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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group

Minutes of 21 March 2014

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140321
Seen
Antoine Isaac, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Christophe Gueret, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Giancarlo Guizzardi, Hadley Beeman, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto, Ivan Herman, Joao Almeida, Phil Archer, Unknown mib_xle637, Yaso Córdova
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Christophe Gueret, Phil Archer
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

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12:34:29 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/03/21-dwbp-irc

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12:43:42 <laufer> +laufer

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Carlos Laufer: +laufer

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12:55:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

12:55:46 <laufer> +laufer

Carlos Laufer: +laufer

12:57:37 <laufer> hi all

Carlos Laufer: hi all

12:58:15 <PhilA> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

12:58:15 <Zakim> the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

12:58:21 <Ig_Bittencourt> Hi Laufer

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Hi Laufer

12:58:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

12:58:40 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller.a is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller.a is me

12:58:40 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it

12:58:41 <laufer> Hi Ig

Carlos Laufer: Hi Ig

12:58:53 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5

12:59:17 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, ??P5 is me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, ??P5 is me

12:59:17 <Zakim> +Ig_Bittencourt; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ig_Bittencourt; got it

12:59:39 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

12:59:43 <cgueret> zakim, ??P6 is me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P6 is me

12:59:43 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it

12:59:46 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me

12:59:46 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted

12:59:50 <cgueret> hop!

Christophe Gueret: hop!

12:59:58 <cgueret> hi everyone! :)

Christophe Gueret: hi everyone! :)

13:00:23 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, mute me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, mute me

13:00:23 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted

13:00:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

13:00:55 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is laufer

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is laufer

13:00:55 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

13:01:05 <laufer> Hi gueret

Carlos Laufer: Hi gueret

13:01:15 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, unmute me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, unmute me

13:01:15 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ig_Bittencourt should no longer be muted

13:01:17 <deirdrelee> zakim, IPcaller.a is me

Deirdre Lee: zakim, IPcaller.a is me

13:01:17 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it

13:01:26 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

13:01:38 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip

13:01:39 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made

13:01:40 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

13:01:51 <ivan> zakim, mute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me

13:01:51 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

13:02:06 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

13:02:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see laufer, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret (muted), deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see laufer, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret (muted), deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan (muted)

13:02:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Caroline_, cgueret, Ig_Bittencourt, deirdrelee, laufer, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, ivan, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Caroline_, cgueret, Ig_Bittencourt, deirdrelee, laufer, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, ivan, trackbot

13:02:08 <Zakim> + +1.609.557.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.557.aaaa

13:02:34 <Zakim> +ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan

13:02:45 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, mute me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, mute me

13:02:45 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted

13:03:34 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pick a victim

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pick a victim

13:03:34 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ivan (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ivan (muted)

13:03:56 <Zakim> +Caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline

13:03:59 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pick a victim

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pick a victim

13:03:59 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cgueret (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cgueret (muted)

13:04:06 <yaso> Zakim, Caroline is Yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline is Yaso

13:04:06 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it

13:04:12 <cgueret> ok

Christophe Gueret: ok

13:04:14 <laufer> mute me

Carlos Laufer: mute me

13:04:20 <cgueret> zakim, unmute me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, unmute me

13:04:20 <Zakim> cgueret should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should no longer be muted

13:04:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:04:30 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: ok

Hadley Beeman: ok [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:04:32 <PhilA> scribe: cgueret

(Scribe set to Christophe Gueret)

13:04:33 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: i am

Hadley Beeman: i am

13:04:41 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

zakim, mute me

13:04:41 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted

13:04:44 <PhilA> chair: HadleyBeeman
13:04:46 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is on the call?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the call?

13:04:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see laufer, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), cgueret (muted), deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan (muted), +1.609.557.aaaa, ericstephan, Yaso, [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see laufer, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), cgueret (muted), deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan (muted), +1.609.557.aaaa, ericstephan, Yaso, [IPcaller]

13:04:50 <laufer> sakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: sakim, unmute me

13:04:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

13:05:08 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller.a is me

Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller.a is me

13:05:08 <Zakim> +antoine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it

13:05:13 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:05:13 <Zakim> laufer was not muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was not muted, laufer

13:05:25 <PhilA> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140321
13:05:53 <yaso> Zakim, yaso has Caroline_

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has Caroline_

13:05:53 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_; got it

13:06:03 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-03-14

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-03-14

13:06:08 <cgueret> topic: last week meeting minutes

1. last week meeting minutes

13:06:16 <cgueret> PROPOSED accept last week minutes

PROPOSED accept last week minutes

13:06:19 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:06:22 <cgueret> +1

+1

13:06:23 <yaso> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

13:06:24 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:06:28 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

13:06:29 <Ig_Bittencourt> +1

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: +1

13:06:30 <Caroline_> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

13:06:30 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:06:40 <ericstephan> PhilA hopefully it is in a nice place :-)

Eric Stephan: PhilA hopefully it is in a nice place :-)

13:06:58 <ericstephan> nice :-)

Eric Stephan: nice :-)

13:07:10 <cgueret> topic: actions

2. actions

13:07:10 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open

13:07:21 <cgueret> action-2

ACTION-2

13:07:21 <trackbot> action-2 -- Deirdre Lee to Lee to work with bernadetteloscio to create skeleton of uc document -- due 2014-02-21 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-2 -- Deirdre Lee to Lee to work with bernadetteloscio to create skeleton of uc document -- due 2014-02-21 -- OPEN

13:07:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/2

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/2

13:07:55 <PhilA> zakim, aaaa is Eric_Kauz

Phil Archer: zakim, aaaa is Eric_Kauz

13:07:55 <Zakim> +Eric_Kauz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Eric_Kauz; got it

13:08:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a]

13:08:12 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:08:12 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:08:21 <cgueret> skeleton is \up

skeleton is \up

13:08:30 <cgueret> ...more progress expected on monday

...more progress expected on monday

13:08:34 <PhilA> zakim, who is noisy?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is noisy?

13:08:48 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (59%)

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (59%)

13:08:49 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

13:08:51 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:09:01 <cgueret> zakim, mute HadleyBeeman

zakim, mute HadleyBeeman

13:09:01 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman should now be muted

13:09:02 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute ipcaller.a

Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute ipcaller.a

13:09:02 <Zakim> [IPcaller.a] should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller.a] should now be muted

13:09:08 <cgueret> zakim, unmute HadleyBeeman

zakim, unmute HadleyBeeman

13:09:08 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman should no longer be muted

13:09:09 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, unmute me

Hadley Beeman: zakim, unmute me

13:09:09 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman was not muted, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman was not muted, HadleyBeeman

13:09:14 <cgueret> yep

yep

13:09:51 <cgueret> action-6

ACTION-6

13:09:51 <trackbot> action-6 -- Eric Stephan to Add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov to the use cases wiki -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-6 -- Eric Stephan to Add a use case for http://rfore.pnnl.gov to the use cases wiki -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

13:09:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/6

13:10:15 <cgueret> ericstephan: did add the initial use-case

Eric Stephan: did add the initial use-case

13:10:26 <cgueret> ... need to check it a bit more

... need to check it a bit more

13:10:37 <cgueret> action-8

ACTION-8

13:10:37 <trackbot> action-8 -- Yaso Córdova to Will create a scope for the modules -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-8 -- Yaso Córdova to Will create a scope for the modules -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

13:10:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/8

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/8

13:10:55 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

13:11:01 <cgueret> yaso: look forward to the f2f to discuss this

Yaso Córdova: look forward to the f2f to discuss this

13:11:08 <cgueret> ... we have to talk more about that

... we have to talk more about that

13:11:27 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: add a note to the action, shift due date

Hadley Beeman: add a note to the action, shift due date

13:11:30 <cgueret> action-9

ACTION-9

13:11:30 <trackbot> action-9 -- Makx Dekkers to Reflect his e-mail on scope in the use cases wiki -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-9 -- Makx Dekkers to Reflect his e-mail on scope in the use cases wiki -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

13:11:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/9

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/9

13:11:56 <cgueret> action-10

ACTION-10

13:11:56 <trackbot> action-10 -- Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez to Will explain why is importat to talk about acccess to data is on the web and why data preservation is out of the scope of this group -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-10 -- Manuel Tomas Carrasco Benitez to Will explain why is importat to talk about acccess to data is on the web and why data preservation is out of the scope of this group -- due 2014-02-28 -- OPEN

13:11:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/10

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/10

13:12:09 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:12:09 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

13:14:30 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

13:14:53 <PhilA> laufer: Maybe I can make a document talking about the API/URI issue

Carlos Laufer: Maybe I can make a document talking about the API/URI issue

13:15:11 <PhilA> ... I think we need to record these things in the wiki

... I think we need to record these things in the wiki

13:15:18 <PhilA> PhilA +1 to using the wiki

PhilA +1 to using the wiki

13:15:43 <PhilA> action: laufer to add page to wiki to summarise API discussion on the ,mailing list

ACTION: laufer to add page to wiki to summarise API discussion on the ,mailing list

13:15:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - Add page to wiki to summarise api discussion on the ,mailing list [on Carlos Laufer - due 2014-03-28].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-14 - Add page to wiki to summarise api discussion on the ,mailing list [on Carlos Laufer - due 2014-03-28].

13:15:54 <PhilA> action-12?

ACTION-12?

13:15:54 <trackbot> action-12 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to add a section of the notes page of the wiki to have topics (government, dbpedia, cultural heritage, etc.) -- due 2014-03-21 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-12 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to add a section of the notes page of the wiki to have topics (government, dbpedia, cultural heritage, etc.) -- due 2014-03-21 -- OPEN

13:15:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/12

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/12

13:16:17 <PhilA> zakim, who is muted?

zakim, who is muted?

13:16:17 <Zakim> I see Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret, Ivan, [IPcaller.a] muted

Zakim IRC Bot: I see Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret, Ivan, [IPcaller.a] muted

13:16:18 <BernadetteLoscio> 1 min

Bernadette Farias Loscio: 1 min

13:16:34 <PhilA> action-13?

ACTION-13?

13:16:34 <trackbot> action-13 -- Yaso Córdova to Add notes on the http://retratodaviolencia.org/ case into the use cases wiki -- due 2014-03-21 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-13 -- Yaso Córdova to Add notes on the http://retratodaviolencia.org/ case into the use cases wiki -- due 2014-03-21 -- OPEN

13:16:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/13

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/13

13:16:54 <PhilA> yaso: I've not completd this one. Because of time. Pending for next week

Yaso Córdova: I've not completd this one. Because of time. Pending for next week

13:17:14 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Yoiu think it still needs to be done?

Hadley Beeman: Yoiu think it still needs to be done?

13:17:16 <PhilA> yaso: Yes

Yaso Córdova: Yes

13:17:21 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: BernadetteLoscio?

Hadley Beeman: BernadetteLoscio?

13:17:34 <BernadetteLoscio> im sorry

Bernadette Farias Loscio: im sorry

13:17:44 <BernadetteLoscio> im having problems

Bernadette Farias Loscio: im having problems

13:17:49 <Ig_Bittencourt> I think she did the Use Case Notes: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Use_Case_Notes

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: I think she did the Use Case Notes: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Use_Case_Notes

13:17:54 <BernadetteLoscio> ill come bak with sound :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: ill come bak with sound :)

13:18:48 <PhilA> topic: Use cases with APIs

3. Use cases with APIs

13:19:06 <PhilA> yaso: This is what laufer was talking about and he has an action item to document this, so I think thaty's resolved

Yaso Córdova: This is what laufer was talking about and he has an action item to document this, so I think that's resolved

13:19:17 <PhilA> s/y's/'s/
13:19:39 <PhilA> yaso: Nice to work with laufer on this

Yaso Córdova: Nice to work with laufer on this

13:19:51 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Encourages use of the wiki

Hadley Beeman: Encourages use of the wiki

13:19:55 <PhilA> PhilA +1 to wiki

PhilA +1 to wiki

13:20:00 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

13:20:00 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

13:20:18 <PhilA> laufer: I can work with Yaso on a first draft ...

Carlos Laufer: I can work with Yaso on a first draft ...

13:20:27 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Don't think of the wiki as publishing

Hadley Beeman: Don't think of the wiki as publishing

13:20:29 <PhilA> laufer: OK

Carlos Laufer: OK

13:20:32 <PhilA> scribe: cgueret

(Scribe set to Christophe Gueret)

13:20:51 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: add yaso name on action-14

Hadley Beeman: add yaso name on ACTION-14

13:20:56 <BernadetteLoscio> lets try again?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: lets try again?

13:21:17 <cgueret> topic: update from steve on community engagement

4. update from steve on community engagement

13:21:38 <cgueret> PhilA: discussion with dbpedia people, now or later ?

Phil Archer: discussion with dbpedia people, now or later ?

13:21:43 <cgueret> ... can report quickly

... can report quickly

13:21:59 <cgueret> ... deirdrelee and PhilA in athens

... deirdrelee and PhilA in athens

13:22:24 <cgueret> ... lot of people here, among them soeren auer

... lot of people here, among them soeren auer

13:22:52 <cgueret> ... discussed about vocabs. He replied they used the dbo and there are good reasons for it

... discussed about vocabs. He replied they used the dbo and there are good reasons for it

13:23:14 <cgueret> ... hard to switch to something else. Can't tell more now (connection pb), later on f2f

... hard to switch to something else. Can't tell more now (connection pb), later on f2f

13:23:29 <cgueret> ... hard to see DBPedia as a use-case, more on that too during the f2f

... hard to see DBPedia as a use-case, more on that too during the f2f

13:23:49 <cgueret> ... discussion headline: DBpedia uses dbo and won't switch for good reasons

... discussion headline: DBpedia uses dbo and won't switch for good reasons

13:23:52 <BernadetteLoscio> lets try again?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: lets try again?

13:24:19 <cgueret> topic: use-cases document

5. use-cases document

13:24:24 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:24:29 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: how to we figure out what is useful ?

Hadley Beeman: how to we figure out what is useful ?

13:24:32 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:24:35 <HadleyBeeman> ack bern

Hadley Beeman: ack bern

13:24:35 <PhilA> zakim, who s muted?

Phil Archer: zakim, who s muted?

13:24:36 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, PhilA.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, PhilA.

13:24:42 <PhilA> zakim, who is muted?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is muted?

13:24:42 <Zakim> I see Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret, Ivan, [IPcaller.a] muted

Zakim IRC Bot: I see Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret, Ivan, [IPcaller.a] muted

13:24:45 <BernadetteLoscio> :(

Bernadette Farias Loscio: :(

13:24:55 <cgueret> zakim, who is speaking?

zakim, who is speaking?

13:24:57 <BernadetteLoscio> Zakim, unmute IPcallerA

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Zakim, unmute IPcallerA

13:24:57 <Zakim> [IPcaller.a] should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller.a] should no longer be muted

13:25:08 <Zakim> cgueret, listening for 12 seconds I could not identify any sounds

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret, listening for 12 seconds I could not identify any sounds

13:25:14 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:25:38 <cgueret> deirdrelee: incorporate some use-cases from the conferences who are in now in the wiki

Deirdre Lee: incorporate some use-cases from the conferences who are in now in the wiki

13:26:11 <cgueret> ... pbs around data quality, interop, ...

... pbs around data quality, interop, ...

13:26:22 <cgueret> ... lots of nice use-cases from the business point of view

... lots of nice use-cases from the business point of view

13:26:30 <cgueret> ... will try to convey that into the wiki

... will try to convey that into the wiki

13:26:56 <cgueret> ... getting more focused and moving from stories to specific challenges

... getting more focused and moving from stories to specific challenges

13:27:03 <cgueret> ... this is a nice progress

... this is a nice progress

13:27:29 <cgueret> ... BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee are main contributors so far, would like to see more entries from other group members

... BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee are main contributors so far, would like to see more entries from other group members

13:28:05 <cgueret> ... members can add content for external use-cases owners that can't edit the wiki

... members can add content for external use-cases owners that can't edit the wiki

13:28:17 <cgueret> ... e.g. extract use-cases from the webinars

... e.g. extract use-cases from the webinars

13:28:26 <cgueret> ... or talk to friends

... or talk to friends

13:28:37 <cgueret> ... more diverse sources will reduce bias risks

... more diverse sources will reduce bias risks

13:29:18 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: goal is to collect many uc to cover different tech and challenges, then derive deliverables from it, right ?

Hadley Beeman: goal is to collect many uc to cover different tech and challenges, then derive deliverables from it, right ?

13:29:25 <cgueret> deirdrelee: yes

Deirdre Lee: yes

13:29:32 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes!

13:29:36 <cgueret> ... 10 uc so far, can already see some patterns

... 10 uc so far, can already see some patterns

13:29:44 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

13:29:45 <cgueret> ... working on extracting challenges

... working on extracting challenges

13:30:05 <cgueret> ... propose as an action for myself to get a first version of this exctraction

... propose as an action for myself to get a first version of this exctraction

13:30:23 <cgueret> ... before the f2f

... before the f2f

13:30:23 <HadleyBeeman> q+ cgueret to discuss that ^

Hadley Beeman: q+ cgueret to discuss that ^

13:30:59 <HadleyBeeman> ack laufer

Hadley Beeman: ack laufer

13:31:05 <cgueret> action to BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee to prepare a first version of extraction

action to BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee to prepare a first version of extraction

13:31:05 <trackbot> Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

13:31:11 <cgueret> action BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee to prepare a first version of extraction

action BernadetteLoscio and deirdrelee to prepare a first version of extraction

13:31:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - And deirdrelee to prepare a first version of extraction [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-03-28].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-15 - And deirdrelee to prepare a first version of extraction [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-03-28].

13:31:49 <BernadetteLoscio> zalkim, unmute me

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zalkim, unmute me

13:31:55 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute me

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute me

13:31:55 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

13:32:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is on the call?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the call?

13:32:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see laufer, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), cgueret (muted), deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan (muted), Eric_Kauz, ericstephan, Yaso, BernadetteLoscio, antoine,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see laufer, PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt (muted), cgueret (muted), deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan (muted), Eric_Kauz, ericstephan, Yaso, BernadetteLoscio, antoine,

13:32:00 <cgueret> ? : difficult to work on too many ucs

? : difficult to work on too many ucs

13:32:03 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.a]

13:32:03 <Zakim> Yaso has Caroline_

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Caroline_

13:32:11 <cgueret> ... good to focus a bit more and summarise

... good to focus a bit more and summarise

13:32:37 <cgueret> deirdrelee: many uc are not much of an issue as they are used to gather specific challenges

Deirdre Lee: many uc are not much of an issue as they are used to gather specific challenges

13:32:59 <cgueret> ... we will have a look at them in particular

... we will have a look at them in particular

13:33:07 <cgueret> ... decide which ones are in/out scope

... decide which ones are in/out scope

13:33:22 <cgueret> ... having 100 uc would make sure we don't miss any challenge

... having 100 uc would make sure we don't miss any challenge

13:33:22 <HadleyBeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:33:38 <HadleyBeeman> ack bern

Hadley Beeman: ack bern

13:33:52 <Caroline_> Zakim, Yaso has Newton

Caroline Burle: Zakim, Yaso has Newton

13:33:52 <Zakim> +Newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Newton; got it

13:33:53 <cgueret> BernadetteLoscio: added notes on the doc

Bernadette Farias Loscio: added notes on the doc

13:33:56 <cgueret> zakim, ack me

zakim, ack me

13:33:56 <Zakim> unmuting cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: unmuting cgueret

13:33:57 <Zakim> cgueret, you wanted to discuss that ^

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret, you wanted to discuss that ^

13:33:57 <Zakim> I see ericstephan on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see ericstephan on the speaker queue

13:34:01 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

zakim, mute me

13:34:01 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted

13:34:12 <cgueret> ... challenges are the most important part

... challenges are the most important part

13:34:22 <cgueret> ... use them to identify where bp are necessary

... use them to identify where bp are necessary

13:34:35 <cgueret> ... can have some more content to decide on the implementation too

... can have some more content to decide on the implementation too

13:34:50 <cgueret> ... there could be several ways to implement bps

... there could be several ways to implement bps

13:34:57 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:35:04 <HadleyBeeman> q+ to discuss use case methodology

Hadley Beeman: q+ to discuss use case methodology

13:35:11 <cgueret> ... technologies may guide implementation

... technologies may guide implementation

13:35:23 <cgueret> ... but more important to have different type of use-cases

... but more important to have different type of use-cases

13:35:35 <cgueret> ... eventually with different maturity/tech/...

... eventually with different maturity/tech/...

13:35:40 <laufer> q-

Carlos Laufer: q-

13:35:52 <HadleyBeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

13:35:52 <ericstephan> https://www.force11.org/datacitation

Eric Stephan: https://www.force11.org/datacitation

13:36:08 <cgueret> ericstephan: efforts around data citation

Eric Stephan: efforts around data citation

13:36:19 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

13:36:35 <PhilA> q+ Ivan to talk about Force11

Phil Archer: q+ Ivan to talk about Force11

13:36:39 <ivan> zakim, unmute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, unmute me

13:36:39 <Zakim> Ivan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should no longer be muted

13:36:41 <cgueret> ... happy to help look through the uc and see how to relate it to force11 efforts

... happy to help look through the uc and see how to relate it to force11 efforts

13:37:14 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: we should have a place to keep links to external projects

Hadley Beeman: we should have a place to keep links to external projects

13:37:26 <cgueret> ... we discuss uc methodology a look

... we discuss uc methodology a look

13:37:39 <cgueret> ... encourage the editors to make the content as accessible as possible

... encourage the editors to make the content as accessible as possible

13:37:49 <cgueret> ... skeleton would be nice

... skeleton would be nice

13:37:57 <cgueret> ... will help the others help you

... will help the others help you

13:38:10 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:38:20 <ivan> ack HadleyBeeman

Ivan Herman: ack HadleyBeeman

13:38:20 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, you wanted to discuss use case methodology

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, you wanted to discuss use case methodology

13:38:28 <BernadetteLoscio> you mean an outline for the document?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: you mean an outline for the document?

13:38:33 <PhilA> ack ivan

Phil Archer: ack ivan

13:38:33 <Zakim> ivan, you wanted to talk about Force11

Zakim IRC Bot: ivan, you wanted to talk about Force11

13:38:50 <HadleyBeeman> yes, bernadette.  But an outline that we can then flesh out into the actual document.  (Wikis are great that way!)

Hadley Beeman: yes, bernadette. But an outline that we can then flesh out into the actual document. (Wikis are great that way!)

13:38:51 <ericstephan> Ivan, great!

Eric Stephan: Ivan, great!

13:38:51 <cgueret> ivan: in the board of director of force11

Ivan Herman: in the board of director of force11

13:39:03 <cgueret> ... meeting in a few weeks

... meeting in a few weeks

13:39:06 <cgueret> ... next week

... next week

13:39:11 <cgueret> ... PhilA will be there

... PhilA will be there

13:39:21 <BernadetteLoscio> i proposed an outline... is in the wiki

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i proposed an outline... is in the wiki

13:39:30 <cgueret> ... citations are now finalised, the group that was in charge is splitting

... citations are now finalised, the group that was in charge is splitting

13:39:32 <BernadetteLoscio> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Use_Cases_Document_Outline

Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Use_Cases_Document_Outline

13:39:49 <cgueret> ... one part is doing implementation

... one part is doing implementation

13:39:59 <BernadetteLoscio> based on the ideas of having lessons and requirements

Bernadette Farias Loscio: based on the ideas of having lessons and requirements

13:40:15 <cgueret> ... will be present at the rda meeting

... will be present at the rda meeting

13:40:18 <HadleyBeeman> That's fantastic, BernadetteLoscio! I hadn't seen that.

Hadley Beeman: That's fantastic, BernadetteLoscio! I hadn't seen that.

13:40:31 <cgueret> ... this impl group is being shaped now

... this impl group is being shaped now

13:40:35 <cgueret> ... 5 persons in it

... 5 persons in it

13:40:59 <PhilA> I will try and attend that BOF in Dublin next week

Phil Archer: I will try and attend that BOF in Dublin next week

13:41:03 <cgueret> ... 58 peoples signed up to contribute to the group

... 58 peoples signed up to contribute to the group

13:41:12 <ericstephan> Ivan, I've joined the implementation group, we are applying data preservation space to that.

Eric Stephan: Ivan, I've joined the implementation group, we are applying data preservation space to that.

13:41:17 <HadleyBeeman> BOF = birds of a feather.  An informal chat on a subject.

Hadley Beeman: BOF = birds of a feather. An informal chat on a subject.

13:41:20 <cgueret> ... ivan will discuss that further will PhilA

... ivan will discuss that further will PhilA

13:41:22 <HadleyBeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:41:34 <HadleyBeeman> ack bern

Hadley Beeman: ack bern

13:41:35 <PhilA> ack BernadetteLoscio

Phil Archer: ack BernadetteLoscio

13:41:38 <ivan> zakim, mute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me

13:41:38 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted

13:41:44 <cgueret> BernadetteLoscio: proposed outline for uc

Bernadette Farias Loscio: proposed outline for uc

13:42:00 <cgueret> ... take a lot at it

... take a look at it

13:42:10 <BernadetteLoscio> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Use_Cases_Document_Outline

Bernadette Farias Loscio: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases#Use_Cases_Document_Outline

13:42:12 <cgueret> s/lot/look
13:42:46 <HadleyBeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:42:47 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: thx, very useful

Hadley Beeman: thx, very useful

13:43:18 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: to summarise, uc editors still need more uc from the group

Hadley Beeman: to summarise, uc editors still need more uc from the group

13:43:23 <cgueret> BernadetteLoscio: yes

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes

13:43:30 <BernadetteLoscio> yes

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes

13:43:33 <cgueret> deirdrelee: yes

Deirdre Lee: yes

13:43:43 <BernadetteLoscio> ;)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: ;)

13:43:50 <cgueret> yep

yep

13:44:28 <cgueret> haaa

haaa

13:44:40 <cgueret> no, the "myself" was refering to the person that was speaking

no, the "myself" was refering to the person that was speaking

13:44:48 <cgueret> ;-)

;-)

13:44:55 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014#Face_to_Face_Agenda_-_London_-_March_31st_and_April_1st

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014#Face_to_Face_Agenda_-_London_-_March_31st_and_April_1st

13:45:02 <cgueret> topic: agenda for london

6. agenda for london

13:45:23 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:45:24 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: uc editors please ensure the agenda is good for your goals

Hadley Beeman: uc editors please ensure the agenda is good for your goals

13:45:52 <cgueret> laufer: we need slots for discussion

Carlos Laufer: we need slots for discussion

13:46:01 <cgueret> ... all the time is dedicated to work on documents

... all the time is dedicated to work on documents

13:46:09 <cgueret> ... need to discuss challenges too

... need to discuss challenges too

13:46:13 <PhilA> ack laufer

Phil Archer: ack laufer

13:46:43 <cgueret> ... data on the web is a model that we have to construct

... data on the web is a model that we have to construct

13:46:50 <cgueret> ... will need discussion

... will need discussion

13:46:53 <PhilA> Whilst I agree with the essence of what Laufer is saying, I believe it will come out of the use cases, no?

Phil Archer: Whilst I agree with the essence of what Laufer is saying, I believe it will come out of the use cases, no?

13:47:15 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: maybe just a difference in wording ?

Hadley Beeman: maybe just a difference in wording ?

13:47:24 <antoine> PhilA+ please don't have theoretical discussions not grounded on use cases :-)

Antoine Isaac: PhilA+ yes I agree please don't have theoretical discussions not grounded on use cases :-)

13:47:30 <cgueret> ... the group will reach its goals via discussions

... the group will reach its goals via discussions

13:47:44 <antoine> s/PhilA+/PhilA+ yes I agree
13:48:01 <cgueret> laufer: each of one of us has a model in his head about what is open data

Carlos Laufer: each of one of us has a model in his head about what is open data

13:48:05 <cgueret> ... we need to align them

... we need to align them

13:48:22 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: we need to think about data on the web as broader concept than open data

Hadley Beeman: we need to think about data on the web as broader concept than open data

13:49:16 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: at the end of the f2f will be nice to have a sharable uc document

Hadley Beeman: at the end of the f2f will be nice to have a sharable uc document

13:49:56 <cgueret> ... BernadetteLoscio, deirdrelee is it what you are working on ?

... BernadetteLoscio, deirdrelee is it what you are working on ?

13:49:58 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes!

13:50:04 <cgueret> deirdrelee: yes

Deirdre Lee: yes

13:50:36 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: we'll help the editors of the uc to fill/curate the document

Hadley Beeman: we'll help the editors of the uc to fill/curate the document

13:50:48 <cgueret> ... day 1 will close with a discussion about osm

... day 1 will close with a discussion about osm

13:51:13 <cgueret> ... then dinner

... then dinner

13:51:24 <cgueret> ... day 2 goal is to get content in the wiki

... day 2 goal is to get content in the wiki

13:51:34 <PhilA> q+ To introduce Brian Matthews, one of the guests, ericstephan will be pleased to meet him particularly

Phil Archer: q+ To introduce Brian Matthews, one of the guests, ericstephan will be pleased to meet him particularly

13:51:37 <cgueret> ... drafting on use-case document

... drafting on use-case document

13:51:53 <cgueret> ... start working on a doc for vocabularies, focus on skeletons first

... start working on a doc for vocabularies, focus on skeletons first

13:52:22 <cgueret> ... by the end of the day, have a idea what the document will look like

... by the end of the day, have a idea what the document will look like

13:52:33 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:52:33 <Zakim> PhilA, you wanted to introduce Brian Matthews, one of the guests, ericstephan will be pleased to meet him particularly

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, you wanted to introduce Brian Matthews, one of the guests, ericstephan will be pleased to meet him particularly

13:52:58 <cgueret> PhilA: one of the guest will come from the science and technology concil

Phil Archer: one of the guest will come from the science and technology concil

13:52:59 <HadleyBeeman> SFTC = Science and Technology Facilities Council

Hadley Beeman: SFTC = Science and Technology Facilities Council

13:53:17 <cgueret> ...expressed interest in having SFTC to join W3C

...expressed interest in having SFTC to join W3C

13:53:28 <cgueret> ?

?

13:53:44 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: other comments on the f2f ?

Hadley Beeman: other comments on the f2f ?

13:53:58 <laufer> hi giancarlo

Carlos Laufer: hi giancarlo

13:54:01 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ?

Joao Almeida: ?

13:54:01 <Giancarlo_Guizzardi> Sorry Laufer...that was obviously accidental

Giancarlo Guizzardi: Sorry Laufer...that was obviously accidental

13:54:04 <cgueret> Eric_Kauz: I'm from GS1

Eric Kauz: I'm from GS1

13:54:10 <cgueret> ... rwecently joined W3C

... rwecently joined W3C

13:54:18 <Giancarlo_Guizzardi> I pushed the wrong button on a tiny keyboard of the cellphone

Giancarlo Guizzardi: I pushed the wrong button on a tiny keyboard of the cellphone

13:54:23 <cgueret> ... embark on SW projects

... embark on SW projects

13:54:34 <Giancarlo_Guizzardi> Hi anyway :-)

Giancarlo Guizzardi: Hi anyway :-)

13:54:39 <cgueret> ... we're looking at representing our keys on the web

... we're looking at representing our keys on the web

13:54:51 <PhilA> s/Codea/Codes/

Phil Archer: s/Codea/Codes/ (warning: replacement failed)

13:55:04 <PhilA> Mark Harrison from GS1 will be there though

Phil Archer: Mark Harrison from GS1 will be there though

13:55:09 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: remote participation will be doable

Hadley Beeman: remote participation will be doable

13:55:21 <cgueret> ... Eric_Kauz and other invited to join on the phone

... Eric_Kauz and other invited to join on the phone

13:55:28 <Ig_Bittencourt> Thanks.

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Thanks.

13:55:30 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

13:55:32 <Zakim> -antoine

Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine

13:55:32 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: have a lovely WE

Hadley Beeman: have a lovely WE

13:55:32 <laufer> bye

Carlos Laufer: bye

13:55:32 <Ig_Bittencourt> bye

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: bye

13:55:33 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan

13:55:34 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks!

13:55:34 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

13:55:35 <cgueret> bye

bye

13:55:35 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

13:55:36 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

13:55:36 <Zakim> -Ig_Bittencourt

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ig_Bittencourt

13:55:38 <Zakim> -PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA

13:55:39 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee

13:55:40 <Zakim> -Eric_Kauz

Zakim IRC Bot: -Eric_Kauz

13:55:40 <Giancarlo_Guizzardi> -Giancarlo

Giancarlo Guizzardi: -Giancarlo

13:55:42 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a]

13:55:43 <laufer> -laufer

Carlos Laufer: -laufer

13:56:11 <HadleyBeeman> cgueret, you're okay to send an email round about the minutes?

Hadley Beeman: cgueret, you're okay to send an email round about the minutes?

13:56:15 <HadleyBeeman> Ah, guess phila will.

Hadley Beeman: Ah, guess phila will.

13:56:17 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks, both!

Hadley Beeman: Thanks, both!

13:56:23 <PhilA> Yep will do

Phil Archer: Yep will do

13:56:23 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

13:56:28 <cgueret> PhilA: thx

Phil Archer: thx

13:56:45 <Zakim> -cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret

13:56:47 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

13:56:47 <Zakim> Attendees were PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret, laufer, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan, +1.609.557.aaaa, ericstephan, antoine, Caroline_, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, Newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were PhilA, Ig_Bittencourt, cgueret, laufer, deirdrelee, HadleyBeeman, Ivan, +1.609.557.aaaa, ericstephan, antoine, Caroline_, Eric_Kauz, BernadetteLoscio, Newton

14:21:40 <mib_xle637> HI

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