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12:58:09 <PhilA> action-1?
12:58:09 <trackbot> action-1 -- Eric Stephan to Begin a wiki page of background reading for wg members -- due 2014-02-21 -- CLOSED
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12:58:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/1
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12:59:44 <Zakim> +??P11
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13:00:01 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, ??P11 is me
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, ??P11 is me ←
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13:00:08 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
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13:00:26 <laufer> +laufer
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13:00:34 <PhilA> zakim, ??P10
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13:00:34 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P10', PhilA
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13:00:39 <PhilA> zakim, mute ??P10
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13:00:39 <Zakim> ??P10 should now be muted
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13:00:58 <PhilA> zakim, Ig_Bittencourt is really jerdeb
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13:00:58 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
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13:01:06 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
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13:01:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see PhilA, ??P10 (muted), jerdeb, HadleyBeeman
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13:01:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, jerdeb, trackbot, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, Ig_Bittencourt, ivan
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13:01:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:01:19 <PhilA> zakim, ??P10 is Ig_Bittencourt
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13:01:19 <Zakim> +Ig_Bittencourt; got it
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13:01:23 <PhilA> zakim, unmute Ig_Bittencourt
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13:01:23 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should no longer be muted
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13:01:25 <Zakim> +??P13
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13:01:35 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me
Carlos Laufer: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
13:01:35 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
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13:01:35 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P13 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P13 is me ←
13:01:36 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
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13:02:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:02:49 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:02:49 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
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13:03:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:03:36 <HadleyBeeman> HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014502
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13:03:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me
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13:03:41 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
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13:03:48 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
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13:03:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, jerdeb, HadleyBeeman, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, antoine, JoaoPauloAlmeida
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13:03:49 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me ←
13:03:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see MakxDekkers, JoaoPauloAlmeida, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman, jerdeb, trackbot, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, Ig_Bittencourt, ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MakxDekkers, JoaoPauloAlmeida, antoine, BernadetteLoscio, HadleyBeeman, jerdeb, trackbot, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, Ig_Bittencourt, ivan ←
13:03:51 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
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13:04:20 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> All well behaved
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13:04:31 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> :-)
Joao Almeida: :-) ←
13:04:39 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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13:04:39 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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13:04:41 <Zakim> +Ivan
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13:05:15 <HadleyBeeman> scribe: antoine
(Scribe set to Antoine Isaac)
13:05:22 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, mute me
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13:05:22 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted
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13:05:27 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-04-25
Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-04-25 ←
13:05:46 <ivan> zakim, mute me
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13:05:46 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
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13:05:47 <antoine> PROPOSED to accept last week's minutes
PROPOSED to accept last week's minutes ←
13:05:53 <Zakim> + +1.609.947.aaaa
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13:06:07 <HadleyBeeman> +1
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13:06:17 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> 0 (wasn't there)
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13:06:17 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:06:21 <laufer> +1
Carlos Laufer: +1 ←
13:06:23 <Ig_Bittencourt> +1
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13:06:41 <antoine> RESOLVED to accept last week's minutes
RESOLVED to accept last week's minutes ←
13:06:51 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open ←
13:06:53 <antoine> Topic: Action items
13:06:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:07:07 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio ←
13:07:07 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
13:07:12 <Zakim> +??P19
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19 ←
13:07:15 <HadleyBeeman> action-20?
13:07:15 <trackbot> action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN ←
13:07:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20 ←
13:07:16 <cgueret> zakim, +P19 is me
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13:07:17 <Zakim> sorry, cgueret, I do not recognize a party named '+P19'
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13:07:23 <cgueret> zakim, ??P19 is me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P19 is me ←
13:07:23 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it ←
13:07:30 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me ←
13:07:30 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
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13:07:38 <antoine> Bernadette: still working on this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: still working on this ←
13:07:47 <Zakim> +??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20 ←
13:07:56 <antoine> ... discussing with students. Nothing more concrete yet.
... discussing with students. Nothing more concrete yet. ←
13:08:01 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P20 is really me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P20 is really me ←
13:08:01 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it ←
13:08:15 <antoine> ... some cases are really related to data usage.
... some cases are really related to data usage. ←
13:08:26 <antoine> ... we could make notes int he sue cases that we have.
... we could make notes int he sue cases that we have. ←
13:08:46 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers ←
13:08:49 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: what's next?
Hadley Beeman: what's next? ←
13:09:05 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: we have to wait for the application mentioned last week
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have to wait for the application mentioned last week ←
13:09:10 <MakxDekkers> zakim, mute me
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13:09:10 <Zakim> Makx_Dekkers should now be muted
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13:09:10 <antoine> ... to get info from CKAN users
... to get info from CKAN users ←
13:09:18 <antoine> ... For now we need examples (real)
... For now we need examples (real) ←
13:09:27 <Zakim> +??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←
13:09:47 <yaso> ZZakim, +??P22 it's yaso
Yaso Córdova: ZZakim, +??P22 it's yaso ←
13:09:47 <antoine> ... We have some scenarios in the Use case, but it would be good if we can get info from real web data users
... We have some scenarios in the Use case, but it would be good if we can get info from real web data users ←
13:10:19 <antoine> ... I'm not sure, we need a way to get the info
... I'm not sure, we need a way to get the info ←
13:10:29 <antoine> ... The way I can see now is this CKAN extension
... The way I can see now is this CKAN extension ←
13:10:33 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:10:46 <HadleyBeeman> ack phila
Hadley Beeman: ack phila ←
13:10:50 <antoine> ... for getting info about data usage. From there, real scenarios.
... for getting info about data usage. From there, real scenarios. ←
13:10:55 <Zakim> + +44.122.333.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.122.333.aabb ←
13:11:09 <antoine> PhilA: you have students working on CKAN extension, do you?
Phil Archer: you have students working on CKAN extension, do you? ←
13:11:14 <markharrison> zakim, aabb is markharrison
Mark Harrison: zakim, aabb is markharrison ←
13:11:14 <Zakim> +markharrison; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +markharrison; got it ←
13:11:17 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: we are discussing how we can get info.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we are discussing how we can get info. ←
13:11:42 <antoine> ... We're thinking about what kind of info we can get.
... We're thinking about what kind of info we can get. ←
13:12:02 <antoine> PhilA: How about iterative process, making a best guess, building feedback, improving extensions
Phil Archer: How about iterative process, making a best guess, building extension and then get feedback, improving extensions ←
13:12:07 <antoine> ... do you have the resources for this?
... do you have the resources for this? ←
13:12:26 <antoine> s/feedback/extension and then get feedback
13:12:37 <yaso> zakim, mute me
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13:12:37 <Zakim> sorry, yaso, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
13:12:45 <antoine> PhilA: Would you have resource to re-build in the extension in the next term?
Phil Archer: Would you have resource to re-build in the extension in the next term? ←
13:12:47 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio:
13:12:55 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: we could work like this
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we could work like this ←
13:12:55 <PhilA> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Apr/0000.html
Phil Archer: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Apr/0000.html ←
13:13:01 <yaso> Zakim, +??P22 it's me
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, +??P22 it's me ←
13:13:01 <Zakim> I don't understand '+??P22 it's me', yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '+??P22 it's me', yaso ←
13:13:05 <antoine> ... have one version and then enhance it.
... have one version and then enhance it. ←
13:13:18 <antoine> PhilA: the CKAN product manager said they were open
Phil Archer: the CKAN product manager said they were open ←
13:13:20 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, ??P22 is yaso
Hadley Beeman: zakim, ??P22 is yaso ←
13:13:21 <Zakim> +yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it ←
13:13:39 <antoine> ... getting their support is really important
... getting their support is really important ←
13:13:44 <yaso> Hadleybeeman thanks :-)
Yaso Córdova: Hadleybeeman thanks :-) ←
13:13:46 <antoine> ... they may want to have a say in it.
... they may want to have a say in it. ←
13:13:55 <yaso> Zakim, mute me
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, mute me ←
13:13:55 <Zakim> yaso should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso should now be muted ←
13:14:03 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: I'd like ot get sthg a bit more concrete
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'd like to get sthg a bit more concrete ←
13:14:07 <antoine> s/ot/to
13:14:21 <antoine> ... I couldn't finish yet. Hopefully edn of next week
... I couldn't finish yet. Hopefully end of next week ←
13:14:34 <antoine> .... I will send sthg to the group and then to CKAN
.... I will send sthg to the group and then to CKAN ←
13:14:38 <antoine> s/edn/end
13:14:55 <antoine> PhilA: no trying to press you. When you're ready, it's easy to arrange contacts w/ CKAN
Phil Archer: no trying to press you. When you're ready, it's easy to arrange contacts w/ CKAN ←
13:15:10 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
13:15:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:15:15 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: students are discovering CKAN
Bernadette Farias Loscio: students are discovering CKAN ←
13:15:28 <Zakim> +??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←
13:15:56 <antoine> ... I hope in July we'll have a first version.
... I hope in July we'll have a first version. ←
13:16:00 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
13:16:11 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: my questions are just about timing
Hadley Beeman: my questions are just about timing ←
13:16:18 <antoine> ... I want to make sure you have enough time
... I want to make sure you have enough time ←
13:16:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:16:38 <antoine> ... at the same time I don't want to hold off the work on data usage vocabulary
... at the same time I don't want to hold off the work on data usage vocabulary ←
13:16:41 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P11 is me
Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P11 is me ←
13:16:42 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
13:16:44 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: agree
Bernadette Farias Loscio: agree ←
13:17:02 <Eric_Kauz> Yes I am
13:17:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> giancarlo_guizzardi, was that you?
Joao Almeida: giancarlo_guizzardi, was that you? ←
13:17:54 <giancarlo_guizzardi> I just joined
Giancarlo Guizzardi: I just joined ←
13:18:01 <giancarlo_guizzardi> however the audio is horrible
Giancarlo Guizzardi: however the audio is horrible ←
13:18:06 <Ig_Bittencourt> Probably giancarlo_guizzardi
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Probably giancarlo_guizzardi ←
13:18:07 <giancarlo_guizzardi> and I cannot here you at all
Giancarlo Guizzardi: and I cannot here you at all ←
13:18:20 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is giancarlo_guizzardi
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is giancarlo_guizzardi ←
13:18:20 <Zakim> +giancarlo_guizzardi; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +giancarlo_guizzardi; got it ←
13:18:23 <BernadetteLoscio> jerdeb
Bernadette Farias Loscio: jerdeb ←
13:18:30 <HadleyBeeman> action-22?
13:18:30 <trackbot> action-22 -- Deirdre Lee to Work with bernadette to ensure that each requirement links back to a use case -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-22 -- Deirdre Lee to Work with bernadette to ensure that each requirement links back to a use case -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN ←
13:18:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/22
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/22 ←
13:18:31 <antoine> action--22?
action--22? ←
13:18:31 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is making noise?
Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is making noise? ←
13:18:42 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (39%)
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (39%) ←
13:18:49 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: we are working on the document
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we are working on the document ←
13:19:08 <antoine> ... the use cases that we have are included
... the use cases that we have are included ←
13:19:26 <antoine> ... linking use cases and requirements. Still ongoing
... linking use cases and requirements. Still ongoing ←
13:19:34 <PhilA> The doc BernadetteLoscio is talking about is at http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/blob/master/usecasesv1.html
Phil Archer: The doc BernadetteLoscio is talking about is at http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/dwbp/blob/master/usecasesv1.html ←
13:19:48 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: the hope was to get a first WD at the F2F. What's the schedule now?
Hadley Beeman: the hope was to get a first WD at the F2F. What's the schedule now? ←
13:19:59 <antoine> ... the draft needs not be fully baked
... the draft needs not be fully baked ←
13:20:11 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: 1-2 weeks probably
Bernadette Farias Loscio: 1-2 weeks probably ←
13:20:19 <antoine> ... I'll contact Deirdre
... I'll contact Deirdre ←
13:20:33 <antoine> ... I think it's almost finished
... I think it's almost finished ←
13:20:36 <giancarlo_guizzardi> I will leave the audio channel until I solve this problem and remaining only in the chat
Giancarlo Guizzardi: I will leave the audio channel until I solve this problem and remaining only in the chat ←
13:20:39 <Zakim> -giancarlo_guizzardi
Zakim IRC Bot: -giancarlo_guizzardi ←
13:20:50 <antoine> ACTION: BernadetteLoscio to come back with schedule to the WG
ACTION: BernadetteLoscio to come back with schedule to the WG ←
13:20:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-30 - Come back with schedule to the wg [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-05-09].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-30 - Come back with schedule to the wg [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-05-09]. ←
13:21:31 <HadleyBeeman> action-23?
13:21:31 <trackbot> action-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN ←
13:21:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23 ←
13:22:18 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: this is now part of the other action, how we are going to use these vocs for getting info about data usage
Bernadette Farias Loscio: this is now part of the other action, how we are going to use these vocs for getting info about data usage ←
13:22:20 <antoine> q+
q+ ←
13:22:34 <PhilA> ack antoine
Phil Archer: ack antoine ←
13:22:52 <PhilA> antoine: Was the action to look at how to do a vocab document?
Antoine Isaac: Was the action to look at how to do a vocab document? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:23:35 <PhilA> antoine: BernadetteLoscio said she's look at the other vocabs to see how these vocab requirements documents to see how to do it
Antoine Isaac: BernadetteLoscio said she's look at the other vocabs to see how these vocab requirements documents to see how to do it [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:23:50 <PhilA> BernadetteLoscio: That would be interesting but it's not the action, but it would be good.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: That would be interesting but it's not the action, but it would be good. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:24:00 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Do we need to do that in order to begin the vocabs?
Hadley Beeman: Do we need to do that in order to begin the vocabs? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:24:34 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: it's interesting to look if these vocabularies are enough
Bernadette Farias Loscio: it's interesting to look if these vocabularies are enough ←
13:24:56 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:25:00 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: I think this comes down to the people editing our vocabularies
Hadley Beeman: I think this comes down to the people editing our vocabularies ←
13:25:03 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:25:28 <antoine> PhilA: on how to document a vocabulary, there are several things happening
Phil Archer: on how to document a vocabulary, there are several things happening ←
13:25:40 <antoine> ... e.g. the Multilingual Web group
... e.g. the Multilingual Web group ←
13:25:58 <antoine> ... looking at what vocabulary documentation should be like
... looking at what vocabulary documentation should be like ←
13:26:05 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute bernadette
Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute bernadette ←
13:26:05 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
13:26:10 <antoine> ... previous doc is done manually
... previous doc is done manually ←
13:26:17 <antoine> ... translation raises a lot of question
... translation raises a lot of question ←
13:26:20 <BernadetteLoscio> its ok :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: its ok :) ←
13:26:37 <antoine> ... I'm hoping the MLW group will produce best practices.
... I'm hoping the MLW group will produce best practices. ←
13:26:40 <BernadetteLoscio> yes ;)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes ;) ←
13:26:49 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/community/mws/ Multilingual Web Community Group site
Ivan Herman: -> http://www.w3.org/community/mws/ Multilingual Web Community Group site ←
13:27:03 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: we need editors for vocabularies and best practices
Hadley Beeman: we need editors for vocabularies and best practices ←
13:27:21 <HadleyBeeman> action-24?
13:27:21 <trackbot> action-24 -- Phil Archer to Draft uml diagram for vocab(s) -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-24 -- Phil Archer to Draft uml diagram for vocab(s) -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN ←
13:27:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/24
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/24 ←
13:27:40 <PhilA> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Quality_and_Granularity_Description_Vocabulary
Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Quality_and_Granularity_Description_Vocabulary ←
13:28:13 <antoine> PhilA: I've started today, still working on it
Phil Archer: I've started today, still working on it ←
13:28:19 <antoine> ... the diagram is still a draft
... the diagram is still a draft ←
13:28:33 <antoine> ... More importantly is the text
... More importantly is the text ←
13:28:54 <antoine> .. summarizing the discussions at the F2F in London
.. summarizing the discussions at the F2F in London ←
13:29:07 <antoine> ... looking at the ODI certificates
... looking at the ODI certificates ←
13:29:30 <antoine> ... I've tried to put this on the diagram
... I've tried to put this on the diagram ←
13:29:51 <antoine> ... some ideas are difficult to tie down, except in terms of a lot of documentation
... some ideas are difficult to tie down, except in terms of a lot of documentation ←
13:30:12 <antoine> ... we should think on what we expect to be machine-readable
... we should think on what we expect to be machine-readable ←
13:30:20 <antoine> ... which is a separate from the idea of computing metrcis
... which is a separate from the idea of computing metrcis ←
13:30:30 <antoine> ... There are different ways to tackle this
... There are different ways to tackle this ←
13:30:37 <antoine> ... I hope to carry on the discussion
... I hope to carry on the discussion ←
13:30:46 <MakxDekkers> Great stuff, Phil
Makx Dekkers: Great stuff, Phil ←
13:30:54 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
13:30:58 <antoine> ... The first thing would be to create Issues
... The first thing would be to create Issues ←
13:31:03 <BernadetteLoscio> that's great Phil!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: that's great Phil! ←
13:31:10 <Zakim> +??P6
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6 ←
13:31:17 <MakxDekkers> Where can I sign up?
Makx Dekkers: Where can I sign up? ←
13:31:22 <antoine> ... on a separate vocabulary mailing list
... on a separate vocabulary mailing list ←
13:31:25 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P6 is me
Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P6 is me ←
13:31:25 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
13:31:32 <antoine> ... It's not automatic sign-up, you'll have to opt-in
... It's not automatic sign-up, you'll have to opt-in ←
13:31:49 <Ig_Bittencourt> Thanks PhilA. I would like to participate in this discussion in the other list.
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Thanks PhilA. I would like to participate in this discussion in the other list. ←
13:32:01 <HadleyBeeman> action-225?
13:32:01 <trackbot> Sorry, but action-225 does not exist.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, but ACTION-225 does not exist. ←
13:32:04 <HadleyBeeman> action-25?
13:32:04 <trackbot> action-25 -- Carlos Iglesias to Prepare skeleton best practice wiki pages for each emerging best practice, including its id -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-25 -- Carlos Iglesias to Prepare skeleton best practice wiki pages for each emerging best practice, including its id -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN ←
13:32:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/25
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/25 ←
13:32:51 <antoine> CarlosIglesias: the mapping is still pending. I can do this for next week.
Carlos Iglesias: the mapping is still pending. I can do this for next week. ←
13:33:11 <antoine> ... it is difficult to understand to fill all sections.
... it is difficult to understand to fill all sections. ←
13:33:21 <antoine> ... I could complete some samples that we have been discussing already
... I could complete some samples that we have been discussing already ←
13:33:27 <antoine> ... and wait for others' feedback
... and wait for others' feedback ←
13:33:36 <antoine> ... see if it's the good approach or not
... see if it's the good approach or not ←
13:34:06 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: it seems we should close the existing action and record a new one on creating the mapping and the examples
Hadley Beeman: it seems we should close the existing action and record a new one on creating the mapping and the examples ←
13:34:19 <antoine> ... what needs to happen after this?
... what needs to happen after this? ←
13:34:29 <antoine> CarlosIglesias: we need to discuss in group the different best practices
Carlos Iglesias: we need to discuss in group the different best practices ←
13:34:49 <BernadetteLoscio> +q
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +q ←
13:34:56 <antoine> ... and gather the result in templates, getting more stable conclusion on each practice.
... and gather the result in templates, getting more stable conclusion on each practice. ←
13:34:57 <HadleyBeeman> ack bern
Hadley Beeman: ack bern ←
13:35:50 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: we can also take a look at the requirements. There can be relation with best practices.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we can also take a look at the requirements. There can be relation with best practices. ←
13:36:09 <antoine> ... The best practices should come from the requirements.
... The best practices should come from the requirements. ←
13:36:21 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:36:21 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
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13:36:49 <antoine> CarlosIglesias: Ideally we should be able to do the mapping between BP and Reqs.
Carlos Iglesias: Ideally we should be able to do the mapping between BP and Reqs. ←
13:36:54 <BernadetteLoscio> yes
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes ←
13:37:01 <antoine> ... if new Req emerge there should be corresponding BPs
... if new Req emerge there should be corresponding BPs ←
13:37:17 <antoine> ... I can add a new section linking BPs and Reqs
... I can add a new section linking BPs and Reqs ←
13:37:19 <antoine> q+
q+ ←
13:37:23 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes! ←
13:37:56 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:37:56 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted
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13:38:10 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
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13:38:16 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: good idea
Bernadette Farias Loscio: good idea ←
13:38:30 <antoine> .. when we have the named requirements
.. when we have the named requirements ←
13:38:49 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
13:38:51 <PhilA> ack an
Phil Archer: ack an ←
13:38:56 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:38:56 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
13:39:00 <PhilA> ack antoine
Phil Archer: ack antoine ←
13:39:19 <antoine> PhilA: it looks good if there is a link
Phil Archer: it looks good if there is a link ←
13:39:40 <BernadetteLoscio> yes.. its ok
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes.. its ok ←
13:39:47 <antoine> antoine: it's even better if it's not a new section. Just put the link to the req in the individual BP section
Antoine Isaac: it's even better if it's not a new section. Just put the link to the req in the individual BP section ←
13:40:02 <PhilA> close action-25
Phil Archer: close ACTION-25 ←
13:40:02 <trackbot> Closed action-25.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-25. ←
13:40:29 <BernadetteLoscio> yes...
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes... ←
13:40:29 <antoine> ACTION: CarlosIglesias to do mapping between the Best Practices and Challenges and the Requirements and add concrete examples
ACTION: CarlosIglesias to do mapping between the Best Practices and Challenges and the Requirements and add concrete examples ←
13:40:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-31 - Do mapping between the best practices and challenges and the requirements and add concrete examples [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2014-05-09].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-31 - Do mapping between the best practices and challenges and the requirements and add concrete examples [on Carlos Iglesias - due 2014-05-09]. ←
13:40:38 <HadleyBeeman> action-26?
13:40:38 <trackbot> action-26 -- Antoine Isaac to Review paul groth's paper and report to the wg -- due 2014-04-18 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-26 -- Antoine Isaac to Review paul groth's paper and report to the wg -- due 2014-04-18 -- OPEN ←
13:40:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/26
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/26 ←
13:40:47 <PhilA> close action-24
Phil Archer: close ACTION-24 ←
13:40:48 <trackbot> Closed action-24.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-24. ←
13:41:31 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: why this action?
Hadley Beeman: why this action? ←
13:41:33 <HadleyBeeman> action-28?
13:41:33 <trackbot> action-28 -- Eric Stephan to Write some other examples that are no open data -- due 2014-05-02 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-28 -- Eric Stephan to Write some other examples that are no open data -- due 2014-05-02 -- OPEN ←
13:41:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/28
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/28 ←
13:41:50 <antoine> antoine: we think that Prov-O has been used to represent quality-related info
Antoine Isaac: we think that Prov-O has been used to represent quality-related info ←
13:41:56 <HadleyBeeman> action-29?
13:41:56 <trackbot> action-29 -- Carlos Laufer to Describe a new use case for http://bio2rdf.org/ -- due 2014-05-02 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-29 -- Carlos Laufer to Describe a new use case for http://bio2rdf.org/ -- due 2014-05-02 -- OPEN ←
13:41:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/29
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/29 ←
13:42:01 <laufer> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Bio2RDF
Carlos Laufer: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Bio2RDF ←
13:42:16 <antoine> laufer: cf link. It's now added to the wiki.
Carlos Laufer: cf link. It's now added to the wiki. ←
13:42:24 <PhilA> regrets: Eric Stephan, Vagner, Deirdre, Steve
13:42:31 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: anything you wanted to do further?
Hadley Beeman: anything you wanted to do further? ←
13:42:37 <antoine> laufer: it's ok
Carlos Laufer: it's ok ←
13:42:54 <PhilA> close action-29
Phil Archer: close ACTION-29 ←
13:42:54 <trackbot> Closed action-29.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-29. ←
13:43:26 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:43:29 <BernadetteLoscio> q-
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q- ←
13:43:35 <antoine> laufer: case is different from CKAN
Carlos Laufer: case is different from CKAN ←
13:43:40 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:43:40 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted ←
13:44:05 <antoine> BernadetteLoscio: RDF is different, but you can also have RDF in CKAN
Bernadette Farias Loscio: RDF is different, but you can also have RDF in CKAN ←
13:44:15 <antoine> ... RDF files are ok
... RDF files are ok ←
13:44:31 <antoine> ... CKAN is just a data catalogue
... CKAN is just a data catalogue ←
13:44:33 <antoine> q?
q? ←
13:44:33 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
13:44:36 <antoine> q+
q+ ←
13:44:57 <antoine> ... I am using it to make data avaialble
... I am using it to make data avaialble ←
13:45:04 <HadleyBeeman> ack laufer
Hadley Beeman: ack laufer ←
13:45:06 <antoine> s/avaialble
s/available ←
13:45:13 <antoine> s/avaialble/available
13:45:26 <antoine> laufer: the catalogue is not the data
Carlos Laufer: the catalogue is not the data ←
13:45:36 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
13:45:52 <PhilA> +1 to what Laufer is saying
Phil Archer: +1 to what Laufer is saying ←
13:46:17 <HadleyBeeman> ack antoine
Hadley Beeman: ack antoine ←
13:46:17 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio ←
13:46:18 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
13:46:37 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
13:46:50 <antoine> ... RDF is format for data and metadata
... RDF is format for data and metadata ←
13:46:55 <Zakim> +??P6
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6 ←
13:46:59 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
13:47:04 <antoine> ... CKAN is platform for putting these things
... CKAN is platform for putting these things ←
13:47:09 <jerdeb> Zakim, ??P6 is me
Jeremy Debattista: Zakim, ??P6 is me ←
13:47:09 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
13:47:32 <HadleyBeeman> http://docs.ckan.org/en/ckan-1.8/domain-model.html
Hadley Beeman: http://docs.ckan.org/en/ckan-1.8/domain-model.html ←
13:47:38 <HadleyBeeman> ack hadley
Hadley Beeman: ack hadley ←
13:48:09 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: CKAN has a clear distinction between data and metadata
Hadley Beeman: CKAN has a clear distinction between data and metadata ←
13:48:26 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1 ←
13:48:31 <cgueret> +1
Christophe Gueret: +1 ←
13:48:37 <antoine> ... 2nd: I'd like to move away from catalogues
... 2nd: I'd like to move away from catalogues ←
13:48:40 <PhilA> +10^2 to HadleyBeeman
Phil Archer: +10^2 to HadleyBeeman ←
13:48:41 <BernadetteLoscio> q-
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q- ←
13:48:46 <HadleyBeeman> q>
Hadley Beeman: q> ←
13:48:47 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:48:51 <antoine> q+
q+ ←
13:48:56 <HadleyBeeman> ack antoine
Hadley Beeman: ack antoine ←
13:49:00 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> it would be interesting if you would put this ideas on the e-mail, Hadley
Joao Almeida: it would be interesting if you would put this ideas on the e-mail, Hadley ←
13:49:02 <markharrison> +1 to HadleyBeeman re self-describing data vs catalogues
Mark Harrison: +1 to HadleyBeeman re self-describing data vs catalogues ←
13:49:08 <PhilA> antoine: I'd like to second what you said, Hadley
Antoine Isaac: I'd like to second what you said, Hadley [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
13:49:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> than you could elaborate on your view
Joao Almeida: then you could elaborate on your view ←
13:49:14 <HadleyBeeman> okay, joaopaulo. I'll do that.
Hadley Beeman: okay, joaopaulo. I'll do that. ←
13:49:16 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> s/than/then
13:49:26 <PhilA> ... cgueret and I had a long discussion about what you get on the Web
Phil Archer: ... cgueret and I had a long discussion about what you get on the Web ←
13:49:35 <HadleyBeeman> action Hadley to write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues
Hadley Beeman: action Hadley to write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues ←
13:49:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-32 - Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues [on Hadley Beeman - due 2014-05-09].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-32 - Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues [on Hadley Beeman - due 2014-05-09]. ←
13:49:41 <PhilA> ... but we haven't found a better solution than a catalogue
Phil Archer: ... but we haven't found a better solution than a catalogue ←
13:49:47 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q
Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←
13:49:51 <PhilA> ... if we can help move away from that, that would be good
Phil Archer: ... if we can help move away from that, that would be good ←
13:50:23 <PhilA> q+ to talk about SEO
Phil Archer: q+ to talk about SEO ←
13:50:25 <HadleyBeeman> ack bart
Hadley Beeman: ack bart ←
13:50:31 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: we need to make it easier for crawlers to get metadata
Hadley Beeman: we need to make it easier for crawlers to get metadata ←
13:50:48 <antoine> BartvanLeeuwen: a web of discoverable data would be great indeed
Bart van Leeuwen: a web of discoverable data would be great indeed ←
13:51:01 <antoine> ... I don't see problem with catalogues
... I don't see problem with catalogues ←
13:51:19 <antoine> ... the question is what is your main source.
... the question is what is your main source. ←
13:51:23 <markharrison> q+
Mark Harrison: q+ ←
13:51:28 <laufer> q+
Carlos Laufer: q+ ←
13:51:49 <antoine> HadleyBeeman: when we search for sthg, we discriminate based on domain, deisng of site
Hadley Beeman: when we search for sthg, we discriminate based on domain, deisng of site ←
13:52:02 <antoine> ... this behaviour could be applied to data.
... this behaviour could be applied to data. ←
13:52:13 <antoine> ... I don't see why we'd need a catalogue
... I don't see why we'd need a catalogue ←
13:52:32 <antoine> ... I'm bypassing the issues of search engines and ranking
... I'm bypassing the issues of search engines and ranking ←
13:52:44 <antoine> ... Have we got an alternative to catalogues?
... Have we got an alternative to catalogues? ←
13:53:07 <antoine> ... At the early days of the Web (before pagerank) people were rlying on catalogues
... At the early days of the Web (before pagerank) people were rlying on catalogues ←
13:53:12 <antoine> ... geocities etc.
... geocities etc. ←
13:53:22 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:53:22 <Zakim> PhilA, you wanted to talk about SEO
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, you wanted to talk about SEO ←
13:53:25 <antoine> ... When pagerank came in catalogues became obsolete
... When pagerank came in catalogues became obsolete ←
13:53:29 <HadleyBeeman> ack phil
Hadley Beeman: ack phil ←
13:53:56 <antoine> PhilA: is SEO what we need to think about?
Phil Archer: is SEO what we need to think about? ←
13:54:03 <antoine> ... should we think about pagerank?
... should we think about pagerank? ←
13:54:18 <antoine> ... then we end up talking about schema.org, RDFa...
... then we end up talking about schema.org, RDFa... ←
13:54:43 <antoine> ... if we agree then we should think about the best practices for search engines
... if we agree then we should think about the best practices for search engines ←
13:54:50 <antoine> ... HTML pages with embedded schema.org
... HTML pages with embedded schema.org ←
13:54:53 <antoine> +1
+1 ←
13:54:57 <HadleyBeeman> ack mark
Hadley Beeman: ack mark ←
13:55:20 <antoine> markharrison: much of the discussion has been about authority
Mark Harrison: much of the discussion has been about authority ←
13:55:47 <antoine> ... wherever there's a code about product there is an agency behind this
... wherever there's a code about product there is an agency behind this ←
13:56:18 <antoine> ... there is a role for a catalogue function for authority
... there is a role for a catalogue function for authority ←
13:56:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> +q
Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←
13:56:25 <PhilA> +1 to Mark - it's in the DQGV https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Quality_and_Granularity_Description_Vocabulary#Expert
Phil Archer: +1 to Mark - it's in the DQGV https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Quality_and_Granularity_Description_Vocabulary#Expert ←
13:56:26 <antoine> ... even though others may say things about data
... even though others may say things about data ←
13:56:41 <antoine> ... there's a bit of this in the use case
... there's a bit of this in the use case ←
13:56:42 <HadleyBeeman> ack laufer
Hadley Beeman: ack laufer ←
13:57:11 <antoine> laufer: catalogue is very important *now*
Carlos Laufer: catalogue is very important *now* ←
13:57:25 <antoine> ... if we use pagerank we move the problem to the catalogue of the search engine
... if we use pagerank we move the problem to the catalogue of the search engine ←
13:57:26 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to that. It is how we are behaving now, and we can't ignore that.
Hadley Beeman: +1 to that. It is how we are behaving now, and we can't ignore that. ←
13:57:36 <HadleyBeeman> But we should be artificially restricted to it, IMO.
Hadley Beeman: But we should be artificially restricted to it, IMO. ←
13:57:46 <HadleyBeeman> ack bart
Hadley Beeman: ack bart ←
13:58:20 <antoine> BartvanLeeuwen: I have a love/hate relationship with catalogues. now it's the only thing where you can find data
Bart van Leeuwen: I have a love/hate relationship with catalogues. now it's the only thing where you can find data ←
13:58:30 <antoine> ... it's still nightmare to find out how to use data
... it's still nightmare to find out how to use data ←
13:58:32 <markharrison> Please see https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#GS1:_GS1_Digital in relation to my comments about 'authority' and registries that point to which domain names are in a position to make definitive statements about a particular thing (e.g. a brand owner making definitive statements about its products)
Mark Harrison: Please see https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#GS1:_GS1_Digital in relation to my comments about 'authority' and registries that point to which domain names are in a position to make definitive statements about a particular thing (e.g. a brand owner making definitive statements about its products) ←
13:58:39 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, mark
Hadley Beeman: thanks, mark ←
13:58:47 <antoine> ... it would be great to have a mechanism to see who links to a dataset
... it would be great to have a mechanism to see who links to a dataset ←
13:58:52 <antoine> ... a sort of pingback for RDF
... a sort of pingback for RDF ←
13:59:01 <HadleyBeeman> @bart: a pagerank for datasets? Can we use the Data Usage vocabulary for that?
Hadley Beeman: @bart: a pagerank for datasets? Can we use the Data Usage vocabulary for that? ←
13:59:07 <PhilA> BartvanLeeuwen - That's the job of the Data Usage Vocab that BernadetteLoscio is working on...
Phil Archer: BartvanLeeuwen - That's the job of the Data Usage Vocab that BernadetteLoscio is working on... ←
13:59:26 <antoine> How about http://aksw.org/Projects/SemanticPingback.html?
How about http://aksw.org/Projects/SemanticPingback.html? ←
13:59:30 <BernadetteLoscio> :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: :) ←
14:00:05 <antoine> BartvanLeeuwen: relevance of data, access to reviews.
Bart van Leeuwen: relevance of data, access to reviews. ←
14:00:10 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
14:00:15 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks! ←
14:00:20 <cgueret> bye
Christophe Gueret: bye ←
14:00:20 <Ig_Bittencourt> Thanks
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Thanks ←
14:00:21 <Ig_Bittencourt> bye
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: bye ←
14:00:22 <jerdeb> thanks! bye
Jeremy Debattista: thanks! bye ←
14:00:22 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz
Zakim IRC Bot: -Eric_Kauz ←
14:00:24 <yaso> bye!
Yaso Córdova: bye! ←
14:00:25 <Zakim> -Ig_Bittencourt
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ig_Bittencourt ←
14:00:25 <BernadetteLoscio> have a nice weekend!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: have a nice weekend! ←
14:00:25 <laufer> bye
Carlos Laufer: bye ←
14:00:25 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> bye
Joao Almeida: bye ←
14:00:26 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias ←
14:00:28 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers ←
14:00:28 <BernadetteLoscio> tchau
Bernadette Farias Loscio: tchau ←
14:00:29 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
14:00:29 <Zakim> -markharrison
Zakim IRC Bot: -markharrison ←
14:00:30 <Zakim> -PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA ←
14:00:30 <Zakim> -cgueret
Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret ←
14:00:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> PhilA, you stay on for a bit ?
Bart van Leeuwen: PhilA, you stay on for a bit ? ←
14:00:31 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
14:00:32 <laufer> -laufer
Carlos Laufer: -laufer ←
14:00:32 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
rrsagent, please draft minutes ←
14:00:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/02-dwbp-minutes.html antoine
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/02-dwbp-minutes.html antoine ←
14:00:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> nope :)
Bart van Leeuwen: nope :) ←
14:00:36 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:00:37 <Zakim> -yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -yaso ←
14:00:41 <Zakim> -laufer
Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer ←
14:00:43 <PhilA> Oh, that looks interesting antoine - BernadetteLoscio pls note that link
Phil Archer: Oh, that looks interesting antoine - BernadetteLoscio pls note that link ←
14:01:05 <BartvanLeeuwen> also phila ?
Bart van Leeuwen: also phila ? ←
14:01:05 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
14:01:12 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
14:01:14 <BernadetteLoscio> this? http://aksw.org/Projects/SemanticPingback.html?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: this? http://aksw.org/Projects/SemanticPingback.html? ←
14:01:22 <PhilA> Yes BernadetteLoscio
Phil Archer: Yes BernadetteLoscio ←
14:01:28 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes! ←
14:02:14 <antoine> ok thx!
ok thx! ←
14:03:16 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
14:03:17 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended ←
14:03:17 <Zakim> Attendees were PhilA, HadleyBeeman, jerdeb, Ig_Bittencourt, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, antoine, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Ivan, +1.609.947.aaaa, BernadetteLoscio, cgueret, CarlosIglesias,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were PhilA, HadleyBeeman, jerdeb, Ig_Bittencourt, laufer, BartvanLeeuwen, antoine, JoaoPauloAlmeida, Ivan, +1.609.947.aaaa, BernadetteLoscio, cgueret, CarlosIglesias, ←
14:03:17 <Zakim> ... Makx_Dekkers, +44.122.333.aabb, markharrison, yaso, Eric_Kauz, giancarlo_guizzardi
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Makx_Dekkers, +44.122.333.aabb, markharrison, yaso, Eric_Kauz, giancarlo_guizzardi ←
14:05:56 <BartvanLeeuwen> PhilA, what is your skype handle ?
Bart van Leeuwen: PhilA, what is your skype handle ? ←
15:52:58 <PhilA> zakim, bye
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Phil Archer: zakim, bye ←
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