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Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 24 August 2015

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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Aug/0121.html
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Ben De Meester, Bill Kasdorf, Brady Duga, Charles LaPierre, Deborah Kaplan, Heather Flanagan, Ivan Herman, Julie Morris, Karen Myers, Leonard Rosenthol, Markus Gylling, Paul Belfanti, Peter Krautzberger, Timothy Cole, Tzviya Siegman, Unknown NickRuffilo
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Tzviya Siegman
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Timothy Cole
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14:22:54 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:22:55 <trackbot> Date: 24 August 2015
14:23:56 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Aug/0077.html
14:23:59 <ivan> chair: Markus
14:58:36 <tzviya> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Aug/0121.html
14:59:12 <mgylling> Present+ Markus_Gylling

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Markus Gylling: Present+ Markus_Gylling

14:59:31 <tzviya> Present+ Tzviya_Siegman

Tzviya Siegman: Present+ Tzviya_Siegman

14:59:42 <ivan> Present+ Ivan_Herman

Ivan Herman: Present+ Ivan_Herman

15:00:27 <Julie_Morris> present + Julie_Morris

Julie Morris: present + Julie_Morris

15:00:37 <brady_duga> present+ duga

Brady Duga: present+ duga

15:01:05 <lrosenth> present+ Leonard

Leonard Rosenthol: present+ Leonard

15:01:20 <Karen> present+ Karen

Karen Myers: present+ Karen

15:01:37 <dkaplan3> present+ Deborah_Kaplan

Deborah Kaplan: present+ Deborah_Kaplan

15:01:55 <ivan> present+ Nick

Ivan Herman: present+ Nick

15:02:03 <pkra> present+ Peter Krautzberger

Peter Krautzberger: present+ Peter Krautzberger

15:02:04 <HeatherF> present +Heather_Flanagan

Heather Flanagan: present +Heather_Flanagan

15:02:08 <TimCole> Present+ TimCole

Timothy Cole: Present+ TimCole

15:02:09 <Bill_Kasdorf> present+ Bill_Kasdorf

Bill Kasdorf: present+ Bill_Kasdorf

15:02:32 <ivan> scribenick: TimCole

(Scribe set to Timothy Cole)

15:02:45 <clapierre> present+ Charles LaPierre

Charles LaPierre: present+ Charles LaPierre

15:02:48 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
15:03:14 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-dpub-minutes.html

Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-dpub-minutes.html

15:03:23 <TimCole> Topic: Minutes

1. Minutes

15:03:26 <HeatherF> ship 'em!

Heather Flanagan: ship 'em!

15:03:39 <TimCole> Minutes Approved.

Minutes Approved.

15:03:50 <ivan> Topic: update of A11y task force

2. update of A11y task force

15:03:51 <TimCole> Topic: Update on Accessibility

3. Update on Accessibility

15:03:52 <bjdmeest> Present+ Ben_De_Meester

Ben De Meester: Present+ Ben_De_Meester

15:04:08 <pbelfanti> present + Paul Belfanti

Paul Belfanti: present + Paul Belfanti

15:04:13 <clapierre> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-accessibility/

Charles LaPierre: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-accessibility/

15:04:32 <TimCole> clapierre: progress on note ongoing, but a little slow

Charles LaPierre: progress on note ongoing, but a little slow

15:04:42 <TimCole> ... a number of topics to fill in

... a number of topics to fill in

15:04:59 <TimCole> ... image descriptions task is taking some time (working with P&F / ARIA)

... image descriptions task is taking some time (working with P&F / ARIA)

15:05:17 <TimCole> ... need to get this into a spec that can be used

... need to get this into a spec that can be used

15:05:27 <TimCole> ... looking at alternatives that may be better fit

... looking at alternatives that may be better fit

15:05:38 <TimCole> ... a lot of discussion on MathML lately

... a lot of discussion on MathML lately

15:05:53 <TimCole> ... this also has taken some focus away from producing the Note

... this also has taken some focus away from producing the Note

15:06:07 <TimCole> ... will be looking for reviews from this group.

... will be looking for reviews from this group.

15:06:14 <lrosenth> q+

Leonard Rosenthol: q+

15:06:48 <TimCole> deborah: we sometimes think about digital publishing as a special case of Web publishing, but really DPub has some different needs when it comes to Accessibility

Deborah Kaplan: we sometimes think about digital publishing as a special case of Web publishing, but really DPub has some different needs when it comes to Accessibility

15:06:52 <tzviya> ack lr

Tzviya Siegman: ack lr

15:07:01 <TimCole> ... really appreciate input from this group.

... really appreciate input from this group.

15:07:36 <TimCole> lrosenth: good information in the draft note, but some of these issues have been addressed in an ISO std. (which one?)

Leonard Rosenthol: good information in the draft note, but some of these issues have been addressed in an ISO std. (which one?)

15:08:05 <TimCole> ... conceptually some of these items in PDF UA may be helpful

... conceptually some of these items in PDF UA may be helpful

15:08:27 <TimCole> deborah: we want to encourage 2 way communications with other groups

Deborah Kaplan: we want to encourage 2 way communications with other groups

15:08:42 <lrosenth> will do!

Leonard Rosenthol: will do!

15:08:46 <TimCole> clapierre: please add edits or issues to the current draft on github

Charles LaPierre: please add edits or issues to the current draft on github

15:09:23 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis

Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis

15:09:46 <clapierre> wil do

Charles LaPierre: wil do

15:09:46 <TimCole> tzviya: adding an additional link to P&F grid about DPub requirements; they've asked for a punch list of comments from DPub

Tzviya Siegman: adding an additional link to P&F grid about DPub requirements; they've asked for a punch list of comments from DPub

15:10:07 <TimCole> ... our requirements are already well reflected in this draft from P&F

... our requirements are already well reflected in this draft from P&F

15:10:22 <HeatherF> Even positive comments are worthwhile

Heather Flanagan: Even positive comments are worthwhile

15:10:31 <TimCole> ... conversations about some our requests, e.g., details

... conversations about some our requests, e.g., details

15:12:14 <TimCole> deborah: (in response to a question) the sub-group is on top of getting the note done, though help is always welcome.

Deborah Kaplan: (in response to a question) the sub-group is on top of getting the note done, though help is always welcome.

15:12:43 <TimCole> Topic: document about publishing requirements for packaging

4. document about publishing requirements for packaging

15:12:44 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Requirements_for_Web_Publication_and_Packaging

Tzviya Siegman: https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Requirements_for_Web_Publication_and_Packaging

15:13:10 <lrosenth> +1 to move it forward

Leonard Rosenthol: +1 to move it forward

15:13:15 <tzviya> +1

Tzviya Siegman: +1

15:13:18 <TimCole> tzviya: there has been a lot of talking about the document, but we seem to have approached consensus as of end of last week

Tzviya Siegman: there has been a lot of talking about the document, but we seem to have approached consensus as of end of last week

15:13:20 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

15:13:20 <pkra> +1

Peter Krautzberger: +1

15:13:20 <mgylling> +1

Markus Gylling: +1

15:13:23 <HeatherF> +1

Heather Flanagan: +1

15:13:26 <NickRuffilo> +1

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Unknown NickRuffilo: +1

15:13:27 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:13:29 <clapierre> +1

Charles LaPierre: +1

15:13:31 <TimCole> ... are we ready to push this forward (+1_

... are we ready to push this forward (+1_

15:13:32 <tzviya> ack ivan

Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan

15:13:42 <bjdmeest> +1

Ben De Meester: +1

15:13:47 <Karen> +1

Karen Myers: +1

15:13:47 <lrosenth> q+

Leonard Rosenthol: q+

15:13:52 <Julie_Morris> +1

Julie Morris: +1

15:14:04 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1

Bill Kasdorf: +1

15:14:11 <pbelfanti> +1

Paul Belfanti: +1

15:14:36 <TimCole> ivan: before sending to public list, we may worth contacting ??? to see if this is the form of comments they want to receive

Ivan Herman: before sending to public list, we may worth contacting Yves to see if this is the form of comments they want to receive

15:14:48 <tzviya> s/???/Yves
15:15:17 <TimCole> ... we did this partly for ourselves, but also this will be of interest to Eve and others working on packaging standard

... we did this partly for ourselves, but also this will be of interest to Eve and others working on packaging standard

15:15:29 <lrosenth> q-

Leonard Rosenthol: q-

15:15:37 <TimCole> ... so we should check with them to make sure format is of use.

... so we should check with them to make sure format is of use.

15:15:57 <TimCole> ... alternatively we could distill out something more specific to their needs

... alternatively we could distill out something more specific to their needs

15:15:58 <tzviya> S/Eve/Yves

Tzviya Siegman: S/Eve/Yves

15:16:19 <TimCole> ... tzviya or markus will send a note to see.

... tzviya or markus will send a note to see.

15:17:03 <TimCole> tzviya: assuming we send this forward to Yves, do we leave it as a Wiki page or publish more formally?

Tzviya Siegman: assuming we send this forward to Yves, do we leave it as a Wiki page or publish more formally?

15:17:25 <TimCole> ivan: Don't know what they will prefer. For us Wiki page is okay, but they may want something more formal.

Ivan Herman: Don't know what they will prefer. For us Wiki page is okay, but they may want something more formal.

15:17:40 <TimCole> ... we need to check to see if Yves is on vacation

... we need to check to see if Yves is on vacation

15:18:04 <TimCole> ... should be back by end of the week.

... should be back by end of the week.

15:18:22 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details

Tzviya Siegman: https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details

15:18:30 <lrosenth> q+

Leonard Rosenthol: q+

15:18:49 <tzviya> ack lr

Tzviya Siegman: ack lr

15:18:52 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:18:52 <clapierre> q+

Charles LaPierre: q+

15:19:09 <TimCole> tzviya: There are people in this group who have registered for TPAC, but have not registered for DPub session? Are they going to attend DPub and what would they want to talk about?

Tzviya Siegman: There are people in this group who have registered for TPAC, but have not registered for DPub session? Are they going to attend DPub and what would they want to talk about?

15:19:24 <tzviya> ack ivan

Tzviya Siegman: ack ivan

15:19:27 <HeatherF> q+

Heather Flanagan: q+

15:19:34 <TimCole> ivan: in response to question, there will be WebEx for those who want to participate remotely.

Ivan Herman: in response to question, there will be WebEx for those who want to participate remotely.

15:19:43 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details

Tzviya Siegman: https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Oct_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details

15:20:09 <TimCole> ivan: there is a topic that came up on the mailing list - we may want to have a discussion of glossary of the terms we (DPub) uses

Ivan Herman: there is a topic that came up on the mailing list - we may want to have a discussion of glossary of the terms we (DPub) uses

15:20:23 <TimCole> ... this might be a good thing to have by no later than TPAC

... this might be a good thing to have by no later than TPAC

15:20:53 <TimCole> ... it's good to have a clear idea for ourselves and others about what we mean, especially in contrast to some of these terms as used on the Web

... it's good to have a clear idea for ourselves and others about what we mean, especially in contrast to some of these terms as used on the Web

15:21:04 <TimCole> ... will facilitate future work

... will facilitate future work

15:21:12 <HeatherF> +1

Heather Flanagan: +1

15:21:21 <mgylling> q?

Markus Gylling: q?

15:21:22 <TimCole> tzviya: a great idea

Tzviya Siegman: a great idea

15:21:40 <TimCole> ... case in point - the word 'semantics'

... case in point - the word 'semantics'

15:22:02 <TimCole> ... let's start a wiki page now

... let's start a wiki page now

15:22:14 <TimCole> ivan: will do start this wiki page

Ivan Herman: will do start this wiki page

15:22:23 <tzviya> ack cl

Tzviya Siegman: ack cl

15:22:55 <TimCole> clapierre: just got confirmation that I will be going to TPAC

Charles LaPierre: just got confirmation that I will be going to TPAC

15:23:38 <TimCole> ... would want to schedule some time to talk about Accessibility - do we need to coordinate with P&F and/or CSS

... would want to schedule some time to talk about Accessibility - do we need to coordinate with P&F and/or CSS

15:24:09 <pbelfanti> q+

Paul Belfanti: q+

15:24:21 <TimCole> ... have we heard about DPub charter renewal

... have we heard about DPub charter renewal

15:25:12 <TimCole> ivan: we had a good number of positive votes, vote being reviewed, should here in a week or two

Ivan Herman: we had a good number of positive votes, vote being reviewed, should here in a week or two

15:25:17 <tzviya> ack heather

Tzviya Siegman: ack heather

15:25:39 <TimCole> HeatherF: Any advice for first-time TPAC attendees?

Heather Flanagan: Any advice for first-time TPAC attendees?

15:25:44 <tzviya> ack pbel

Tzviya Siegman: ack pbel

15:26:18 <TimCole> pbelfanti: has a request in to attend TPAC

Paul Belfanti: has a request in to attend TPAC

15:26:57 <TimCole> ... would like to talk about topics raised by Daniel ???

... would like to talk about topics raised by Daniel Glazman

15:27:13 <tzviya> s/???/Glazman
15:27:29 <TimCole> tzviya: not everyone is aware of these topics?

Tzviya Siegman: not everyone is aware of these topics?

15:28:45 <TimCole> ... will review on a call before TPAC

... will review on a call before TPAC

15:29:21 <TimCole> ... the logistics page provides an opportunity to suggest topics / task force discussions for TPAC

... the logistics page provides an opportunity to suggest topics / task force discussions for TPAC

15:29:51 <pkra> do we want to talk about that MathML thread?

Peter Krautzberger: do we want to talk about that MathML thread?

15:30:03 <pkra> ...

Peter Krautzberger: ...

15:31:42 <tzviya> q?

Tzviya Siegman: q?

15:31:50 <Bill_Kasdorf> +1 to looking at Liam's e-mail

Bill Kasdorf: +1 to looking at Liam's e-mail

15:31:54 <TimCole> tzviya: if we do want to move forward with being a bit more activist, the MathML discussion suggested some possible ways forward.

Tzviya Siegman: if we do want to move forward with being a bit more activist, the MathML discussion suggested some possible ways forward.

15:32:17 <HeatherF> thanks

Heather Flanagan: thanks

15:32:17 <TimCole> ... adjourn early.

... adjourn early.

15:33:29 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon

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