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Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 02 November 2015

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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Oct/0078.html
Present
Deborah Kaplan, Tzviya Siegman, Dave Cramer, Paul Belfanti, Paul Belfanti, Markus Gylling, Charles LaPierre, Unknown Tim_Cole, Unknown Peter, Peter Krautzberger
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Markus Gylling
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15:09:14 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/11/02-dpub-irc

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15:10:11 <tzviya> topic is TPAC 2015 Summary

Tzviya Siegman: topic is TPAC 2015 Summary

15:13:31 <tzviya> topic: TPAC 2015 Summary

1. TPAC 2015 Summary

15:30:47 <tzviya> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Oct/0078.html
15:31:19 <tzviya> topic: TPAC 2015 Results and Next Steps

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2. TPAC 2015 Results and Next Steps

15:59:31 <dkaplan3> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

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Deborah Kaplan: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

15:59:51 <dkaplan3> the one I posted was from one of the Ivan emails

Deborah Kaplan: the one I posted was from one of the Ivan emails

15:59:59 <mgylling> ah, thanks

Markus Gylling: ah, thanks

16:00:10 <mgylling> the one I pasted was for the anno group… ;)

Markus Gylling: the one I pasted was for the anno group… ;)

16:00:16 <dkaplan3> although nobody else is there :)

Deborah Kaplan: although nobody else is there :)

16:00:21 <dkaplan3> present+ Deborah_Kaplan

Deborah Kaplan: present+ Deborah_Kaplan

16:00:54 <tzviya> present+ tzviya_siegman

Tzviya Siegman: present+ tzviya_siegman

16:01:36 <clapierre> is there something wrong with Web Ex?

Charles LaPierre: is there something wrong with Web Ex?

16:01:49 <Bill_Kasdorf> Have the call-in instructions changed? I can't get in via WebEx.

Bill Kasdorf: Have the call-in instructions changed? I can't get in via WebEx.

16:01:59 <tzviya> yes, new webex

Tzviya Siegman: yes, new webex

16:02:11 <tzviya> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c99abd2f8cea21e3e3c33c9c2626eec

Tzviya Siegman: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c99abd2f8cea21e3e3c33c9c2626eec

16:02:20 <mgylling> mgylling has changed the topic to: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

Markus Gylling: mgylling has changed the topic to: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

16:02:28 <dauwhe> Present+ Dave_Cramer

Dave Cramer: Present+ Dave_Cramer

16:02:32 <tzviya> sorry, not that!

Tzviya Siegman: sorry, not that!

16:02:40 <mgylling> Use this URL https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

Markus Gylling: Use this URL https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

16:02:42 <tzviya> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

Tzviya Siegman: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

16:03:08 <mgylling> Wrong URL in agenda, use this URL: : https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

Markus Gylling: Wrong URL in agenda, use this URL: : https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

16:03:16 <pbelfanti> Present+ Paul Belfanti

Paul Belfanti: Present+ Paul Belfanti

16:03:56 <mgylling> Present+ Markus_Gylling

Markus Gylling: Present+ Markus_Gylling

16:04:02 <clapierre> Present+ Charles_LaPierre

Charles LaPierre: Present+ Charles_LaPierre

16:04:27 <TimCole> Present+ Tim_Cole

Timothy Cole: Present+ Tim_Cole

16:05:04 <mgylling> trackbot, start telecon

Markus Gylling: trackbot, start telecon

16:05:06 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public

16:05:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be dpub

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be dpub

16:05:09 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

16:05:09 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
16:05:09 <trackbot> Date: 02 November 2015
16:05:19 <pkra> PRESENT+ Peter Krautzberger

Peter Krautzberger: PRESENT+ Peter Krautzberger

16:05:28 <mgylling> zakim, who is here?

Markus Gylling: zakim, who is here?

16:05:28 <Zakim> Present: Deborah_Kaplan, tzviya_siegman, Dave_Cramer, Paul, Belfanti, Markus_Gylling, Charles_LaPierre, Tim_Cole, Peter, Krautzberger

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16:05:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see pbelfanti, TimCole, dauwhe, Bill_Kasdorf, clapierre, dkaplan3, mgylling, tzviya, Zakim, RRSAgent, pkra, liam, JakeA, fantasai, hober, nikos, leaverou, bigbluehat,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see pbelfanti, TimCole, dauwhe, Bill_Kasdorf, clapierre, dkaplan3, mgylling, tzviya, Zakim, RRSAgent, pkra, liam, JakeA, fantasai, hober, nikos, leaverou, bigbluehat,

16:05:31 <Zakim> ... plinss, astearns, iank, Bert, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... plinss, astearns, iank, Bert, trackbot

16:05:43 <pkra> yes

Peter Krautzberger: yes

16:05:59 <Bill_Kasdorf> I'm getting the link to the Annotation WG WebEx

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: I'm getting the link to the Annotation WG WebEx

16:06:48 <mgylling> Use this URL https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

Markus Gylling: Use this URL https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

16:07:36 <mgylling> scribenick: mgylling

(Scribe set to Markus Gylling)

16:07:48 <mgylling> Tzviya: we had a number of regrets, many people are still travelling

Tzviya Siegman: we had a number of regrets, many people are still travelling

16:08:08 <mgylling> … ivan posted minutes and I posted summaries, we are not going to go through those

… ivan posted minutes and I posted summaries, we are not going to go through those

16:08:25 <pbelfanti> I keep getting stalled at "Starting Webex" screen

Paul Belfanti: I keep getting stalled at "Starting Webex" screen

16:08:42 <mgylling> …  I thought what we would do today, is to go over some of the highlights

… I thought what we would do today, is to go over some of the highlights

16:09:06 <mgylling> pbelfanti, when using this URL? https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

pbelfanti, when using this URL? https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m5f8774653cc62880afbc6123f0abe260

16:09:18 <Bill_Kasdorf> +present Bill_Kasdorf

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: +present Bill_Kasdorf

16:09:24 <mgylling> … next TPAC will be in Portugal

… next TPAC will be in Portugal

16:09:39 <Bill_Kasdorf> Present+ Bill_Kasdorf

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: Present+ Bill_Kasdorf

16:10:02 <mgylling> … some of the big things that came out of this, there was a lot of discussion about PWP, and discussion about EPUB as well

… some of the big things that came out of this, there was a lot of discussion about PWP, and discussion about EPUB as well

16:10:14 <pbelfanti> yes, on Safari, but just got in via Chrome (usually it's the opposite)

Paul Belfanti: yes, on Safari, but just got in via Chrome (usually it's the opposite)

16:10:32 <mgylling> … some questions about the interoperable core of EPUB right now, how can we design identifiers before we know about the manifest

… some questions about the interoperable core of EPUB right now, how can we design identifiers before we know about the manifest

16:10:50 <mgylling> mgylling: what manifest?

Markus Gylling: what manifest?

16:11:29 <mgylling> tzviya: we talked a lot about not including an explicit manifest both in EPUB and in PWP, but we dont know what will be in the package and how they can be identified

Tzviya Siegman: we talked a lot about not including an explicit manifest both in EPUB and in PWP, but we dont know what will be in the package and how they can be identified

16:11:58 <mgylling> … fragment identifiers will need to wait until we know what the package

… fragment identifiers will need to wait until we know what the package

16:12:48 <Bert> Present+

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Unknown Bert: Present+

16:12:50 <mgylling> pbelfanti: what is the downside of the manifest, why eliminate?

Paul Belfanti: what is the downside of the manifest, why eliminate?

16:12:58 <mgylling> dauwhe: duplication

Dave Cramer: duplication

16:13:14 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: q+

16:13:37 <mgylling> pbelfanti: in order to eliminate the manifest, would the spine items have to be more explicit?

Paul Belfanti: in order to eliminate the manifest, would the spine items have to be more explicit?

16:14:14 <mgylling> dauwhe: not necessarily, we are still thinking about it

Dave Cramer: not necessarily, we are still thinking about it

16:14:58 <mgylling> tzviya: we’ve talked about it extensively in this group, and started to touch on it in the EPUB group, but we can talk about it more offline as well as in EPUB browser friendly

Tzviya Siegman: we’ve talked about it extensively in this group, and started to touch on it in the EPUB group, but we can talk about it more offline as well as in EPUB browser friendly

16:15:00 <tzviya> ack bill

Tzviya Siegman: ack bill

16:15:35 <mgylling> Bill_Kasdorf: the manifest has lost more information than the spine and the toc, its an explicit packing list, toc and spine dont document all the things

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: the manifest has lost more information than the spine and the toc, its an explicit packing list, toc and spine dont document all the things

16:16:01 <pkra> i'm here

Peter Krautzberger: i'm here

16:16:25 <mgylling> tzviya: several members of the CSS WG spent a lot of time with is, what came up over and over again, is that we need to provide more examples

Tzviya Siegman: several members of the CSS WG spent a lot of time with is, what came up over and over again, is that we need to provide more examples

16:16:35 <Bill_Kasdorf> cant remember the IRC syntax but "lost" should be "lots"

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf:

16:16:48 <mgylling> … we need to be able to explain what we mean with e.g. table alignment

… we need to be able to explain what we mean with e.g. table alignment

16:17:10 <mgylling> mgylling: this was the purpose of latinReq?

Markus Gylling: this was the purpose of latinReq?

16:17:27 <tzviya> s/cant remember the IRC syntax but "lost" should be "lots"/
16:17:37 <tzviya> s/lost/lots
16:18:34 <mgylling> dauwhe: some other things going on here, what is the web doing badly right now, another thing they want is, the high level of detail to implement these features, such as [extremely compicated alignment example], its going to take some research to provide all the details

Dave Cramer: some other things going on here, what is the web doing badly right now, another thing they want is, the high level of detail to implement these features, such as [extremely complicated alignment example], its going to take some research to provide all the details

16:19:00 <mgylling> s/compicated/complicated
16:19:14 <mgylling> tzviya: we had a lengty discussion about the interplay between CSS and Math

Tzviya Siegman: we had a lengty discussion about the interplay between CSS and Math

16:19:27 <pkra> hehe.

Peter Krautzberger: hehe.

16:19:29 <pkra> no

Peter Krautzberger: no

16:19:56 <mgylling> … pkra, you are being invited to a Houdini meeting to figure out what happens next

… pkra, you are being invited to a Houdini meeting to figure out what happens next

16:20:15 <Bill_Kasdorf> If it's a Houdini meeting does it mean he's in chains and has to try to escape?

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Scribe problem: the name 'Bill_Kasdorf' does not match any of the 13 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Deborah Kaplan Tzviya Siegman Dave Cramer Paul Belfanti Paul Belfanti Markus Gylling Charles LaPierre Unknown Tim_Cole Unknown Peter Peter Krautzberger Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: If it's a Houdini meeting does it mean he's in chains and has to try to escape?

16:21:20 <mgylling> pkra: accessibliity seems to be the more pressing and more lower hangning fruit right now

Peter Krautzberger: accessibliity seems to be the more pressing and more lower hanging fruit right now

16:21:34 <mgylling> s/hangning/hanging
16:21:59 <mgylling> tzviya: we talked about POM, glazou started a CG

Tzviya Siegman: we talked about POM, glazou started a CG

16:22:25 <mgylling> … and a meeting with Jake Archibald about Service Workers

… and a meeting with Jake Archibald about Service Workers

16:23:40 <mgylling> DanielWeck: Jake would say that he has implemented a POC on his way back home, demonstrating how a simple ereader can get hold of content and store it in the cache to  enable an offline reading experience

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Unknown DanielWeck: Jake would say that he has implemented a POC on his way back home, demonstrating how a simple ereader can get hold of content and store it in the cache to enable an offline reading experience

16:23:52 <tzviya> POM CG: https://www.w3.org/community/pom/

Tzviya Siegman: POM CG: https://www.w3.org/community/pom/

16:24:33 <tzviya> Jake's sample SW-based system and file: https://jakearchibald.github.io/ebook-demo/publisher-site/readme/

Tzviya Siegman: Jake's sample SW-based system and file: https://jakearchibald.github.io/ebook-demo/publisher-site/readme/

16:25:13 <mgylling> … during the discussions the angle at which PWP is looking at this problem [echo… ]  in Readium we use SW to extract files from an archive transparently, the SW intercepts the requests for resources, the WebView is oblivious to this

… during the discussions the angle at which PWP is looking at this problem [echo… ] in Readium we use SW to extract files from an archive transparently, the SW intercepts the requests for resources, the WebView is oblivious to this

16:25:49 <mgylling> … PWP is more interested in enabling this offline-first experience, to store using the Cache API that comes with SW

… PWP is more interested in enabling this offline-first experience, to store using the Cache API that comes with SW

16:27:03 <mgylling> tzviya: our takeaway is that 1) SW may not be the best approach for the file, based on the way that it is architected, 2) based on the questions we heard asked, it sounds like it is not clear what the best way forward is for systems

Tzviya Siegman: our takeaway is that 1) SW may not be the best approach for the file, based on the way that it is architected, 2) based on the questions we heard asked, it sounds like it is not clear what the best way forward is for systems

16:27:51 <mgylling> … jake asked us to do some testing, he wants to know from us if it is a use case

… jake asked us to do some testing, he wants to know from us if it is a use case

16:28:01 <mgylling> … the action item is to continue testing

… the action item is to continue testing

16:28:53 <mgylling> … the PWP document also needs some tweaking in SW

… the PWP document also needs some tweaking in SW

16:29:12 <mgylling> … and the second day we talked about education and outreach

… on the second day we talked about education and outreach

16:29:13 <clapierre> q?

Charles LaPierre: q?

16:29:21 <mgylling> s/and the second/on the second
16:29:35 <mgylling> … Karen has been working on this and we have a blog

… Karen has been working on this and we have a blog

16:30:11 <mgylling> … all IG members are encouraged to contribute in messaging

… all IG members are encouraged to contribute in messaging

16:30:26 <mgylling> … we had a session about identifiers, we distilled some of the questions

… we had a session about identifiers, we distilled some of the questions

16:30:35 <mgylling> … and a joint meeting with ARIA

… and a joint meeting with ARIA

16:30:49 <mgylling> … they will look at our feedback as the next step

… they will look at our feedback as the next step

16:31:21 <mgylling> … we also heard a bit about Web Components

… we also heard a bit about Web Components

16:31:38 <mgylling> … and recommending 2nd PWD of DPUB-ARIA

… and recommending 2nd PWD of DPUB-ARIA

16:31:51 <mgylling> … in mid november

… in mid november

16:32:03 <mgylling> tzviya: I can put the action items into the tracker

Tzviya Siegman: I can put the action items into the tracker

16:32:52 <mgylling> [tzviya reads out action items]

[tzviya reads out action items]

16:33:08 <pkra> psyched.

Peter Krautzberger: psyched.

16:34:32 <Bill_Kasdorf> I can provide contacts at OCLC who I think should be involved from the library side.]

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: I can provide contacts at OCLC who I think should be involved from the library side.]

16:36:11 <mgylling> tzviya: we need examples of better hyphenation, CSS WG needs to understand what the rules are

Tzviya Siegman: we need examples of better hyphenation, CSS WG needs to understand what the rules are

16:37:20 <Bill_Kasdorf> pharmaceutical terms are a huge hyphenation challenge

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Unknown Bill_Kasdorf: pharmaceutical terms are a huge hyphenation challenge

16:38:04 <mgylling> tzviya: requests to consider changing time for the weekly meeting, we will create a poll

Tzviya Siegman: requests to consider changing time for the weekly meeting, we will create a poll

16:38:41 <mgylling> … Daniel Glazman is trying to include not just EPUB in POM, so looking for information about other formats

… Daniel Glazman is trying to include not just EPUB in POM, so looking for information about other formats

16:40:42 <mgylling> … mid november is target date for 2nd PWD of DPUB-ARIA, also FPWD of the mappings

… mid november is target date for 2nd PWD of DPUB-ARIA, also FPWD of the mappings

16:41:00 <mgylling> … we need more code samples in the DPUB-ARIA module

… we need more code samples in the DPUB-ARIA module

16:41:26 <mgylling> … but that can wait til third PWD

… but that can wait til third PWD

16:42:03 <tzviya> q?

Tzviya Siegman: q?

16:48:39 <tzviya> http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/

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Tzviya Siegman: http://w3cmemes.tumblr.com/

16:48:58 <pkra> *clap*

Peter Krautzberger: *clap*

16:49:23 <pkra> you're awesome.

Peter Krautzberger: you're awesome.

16:49:30 <mgylling> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

16:49:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/02-dpub-minutes.html mgylling

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/02-dpub-minutes.html mgylling



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