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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group

Minutes of 25 February 2014

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Caroline Burle, Hadley Beeman, Phil Archer, Steven Adler, Yaso Córdova
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12:58:35 <PhilA> zakim, room for 5?

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12:58:37 <Zakim> ok, PhilA; conference Team_(dwbp)12:58Z scheduled with code 3927 (DWBP) for 60 minutes until 1358Z

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13:00:02 <yaso> Hi all!

Yaso Córdova: Hi all!

13:00:04 <Zakim> Team_(dwbp)12:58Z has now started

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13:00:05 <yaso> Dialing :-)

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13:00:07 <Zakim> + +1.516.944.aaaa

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13:00:10 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me

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13:00:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:00:34 <PhilA> zakim, aaaa is Steve

Phil Archer: zakim, aaaa is Steve

13:00:34 <Zakim> +Steve; got it

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13:00:41 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me

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13:00:41 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

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13:01:05 <Zakim> +caroline_

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13:01:24 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

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13:05:08 <PhilA> 1. relationship between Webinars and WG outputs;

Phil Archer: 1. relationship between Webinars and WG outputs;

13:05:08 <PhilA> 2. Jonathan's and Steve's reaction to my question on URIs;

Phil Archer: 2. Jonathan's and Steve's reaction to my question on URIs;

13:05:08 <PhilA> 3. possible hook up with Jeanne Holm's group which is moribund but remains a way to reach lots of people if we have the right message;

Phil Archer: 3. possible hook up with Jeanne Holm's group which is moribund but remains a way to reach lots of people if we have the right message;

13:05:08 <PhilA> 4. use of wiki;

Phil Archer: 4. use of wiki;

13:05:09 <PhilA> 5. recruiting scribes (no WG member should get away with not doing this);

Phil Archer: 5. recruiting scribes (no WG member should get away with not doing this);

13:05:09 <PhilA> 5. planning for London - realistic expectations for participation;

Phil Archer: 5. planning for London - realistic expectations for participation;

13:05:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Wanted to talk about deadlines, what can be moved and what can't.

Hadley Beeman: Wanted to talk about deadlines, what can be moved and what can't. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:06:13 <PhilA> ... I'd like to talk about the Twitter account and calendar but they're not so critical

Phil Archer: ... I'd like to talk about the Twitter account and calendar but they're not so critical

13:06:32 <PhilA> steve: I met the data officer for LA and Long Beach CIO

Steven Adler: I met the data officer for LA and Long Beach CIO [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:10:37 <PhilA> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases

Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Use_Cases

13:16:47 <PhilA> That's a very interesting observation

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Phil Archer: That's a very interesting observation

13:17:25 <PhilA> This industry is very immature and a lot of assumptions are being made that should nt be assumed

Phil Archer: This industry is very immature and a lot of assumptions are being made that should nt be assumed

13:18:00 <PhilA> adler1: I think it's necessary to have the Use Cases discussions on an ongoing basis, not just a short series

Steven Adler: I think it's necessary to have the Use Cases discussions on an ongoing basis, not just a short series [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:25:58 <PhilA> I like that idea...

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Phil Archer: I like that idea...

13:26:53 <PhilA> keep breathing Hadley...

Phil Archer: keep breathing Hadley...

13:32:17 <PhilA> That matches London (the City is tiny, London is big (until you compare it with Sao Paolo))

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Phil Archer: That matches London (the City is tiny, London is big (until you compare it with Sao Paolo))

13:41:44 <yaso> http://wbi.worldbank.org/wbi/event/open-government-action-brazils-state-rio-grande-do-sul-presents-innovations-fieldhttp://wbi.worldbank.org/wbi/event/open-government-action-brazils-state-rio-grande-do-sul-presents-innovations-field

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Yaso Córdova: http://wbi.worldbank.org/wbi/event/open-government-action-brazils-state-rio-grande-do-sul-presents-innovations-fieldhttp://wbi.worldbank.org/wbi/event/open-government-action-brazils-state-rio-grande-do-sul-presents-innovations-field

13:41:52 <yaso> http://www.mapa.rs.gov.br/

Yaso Córdova: http://www.mapa.rs.gov.br/

13:44:35 <HadleyBeeman> give me a sec

Hadley Beeman: give me a sec

13:44:38 <PhilA> Analysis and conclusions in London based on UCs

Phil Archer: Analysis and conclusions in London based on UCs

13:45:41 <PhilA> adler1: So the workstreams in London... should we have 3 separate teams? One per charter deliverable?

Steven Adler: So the workstreams in London... should we have 3 separate teams? One per charter deliverable? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:45:55 <PhilA> ... should we try and assign use cases to work streams

Phil Archer: ... should we try and assign use cases to work streams

13:46:19 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: One day of over arching picture of the ecosystem

Hadley Beeman: One day of over arching picture of the ecosystem [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:46:29 <PhilA> ... and day 2 in 3 worktreams?

Phil Archer: ... and day 2 in 3 worktreams?

13:47:10 <PhilA> General agreement

Phil Archer: General agreement

13:47:24 <PhilA> adler1: A way I was able to get IBM to support the event was by promising that we had some use case speakers => event catering and money

Steven Adler: A way I was able to get IBM to support the event was by promising that we had some use case speakers => event catering and money [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:47:47 <PhilA> ... want to invite some UC speakers in first morning with the questions/discussion

Phil Archer: ... want to invite some UC speakers in first morning with the questions/discussion

13:48:04 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: My conern is the number of hours. That's a quarter of our hours

Hadley Beeman: My conern is the number of hours. That's a quarter of our hours [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:48:13 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: is it possible to do those talks in the evening?

Hadley Beeman: is it possible to do those talks in the evening? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:48:36 <PhilA> adler1: I could bracket the meeting with them. One at start, one at end of day 1, one beginning day 2 maybe - leaving work days free

Steven Adler: I could bracket the meeting with them. One at start, one at end of day 1, one beginning day 2 maybe - leaving work days free [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:48:51 <PhilA> ... for some people early morning/late times might be more convenient

Phil Archer: ... for some people early morning/late times might be more convenient

13:49:20 <PhilA> yaso: I think 1 or 2 speakers can help us to direct the work

Yaso Córdova: I think 1 or 2 speakers can help us to direct the work [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:49:33 <PhilA> ... I think they'll help us

Phil Archer: ... I think they'll help us

13:50:19 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: They are long days, but they are very productive because you get to hash out stuff that people may have disagreed on

Hadley Beeman: They are long days, but they are very productive because you get to hash out stuff that people may have disagreed on [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:50:26 <PhilA> ... lays the groundwork for a lot of what follows

Phil Archer: ... lays the groundwork for a lot of what follows

13:50:32 <PhilA> ... it's hard work and does take concentrated tije

Phil Archer: ... it's hard work and does take concentrated time

13:50:38 <PhilA> s/tije/time/
13:51:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: WG meetings including evening socialising is also important

Hadley Beeman: WG meetings including evening socialising is also important [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:51:59 <PhilA> we should protect

Phil Archer: we should protect

13:53:22 <PhilA> adler1: We don't have an agenda as such. We need to sell it to the WG members yet - marketing operation

Steven Adler: We don't have an agenda as such. We need to sell it to the WG members yet - marketing operation [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:53:31 <PhilA> ... we have to put together a little package

Phil Archer: ... we have to put together a little package

13:54:05 <PhilA> PhilA: It's in 5 weeks' time...

Phil Archer: It's in 5 weeks' time... [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:54:13 <PhilA> yaso: We can make more use of twitter and LinkedIn

Yaso Córdova: We can make more use of twitter and LinkedIn [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

13:54:30 <PhilA> PhilA: Unhelpful nudge - WG meetings are for WG members

Phil Archer: Unhelpful nudge - WG meetings are for WG members [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:02:35 <PhilA> Discussion of poss guests, incl Paul Maltby (Cabinet Office), ?? from Open Street Map ?? from Sunderland

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Phil Archer: Discussion of poss guests, incl Paul Maltby (Cabinet Office), Brian Prangle from Open Street Map Brian Prangle from Sunderland

14:02:56 <HadleyBeeman> s/??/Brian Prangle
14:03:02 <HadleyBeeman> s/??/Dave Smith
14:03:27 <Zakim> -caroline_

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14:03:28 <Zakim> -Steve

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14:03:31 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

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14:03:32 <Zakim> -PhilA

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14:03:32 <Zakim> Team_(dwbp)12:58Z has ended

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14:03:35 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.516.944.aaaa, Steve, PhilA, caroline_, HadleyBeeman

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14:03:44 <PhilA> rrsagent, make minutes team

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14:04:08 <PhilA> rrsagent, generate minutes

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14:07:20 <PhilA> zakim, bye

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14:07:47 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

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