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12:59:03 <deirdrelee> zakim, ipcaller is me
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13:00:32 <yaso> Zakim, Yaso has Caroline
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13:01:00 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
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13:01:37 <Zakim> Yaso has Caroline
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13:02:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, Steve is adler1
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13:02:49 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?
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13:02:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PhilA, Vinh, Yaso, adler1, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, antoine, MTCarrasco
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13:02:51 <Zakim> Yaso has Caroline
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13:02:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see MTCarrasco, antoine, EricStephan, yaso, Caroline, adler1, deirdrelee, Vagner_Br, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, vinh, HadleyBeeman, sandro, trackbot
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13:04:12 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P11 is me
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13:04:16 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
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13:04:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PhilA, Vinh, Yaso, adler1, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, antoine, MTCarrasco, CarlosIglesias
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13:04:18 <Zakim> Yaso has Caroline
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13:04:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTCarrasco, antoine, EricStephan, yaso, Caroline, adler1, deirdrelee, Vagner_Br, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, vinh, HadleyBeeman,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTCarrasco, antoine, EricStephan, yaso, Caroline, adler1, deirdrelee, Vagner_Br, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, vinh, HadleyBeeman, ←
13:04:18 <Zakim> ... sandro, trackbot
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13:04:46 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
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13:05:07 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
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13:06:44 <antoine> Topic: last week's minutes
13:06:46 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-07
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13:07:03 <Zakim> +??P12
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13:07:04 <EricStephan> +1
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13:07:09 <PhilA> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes
PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes ←
13:07:14 <PhilA> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:07:15 <EricStephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
13:07:18 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
13:07:21 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:07:29 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
13:07:33 <Caroline> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
13:07:42 <vinh> +1
Vinh Nguyen: +1 ←
13:07:56 <Vagner_Br> +1
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13:08:04 <Ig_Bittencourt> zakim, p12 is Ig_Bittencourt
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13:08:16 <yaso> +1
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13:08:20 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?
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13:08:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see deirdrelee, PhilA, Vinh, Yaso, adler1, ericstephan, antoine, MTCarrasco, CarlosIglesias, HadleyBeeman, ??P12
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13:08:22 <Zakim> Yaso has Caroline
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13:08:22 <Zakim> On IRC I see Ig_Bittencourt, gatemezi, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTCarrasco, antoine, EricStephan, yaso, Caroline, adler1, deirdrelee, Vagner_Br, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, vinh,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Ig_Bittencourt, gatemezi, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTCarrasco, antoine, EricStephan, yaso, Caroline, adler1, deirdrelee, Vagner_Br, RRSAgent, Zakim, PhilA, vinh, ←
13:08:22 <Zakim> ... HadleyBeeman, sandro, trackbot
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13:08:25 <PhilA> zakim, ??p12 is Ig_Bittencourt
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13:08:38 <antoine> RESOLVED: to accept last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-07
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13:08:39 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:08:44 <CarlosIglesias> +1
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13:08:46 <PhilA> scribe: antoine
(Scribe set to Antoine Isaac)
13:08:54 <PhilA> scribeNick: antoine
13:09:46 <antoine> Topic: Webinar
13:10:01 <antoine> Steve: it went well
Steven Adler: it went well ←
13:10:16 <antoine> ... Jonathan presented Palo Alto
... Jonathan presented Palo Alto ←
13:11:16 <antoine> ... very tech-savvy, but the city doesn't have a lot of resources
... very tech-savvy, but the city doesn't have a lot of resources ←
13:11:31 <antoine> ... they are continuely asked to show the value of open data
... they are continuely asked to show the value of open data ←
13:12:23 <gatemezi> See http://data.cityofpaloalto.org/
Ghislain Atemezing: See http://data.cityofpaloalto.org/ ←
13:12:32 <antoine> ... example of a map of the trees
... example of a map of the trees ←
13:12:34 <MTCarrasco> Palo Alto = Big Stick - liberal semantic translation :-)
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Palo Alto = Big Stick - liberal semantic translation :-) ←
13:13:06 <antoine> ... with GIS data. Open data tags for every tree.
... with GIS data. Open data tags for every tree. ←
13:13:22 <antoine> ... he didn't know what URIs were (!)
... he didn't know what URIs are (!) ←
13:13:28 <antoine> s/were/are
13:13:56 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
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13:14:00 <antoine> ... it's an opportunity to widen the scope of the usual dataset-focused approach
... it's an opportunity to widen the scope of the usual dataset-focused approach ←
13:14:23 <antoine> ... it's also about describing physical elements
... it's also about describing physical elements ←
13:14:24 <MakxDekkers> hi, apologies, had connection problem
Makx Dekkers: hi, apologies, had connection problem ←
13:14:40 <antoine> ... It's the opportunity for us
... It's the opportunity for us ←
13:14:51 <antoine> ... between open data and the internet of things.
... between open data and the internet of things. ←
13:15:27 <antoine> ... It's important to notice that many people including CIOs don't know what W3C is doing
... It's important to notice that many people including CIOs don't know what W3C is doing ←
13:15:27 <Zakim> +??P14
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13:15:33 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P14 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P14 is me ←
13:15:33 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
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13:15:41 <antoine> ... We had really good questions at the end.
... We had really good questions at the end. ←
13:15:52 <antoine> ... we can go back to his staff
... we can go back to his staff ←
13:16:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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13:16:03 <antoine> ... Jonathan said they could help
... Jonathan said they could help ←
13:16:06 <antoine> q+
q+ ←
13:16:21 <HadleyBeeman> ack antoine
Hadley Beeman: ack antoine ←
13:16:22 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
13:16:36 <PhilA> antoine: On the idea of the presenters... really good. Sorry I had to leave
Antoine Isaac: On the idea of the presenters... really good. Sorry I had to leave ←
13:16:42 <PhilA> ... can they join the WG?
... can they join the WG? ←
13:16:44 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
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13:16:44 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
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13:16:58 <antoine> ... Steve: I don't think it's the role they're looking for.
Antoine Isaac: ... Steve: I don't think it's the role they're looking for. ←
13:17:02 <PhilA> adler1: I don't think that's the role he's looking for. He can be an outside adviser
Steven Adler: I don't think that's the role he's looking for. He can be an outside adviser ←
13:17:06 <PhilA> scribe: antoine
(Scribe set to Antoine Isaac)
13:17:12 <antoine> ... we could involve them from times to times.
... we could involve them from times to times. ←
13:17:21 <EricStephan> +q
Eric Stephan: +q ←
13:17:29 <antoine> Hadley: it would be great to have their feedback on drafts
Hadley Beeman: it would be great to have their feedback on drafts ←
13:17:36 <HadleyBeeman> ack eric
Hadley Beeman: ack eric ←
13:17:44 <EricStephan> open311.org
Eric Stephan: open311.org ←
13:17:57 <antoine> Eric: Open311 concept was good.
Eric Stephan: Open311 concept was good. ←
13:18:11 <antoine> ... people can actively engage the data
... people can actively engage the data ←
13:18:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine ←
13:18:38 <antoine> Steve: in the US we have a number of 911-style numbers
Steven Adler: in the US we have a number of 911-style numbers ←
13:18:57 <EricStephan> http://open311.org
Eric Stephan: http://open311.org ←
13:19:08 <antoine> ... in NYC 311 is for any administrative issues.
... in NYC 311 is for any administrative issues. ←
13:19:16 <antoine> ... education, health, etc.
... education, health, etc. ←
13:19:39 <EricStephan> http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/services/paloalto311/default.asp
Eric Stephan: http://www.cityofpaloalto.org/services/paloalto311/default.asp ←
13:20:15 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
13:20:17 <antoine> Hadley: Open311 par of city initiatives?
Hadley Beeman: Open311 part of city initiatives? ←
13:20:23 <antoine> s/par/part
13:20:44 <antoine> Steve: there are many efforts going on. Code4America, etc.
Steven Adler: there are many efforts going on. Code4America, etc. ←
13:21:03 <PhilA> 311 is interesting - matches some ideas in the EU to make services interoperable cross border
Phil Archer: 311 is interesting - matches some ideas in the EU to make services interoperable cross border ←
13:21:04 <antoine> ... in the US it's evolving around civic engagement around cities
... in the US it's evolving around civic engagement around cities ←
13:21:09 <antoine> ... citizen are engaged.
... citizen are engaged. ←
13:21:25 <antoine> Hadley: great! I wish there was more of this in the UK.
Hadley Beeman: great! I wish there was more of this in the UK. ←
13:21:38 <antoine> Steve: I also noted things on data quality
Steven Adler: I also noted things on data quality ←
13:21:56 <BernadetteLoscio> in Recife we have a service similar to 311
Bernadette Farias Loscio: in Recife we have a service similar to 311 ←
13:21:57 <antoine> ... Questions like : is your city looking at what other cities are doing?
... Questions like : is your city looking at what other cities are doing? ←
13:22:09 <antoine> ... are you consuming the data of your neighbours?
... are you consuming the data of your neighbours? ←
13:22:13 <antoine> ... and their services?
... and their services? ←
13:22:16 <BernadetteLoscio> and the data is gonna be available
Bernadette Farias Loscio: and the data is gonna be available ←
13:22:18 <antoine> ... He said no.
... He said no. ←
13:22:31 <BernadetteLoscio> the data is already available
Bernadette Farias Loscio: the data is already available ←
13:22:36 <antoine> ... no standards. But he said he could be useful.
... no standards. But he said he could be useful. ←
13:22:39 <BernadetteLoscio> in open format
Bernadette Farias Loscio: in open format ←
13:23:16 <antoine> ... The capability to comapre across service doesn't exist yet.
... The capability to comapre across service doesn't exist yet. ←
13:23:35 <antoine> Hadley and steve: no de fact standard
Hadley and steve: no de facto standard ←
13:23:43 <HadleyBeeman> s/fact/facto
13:23:47 <PhilA> No standard for data comparison? I beg to differ...
Phil Archer: No standard for data comparison? I beg to differ... ←
13:23:54 <antoine> Steve: Jonathan said they had some process to review data
Steven Adler: Jonathan said they had some process to review data ←
13:24:01 <HadleyBeeman> q+ philA
Hadley Beeman: q+ philA ←
13:24:13 <BernadetteLoscio> @antoine, the lack of standards is a problem in all contexts of data integration
Bernadette Farias Loscio: @antoine, the lack of standards is a problem in all contexts of data integration ←
13:24:14 <antoine> ... but no certification-like thing.
... but no certification-like thing. ←
13:24:38 <antoine> ... We also discussed, where the city is getting the data from.
... We also discussed, where the city is getting the data from. ←
13:24:41 <antoine> ... sensors, etc.
... sensors, etc. ←
13:24:49 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:24:54 <antoine> ... also the origin of data they're not passing one.
... also the origin of data they're not passing on. ←
13:24:57 <antoine> s/one/on
13:25:20 <antoine> PhilA: Interesting: disconnection with what the group is
Phil Archer: Interesting: disconnection with what the group is ←
13:25:29 <BernadetteLoscio> i am trying to call you on skype but it doesnt work :(
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i am trying to call you on skype but it doesnt work :( ←
13:25:33 <MTCarrasco> EU data https://open-data.europa.eu/en/data
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: EU data https://open-data.europa.eu/en/data ←
13:25:34 <antoine> ... a great chance to shape what we want to do.
... a great chance to shape what we want to do. ←
13:26:00 <antoine> ... it's hard to phrase it in a way that doesn't sound wrong
... it's hard to phrase it in a way that doesn't sound wrong ←
13:26:13 <antoine> ... they are srrounded by an environement of technical brilliance
... they are srrounded by an environement of technical brilliance ←
13:26:26 <antoine> ... they do nice visualizations
... they do nice visualizations ←
13:26:38 <antoine> ... it's always tabular data
... it's always tabular data ←
13:27:14 <antoine> ... There is no way to link the different resources
... There is no way to link the different resources ←
13:27:22 <BernadetteLoscio> it says that the code (3927#) is not valid
Bernadette Farias Loscio: it says that the code (3927#) is not valid ←
13:27:30 <antoine> ... e.g. links between types of trees and potholes (?)
... e.g. links between types of trees and potholes (?) ←
13:27:32 <EricStephan> Cities are driven largely by relatively small budgets by this, because of their transparency they have to show immediate value to the public. I think this is what Jonathon is working through.
Eric Stephan: Cities are driven largely by relatively small budgets by this, because of their transparency they have to show immediate value to the public. I think this is what Jonathon is working through. ←
13:28:05 <antoine> ... This morning I had meetings with other people
... This morning I had meetings with other people ←
13:28:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:28:19 <antoine> ... [???]
... [???] ←
13:28:35 <antoine> ... improving the efficiency of councils
... improving the efficiency of councils ←
13:28:42 <antoine> ... Also with EU institutions
... Also with EU institutions ←
13:28:46 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks @gatemezi
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks @gatemezi ←
13:28:54 <antoine> ... talking about common policy for URIs/Identifiers
... talking about common policy for URIs/Identifiers ←
13:29:06 <Zakim> -Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vinh ←
13:29:11 <antoine> ... We must not talk down to Jonathan
... We must not talk down to Jonathan ←
13:29:13 <BernadetteLoscio> Zakim, [IPcaller] is me
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Zakim, [IPcaller] is me ←
13:29:13 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
13:29:24 <antoine> ... convincing them that they can get even more benefits
... convincing them that they can get even more benefits ←
13:29:34 <antoine> ... we have to find a way to show what these benefits can be
... we have to find a way to show what these benefits can be ←
13:29:44 <antoine> Steve: I don't think we should worry too much
Steven Adler: I don't think we should worry too much ←
13:30:17 <antoine> ... cities like Palo Alto are very "just try it"-oriented
... cities like Palo Alto are very "just try it"-oriented ←
13:30:38 <antoine> ... I'm sure they could adopt what we recommend
... I'm sure they could adopt what we recommend ←
13:30:52 <antoine> ... they would be ready to test what we're working on
... they would be ready to test what we're working on ←
13:30:59 <Zakim> +Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vinh ←
13:31:17 <antoine> PhilA: they've gone money, it's good
Phil Archer: they've got some money, it's good ←
13:31:31 <antoine> ... we shoudl also establish connection with the group working on CSVs on the Web
... we shoudl also establish connection with the group working on CSVs on the Web ←
13:31:45 <antoine> s/gone/got some
13:32:11 <antoine> PhilA: relation with South America?
Phil Archer: relation with South America? ←
13:32:22 <antoine> Yaso (?): we're aligned
Yaso (?): we're aligned ←
13:32:29 <antoine> ... it seems complicated to put data on the web
... it seems complicated to put data on the web ←
13:32:38 <EricStephan> I can look into putting a Palo Alto CSV use case in the CSV Use Case wiki
Eric Stephan: I can look into putting a Palo Alto CSV use case in the CSV Use Case wiki ←
13:32:38 <antoine> ... we need guides
... we need guides ←
13:32:51 <PhilA> that would be great EricStephan
Phil Archer: that would be great EricStephan ←
13:32:53 <antoine> Steve: I chose P.A. because it's a small city
Steven Adler: I chose P.A. because it's a small city ←
13:33:09 <antoine> ... their portal is from ??? who are from Latin America
... their portal is from Junar who are from Latin America ←
13:33:16 <adler1> Junar
Steven Adler: Junar ←
13:33:25 <antoine> Yaso: we use CKAN because it's open source
Yaso Córdova: we use CKAN because it's open source ←
13:33:25 <gatemezi> s/???/Junar
13:33:39 <PhilA> http://www.junar.com/
Phil Archer: http://www.junar.com/ ←
13:33:44 <antoine> ... but the support is not great
... but the support is not great ←
13:33:49 <adler1> Junar is a small provider of open data catalogs and portals
Steven Adler: Junar is a small provider of open data catalogs and portals ←
13:33:52 <BernadetteLoscio> Costa Rica also uses Junar
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Costa Rica also uses Junar ←
13:33:55 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:34:21 <antoine> Yaso: Porto Rica is changing to CKAN?
Yaso Córdova: Costa Rica is changing to CKAN? ←
13:34:22 <Caroline> q+
Caroline Burle: q+ ←
13:34:24 <MTCarrasco> Yeah, tagging all the trees in the Amazon is on a different scale :-)
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Yeah, tagging all the trees in the Amazon is on a different scale :-) ←
13:34:31 <antoine> ???: yes they are planning.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes they are planning. ←
13:34:40 <yaso> MTCarrasco for sure! :-)
Yaso Córdova: MTCarrasco for sure! :-) ←
13:34:42 <HadleyBeeman> ack Caroline
Hadley Beeman: ack Caroline ←
13:34:52 <PhilA> s/???/Bernadette/
13:34:53 <adler1> many cities and states are moving from Junar and Socrata to CKAN
Steven Adler: many cities and states are moving from Junar and Socrata to CKAN ←
13:35:15 <antoine> ... in planning still. Many difficulties in implementing CKAN.
... in planning still. Many difficulties in implementing CKAN. ←
13:35:16 <adler1> Data.Gov, for example, moved from Socrata to CKAN in the past months
Steven Adler: Data.Gov, for example, moved from Socrata to CKAN in the past months ←
13:35:19 <CarlosIglesias> s/Porto/Costa
13:35:33 <PhilA> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:35:54 <antoine> Hadley: we need people ot understand the beginning of publishing OD
Hadley Beeman: we need people ot understand the beginning of publishing OD ←
13:36:22 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:36:24 <antoine> ... I'm looking at out charter, which mentions existing relevant documents/efforts, like OKFN
... I'm looking at out charter, which mentions existing relevant documents/efforts, like OKFN ←
13:36:28 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:36:45 <antoine> PhilA: yes we should link to existing info, not replicate
Phil Archer: yes we should link to existing info, not replicate ←
13:36:56 <antoine> ... if it's hosted in a stable way.
... if it's hosted in a stable way. ←
13:37:08 <antoine> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
13:37:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine ←
13:37:19 <antoine> ... we need to check with them
... we need to check with them ←
13:37:28 <antoine> ... for example OKFN
... for example OKFN ←
13:37:33 <adler1> my notes from the call: 1. We can explore the use of URI's for Open Data elements and physical things in a city that have multiple data elements 2. Cities are not yet tagging their data with metadata to allow comparability 3. There are not yet mechanisms to allow citizens to improve data completeness 4. Cities have internal processes for assuring data quality including sign-offs from IT and public officials but these activities are not recorded in metada[CUT]
Steven Adler: my notes from the call: 1. We can explore the use of URI's for Open Data elements and physical things in a city that have multiple data elements 2. Cities are not yet tagging their data with metadata to allow comparability 3. There are not yet mechanisms to allow citizens to improve data completeness 4. Cities have internal processes for assuring data quality including sign-offs from IT and public officials but these activities are not recorded in metada[CUT] ←
13:37:37 <antoine> ... coming to Junar/CKAN/etc
... coming to Junar/CKAN/etc ←
13:38:01 <antoine> ... they get you far, but not all the way
... they get you far, but not all the way ←
13:38:07 <adler1> 5. Cities are not tracing origin and lineage 6. tuples would be a good way to identify relationships between things and data elements that could allow machine comparability of data sets in an internet of things that open data describes
Steven Adler: 5. Cities are not tracing origin and lineage 6. tuples would be a good way to identify relationships between things and data elements that could allow machine comparability of data sets in an internet of things that open data describes ←
13:38:08 <antoine> ... we need to educate about that
... we need to educate about that ←
13:38:11 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:38:34 <antoine> ... we need to start on this, capture the use cases
... we need to start on this, capture the use cases ←
13:38:49 <HadleyBeeman> ack deirdre
Hadley Beeman: ack deirdre ←
13:38:52 <antoine> ... we must set the skleteon of the UC doc
... we must set the skleteon of the UC doc ←
13:38:53 <antoine> Topic: Use Cases document
13:39:04 <antoine> Deirdre: yes, this link into the UC doc
Deirdre Lee: yes, this links into the UC doc ←
13:39:08 <antoine> s/link/links
13:39:28 <antoine> ... Bernadette and I will arrange discussion
... Bernadette and I will arrange discussion ←
13:39:37 <antoine> ... Makx sent ideas
... Makx sent ideas ←
13:39:45 <EricStephan> PhilA - I don't see Chris Metcalf on CSV working group
Eric Stephan: PhilA - I don't see Chris Metcalf on CSV working group ←
13:39:51 <BernadetteLoscio> great @deirdre!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: great @deirdre! ←
13:40:03 <antoine> ... we need different caegories
... we need different categories ←
13:40:07 <PhilA> Ok thanks EricStephan. I hope Socrata will be joining it soon
Phil Archer: Ok thanks EricStephan. I hope Socrata will be joining it soon ←
13:40:21 <antoine> s/caegories/categories
13:40:39 <antoine> ... from stories to opportunities/challenges to best practices
... from stories to opportunities/challenges to best practices ←
13:41:00 <antoine> ... The time is now to populate ideas for UCs
... The time is now to populate ideas for UCs ←
13:41:21 <antoine> ... select 3 or 4, extract challenges and transforming them into challenges
... select 3 or 4, extract challenges and transforming them into challenges ←
13:41:32 <antoine> ... present exemples of implementation
... present exemples of implementation ←
13:42:15 <antoine> Steve: we should document these UCs and discuss in London
Steven Adler: we should document these UCs and discuss in London ←
13:42:25 <antoine> ... what's in common and what is different
... what's in common and what is different ←
13:42:31 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is talking?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:42:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is making noise?
Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is making noise? ←
13:42:38 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, mute me
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, mute me ←
13:42:38 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted ←
13:42:42 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (2%), adler1 (25%), Ig_Bittencourt (15%), gatemezi (30%)
Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: HadleyBeeman (2%), adler1 (25%), Ig_Bittencourt (15%), gatemezi (30%) ←
13:42:55 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (86%), PhilA (13%), Yaso (12%), HadleyBeeman (9%), gatemezi (34%), BernadetteLoscio (5%)
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (86%), PhilA (13%), Yaso (12%), HadleyBeeman (9%), gatemezi (34%), BernadetteLoscio (5%) ←
13:42:57 <BernadetteLoscio> yes @antoine, i suggest to create a kind of template to describe the use cases
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes @antoine, i suggest to create a kind of template to describe the use cases ←
13:43:04 <BernadetteLoscio> Zakim, mute me
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Zakim, mute me ←
13:43:04 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted ←
13:43:08 <antoine> ... the F2F is 6 weeks ago, the timing is good.
... the F2F is 6 weeks ahead, the timing is good. ←
13:43:08 <PhilA> q+ to ask how many of these everyone recognises? ORG, DCAT, QB, PROV, URI, CSV
Phil Archer: q+ to ask how many of these everyone recognises? ORG, DCAT, QB, PROV, URI, CSV ←
13:43:12 <antoine> s/ago/ahead
13:43:42 <HadleyBeeman> ack phil
Hadley Beeman: ack phil ←
13:43:42 <Zakim> PhilA, you wanted to ask how many of these everyone recognises? ORG, DCAT, QB, PROV, URI, CSV
Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, you wanted to ask how many of these everyone recognises? ORG, DCAT, QB, PROV, URI, CSV ←
13:44:16 <antoine> PhilA: it worries me that we assume that everybody (in the WG) has some knowledge
Phil Archer: it worries me that we assume that everybody (in the WG) has some knowledge ←
13:44:35 <antoine> ... on some topics, e.g. the acronyms (ORG, DCAT, QB, PROV, URI, CSV)
... on some topics, e.g. the acronyms (ORG, DCAT, QB, PROV, URI, CSV) ←
13:44:55 <antoine> ... If we don't know, who knows?
... If we don't know, who knows? ←
13:44:56 <EricStephan> I don't think it is safe to assume.
Eric Stephan: I don't think it is safe to assume. ←
13:45:04 <EricStephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
13:45:18 <Ig_Bittencourt> Yes, I recognise.
Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Yes, I recognise. ←
13:45:23 <antoine> Hadley: good that you're bringing it on the table.
Hadley Beeman: good that you're bringing it on the table. ←
13:45:26 <PhilA> ack EricStephan
Phil Archer: ack EricStephan ←
13:45:32 <antoine> Eric: I'm familiar with most
Eric Stephan: I'm familiar with all of those ←
13:45:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I'm familiar, but it's a good point that it's not safe to assume
Joao Almeida: I'm familiar, but it's a good point that it's not safe to assume ←
13:45:43 <PhilA> s/most/all of those/
13:45:51 <MTCarrasco> What about a primer?
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: What about a primer? ←
13:45:57 <antoine> ... but I wouldn't assume everyone knows
... but I wouldn't assume everyone knows ←
13:45:58 <BernadetteLoscio> me too, I am familiar with most
Bernadette Farias Loscio: me too, I am familiar with most ←
13:46:03 <antoine> ... perhaps we could make a wiki page
... perhaps we could make a wiki page ←
13:46:19 <MTCarrasco> A primer page
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: A primer page ←
13:46:22 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:46:24 <antoine> ... as a WG
... as a WG ←
13:46:26 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-glossary/
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-glossary/ ←
13:46:35 <EricStephan> That is extremely helpful
Eric Stephan: That is extremely helpful ←
13:46:40 <antoine> Hadley: made my the GLD WG
Hadley Beeman: made my the GLD WG ←
13:46:52 <antoine> ... could be useful for the Linked Data side of things
... could be useful for the Linked Data side of things ←
13:47:01 <antoine> ... doesn't mention how to publish data
... doesn't mention how to publish data ←
13:47:07 <antoine> ... but it's one possibility
... but it's one possibility ←
13:47:20 <antoine> ... Eric if you want to start this, it would be wonderful
... Eric if you want to start this, it would be wonderful ←
13:47:21 <yaso> I'm familiar with these too, but I think this group only exists because most people are not :,(
Yaso Córdova: I'm familiar with these too, but I think this group only exists because most people are not :,( ←
13:47:22 <PhilA> action: EricStephan to begin a wiki page of background reading for WG members
ACTION: EricStephan to begin a wiki page of background reading for WG members ←
13:47:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Begin a wiki page of background reading for wg members [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-02-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-1 - Begin a wiki page of background reading for wg members [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-02-21]. ←
13:47:26 <antoine> Eric: OK
Eric Stephan: OK ←
13:47:58 <antoine> Steve: how many of you were familiar with the type of open data challenges Jonathan mentioned?
Steven Adler: how many of you were familiar with the type of open data challenges Jonathan mentioned? ←
13:48:11 <EricStephan> Not from the city perspective, same silos of information on the science side.
Eric Stephan: Not from the city perspective, same silos of information on the science side. ←
13:48:14 <antoine> Yaso: I was familiar
Yaso Córdova: I was familiar ←
13:48:16 <BernadetteLoscio> i am familiar with those problems of open data
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i am familiar with those problems of open data ←
13:48:20 <antoine> ... but I think many are not.
... but I think many are not. ←
13:49:09 <antoine> PhilA: the CSV group is trying to bridge the gap between the world of tabular data and more semantic approaches
Phil Archer: the CSV group is trying to bridge the gap between the world of tabular data and more semantic approaches ←
13:49:14 <MTCarrasco> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Alamos_Primer
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Alamos_Primer ←
13:49:21 <PhilA> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
13:49:36 <antoine> Steve: how should we document the policy implications of the tech documented in standard?
Steven Adler: how should we document the policy implications of the tech documented in standard? ←
13:49:55 <antoine> Hadley : the GLD WG ran into trouble with personal data
Hadley : the GLD WG ran into trouble with personal data ←
13:50:08 <antoine> Steve: we have a tendency to focus on the tech aspects
Steven Adler: we have a tendency to focus on the tech aspects ←
13:50:19 <antoine> ... the group has a W3C filter on what he said
... the group has a W3C filter on what he said ←
13:50:33 <antoine> ... maybe we didn't get what Jonathan really said
... maybe we didn't get what Jonathan really said ←
13:50:48 <antoine> q+ on role of different orgs
q+ on role of different orgs ←
13:51:01 <EricStephan> I agree we need to take off our "W3C glasses" and see the data as Joanathon does from the end user perspective.
Eric Stephan: I agree we need to take off our "W3C glasses" and see the data as Joanathon does from the end user perspective. ←
13:51:10 <antoine> ... he was fascinated by the fact that his city could control its environment by tagging
... he was fascinated by the fact that his city could control its environment by tagging ←
13:51:20 <antoine> ... not the URIs
... not the URIs ←
13:51:31 <gatemezi> +1 to Steve point. It is not easy to remove our "tech glasses"
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to Steve point. It is not easy to remove our "tech glasses" ←
13:51:38 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:51:44 <EricStephan> Personalizing technology...great point
Eric Stephan: Personalizing technology...great point ←
13:51:52 <antoine> ... Jonathan has a different perspective
... Jonathan has a different perspective ←
13:52:01 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
13:52:05 <antoine> ... he's more into interacting with policy people
... he's more into interacting with policy people ←
13:52:19 <antoine> ... I'm nto sure how to bridge the gap
... I'm not sure how to bridge the gap ←
13:52:26 <antoine> s/nto/not
13:52:47 <antoine> ... some IBM colleagues also interpreted the call according to their products
... some IBM colleagues also interpreted the call according to their products ←
13:52:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is on the queue?
Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is on the queue? ←
13:52:57 <Zakim> I see MTCarrasco, antoine, PhilA, deirdrelee on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see MTCarrasco, antoine, PhilA, deirdrelee on the speaker queue ←
13:53:14 <antoine> Hadley: when writing the use case, we should think of who the user is: end user, app developer
Hadley Beeman: when writing the use case, we should think of who the user is: end user, app developer ←
13:53:21 <PhilA> ack MTCarrasco
Phil Archer: ack MTCarrasco ←
13:53:21 <EricStephan> In science some people are more production oriented, and others like Jonathon are more consumer oriented. Jonathon really understood his user community...
Eric Stephan: In science some people are more production oriented, and others like Jonathon are more consumer oriented. Jonathon really understood his user community... ←
13:53:23 <HadleyBeeman> ack mt
Hadley Beeman: ack mt ←
13:53:38 <antoine> MTCarrasco: people working with tech for quite a while
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: people working with tech for quite a while ←
13:53:49 <antoine> ... even them don't really comprehend what is a URI
... even them don't really comprehend what is a URI ←
13:54:02 <PhilA> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:54:07 <antoine> ... we need not write about it in extenso
... we need not write about it in extenso ←
13:54:20 <antoine> ... rather make a list of abbreviation and documentation
... rather make a list of abbreviation and documentation ←
13:54:44 <antoine> ... it's hard to participate meaningfully in a group like this one
... it's hard to participate meaningfully in a group like this one ←
13:55:02 <antoine> ... the example of trees: how do different people use the data?
... the example of trees: how do different people use the data? ←
13:55:47 <antoine> ... In our case we have to focus on the data, not how people intend to use.
... In our case we have to focus on the data, not how people intend to use. ←
13:56:00 <antoine> Hadley: usage is generic
Hadley Beeman: usage is generic ←
13:56:07 <PhilA> ack next
Phil Archer: ack next ←
13:56:08 <Zakim> antoine, you wanted to comment on role of different orgs
Zakim IRC Bot: antoine, you wanted to comment on role of different orgs ←
13:56:14 <adler1> we could identify the key roles involved and describe how the standards and best practices will/could be used by them
Steven Adler: we could identify the key roles involved and describe how the standards and best practices will/could be used by them ←
13:57:42 <HadleyBeeman> ack antoine
Hadley Beeman: ack antoine ←
13:57:46 <HadleyBeeman> ack deirdre
Hadley Beeman: ack deirdre ←
13:57:54 <antoine> Antoine: we're a technical group. It's good to relate to business case, but we shouldn't focus on business alone, like OKFN for example.
Antoine Isaac: we're a technical group. It's good to relate to business case, but we shouldn't focus on business alone, like OKFN for example. ←
13:58:25 <antoine> Deirdre: getting blind looks while explaining linked data
Deirdre Lee: getting blind looks while explaining linked data ←
13:58:38 <antoine> ... the UC doc should explain for example why to use URIs
... the UC doc should explain for example why to use URIs ←
13:58:39 <BernadetteLoscio> i agree with deirdre
Bernadette Farias Loscio: i agree with deirdre ←
13:58:51 <antoine> ... what are the challenges that could be answered by URIs
... what are the challenges that could be answered by URIs ←
13:58:51 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:58:54 <PhilA> +1 to deirdrelee
Phil Archer: +1 to deirdrelee ←
13:58:55 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> q+
Joao Almeida: q+ ←
13:59:04 <MTCarrasco> A wiki primer page with links to the appropriate sources. In addition to the basic items such as abbreviations, one needs to fully comprehend concepts such as URI and content negotiation.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: A wiki primer page with links to the appropriate sources. In addition to the basic items such as abbreviations, one needs to fully comprehend concepts such as URI and content negotiation. ←
13:59:05 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:59:06 <antoine> ... and then the BP document could make the recommendations
... and then the BP document could make the recommendations ←
13:59:20 <antoine> ... The UC could address the specific gaps/challenges
... The UC could address the specific gaps/challenges ←
13:59:27 <antoine> Hadley: I agree
Hadley Beeman: I agree ←
13:59:32 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, unmute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, unmute me ←
13:59:32 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should no longer be muted ←
13:59:35 <PhilA> Note to all - we use the +1 idea to signal approval/agreement - easier than typing 'I agree' :-)
Phil Archer: Note to all - we use the +1 idea to signal approval/agreement - easier than typing 'I agree' :-) ←
13:59:38 <antoine> I also think this would address my comment!
I also think this would address my comment! ←
13:59:40 <HadleyBeeman> ack joao
Hadley Beeman: ack joao ←
13:59:51 <adler1> q+
Steven Adler: q+ ←
13:59:58 <antoine> JoaoPauloAlmeida: I don't understand what we try to do
Joao Almeida: I don't understand what we try to do ←
14:00:07 <gatemezi> +1 to PhilA Note ..;-)
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to PhilA Note ..;-) ←
14:00:12 <antoine> ... with use case normally it's about what users want to do
... with use cases normally it's about what users want to do ←
14:00:19 <antoine> s/use case/use cases
14:00:44 <antoine> Deirdre: the UC is about looking at the challenges in UCs from many domains
Deirdre Lee: the UC is about looking at the challenges in UCs from many domains ←
14:00:53 <antoine> ... what can't be address with existing approaches
... what can't be address with existing approaches ←
14:00:59 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
14:01:03 <antoine> ... generalizing different stories
... generalizing different stories ←
14:01:03 <BernadetteLoscio> it is to describe experiences
Bernadette Farias Loscio: it is to describe experiences ←
14:01:03 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Challenges for Data on the Web
Joao Almeida: Challenges for Data on the Web ←
14:01:11 <BernadetteLoscio> the main challenges
Bernadette Farias Loscio: the main challenges ←
14:01:21 <PhilA> I wish I could have articulated it that well in the charter, deirdrelee
Phil Archer: I wish I could have articulated it that well in the charter, deirdrelee ←
14:01:23 <HadleyBeeman> ack adler
Hadley Beeman: ack adler ←
14:01:35 <antoine> Steve: by doing these UCs on an ongoing basis
Steven Adler: by doing these UCs on an ongoing basis ←
14:01:36 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> perhaps it would be better to frame it in this way: Challenges for Data on the Web
Joao Almeida: perhaps it would be better to frame it in this way: Challenges for Data on the Web ←
14:01:43 <antoine> ... we will learn what we don't know
... we will learn what we don't know ←
14:02:10 <antoine> ... I hope that by doing many of these over time in the end we'll be able to recognize known things in new cases.
... I hope that by doing many of these over time in the end we'll be able to recognize known things in new cases. ←
14:02:21 <antoine> ... The next case/webinar is NYC
... The next case/webinar is NYC ←
14:02:26 <antoine> ... complete different scale
... complete different scale ←
14:02:32 <antoine> ... chosen on purpose
... chosen on purpose ←
14:02:36 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me ←
14:02:36 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted ←
14:02:47 <PhilA> Really sorry I'm going to miss the NYC webinar
Phil Archer: Really sorry I'm going to miss the NYC webinar ←
14:02:53 <antoine> ... If you have friends who work on cases, it would be fantastic!
... If you have friends who work on cases, it would be fantastic! ←
14:03:16 <antoine> Hadley: Deirdre, could you put a skeleton for UC doc for next week?
Hadley Beeman: Deirdre, could you put a skeleton for UC doc for next week? ←
14:03:21 <PhilA> action: deirdrelee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document
ACTION: deirdrelee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document ←
14:03:21 <trackbot> Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>. ←
14:03:22 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes! ←
14:03:34 <PhilA> action: Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document
ACTION: Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document ←
14:03:34 <trackbot> 'Lee' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., dlee8, klee5).
Trackbot IRC Bot: 'Lee' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., dlee8, klee5). ←
14:03:46 <PhilA> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-14
Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-14 ←
14:03:49 <antoine> Hadley: bye!
Hadley Beeman: bye! ←
14:03:59 <yaso> \o/
Yaso Córdova: \o/ ←
14:04:00 <MTCarrasco> The trees in Palo Alto are resources identified by URIs. Users will use how they want, this is not necessarily how the providers intend.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The trees in Palo Alto are resources identified by URIs. Users will use how they want, this is not necessarily how the providers intend. ←
14:04:01 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> :-)
Joao Almeida: :-) ←
14:04:02 <adler1> ciao
Steven Adler: ciao ←
14:04:02 <BernadetteLoscio> thank you!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thank you! ←
14:04:06 <MTCarrasco> bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye ←
14:04:06 <Zakim> -Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vinh ←
14:04:12 <antoine> PhilA: the minutes look good!
Phil Archer: the minutes look good! ←
14:04:14 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco ←
14:04:14 <BernadetteLoscio> tchau!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: tchau! ←
14:04:14 <PhilA> action: Deirdre Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document
ACTION: Deirdre Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document ←
14:04:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Lee to work with bernadetteloscio to create skeleton of uc document [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-02-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-2 - Lee to work with bernadetteloscio to create skeleton of uc document [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-02-21]. ←
14:04:16 <Zakim> -gatemezi
Zakim IRC Bot: -gatemezi ←
14:04:18 <Zakim> -adler1
Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1 ←
14:04:21 <Zakim> -ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←
14:04:22 <Zakim> -PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA ←
14:04:22 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
14:04:23 <Zakim> -Yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso ←
14:04:25 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
14:04:25 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias ←
14:04:45 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee ←
14:06:04 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:06:29 <antoine> zakim, please list attendees
zakim, please list attendees ←
14:06:29 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been deirdrelee, PhilA, Vinh, HadleyBeeman, Caroline, ericstephan, antoine, MTCarrasco, adler1, CarlosIglesias, Ig_Bittencourt, Makx_Dekkers,
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been deirdrelee, PhilA, Vinh, HadleyBeeman, Caroline, ericstephan, antoine, MTCarrasco, adler1, CarlosIglesias, Ig_Bittencourt, Makx_Dekkers, ←
14:06:33 <Zakim> ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, BernadetteLoscio ←
14:06:57 <antoine> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
14:06:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine ←
14:16:29 <Zakim> Attendees were deirdrelee, PhilA, Vinh, HadleyBeeman, Caroline, ericstephan, antoine, MTCarrasco, adler1, CarlosIglesias, Ig_Bittencourt, Makx_Dekkers, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi,
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Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were deirdrelee, PhilA, Vinh, HadleyBeeman, Caroline, ericstephan, antoine, MTCarrasco, adler1, CarlosIglesias, Ig_Bittencourt, Makx_Dekkers, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi, ←
14:16:30 <Zakim> ... BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: ... BernadetteLoscio ←
14:16:59 <antoine> zakim, bye
zakim, bye ←
14:17:03 <antoine> RRSagent, bye
RRSagent, bye ←
14:17:17 <antoine> RRSAgent, please make minutes public
RRSAgent, please make minutes public ←
14:17:17 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes public', antoine. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'please make minutes public', antoine. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
14:18:15 <antoine> RRSAgent, please publish minutes
RRSAgent, please publish minutes ←
14:18:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-minutes.html antoine ←
14:19:21 <antoine> rrsagent, make log public
rrsagent, make log public ←
14:19:43 <antoine> RRSAgent, bye
RRSAgent, bye ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-actions.rdf : ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: EricStephan to begin a wiki page of background reading for WG members [1]
ACTION: EricStephan to begin a wiki page of background reading for WG members [1] ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T13-47-22
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T13-47-22 ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: deirdrelee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document [2]
ACTION: deirdrelee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document [2] ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T14-03-21
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T14-03-21 ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document [3]
ACTION: Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document [3] ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T14-03-34
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T14-03-34 ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Deirdre Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document [4]
ACTION: Deirdre Lee to work with BernadetteLoscio to create skeleton of UC document [4] ←
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T14-04-14-2
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-dwbp-irc#T14-04-14-2 ←
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