley: bye! ←
14:02:25 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
14:02:26 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee ←
14:02:26 <Zakim> -phila
Zakim IRC Bot: -phila ←
14:02:28 <Zakim> -SumitPurohit
Zakim IRC Bot: -SumitPurohit ←
14:02:28 <Zakim> -annette_g
Zakim IRC Bot: -annette_g ←
14:02:30 <annette_g> bye all!
bye all! ←
14:02:30 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
14:02:31 <Zakim> -PeterWinstanley
Zakim IRC Bot: -PeterWinstanley ←
14:02:33 <Zakim> -laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer ←
14:02:36 <CarlosIglesias> bye!
Carlos Iglesias: bye! ←
14:02:40 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
14:02:42 <Zakim> -yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -yaso ←
14:03:00 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias ←
14:03:01 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended ←
14:03:01 <Zakim> Attendees were annette_g, SumitPurohit, deirdrelee, +1.609.557.aaaa, phila, HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, PeterWinstanley, antoine, cgueret, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, laufer,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were annette_g, SumitPurohit, deirdrelee, +1.609.557.aaaa, phila, HadleyBeeman, Eric_Kauz, PeterWinstanley, antoine, cgueret, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, laufer, ←
14:03:01 <Zakim> ... CarlosIglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: ... CarlosIglesias ←
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