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DWBP Weekly Telecon 2014-11-07

Minutes of 07 November 2014

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141107
Seen
Adriano Pereira, Annette Greiner, Antoine Isaac, Carlos Iglesias, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Flavio Yanai, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Joao Almeida, Lewis Mcgibbney, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Yaso Córdova
Regrets
Carlos Laufer, Flavio Yanai
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Caroline Burle, Yaso Córdova
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. minutes approved link
  2. approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-24 link
  3. approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html link
  4. approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dwbp-minutes.html link
Topics
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13:58:19 <phila> Meeting: DWBP Weekly Telecon 2014-11-07
13:58:23 <phila> Chair: Hadley
13:58:33 <phila> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141107
13:58:42 <phila> regrets: Laufer, Flavio
13:58:51 <phila> zakim, this will be dwbp

Phil Archer: zakim, this will be dwbp

13:58:51 <Zakim> ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

13:58:52 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started

13:59:00 <Zakim> +Caroline_

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13:59:22 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline_ has yaso

Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline_ has yaso

13:59:22 <Zakim> +yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it

13:59:32 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:59:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

13:59:42 <phila> zakim, ipcaller.a is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller.a is me

13:59:43 <Zakim> +phila; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it

13:59:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Joao Almeida: Zakim, IPcaller is me

13:59:46 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it

13:59:56 <phila> Hi everyone

Phil Archer: Hi everyone

14:00:07 <Caroline_> Hello!

Caroline Burle: Hello!

14:00:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Hi

Joao Almeida: Hi

14:00:11 <laufer> Hi Phil

Carlos Laufer: Hi Phil

14:00:28 <phila> regrets- laufer

Phil Archer: regrets- laufer

14:00:33 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz

Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz

14:00:34 <laufer> Sorry, but I will have to leave in the middle of the session

Carlos Laufer: Sorry, but I will have to leave in the middle of the session

14:00:42 <Zakim> +lewismc

Zakim IRC Bot: +lewismc

14:01:03 <Zakim> + +1.510.384.aaaa

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14:01:03 <laufer> I have forgotten all this adjustments of time zones...

Carlos Laufer: I have forgotten all this adjustments of time zones...

14:01:08 <Zakim> +??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24

14:01:13 <lewismc> lewismc --> Lewis John McGibbney

Lewis Mcgibbney: lewismc --> Lewis John McGibbney

14:01:14 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: +RiccardoAlbertoni

14:01:24 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

14:01:24 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P24 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P24 is me

14:01:26 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it

14:01:34 <RiccardoAlbertoni> hello !

Riccardo Albertoni: hello !

14:02:06 <AdrianoC> Hi, I am on chat only today.

Adriano Pereira: Hi, I am on chat only today.

14:03:20 <phila> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

14:03:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, phila, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, +1.510.384.aaaa, MTCarrasco, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline_, JoaoPauloAlmeida, phila, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, +1.510.384.aaaa, MTCarrasco, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman

14:03:22 <Zakim> Caroline_ has yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has yaso

14:03:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, laufer, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Caroline_, RRSAgent, Zakim, AdrianoC, yaso, phila, sandro, rhiaro_,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, laufer, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Caroline_, RRSAgent, Zakim, AdrianoC, yaso, phila, sandro, rhiaro_,

14:03:22 <Zakim> ... hadleybeeman, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... hadleybeeman, trackbot

14:03:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:04:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

14:04:28 <annette_g> I'm the +1.510.384.aaaa

Annette Greiner: I'm the +1.510.384.aaaa

14:04:30 <laufer> Zakim, IPcaller.a is me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, IPcaller.a is me

14:04:30 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

14:04:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> breathing in the mic

Joao Almeida: breathing in the mic

14:04:50 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is Antoine

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is Antoine

14:04:50 <Zakim> +Antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Antoine; got it

14:05:00 <phila> zakim, who is noisy?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is noisy?

14:05:08 <annette_g> Zakim, +1.510.384.aaaa is me

Annette Greiner: Zakim, +1.510.384.aaaa is me

14:05:08 <Zakim> +annette_g; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +annette_g; got it

14:05:11 <Zakim> phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline_ (4%), MTCarrasco (4%), HadleyBeeman (23%), laufer (58%)

Zakim IRC Bot: phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline_ (4%), MTCarrasco (4%), HadleyBeeman (23%), laufer (58%)

14:05:12 <Caroline_> Zakim, Caroline_ has newton

Caroline Burle: Zakim, Caroline_ has newton

14:05:13 <laufer> Zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: Zakim, mute me

14:05:13 <Zakim> +newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it

14:05:13 <Zakim> +ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan

14:05:13 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

14:05:32 <ericstephan> Hi Annette! Wow great

Eric Stephan: Hi Annette! Wow great

14:06:04 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> the TPAC minutes are terribly littered with names that do not match...

Joao Almeida: the TPAC minutes are terribly littered with names that do not match...

14:06:16 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> can these warnings be removed?

Joao Almeida: can these warnings be removed?

14:06:41 <phila> JoaoPauloAlmeida, you can also see http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html and http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dwbp-minutes.html

Phil Archer: JoaoPauloAlmeida, you can also see http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html and http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dwbp-minutes.html

14:06:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> thanks Hadley and Phil

Joao Almeida: thanks Hadley and Phil

14:07:09 <Caroline_> I may scribe

Caroline Burle: I may scribe

14:07:21 <Caroline_> scribe: Caroline_

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

14:07:44 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-24

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-24

14:08:02 <Caroline_> PROPOSED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-24

PROPOSED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-24

14:08:05 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:08:07 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:08:07 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

14:08:07 <Caroline_> +1

+1

14:08:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1

Joao Almeida: +1

14:08:09 <lewismc> +1

Lewis Mcgibbney: +1

14:08:12 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

14:08:12 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:08:21 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:08:28 <phila> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:08:45 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:09:13 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:09:14 <Caroline_> RESOLVED: minutes approved

RESOLVED: minutes approved

14:09:16 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-30

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-30

14:09:33 <Caroline_> RESOLVED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-24

RESOLVED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-10-24

14:10:05 <phila> http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

14:10:15 <Caroline_> phila: you may see the minutes of TPAC http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

Phil Archer: you may see the minutes of TPAC http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

14:10:40 <Caroline_> ... although the content is the same of the one we approved

... although the content is the same of the one we approved

14:11:08 <Caroline_> PROPOSED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

PROPOSED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

14:11:15 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:11:16 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:11:16 <Caroline_> +1

+1

14:11:17 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:11:21 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:11:22 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:12:03 <Caroline_> RESOLVED:  approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

RESOLVED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/30-dwbp-minutes.html

14:12:04 <phila> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:12:20 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

14:12:27 <Caroline_> PROPOSED:  approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dwbp-minutes.html

PROPOSED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dwbp-minutes.html

14:12:34 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:12:35 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:12:35 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:12:38 <phila> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:12:39 <Caroline_> +1

+1

14:12:41 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

14:12:42 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:12:45 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:12:59 <Caroline_> RESOLVED:  approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dwbp-minutes.html

RESOLVED: approve the minutes http://www.w3.org/2014/10/31-dwbp-minutes.html

14:13:06 <ericstephan> There will be quite a few "eric"s to parse @phila

Eric Stephan: There will be quite a few "eric"s to parse @phila

14:13:30 <hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

14:13:39 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: let's start with https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

Hadley Beeman: let's start with https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

14:14:08 <phila> Open Issues http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open

Phil Archer: Open Issues http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open

14:14:09 <hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open?sort=product

14:14:54 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: we all should have an opinion on the issues and decide about them

Hadley Beeman: we all should have an opinion on the issues and decide about them

14:15:03 <hadleybeeman> issue-52?

Hadley Beeman: ISSUE-52?

14:15:03 <trackbot> issue-52 -- We keep having confusion around our terms. (glossary?) -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-52 -- We keep having confusion around our terms. (glossary?) -- open

14:15:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/52

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/52

14:15:05 <phila> issue-52?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-52?

14:15:05 <trackbot> issue-52 -- We keep having confusion around our terms. (glossary?) -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-52 -- We keep having confusion around our terms. (glossary?) -- open

14:15:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/52

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/52

14:15:18 <Caroline_> ... let's start with issue 52 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

... let's start with ISSUE-52 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised

14:15:29 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:15:57 <Caroline_> ... we should start a wiki page for each of the issues and that could be discussions pages acumulating notes

... we should start a wiki page for each of the terms and that could be discussions pages acumulating notes

14:16:07 <Caroline_> ... we can define later if we will use them

... we can define later if we will use them

14:16:10 <phila> s/issues/terms/
14:16:16 <Caroline_> ... it would be useful to keep track of the discussions

... it would be useful to keep track of the discussions

14:16:30 <Caroline_> ... I propose that we start a wiki page for each of the words we need to define

... I propose that we start a wiki page for each of the words we need to define

14:17:06 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: there is a section to put the definitions in the context of the text

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: there is a section to put the definitions in the context of the text

14:17:22 <Caroline_> ... the dangeur is that we might have a huge terminology specification

... the dangeur is that we might have a huge terminology specification

14:17:35 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: I agree, but the definitions must be there for us

Hadley Beeman: I agree, but the definitions must be there for us

14:17:54 <Caroline_> ... we have some terms that we must define, and others that we are not sure about the definition

... we have some terms that we must define, and others that we are not sure about the definition

14:18:04 <phila> An example of an in-document definition can be seen in the intro to the primary XML spec http://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#sec-intro

Phil Archer: An example of an in-document definition can be seen in the intro to the primary XML spec http://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#sec-intro

14:18:07 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:18:12 <hadleybeeman> ack mt

Hadley Beeman: ack mt

14:18:13 <Caroline_> ... we should see that first and then define if we should put them or not

... we should see that first and then define if we should put them or not

14:18:37 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: I have mix feelings about. If the term should be put as definition in a terminology session

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I have mix feelings about. If the term should be put as definition in a terminology session

14:18:57 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: a wiki page is temporary

Hadley Beeman: a wiki page is temporary

14:19:05 <Caroline_> ... it needs to get somewhere more permanent

... it needs to get somewhere more permanent

14:19:14 <Caroline_> ... each of the deliverables are in different stages

... each of the deliverables are in different stages

14:19:18 <phila> +1 to both Tomas and Hadley. Wiki is temporary place holder, but final place could well sensibly be in the doc

Phil Archer: +1 to both Tomas and Hadley. Wiki is temporary place holder, but final place could well sensibly be in the doc

14:19:26 <Caroline_> ... what do the rest of you think?

... what do the rest of you think?

14:19:48 <ericstephan> +1 Wiki page, if we are targetting it into a specific document we should specify this in the wiki page.

Eric Stephan: +1 Wiki page, if we are targetting it into a specific document we should specify this in the wiki page.

14:19:49 <Caroline_> phila: I am not sure if we will end up having the definitions in multiple places

Phil Archer: I am not sure if we will end up having the definitions in multiple places

14:19:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:20:06 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:20:07 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, [IPcaller] is me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, [IPcaller] is me

14:20:08 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it

14:20:16 <Caroline_> ... it is just easier to read if the definition is on the text

... it is just easier to read if the definition is on the text

14:20:24 <Caroline_> ... the wiki page might be useful

... the wiki page might be useful

14:20:29 <Caroline_> +1 to begin with the wiki page

+1 to begin with the wiki page

14:21:02 <Caroline_> phila: we should talk to each other and align the terms

Phil Archer: we should talk to each other and align the terms

14:21:37 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: looking at the issues list we need to define the structure

Hadley Beeman: looking at the issues list we need to define the structure

14:21:49 <laufer> and datasets

Carlos Laufer: and datasets

14:21:54 <Caroline_> ... reference vocabularies

... reference vocabularies

14:21:59 <Caroline_> ... and datasets

... and datasets

14:22:06 <Caroline_> ... do we need to create a issue for that?

... do we need to create a issue for that?

14:22:10 <MTCarrasco> 1) Write specifications  as oppose to wiki  -   2) Define knew concepts in the proper section like XML  -  3) When not in sections, into a terms section

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: 1) Write specifications as oppose to wiki - 2) Define knew concepts in the proper section like XML - 3) When not in sections, into a terms section

14:22:13 <annette_g> didn't we say DCAT?

Annette Greiner: didn't we say DCAT?

14:22:16 <phila> Structured, Reference Vocabulary, Real Time, datasets etc. all need definitions (or pointers to existing defns)

Phil Archer: Structured, Reference Vocabulary, Real Time, datasets etc. all need definitions (or pointers to existing defns)

14:22:19 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

14:22:19 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

14:22:32 <phila> And yes, annette_g we said DCAT (or I get very grumpy!)

Phil Archer: And yes, annette_g we said DCAT (or I get very grumpy!)

14:22:42 <antoine> aren't other issues / terms related to this problem already? E.g. https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/55

Antoine Isaac: aren't other issues / terms related to this problem already? E.g. https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/55

14:22:43 <Caroline_> laufer: I don't know if we must creat a issue for each term

Carlos Laufer: I don't know if we must creat a issue for each term

14:22:52 <Caroline_> ... I don't know if we will have a note

... I don't know if we will have a note

14:23:40 <Caroline_> ... we could put a note on the github

... we could put a note on the github

14:23:43 <MTCarrasco> Look at the XML style - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Look at the XML style - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126

14:23:47 <phila> Yes, antoine, there are lots of terms that need defining/clarifying

Phil Archer: Yes, antoine, there are lots of terms that need defining/clarifying

14:23:52 <ericstephan> Wiki pages do have a datetime stamp that can be referenced as well just in case there are at worst case one or more pages defining a term.

Eric Stephan: Wiki pages do have a datetime stamp that can be referenced as well just in case there are at worst case one or more pages defining a term.

14:24:17 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:24:36 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: I am creating issues for things we need to discuss later

Hadley Beeman: I am creating issues for things we need to discuss later

14:24:53 <Caroline_> ... if we don't have an answer is a issue, if we do have a answer it should be a action

... if we don't have an answer is a issue, if we do have a answer it should be a action

14:25:00 <Caroline_> laufer: dataset should be discussed

Carlos Laufer: dataset should be discussed

14:25:07 <hadleybeeman> issue: we need a definition of "dataset"

ISSUE: we need a definition of "dataset"

14:25:07 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-80 - We need a definition of "dataset".  Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/80/edit>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-80 - We need a definition of "dataset". Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/80/edit>.

14:25:13 <hadleybeeman> rrsagent, pointer?

Hadley Beeman: rrsagent, pointer?

14:25:13 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2014/11/07-dwbp-irc#T14-25-13

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2014/11/07-dwbp-irc#T14-25-13

14:25:32 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco:on this http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126 inside the texts there are definitions

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: on this http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126 inside the texts there are definitions

14:25:39 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> We also had a glossary in GLD https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html

Joao Almeida: We also had a glossary in GLD https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html

14:25:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> as a note

Joao Almeida: as a note

14:25:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Including the term Dataset https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html#dataset-rdf

Joao Almeida: Including the term Dataset https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html#dataset-rdf

14:25:54 <Caroline_> ... this is a good style as a example on how to write a specification

... this is a good style as a example on how to write a specification

14:26:08 <MakxDekkers> see dcat for definition of dataset http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/#class-dataset

Makx Dekkers: see dcat for definition of dataset http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/#class-dataset

14:26:11 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

14:26:21 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline_ (11%), MTCarrasco (10%), HadleyBeeman (9%), laufer (36%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline_ (11%), MTCarrasco (10%), HadleyBeeman (9%), laufer (36%)

14:26:32 <MTCarrasco> http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-terminology -  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-well-formed

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-terminology - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-well-formed

14:26:44 <antoine> MakxDekkers++

Antoine Isaac: MakxDekkers++

14:27:18 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco:  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-terminology -  http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-well-forme along this document is possible to see the definitions

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-terminology - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xml-20081126/#sec-well-forme along this document is possible to see the definitions

14:27:40 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:27:48 <MakxDekkers> zakim, iocaller is me

Makx Dekkers: zakim, iocaller is me

14:27:48 <Zakim> sorry, MakxDekkers, I do not recognize a party named 'iocaller'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, MakxDekkers, I do not recognize a party named 'iocaller'

14:27:53 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: what do we need to decide? How we are going to approach each term? Which terms we need to include? Or make it a open issue?

Hadley Beeman: what do we need to decide? How we are going to approach each term? Which terms we need to include? Or make it a open issue?

14:27:57 <MakxDekkers> zakim, ipcaller is me

Makx Dekkers: zakim, ipcaller is me

14:27:57 <Zakim> +MakxDekkers; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MakxDekkers; got it

14:28:12 <Caroline_> MTCarrasco: the editors are responsible to define the concepts

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the editors are responsible to define the concepts

14:28:29 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:28:34 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: we do need to have the WG to agree with them

Hadley Beeman: we do need to have the WG to agree with them

14:28:38 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1 to MTCarrasco and I think we should try and reuse or align with GLD glossary as well

Joao Almeida: +1 to MTCarrasco and I think we should try and reuse or align with GLD glossary as well

14:28:44 <MTCarrasco> q-

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q-

14:28:45 <hadleybeeman> ack mtc

Hadley Beeman: ack mtc

14:29:05 <Caroline_> annette_g: I propose that we take the definition from DCAT

Annette Greiner: I propose that we take the definition from DCAT

14:29:12 <phila> +1 annette_g

Phil Archer: +1 annette_g

14:29:13 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: seems a starting point for me

Hadley Beeman: seems a starting point for me

14:29:17 <Caroline_> +1 annette_g

+1 annette_g

14:29:21 <MTCarrasco> Establised term *must* not be redefined

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Establised term *must* not be redefined

14:29:23 <MakxDekkers> +1

Makx Dekkers: +1

14:29:31 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: the initial ideas might come from the editors

Hadley Beeman: the initial ideas might come from the editors

14:29:33 <Caroline_> +q

+q

14:29:41 <hadleybeeman> ack annet

Hadley Beeman: ack annet

14:29:49 <MakxDekkers> +1 annette

Makx Dekkers: +1 annette

14:30:00 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:30:03 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:30:06 <yaso> scribe: yaso

(Scribe set to Yaso Córdova)

14:30:10 <hadleybeeman> ack caro

Hadley Beeman: ack caro

14:30:20 <phila> q+ to say that http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/#class-dataset defines dataset as A collection of data, published or curated by a single agent, and available for access or download in one or more formats.

Phil Archer: q+ to say that http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/#class-dataset defines dataset as A collection of data, published or curated by a single agent, and available for access or download in one or more formats.

14:30:24 <yaso> Caroline_: I would like to say that Newton, Bernadette and I discussed today

Caroline Burle: I would like to say that Newton, Bernadette and I discussed today

14:30:35 <yaso> … If  you all agree we can do that

… If you all agree we can do that

14:30:50 <ericstephan> +1 for leaving it to the editors to make a first pass recommendation

Eric Stephan: +1 for leaving it to the editors to make a first pass recommendation

14:30:50 <yaso> hadleybeeman: I’m proposing that we can come with a propostal for that

Hadley Beeman: I’m proposing that we can come with a propostal for that

14:31:02 <yaso> Caroline_: we can make a proposal and then the group decides

Caroline Burle: we can make a proposal and then the group decides

14:31:22 <MTCarrasco> +1 for leaving it to the editors to make a first pass recommendation

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1 for leaving it to the editors to make a first pass recommendation

14:31:27 <MTCarrasco> Later one can comment

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Later one can comment

14:31:31 <yaso> … it’s better to discuss with Newton and Bernadette  before senting a proposal

… it’s better to discuss with Newton and Bernadette before senting a proposal

14:31:51 <yaso> hadleybeeman: we have the issues because people said that we have to discuss them

Hadley Beeman: we have the issues because people said that we have to discuss them

14:32:21 <yaso> Caroline_: since we understand that github is not easy for everyone

Caroline Burle: since we understand that github is not easy for everyone

14:32:28 <Caroline_> We put the content on https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_Best_Practices and we will always do the same on the Github http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#intro

Caroline Burle: We put the content on https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_Best_Practices and we will always do the same on the Github http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#intro

14:32:31 <yaso> … we decided that we’re gonna use the wiki

… we decided that we’re gonna use the wiki

14:33:00 <yaso> … we are going to work at the wiki

… we are going to work at the wiki

14:33:00 <Caroline_> Our proposal is to relate the issues with the themes so it is easier to organize

Caroline Burle: Our proposal is to relate the issues with the themes so it is easier to organize

14:33:27 <yaso> … this issues that we discussed, we are going to try to relate them with themes, if the group agrees

… this issues that we discussed, we are going to try to relate them with themes, if the group agrees

14:33:44 <yaso> phil: what goes on github and what goes on the wiki?

Phil Archer: what goes on github and what goes on the wiki?

14:34:07 <ericstephan> If its easier using wiki, its far better to make progress with content.

Eric Stephan: If its easier using wiki, its far better to make progress with content.

14:34:16 <annette_g> data best practice: keep your data in one place only

Annette Greiner: data best practice: keep your data in one place only

14:34:26 <Zakim> -MakxDekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -MakxDekkers

14:34:28 <yaso> Caroline_: the same, we are going to work at the wiki, and then we are going to mirror at github

Caroline Burle: the same, we are going to work at the wiki, and then we are going to mirror at github

14:34:29 <newton> I think Wiki it's more content focused

Newton Calegari: I think Wiki it's more content focused

14:34:37 <yaso> I like github :-/

I like github :-/

14:35:06 <yaso> Caroline_: since our main goal is to have the content, we understand that we should use the wiki

Caroline Burle: since our main goal is to have the content, we understand that we should use the wiki

14:35:21 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers

14:35:21 <phila> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Phil Archer: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

14:35:45 <yaso> :-/ I already lost the battle

:-/ I already lost the battle

14:35:45 <gatemezi> what means "in one place only" ? Is it physical ? URI?  annette_g ?

Ghislain Atemezing: what means "in one place only" ? Is it physical ? URI? annette_g ?

14:35:57 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:36:05 <phila> q- later

Phil Archer: q- later

14:36:11 <yaso> hadleybeeman: are you ok with the amount of work?

Hadley Beeman: are you ok with the amount of work?

14:37:02 <yaso> Caroline_: even Newtonn wants to use the wiki

Caroline Burle: even Newtonn wants to use the wiki

14:37:05 <ericstephan> sounds like a github consultant is needed to put in the content.

Eric Stephan: sounds like a github consultant is needed to put in the content.

14:37:26 <newton> Wiki is more productive to focus on content than github, I think

Newton Calegari: Wiki is more productive to focus on content than github, I think

14:37:36 <gatemezi> I also like Github ;)

Ghislain Atemezing: I also like Github ;)

14:37:43 <Caroline_> yaso: I don't have many contributors outside of the group

Yaso Córdova: I don't have many contributors outside of the group [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:37:50 <ericstephan> +1 doesn't see the point in allowing external people to edit a group draft

Eric Stephan: +1 doesn't see the point in allowing external people to edit a group draft

14:37:51 <phila> I too am uneasy about non-WG members editing the doc.

Phil Archer: I too am uneasy about non-WG members editing the doc.

14:38:00 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

14:38:07 <Caroline_> ... we could have if we use github is okay

Caroline Burle: ... we could have if we use github is okay

14:38:09 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:38:17 <annette_g> q-

Annette Greiner: q-

14:38:19 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: it is good that we keep coming back and check it

Hadley Beeman: it is good that we keep coming back and check it [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:38:22 <phila> Mind you, only WG members have the credentials to accept merges on GitHub

Phil Archer: Mind you, only WG members have the credentials to accept merges on GitHub

14:38:45 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: I am a bit confused by non WG member editing the document

Hadley Beeman: I am a bit confused by non WG member editing the document [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:38:56 <yaso> We could use them both. I think that discussing at github it’s better. Better than emails, not for editing the document

We could use them both. I think that discussing at github it’s better. Better than emails, not for editing the document

14:39:17 <Caroline_> ... I have seen them contributing, but is is unsual them not being a part of the  and edit the document

Caroline Burle: ... I have seen them contributing, but is is unsual them not being a part of the and edit the document

14:39:20 <Caroline_> q+

Caroline Burle: q+

14:39:28 <phila> q- later

Phil Archer: q- later

14:39:37 <hadleybeeman> ACK CARO

Hadley Beeman: ACK CARO

14:39:55 <yaso> Caroline_: just to make a proposal: keep like this

Caroline Burle: just to make a proposal: keep like this

14:40:11 <yaso> … we do it on the wiki and mirror at github

… we do it on the wiki and mirror at github

14:40:27 <yaso> hadleybeeman: for the best practices, you are editor and you can do as you like

Hadley Beeman: for the best practices, you are editor and you can do as you like

14:40:44 <phila> q-

Phil Archer: q-

14:40:46 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:41:36 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: I can think of the wiki in an way to prepare to document

Hadley Beeman: I can think of the wiki in an way to prepare to document [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:42:17 <Caroline_> Caroline_: that is what the editors think should be done

Caroline Burle: that is what the editors think should be done [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:42:58 <yaso> scribe: caroline

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

14:43:02 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: Caroline_ and the other editors of the BP documents

Hadley Beeman: Caroline_ and the other editors of the BP documents

14:43:02 <gatemezi> zakim, who is speaking?

Ghislain Atemezing: zakim, who is speaking?

14:43:13 <Zakim> gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline_ (4%), phila (30%), Eric_Kauz (4%), MTCarrasco (4%), HadleyBeeman (17%)

Zakim IRC Bot: gatemezi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Caroline_ (4%), phila (30%), Eric_Kauz (4%), MTCarrasco (4%), HadleyBeeman (17%)

14:43:17 <Caroline_> ... ask if the contributos mays write each of their sections on the wiki

... ask if the contributos mays write each of their sections on the wiki

14:43:30 <yaso> q?

Yaso Córdova: q?

14:43:30 <Caroline_> as teh place to get all the content

as teh place to get all the content

14:43:39 <Caroline_> phila: I am trying to use github

Phil Archer: I am trying to use github

14:43:47 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:43:48 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:43:50 <Caroline_> ... I much prefer to write HTML

... I much prefer to write HTML

14:44:00 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida

Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida

14:44:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I got to go, bye

Joao Almeida: I got to go, bye

14:44:11 <Caroline_> ... the document on Github is the on that will be translated

... the document on Github is the on that will be translated

14:44:32 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

14:44:35 <Caroline_> ... Caroline_ is saying that if people prefer to write on the wiki it is okay

... Caroline_ is saying that if people prefer to write on the wiki it is okay

14:44:57 <Caroline_> phila: as a member of the group you have made a commitment that you are writing the group

Phil Archer: as a member of the group you have made a commitment that you are writing the group

14:45:21 <Caroline_> ... you cannot allow other people to write it for you because there is a legal process behind it

... you cannot allow other people to write it for you because there is a legal process behind it

14:45:21 <annette_g> q-

Annette Greiner: q-

14:45:44 <Caroline_> ... if there is anything on the document that the members do not agree they are able to say it

... if there is anything on the document that the members do not agree they are able to say it

14:45:57 <Caroline_> ... being members means that you made this commitments

... being members means that you made this commitments

14:46:19 <Caroline_> ... the person editing the document must be a member of the group

... the person editing the document must be a member of the group

14:46:23 <yaso> q+

Yaso Córdova: q+

14:46:46 <Caroline_> ... so if you are editing the document you must be a member of the group

... so if you are editing the document you must be a member of the group

14:46:51 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

14:47:02 <Caroline_> ... of course you may receive contributions, but only members of the group may edit it

... of course you may receive contributions, but only members of the group may edit it

14:47:18 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I wonder if the editors mays provide a template

Eric Stephan: I wonder if the editors mays provide a template

14:47:19 <Caroline_> q+

q+

14:47:39 <Caroline_> ... each of the writers may be not even in their styles

... each of the writers may be not even in their styles

14:47:47 <annette_g> +1 to eric

Annette Greiner: +1 to eric

14:48:00 <yaso> Caroline_: we are already working on that

Caroline Burle: we are already working on that [ Scribe Assist by Yaso Córdova ]

14:48:06 <Caroline_> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#intro

http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#intro

14:48:16 <newton> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bptemplate.html

Newton Calegari: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bptemplate.html

14:48:18 <yaso> … I don’t know if you had a chance to take a look at phil’s work

Yaso Córdova: … I don’t know if you had a chance to take a look at phil’s work

14:48:33 <phila> See, for example, http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#licenses

Phil Archer: See, for example, http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#licenses

14:48:37 <yaso> … there’s a table that is a template there

Yaso Córdova: … there’s a table that is a template there

14:48:45 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:48:53 <Caroline_> scribe: Caroline_
14:48:57 <Caroline_> q-

q-

14:48:58 <hadleybeeman>  ack yaso

Hadley Beeman: ack yaso

14:49:10 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:49:17 <Caroline_> yaso: just to clarify that I did not want people from outsite of the group to contribute in the document

Yaso Córdova: just to clarify that I did not want people from outsite of the group to contribute in the document

14:49:32 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

14:49:34 <Caroline_> ... I just wanted them to be part of the process and be able to see what the WG is doing

... I just wanted them to be part of the process and be able to see what the WG is doing

14:49:39 <Caroline_> phila: about the template

Phil Archer: about the template

14:50:00 <Caroline_> ... what I did was to put the strucuture we talked about a week ago

... what I did was to put the strucuture we talked about a week ago

14:50:16 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy?

14:50:20 <annette_g> q-

Annette Greiner: q-

14:50:26 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

14:50:43 <Caroline_> ... the schema that I put together in guthub it was to mae a HTML version of what we discussed last week

... the schema that I put together in guthub it was to mae a HTML version of what we discussed last week

14:50:51 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

14:50:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Caroline_, phila, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, annette_g, MTCarrasco, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, Antoine, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias, Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Caroline_, phila, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, annette_g, MTCarrasco, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, Antoine, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias, Makx_Dekkers

14:50:54 <Zakim> Caroline_ has newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_ has newton

14:50:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, nathalia, yaso, antoine, newton, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, Caroline_, RRSAgent,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, nathalia, yaso, antoine, newton, ericstephan, MTCarrasco, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, annette_g, RiccardoAlbertoni, Caroline_, RRSAgent,

14:50:54 <Zakim> ... Zakim, AdrianoC, phila, sandro, rhiaro_, hadleybeeman, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... Zakim, AdrianoC, phila, sandro, rhiaro_, hadleybeeman, trackbot

14:50:57 <Caroline_> .... there are 2 things that are hard to differentiate

.... there are 2 things that are hard to differentiate

14:51:03 <Caroline_> ... ???

... ???

14:51:15 <nathalia> Zakim, Caroline has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, Caroline has nathalia

14:51:15 <Zakim> +nathalia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia; got it

14:51:21 <Caroline_> ... as we start to populate it with actual content we may have to revise it

... as we start to populate it with actual content we may have to revise it

14:51:32 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:51:33 <Caroline_> ... I am also concerned of how big it is

... I am also concerned of how big it is

14:51:53 <ericstephan> good point @phila

Eric Stephan: good point @phila

14:52:03 <Caroline_> +1 to phila's concern

+1 to phila's concern

14:52:04 <hadleybeeman> issue: Is the Best practices template still right? http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

ISSUE: Is the Best practices template still right? http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

14:52:04 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-81 - Is the best practices template still right? http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html.  Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/81/edit>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-81 - Is the best practices template still right? http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html. Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/81/edit>.

14:52:10 <hadleybeeman> rrsagent, pointer?

Hadley Beeman: rrsagent, pointer?

14:52:10 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2014/11/07-dwbp-irc#T14-52-10

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2014/11/07-dwbp-irc#T14-52-10

14:52:21 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:52:31 <ericstephan> :-)

Eric Stephan: :-)

14:52:44 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: we haven't followed the agenda but the session has been useful

Hadley Beeman: we haven't followed the agenda but the session has been useful

14:52:50 <Caroline_> ... let's go back to the agenda

... let's go back to the agenda

14:53:04 <Caroline_> ... open issue https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/56

... open issue https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/56

14:53:29 <Caroline_> ... there are many issues we may talk about

... there are many issues we may talk about

14:54:06 <Caroline_> ... the issue https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69 clearly we don't have a use case for that

... the issue https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69 clearly we don't have a use case for that

14:54:08 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:54:17 <hadleybeeman> issue-69?

Hadley Beeman: ISSUE-69?

14:54:17 <trackbot> issue-69 -- Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no use cases for it -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-69 -- Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no use cases for it -- open

14:54:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69

14:54:17 <Caroline_> ... does anyone want to write a use case about it?

... does anyone want to write a use case about it?

14:54:18 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:54:29 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

14:54:30 <phila> ack ericstephan

Phil Archer: ack ericstephan

14:54:56 <hadleybeeman> ack annette

Hadley Beeman: ack annette

14:54:56 <phila> ericstephan: One of our use cases implies versioning but we didn't bring it out very clearly

Eric Stephan: One of our use cases implies versioning but we didn't bring it out very clearly [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:55:11 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I do have a use case that I need to follow up and bring it clearly

Eric Stephan: I do have a use case that I need to follow up and bring it clearly

14:55:14 <phila> annette_g: I have a use cases too but it's quite complex

Annette Greiner: I have a use cases too but it's quite complex [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:55:21 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: having multiple using cases is not a bad thing

Hadley Beeman: having multiple using cases is not a bad thing

14:55:29 <Caroline_> ... it would be wonderful

... it would be wonderful

14:55:32 <hadleybeeman> action: eric stephan to bring out the versioning issues in his use case (ref issue 69)

ACTION: eric stephan to bring out the versioning issues in his use case (ref ISSUE-69)

14:55:32 <trackbot> 'eric' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ek1, estephan).

Trackbot IRC Bot: 'eric' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ek1, estephan).

14:55:43 <hadleybeeman> action: ericstephan to bring out the versioning issues in his use case (ref issue 69)

ACTION: ericstephan to bring out the versioning issues in his use case (ref ISSUE-69)

14:55:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-128 - Bring out the versioning issues in his use case (ref issue 69) [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-11-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-128 - Bring out the versioning issues in his use case (ref ISSUE-69) [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-11-14].

14:55:47 <Caroline_> ... annette_g I may focus on the versioning

... annette_g I may focus on the versioning

14:55:56 <hadleybeeman> action: annette to write a use case focusing on versioning (ref issue 69)

ACTION: annette to write a use case focusing on versioning (ref ISSUE-69)

14:55:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-129 - Write a use case focusing on versioning (ref issue 69) [on Annette Greiner - due 2014-11-14].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-129 - Write a use case focusing on versioning (ref ISSUE-69) [on Annette Greiner - due 2014-11-14].

14:56:06 <ericstephan> @annette_g did you see the second round use case wiki page I entered your mass spec use case?

Eric Stephan: @annette_g did you see the second round use case wiki page I entered your mass spec use case?

14:56:29 <annette_g> @eric yes thank you for putting that in!

Annette Greiner: @eric yes thank you for putting that in!

14:56:45 <Caroline_> ericstephan: to talk about the use cases

Eric Stephan: to talk about the use cases

14:56:55 <phila> The Mass Spectrometry Use case is at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#Mass_Spectrometry_Imaging_.28MSI.29

Phil Archer: The Mass Spectrometry Use case is at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#Mass_Spectrometry_Imaging_.28MSI.29

14:56:59 <Caroline_> Zakim, who is speaking?

Zakim, who is speaking?

14:57:08 <ericstephan> @phila thank you

Eric Stephan: @phila thank you

14:57:09 <Zakim> Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Eric_Kauz (4%), annette_g (75%), HadleyBeeman (20%), ericstephan (4%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Caroline_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Eric_Kauz (4%), annette_g (75%), HadleyBeeman (20%), ericstephan (4%)

14:57:40 <Caroline_> hadleybeeman: how do we go about filling the requirments

Annette Greiner: how do we go about filling the requirments

14:57:47 <hadleybeeman> s/hadleybeeman/annette_g
14:58:02 <Caroline_> ericstephan: I will look at the requirments that are already tehre

Eric Stephan: I will look at the requirments that are already there

14:58:09 <Caroline_> s/tehre/there
14:58:17 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:58:40 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco

14:58:41 <Caroline_> bye!

bye!

14:58:44 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

14:58:45 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz

Zakim IRC Bot: -Eric_Kauz

14:58:47 <CarlosIglesias> see you!

Carlos Iglesias: see you!

14:58:48 <RiccardoAlbertoni> bye

Riccardo Albertoni: bye

14:58:48 <Zakim> -Caroline_

Zakim IRC Bot: -Caroline_

14:58:49 <Zakim> -Antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -Antoine

14:58:49 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers

Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers

14:58:49 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan

14:58:52 <yaso> Bye all :-)

Yaso Córdova: Bye all :-)

14:58:52 <Zakim> -phila

Zakim IRC Bot: -phila

14:58:53 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:58:53 <Zakim> -annette_g

Zakim IRC Bot: -annette_g

14:58:56 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias

14:58:58 <annette_g> bye

Annette Greiner: bye

14:58:58 <Zakim> -lewismc

Zakim IRC Bot: -lewismc

14:59:00 <AdrianoC> Bye

Adriano Pereira: Bye

14:59:00 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -RiccardoAlbertoni

14:59:00 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:59:00 <Zakim> Attendees were yaso, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, MTCarrasco, laufer, Antoine, annette_g, newton, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were yaso, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Eric_Kauz, lewismc, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, MTCarrasco, laufer, Antoine, annette_g, newton, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias,

14:59:00 <Zakim> ... MakxDekkers, Makx_Dekkers, nathalia

Zakim IRC Bot: ... MakxDekkers, Makx_Dekkers, nathalia



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