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18:05:20 <tzviya> present+ Tzviya_Siegman
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18:05:31 <tzviya> present+ Deborah_Kaplan
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18:05:40 <tzviya> present+ George_Kerscher
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18:05:58 <tzviya> present+ Charles_Lapierre
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18:07:38 <tzviya> zakim, this is DPUB a11y
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18:07:38 <Zakim> got it, tzviya
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18:07:46 <clapierre> scribe clapierre
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18:07:58 <tzviya> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-accessibility/
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18:08:28 <clapierre> deborah, a bunch of changes made, from Nov 6
Charles LaPierre: deborah, a bunch of changes made, from Nov 6 ←
18:09:07 <clapierre> …, I did some word smithing of introduction, please everyone read this section over.
Charles LaPierre: …, I did some word smithing of introduction, please everyone read this section over. ←
18:09:31 <clapierre> …, we decided page # - mia will do some work.
Charles LaPierre: …, we decided page # - mia will do some work. ←
18:10:02 <clapierre> …, tzviya she should talk to Dave C. and coordinate with CSS
Charles LaPierre: …, tzviya she should talk to Dave C. and coordinate with CSS ←
18:12:12 <clapierre> …, next is drop caps which I was to take on. What do we think needs to happen.. no action we just want others to be aware. Otherwise we should do xyz. so I rephrased this section. the css is supported. (I used the website "canIUse" didn't test with a screen reader.
Charles LaPierre: …, next is drop caps which I was to take on. What do we think needs to happen.. no action we just want others to be aware. Otherwise we should do xyz. so I rephrased this section. the css is supported. (I used the website "canIUse" didn't test with a screen reader. ←
18:12:34 <clapierre> …, notes was next which I haven't wordsmithed but looks complete to look at ARIA
Charles LaPierre: …, notes was next which I haven't wordsmithed but looks complete to look at ARIA ←
18:13:03 <clapierre> …, positional location of text.. Mia to work on. More work is needed and all use cases may not be handled by css.
Charles LaPierre: …, positional location of text.. Mia to work on. More work is needed and all use cases may not be handled by css. ←
18:13:33 <clapierre> …, phonetic spelling is messy: what do we really want to see. I don't think we assinged that to anyone.
Charles LaPierre: …, phonetic spelling is messy: what do we really want to see. I don't think we assinged that to anyone. ←
18:13:47 <clapierre> Tzviya: I think we were alright with the wording..so no work needed.
Tzviya Siegman: I think we were alright with the wording..so no work needed. [ Scribe Assist by Charles LaPierre ] ←
18:14:07 <clapierre> Deborah, deeply nested heading levels. I think we were ok with what it said.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, deeply nested heading levels. I think we were ok with what it said. ←
18:14:10 <clapierre> Tzviya: yes
Tzviya Siegman: yes [ Scribe Assist by Charles LaPierre ] ←
18:16:33 <clapierre> Deborah, list-heads I rephrased. Either we need to say aria-labeledby to be exposed to others than AT or we need something that aria-labelby does but is not ARIA… There is a problem we don't have this feature. I have turned on VO in order to skip past a long table.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, list-heads I rephrased. Either we need to say aria-labeledby to be exposed to others than AT or we need something that aria-labelby does but is not ARIA… There is a problem we don't have this feature. I have turned on VO in order to skip past a long table. ←
18:17:52 <clapierre> Tzviya, labelled by over rides the symantics
Charles LaPierre: Tzviya, labelled by over rides the symantics ←
18:18:14 <clapierre> …, hard to change HTML now.
Charles LaPierre: …, hard to change HTML now. ←
18:18:43 <clapierre> George, should we be saying what not to do? ie. don't mark this as a structural heading.
Charles LaPierre: George, should we be saying what not to do? ie. don't mark this as a structural heading. ←
18:18:52 <clapierre> Tzviya, no sometimes you need it.
Charles LaPierre: Tzviya, no sometimes you need it. ←
18:19:16 <clapierre> Deborah, semantically list heads we are so close but we don't have it.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, semantically list heads we are so close but we don't have it. ←
18:19:44 <clapierre> …, skipability, SR have it, but needed for sighted users, we think looks good.
Charles LaPierre: …, skipability, SR have it, but needed for sighted users, we think looks good. ←
18:20:06 <clapierre> …, escapability, could be merged but that looks ok..keep separate
Charles LaPierre: …, escapability, could be merged but that looks ok..keep separate ←
18:20:36 <clapierre> …, essesments moved to appendix.
Charles LaPierre: …, essesments moved to appendix. ←
18:20:46 <clapierre> …, charles to look into with Mark H.
Charles LaPierre: …, charles to look into with Mark H. ←
18:22:44 <clapierre> charles, Mark is busy now but will have some time to soon to look at this and work on it with Charles.
Charles LaPierre: charles, Mark is busy now but will have some time to soon to look at this and work on it with Charles. ←
18:23:32 <clapierre> Tzviya, diagrammar looks pretty good and George/charles can complete so no need to wait on Mark.
Charles LaPierre: Tzviya, diagrammar looks pretty good and George/charles can complete so no need to wait on Mark. ←
18:24:02 <clapierre> George, This note is very important in relation to the 508 refresh.
Charles LaPierre: George, This note is very important in relation to the 508 refresh. ←
18:24:19 <clapierre> Deborah, what is the current status is? I heard it was delayed again.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, what is the current status is? I heard it was delayed again. ←
18:24:59 <clapierre> George, I have been asked to come to a meeting in Jan. and I am under NDA, but low vision issues are a concern.
Charles LaPierre: George, I have been asked to come to a meeting in Jan. and I am under NDA, but low vision issues are a concern. ←
18:25:50 <clapierre> Deborah, I am a Dragon Speaks AT , not anything with LowVision.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, I am a Dragon Speaks AT , not anything with LowVision. ←
18:26:29 <clapierre> …, Charles will touch base with Mark on the assessments which will be on an appendix
Charles LaPierre: …, Charles will touch base with Mark on the assessments which will be on an appendix ←
18:26:52 <clapierre> …, I moved Diagrammar to the appendix.
Charles LaPierre: …, I moved Diagrammar to the appendix. ←
18:27:13 <clapierre> George, do I need to add any words to it?
Charles LaPierre: George, do I need to add any words to it? ←
18:27:23 <clapierre> Deborah, Charles did this already but you can see.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, Charles did this already but you can see. ←
18:27:59 <clapierre> George, if diagrammer is only used for images then others will say why don't use longdesc.. so we need to make it clear it doesn't apply just to images
Charles LaPierre: George, if diagrammer is only used for images then others will say why don't use longdesc.. so we need to make it clear it doesn't apply just to images ←
18:28:35 <clapierre> Deborah, what we want to W3C to know about Diagrammer
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, what we want to W3C to know about Diagrammer ←
18:28:45 <clapierre> George, you can put me down to take that on.
Charles LaPierre: George, you can put me down to take that on. ←
18:29:27 <clapierre> Deborah, layouts on comprehension… Just needs word smithing.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, layouts on comprehension… Just needs word smithing. ←
18:30:57 <clapierre> Tzviya, outreach work (not sure what about)
Charles LaPierre: … Tzviya WAI Ed & Outreachwork (not sure what about) ←
18:31:23 <clapierre> Mia, looking at page #s layout text
Charles LaPierre: …, Mialooking at page #s layout text ←
18:32:51 <clapierre> Deborah, we only have 2 more meetings this year.
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, we only have 2 more meetings this year. ←
18:33:57 <clapierre> George, 21 dec there is a Steering call, then there is the 508 Refresh which we should have this note complete.
Charles LaPierre: George, 21 dec there is a Steering call, then there is the 508 Refresh which we should have this note complete. ←
18:36:01 <clapierre> Deborah, we could get Ivan to look at this and ignore the sections in progress so we could try to get this in a semi stable state by the time George goes to the 508 refresh meeting in Jan…
Charles LaPierre: Deborah, we could get Ivan to look at this and ignore the sections in progress so we could try to get this in a semi stable state by the time George goes to the 508 refresh meeting in Jan… ←
18:36:34 <clapierre> … but Ivan may not want us to tell anyone about this.
Charles LaPierre: … but Ivan may not want us to tell anyone about this. ←
18:36:48 <clapierre> … We need to defer to Ivan.
Charles LaPierre: … We need to defer to Ivan. ←
18:38:32 <clapierre> George, we are preparing to get it out as a draft but feeling optimistic.
Charles LaPierre: George, we are preparing to get it out as a draft but feeling optimistic. ←
18:41:55 <clapierre> s/Mia, /…, Mia
18:42:41 <clapierre> s/Tzviya, outreach /… Tzviya WAI Ed & Outreach
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