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14:07:25 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/04/27-dpub-irc
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14:07:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be dpub
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14:07:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 53 minutes
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14:07:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:07:30 <trackbot> Date: 27 April 2015
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14:53:33 <Zakim> +clapierre
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14:57:45 <Zakim> +Tzviya
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14:57:52 <Zakim> +azaroth
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14:58:06 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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14:58:06 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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14:58:08 <Zakim> +Ivan
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14:58:19 <Zakim> +philm
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14:58:22 <Zakim> +Markus
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14:58:32 <Zakim> + +1.917.770.aaaa
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14:58:55 <Zakim> +Bill_Kasdorf
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14:59:03 <tzviya> agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Apr/0098.html
Tzviya Siegman: agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Apr/0098.html ←
14:59:19 <LDawson> 917-770.aaaa is me
Scribe problem: the name 'LDawson' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'LDawson' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown LDawson: 917-770.aaaa is me ←
14:59:25 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:59:27 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is LDawson
Ivan Herman: zakim, aaaa is LDawson ←
14:59:27 <Zakim> +LDawson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LDawson; got it ←
14:59:51 <mgylling_> zakim, who is here?
Markus Gylling: zakim, who is here? ←
14:59:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see clapierre, Tzviya, azaroth, Ivan, philm, Markus, LDawson, Bill_Kasdorf, ??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see clapierre, Tzviya, azaroth, Ivan, philm, Markus, LDawson, Bill_Kasdorf, ??P2 ←
14:59:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see AH_Miller, mgylling_, NickRuffilo, Bill_Kasdorf, phil_m, philm, tzviya, LDawson, azaroth, pkeating, clapierre1, mgylling, dauwhe, Zakim, RRSAgent, pkra, ivan, plinss,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see AH_Miller, mgylling_, NickRuffilo, Bill_Kasdorf, phil_m, philm, tzviya, LDawson, azaroth, pkeating, clapierre1, mgylling, dauwhe, Zakim, RRSAgent, pkra, ivan, plinss, ←
14:59:54 <Zakim> ... iank, rego, astearns, mihnea_____, liam, Karen, deborahGU, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... iank, rego, astearns, mihnea_____, liam, Karen, deborahGU, trackbot ←
14:59:57 <Zakim> + +1.206.849.aabb
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14:59:58 <Zakim> +dauwhe
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15:00:16 <Zakim> +deborahGU
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15:00:22 <NickRuffilo> zakim, +??P2 is me
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown NickRuffilo: zakim, +??P2 is me ←
15:00:22 <Zakim> sorry, NickRuffilo, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, NickRuffilo, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2' ←
15:00:35 <Zakim> +lfowler
Zakim IRC Bot: +lfowler ←
15:00:35 <ivan> zakim, aabb is pkeating
Ivan Herman: zakim, aabb is pkeating ←
15:00:36 <Zakim> +pkeating; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pkeating; got it ←
15:00:36 <Zakim> + +1.206.675.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.206.675.aacc ←
15:00:38 <Zakim> +MikeMiller
Zakim IRC Bot: +MikeMiller ←
15:00:43 <Zakim> +Vlad
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vlad ←
15:00:43 <astearns> zakim, aacc is me
Alan Stearns: zakim, aacc is me ←
15:00:44 <Zakim> +astearns; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +astearns; got it ←
15:00:52 <NickRuffilo> zakim, ??P2 is me
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown NickRuffilo: zakim, ??P2 is me ←
15:00:52 <Zakim> +NickRuffilo; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +NickRuffilo; got it ←
15:01:01 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers ←
15:01:08 <Zakim> +TimCole
Zakim IRC Bot: +TimCole ←
15:01:14 <NickRuffilo> Thank you dave
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown NickRuffilo: Thank you dave ←
15:01:28 <NickRuffilo> Zakim, I'm sorry, it's me, not you, but I will not be scribe today
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown NickRuffilo: Zakim, I'm sorry, it's me, not you, but I will not be scribe today ←
15:01:28 <Zakim> I don't understand you, NickRuffilo
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand you, NickRuffilo ←
15:01:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:01:39 <Zakim> +pkra
Zakim IRC Bot: +pkra ←
15:01:43 <ivan> scribenick: dauwhe
(Scribe set to Dave Cramer)
15:01:46 <dauwhe> scribenick: dauwhe
15:01:50 <NickRuffilo> Zakim, I know, its me, not you...
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'NickRuffilo' does not match any of the 93 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Anton Leskovets Avneesh Singh Ayla Stein Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Bryan Croft Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Dean Jackson Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Flanagan Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jeff Xu Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Johannes Wilm Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Liza Daly Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Matt Garrish Michael Miller Michael Cooper Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nicholas Ruffilo Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Patrick Keating Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Richard Schwerdtfeger Richard Ishida Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Shane McCarron Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Susann Keohane Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Toru Kawakubo Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vladimir Levantovsky Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown NickRuffilo: Zakim, I know, its me, not you... ←
15:01:50 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I know, its me, not you', NickRuffilo
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I know, its me, not you', NickRuffilo ←
15:02:41 <Zakim> -pkra
Zakim IRC Bot: -pkra ←
15:02:44 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
15:03:06 <Zakim> +pkra
Zakim IRC Bot: +pkra ←
15:03:22 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/20-dpub-minutes.html
Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2015/04/20-dpub-minutes.html ←
15:03:23 <Zakim> +pbelfanti
Zakim IRC Bot: +pbelfanti ←
15:03:33 <dauwhe> tzviya: let's look at last week's minutes
Tzviya Siegman: let's look at last week's minutes ←
15:03:38 <dauwhe> ... motion to accept?
... motion to accept? ←
15:03:42 <dauwhe> ... minutes approved.
... minutes approved. ←
15:03:56 <dauwhe> ... today's agenda
... today's agenda ←
15:04:08 <tzviya> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Apr/0098.html
Tzviya Siegman: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Apr/0098.html ←
15:04:23 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-digipub-ig/2015Apr/0098.html
15:04:25 <TimCole> q+
Timothy Cole: q+ ←
15:04:27 <dauwhe> ... discuss STEM survey results, and then IDs and selectors
... discuss STEM survey results, and then IDs and selectors ←
15:04:38 <Zakim> +[Ugent]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[Ugent] ←
15:04:42 <bjdmeest> zakim, Ugent is me
Ben De Meester: zakim, Ugent is me ←
15:04:42 <Zakim> +bjdmeest; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bjdmeest; got it ←
15:04:44 <Zakim> +Bert
Zakim IRC Bot: +Bert ←
15:04:45 <mgylling> ack TimeCole
Markus Gylling: ack TimeCole ←
15:04:45 <tzviya> ack timCole
Tzviya Siegman: ack timCole ←
15:04:58 <dauwhe> TimCole: We have an agenda to discuss footnotes and HTML
Timothy Cole: We have an agenda to discuss footnotes and HTML ←
15:05:16 <ivan> Topic: STEM Survey
15:05:28 <dauwhe> pkra: first look at survery
Peter Krautzberger: first look at survery ←
15:05:47 <dauwhe> ... 34 responses
... 34 responses ←
15:05:56 <dauwhe> ... sent to 93 people
... sent to 93 people ←
15:06:03 <dauwhe> ... ok result, but not too exciting
... ok result, but not too exciting ←
15:06:13 <dauwhe> ... people don't feel qualified to answer
... people don't feel qualified to answer ←
15:06:36 <dauwhe> ... good coverage on all questions
... good coverage on all questions ←
15:06:49 <dauwhe> ... 37 questions total
... 37 questions total ←
15:06:59 <dauwhe> ... there's an unsurprising bias towards math
... there's an unsurprising bias towards math ←
15:07:11 <dauwhe> ... partly due to me leading the survey
... partly due to me leading the survey ←
15:07:20 <dauwhe> ... lots of people talked about mathml
... lots of people talked about mathml ←
15:07:29 <dauwhe> ... it wasn't a random sample
... it wasn't a random sample ←
15:07:39 <dauwhe> ... run through a few of the questions
... run through a few of the questions ←
15:08:05 <dauwhe> ... first section was about background
... first section was about background ←
15:08:10 <dauwhe> ... bias towards CS and math
... bias towards CS and math ←
15:08:26 <dauwhe> ... 2nd was professional background
... 2nd was professional background ←
15:08:38 <dauwhe> ... didn't have a lot of ???
... didn't have a lot of aggregators ←
15:08:48 <ivan> s/???/aggregators/
15:08:52 <dauwhe> ... most people were researchers
... most people were researchers ←
15:09:24 <dauwhe> ... researchers were primary audience
... researchers were primary audience ←
15:09:36 <dauwhe> ... we forgot to ask about students as audience
... we forgot to ask about students as audience ←
15:10:04 <dauwhe> ... which platforms people serve
... which platforms people serve ←
15:10:18 <dauwhe> ... a few comments pointed to "the web is our platform"
... a few comments pointed to "the web is our platform" ←
15:10:30 <dauwhe> ... most people were focusing on desktop
... most people were focusing on desktop ←
15:10:49 <dauwhe> ... on the low end was print and ebooks
... on the low end was print and ebooks ←
15:11:11 <dauwhe> ... next section was about content
... next section was about content ←
15:11:17 <dauwhe> ... subject domains
... subject domains ←
15:11:54 <dauwhe> ... the question about reusing content was unclear
... the question about reusing content was unclear ←
15:12:11 <dauwhe> ... "were people actively reusing content"
... "were people actively reusing content" ←
15:12:22 <dauwhe> ... prev. q was about making content resuable
... prev. q was about making content resuable ←
15:12:30 <dauwhe> ... so people just repeated answer
... so people just repeated answer ←
15:12:37 <dauwhe> ... there was q about standardization
... there was q about standardization ←
15:12:48 <dauwhe> ... there will be fun quotes from that
... there will be fun quotes from that ←
15:13:02 <pkra> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/results
Peter Krautzberger: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/64149/DPUB-STEM-2014-12/results ←
15:13:22 <dauwhe> ... next section about authoring
... next section about authoring ←
15:13:28 <dauwhe> ... there were a couple of problems
... there were a couple of problems ←
15:13:36 <dauwhe> ... first question didn't get responses we wanted
... first question didn't get responses we wanted ←
15:13:54 <dauwhe> ... should have asked explicitly about STEM fragments
... should have asked explicitly about STEM fragments ←
15:14:15 <dauwhe> ... want to know why people lose information when converting
... want to know why people lose information when converting ←
15:14:25 <dauwhe> ... but questions were too vague
... but questions were too vague ←
15:14:41 <dauwhe> ... people talked about transformation of text formats
... people talked about transformation of text formats ←
15:15:30 <dauwhe> ... surprised to hear people do version control, did mention things like git
... surprised to hear people do version control, did mention things like git ←
15:15:54 <dauwhe> ... "we see more and more JSON in scholarly publishing"
... "we see more and more JSON in scholarly publishing" ←
15:16:04 <dauwhe> ... that was unexpected answer to STEM fragment storage question
... that was unexpected answer to STEM fragment storage question ←
15:16:10 <dauwhe> ... and very positive
... and very positive ←
15:16:24 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
15:16:34 <dauwhe> ivan: are some formats other than MathML that are widely used?
Ivan Herman: are some formats other than MathML that are widely used? ←
15:16:46 <dauwhe> pkra: one question asked that
Peter Krautzberger: one question asked that ←
15:16:50 <dauwhe> ... not at this point
... not at this point ←
15:17:11 <dauwhe> ... alas, I don't have all the data in my head :)
... alas, I don't have all the data in my head :) ←
15:17:21 <dauwhe> tzviya: question 21, maybe?
Tzviya Siegman: question 21, maybe? ←
15:17:26 <dauwhe> pkra: yes, 21
Peter Krautzberger: yes, 21 ←
15:17:40 <dauwhe> ... CML
... CML ←
15:17:52 <dauwhe> ... there isn't that much
... there isn't that much ←
15:18:19 <dauwhe> ... someone from Wolfram had CDS
... someone from Wolfram had CDS ←
15:18:28 <dauwhe> ... not as much as I'd hoped
... not as much as I'd hoped ←
15:18:35 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
15:18:43 <dauwhe> ... in the authoring section
... in the authoring section ←
15:19:06 <dauwhe> ... Q15, how do people provide access to content fragments
... Q15, how do people provide access to content fragments ←
15:19:18 <dauwhe> ... that was a good result
... that was a good result ←
15:19:28 <dauwhe> ... people are used to using XML
... people are used to using XML ←
15:19:43 <dauwhe> ... next section on delivery
... next section on delivery ←
15:19:47 <dauwhe> ... how is content delivered
... how is content delivered ←
15:19:59 <dauwhe> ... HTML was ahead of PDF
... HTML was ahead of PDF ←
15:20:08 <dauwhe> ... 32% to 26%
... 32% to 26% ←
15:20:20 <dauwhe> ... most produce both
... most produce both ←
15:20:59 <dauwhe> ... there was an open question about desired methods
... there was an open question about desired methods ←
15:21:04 <dauwhe> ... with ten longer comments
... with ten longer comments ←
15:21:19 <dauwhe> ... Q about migrating away from PDF
... Q about migrating away from PDF ←
15:21:24 <dauwhe> ... people said Yes
... people said Yes ←
15:21:47 <dauwhe> ... not enthusiastic about PDF but said they have to
... not enthusiastic about PDF but said they have to ←
15:22:03 <dauwhe> ... Q about exposing data on web
... Q about exposing data on web ←
15:22:11 <dauwhe> ... answers were all over the place
... answers were all over the place ←
15:22:44 <dauwhe> ... Q about embedding scientific data via attributes, microdata, etc.
... Q about embedding scientific data via attributes, microdata, etc. ←
15:22:52 <dauwhe> ... quite a bit of stuff there
... quite a bit of stuff there ←
15:23:05 <dauwhe> tzviya: more summary would be good
Tzviya Siegman: more summary would be good ←
15:23:08 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
15:23:38 <dauwhe> pkra: we didn't mention stem fragments again when asking about bridging reading and authoring
Peter Krautzberger: we didn't mention stem fragments again when asking about bridging reading and authoring ←
15:23:47 <dauwhe> ... lots of fun quotes about reading
... lots of fun quotes about reading ←
15:23:55 <dauwhe> ... the workflow section was tricky to write
... the workflow section was tricky to write ←
15:24:06 <dauwhe> ... similarly solid in results, no surprises but good data
... similarly solid in results, no surprises but good data ←
15:24:15 <dauwhe> ... PDF comes up because we have to
... PDF comes up because we have to ←
15:24:30 <dauwhe> ... a11y section I haven't looked at much
... a11y section I haven't looked at much ←
15:24:37 <dauwhe> ... that was a challenging section
... that was a challenging section ←
15:24:50 <dauwhe> ... more answers about people not having expertise or answers
... more answers about people not having expertise or answers ←
15:24:59 <dauwhe> tzviya: I have a few questions
Tzviya Siegman: I have a few questions ←
15:25:03 <dauwhe> ... first
... first ←
15:25:20 <dauwhe> ... everyone should read through this even if STEM isn't your bag
... everyone should read through this even if STEM isn't your bag ←
15:25:29 <dauwhe> ... thanks PKRA!
... thanks PKRA! ←
15:25:47 <dauwhe> ... so what do we do next? There's a lot of information here, and it's all over the place
... so what do we do next? There's a lot of information here, and it's all over the place ←
15:26:00 <dauwhe> ... might be helpful to focus on a few points and go from there
... might be helpful to focus on a few points and go from there ←
15:26:10 <tzviya> q?
Tzviya Siegman: q? ←
15:26:24 <dauwhe> pkra: one challenge is to extract data in efficient way to spreadsheet
Peter Krautzberger: one challenge is to extract data in efficient way to spreadsheet ←
15:26:37 <dauwhe> ... yes, it's a lot, and it's not clear what to focus on
... yes, it's a lot, and it's not clear what to focus on ←
15:26:45 <dauwhe> ... a meeting of task force will help
... a meeting of task force will help ←
15:26:53 <dauwhe> ... to get an in-depth summary
... to get an in-depth summary ←
15:27:02 <dauwhe> ... original idea was to publish a note by the IG
... original idea was to publish a note by the IG ←
15:27:18 <dauwhe> ... but the input in some sections is not viable
... but the input in some sections is not viable ←
15:27:30 <dauwhe> ... for example, a11y is not balanced enough to provide good feedback
... for example, a11y is not balanced enough to provide good feedback ←
15:27:41 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
Bill Kasdorf: q+ ←
15:27:54 <dauwhe> tzviya: if we try to write a note summarizing everything, it would be huge
Tzviya Siegman: if we try to write a note summarizing everything, it would be huge ←
15:28:14 <dauwhe> pkra: would be good to make data avaliable in anonymized fashion
Peter Krautzberger: would be good to make data avaliable in anonymized fashion ←
15:28:23 <dauwhe> ivan: I've already produced a spreadsheet
Ivan Herman: I've already produced a spreadsheet ←
15:28:28 <dauwhe> ... so I can just remove a column
... so I can just remove a column ←
15:28:40 <dauwhe> pkra: yes, but maybe that's a different conversation
Peter Krautzberger: yes, but maybe that's a different conversation ←
15:28:46 <dauwhe> ... I had trouble with the spreadsheet
... I had trouble with the spreadsheet ←
15:29:00 <dauwhe> ... Ivan, is it legally possible to publish data?
... Ivan, is it legally possible to publish data? ←
15:29:10 <dauwhe> ivan: if it's anonymous, then it's not a problem
Ivan Herman: if it's anonymous, then it's not a problem ←
15:29:18 <astearns> not just names, but any identifying details in free-form responses
Alan Stearns: not just names, but any identifying details in free-form responses ←
15:29:20 <dauwhe> pkra: then the note can be much more focused
Peter Krautzberger: then the note can be much more focused ←
15:29:39 <dauwhe> ... it's all anecdotal
... it's all anecdotal ←
15:29:42 <tzviya> ack Bill_Kasdorf
Tzviya Siegman: ack Bill_Kasdorf ←
15:30:00 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: while the anon. data are useful, what's most important are the messages
Bill Kasdorf: while the anon. data are useful, what's most important are the messages ←
15:30:11 <dauwhe> ... sometimes they're clear and sometimes they're contradictory
... sometimes they're clear and sometimes they're contradictory ←
15:30:20 <dauwhe> ... don't need to cover all issues equally
... don't need to cover all issues equally ←
15:30:28 <dauwhe> ... what did we hear that was notable?
... what did we hear that was notable? ←
15:30:32 <dauwhe> pkra: I agree
Peter Krautzberger: I agree ←
15:30:43 <dauwhe> tzviya: OK. Any other comments?
Tzviya Siegman: OK. Any other comments? ←
15:30:55 <dauwhe> ivan: You also need people around you?
Ivan Herman: You also need people around you? ←
15:31:08 <dauwhe> pkra: I will rely on the task force, but more people will be great.
Peter Krautzberger: I will rely on the task force, but more people will be great. ←
15:31:29 <NickRuffilo> q+
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Unknown NickRuffilo: q+ ←
15:31:31 <dauwhe> ivan: if anyone in the group has some experience in managing survey results, volunteer!
Ivan Herman: if anyone in the group has some experience in managing survey results, volunteer! ←
15:31:42 <tzviya> ack Nick
Tzviya Siegman: ack Nick ←
15:31:45 <dauwhe> pkra: I'm also not experienced
Peter Krautzberger: I'm also not experienced ←
15:31:52 <dauwhe> NickRuffilo: I've done this
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Unknown NickRuffilo: I've done this ←
15:31:56 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
Bill Kasdorf: q+ ←
15:32:15 <dauwhe> ... if you have any questions about creating non-leading questions or analyzing results, please let me know
... if you have any questions about creating non-leading questions or analyzing results, please let me know ←
15:32:35 <dauwhe> ... I'll pull up articles I've written about this
... I'll pull up articles I've written about this ←
15:32:53 <tzviya> ack Bill
Tzviya Siegman: ack Bill ←
15:32:57 <dauwhe> tzviya: NickRuffilo is our new favorite
Tzviya Siegman: NickRuffilo is our new favorite ←
15:33:15 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: too much reliance on statistical analysis would be suspect due to the small and biased sample
Bill Kasdorf: too much reliance on statistical analysis would be suspect due to the small and biased sample ←
15:33:17 <pkra> +eleventy
Peter Krautzberger: +eleventy ←
15:33:20 <dauwhe> ... more an editorial task
... more an editorial task ←
15:33:35 <Karen> q+
Karen Myers: q+ ←
15:33:42 <tzviya> ack Karen
Tzviya Siegman: ack Karen ←
15:34:26 <NickRuffilo> Excel TIPS: http://publishingperspectives.com/2013/01/tips-for-technologists-7-excel-with-excel/
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Unknown NickRuffilo: Excel TIPS: http://publishingperspectives.com/2013/01/tips-for-technologists-7-excel-with-excel/ ←
15:34:30 <dauwhe> Karen: do I have confidence this is not public, just members-only? I don't think raw results should be public
Karen Myers: do I have confidence this is not public, just members-only? I don't think raw results should be public ←
15:34:34 <dauwhe> ivan: we can check
Ivan Herman: we can check ←
15:34:51 <dauwhe> pkra: it's always asked me to log in
Peter Krautzberger: it's always asked me to log in ←
15:34:55 <dauwhe> ivan: it's not public
Ivan Herman: it's not public ←
15:35:11 <dauwhe> Karen: OK. If there's a quote, it will not be attributed?
Karen Myers: OK. If there's a quote, it will not be attributed? ←
15:35:21 <dauwhe> ... more a qualitative report
... more a qualitative report ←
15:35:28 <dauwhe> ivan: it should never be quoted or attributed
Ivan Herman: it should never be quoted or attributed ←
15:35:40 <dauwhe> pkra: most people would be oK with that
Peter Krautzberger: most people would be oK with that ←
15:35:59 <dauwhe> tzviya: we've never asked permission to quote people
Tzviya Siegman: we've never asked permission to quote people ←
15:36:17 <dauwhe> ... we have our existing STEM task force, and Nick has been drafted.
... we have our existing STEM task force, and Nick has been drafted. ←
15:36:17 <Karen> q+
Karen Myers: q+ ←
15:36:23 <tzviya> ack Karen
Tzviya Siegman: ack Karen ←
15:36:40 <pkra> or otherwise shanghai you ;-)
Peter Krautzberger: or otherwise shanghai you ;-) ←
15:36:53 <dauwhe> Karen: we have a replacement AC rep for Copyright Clearance center, who may be interested in STEM
Karen Myers: we have a replacement AC rep for Copyright Clearance center, who may be interested in STEM ←
15:37:01 <dauwhe> tzviya: thanks Karen.
Tzviya Siegman: thanks Karen. ←
15:37:07 <dauwhe> ... moving on...
... moving on... ←
15:37:19 <ivan> Topic: Fragment ID-s
15:37:23 <dauwhe> ... a few weeks ago there was a discussion about fragment identifiers
... a few weeks ago there was a discussion about fragment identifiers ←
15:37:31 <tzviya> topic: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Apr/0051.html
15:37:32 <dauwhe> ... which ended up on the annotations list
... which ended up on the annotations list ←
15:37:46 <dauwhe> ... Ivan will lead us through this
... Ivan will lead us through this ←
15:37:53 <dauwhe> ivan: I didn't know I was going to do this :)
Ivan Herman: I didn't know I was going to do this :) ←
15:38:03 <dauwhe> tzviya: lots of discussion on what makes a legal identifier
Tzviya Siegman: lots of discussion on what makes a legal identifier ←
15:38:08 <dauwhe> ivan: is rob around?
Ivan Herman: is rob around? ←
15:38:46 <dauwhe> ivan: we discussed that three weeks ago that the model for selectors in open annotations document
Ivan Herman: we discussed that three weeks ago that the model for selectors in open annotations document ←
15:38:58 <dauwhe> ... is in fact a very rich and powerful collection of terms
... is in fact a very rich and powerful collection of terms ←
15:39:52 <tzviya> ivan: perhaps starting with position of open anno is a good
Ivan Herman: perhaps starting with position of open anno is a good [ Scribe Assist by Tzviya Siegman ] ←
15:39:59 <tzviya> ...not bound to one media type
Tzviya Siegman: ...not bound to one media type ←
15:40:34 <tzviya> ...the model is an abstract model, not described in terms of URI
Tzviya Siegman: ...the model is an abstract model, not described in terms of URI ←
15:40:46 <tzviya> ...perhaps it's possible to turn it into fragment ID
Tzviya Siegman: ...perhaps it's possible to turn it into fragment ID ←
15:41:15 <tzviya> ...then there was further discussion of when a frag ID is legal, etc
Tzviya Siegman: ...then there was further discussion of when a frag ID is legal, etc ←
15:41:26 <tzviya> Rob's position: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Apr/0054.html
Tzviya Siegman: Rob's position: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Apr/0054.html ←
15:44:24 <dauwhe> ivan: the fundamental issue is the following
Ivan Herman: the fundamental issue is the following ←
15:44:43 <dauwhe> ... a fragment identifier is bound to a specific media type
... a fragment identifier is bound to a specific media type ←
15:44:53 <dauwhe> ... you must register for each and every media type
... you must register for each and every media type ←
15:45:14 <dauwhe> ... so you can't just declare the OA model for the entire world
... so you can't just declare the OA model for the entire world ←
15:45:26 <dauwhe> ... if we go down that route and use the selector model
... if we go down that route and use the selector model ←
15:45:36 <dauwhe> ... the correct way is we define them as part of a URI
... the correct way is we define them as part of a URI ←
15:45:43 <Zakim> -lfowler
Zakim IRC Bot: -lfowler ←
15:45:50 <dauwhe> ... and then we register them for some of the media types for which they are useful
... and then we register them for some of the media types for which they are useful ←
15:45:56 <dauwhe> ... html, svg, etc.
... html, svg, etc. ←
15:46:01 <dauwhe> ... we can do that
... we can do that ←
15:46:15 <dauwhe> ... then it can be combined with other mechanisms as it's done with web packaging
... then it can be combined with other mechanisms as it's done with web packaging ←
15:46:36 <dauwhe> ... it's not clear to me who should work on this
... it's not clear to me who should work on this ←
15:46:57 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
Bill Kasdorf: q+ ←
15:47:01 <dauwhe> ... I have the impression that there's some sort of agreement that if we restrict by media types we can do this
... I have the impression that there's some sort of agreement that if we restrict by media types we can do this ←
15:47:17 <TimCole> q+
Timothy Cole: q+ ←
15:47:17 <dauwhe> ... azaroth, is this a fair summary?
... azaroth, is this a fair summary? ←
15:47:21 <dauwhe> azaroth: yes, that's it
Robert Sanderson: yes, that's it ←
15:47:23 <tzviya> ack Bill
Tzviya Siegman: ack Bill ←
15:47:35 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: keeping in mind the mission of the various groups
Bill Kasdorf: keeping in mind the mission of the various groups ←
15:47:47 <dauwhe> ... DPUB is expressing needs, not writing standards
... DPUB is expressing needs, not writing standards ←
15:48:04 <dauwhe> ... I have a strong interest in what Anno WG comes up with
... I have a strong interest in what Anno WG comes up with ←
15:48:27 <dauwhe> ... as far as DPUB, our job is to surface the issue and work with the appropriate WG
... as far as DPUB, our job is to surface the issue and work with the appropriate WG ←
15:48:48 <dauwhe> ... the OA model you recommended came out of a ???
... the OA model you recommended came out of a CG ←
15:48:55 <ivan> s/???/CG/
15:49:00 <dauwhe> ... I'm not trying to wash my hands of it
... I'm not trying to wash my hands of it ←
15:49:07 <dauwhe> ivan: I understand and agree
Ivan Herman: I understand and agree ←
15:49:11 <dauwhe> ... two comments
... two comments ←
15:49:24 <dauwhe> ... we already do this approach with structural semantics where we're involved with PF
... we already do this approach with structural semantics where we're involved with PF ←
15:49:41 <dauwhe> ... the other thing is that we need to recharter this group
... the other thing is that we need to recharter this group ←
15:49:53 <dauwhe> ... maybe we can then go beyond what we have here
... maybe we can then go beyond what we have here ←
15:50:04 <tzviya> ack Tim
Tzviya Siegman: ack Tim ←
15:50:06 <dauwhe> ... we'll see where it goes after september
... we'll see where it goes after september ←
15:50:14 <TimCole> http://www.w3.org/2015/04/22-annotation-minutes.html
Timothy Cole: http://www.w3.org/2015/04/22-annotation-minutes.html ←
15:50:19 <dauwhe> TimCole: it was discussed at Anno F2F a bit
Timothy Cole: it was discussed at Anno F2F a bit ←
15:50:31 <dauwhe> ... if this is important to DPUB
... if this is important to DPUB ←
15:50:39 <dauwhe> ... you need to push Anno WG
... you need to push Anno WG ←
15:50:47 <dauwhe> ... talked about in context of rangefinder
... talked about in context of rangefinder ←
15:50:54 <dauwhe> ... but it's not high on our priority list
... but it's not high on our priority list ←
15:51:07 <dauwhe> ... might be good to bring this up as collaborative
... might be good to bring this up as collaborative ←
15:51:17 <dauwhe> ... the anno model allows lots of selectors
... the anno model allows lots of selectors ←
15:51:24 <dauwhe> ... not all will work as fragment identifiers
... not all will work as fragment identifiers ←
15:51:45 <tzviya> q+
Tzviya Siegman: q+ ←
15:51:55 <dauwhe> ... also, EPUB already has something that kindof works
... also, EPUB already has something that kindof works ←
15:51:58 <tzviya> ack tzviya
Tzviya Siegman: ack tzviya ←
15:51:58 <dauwhe> ivan: I agree
Ivan Herman: I agree ←
15:52:20 <dauwhe> tzviya: we all are talking about epub cfi as if it solves the issues, but few people use it
Tzviya Siegman: we all are talking about epub cfi as if it solves the issues, but few people use it ←
15:52:28 <dauwhe> ... there are too many options
... there are too many options ←
15:52:42 <dauwhe> ... it's still a multiple choice question
... it's still a multiple choice question ←
15:53:03 <dauwhe> ... i can use xpointer, I can use CFI, but what happens with packaging and building systems and epubweb
... i can use xpointer, I can use CFI, but what happens with packaging and building systems and epubweb ←
15:53:07 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+
Bill Kasdorf: q+ ←
15:53:16 <dauwhe> ... those urls look like multi-part mime
... those urls look like multi-part mime ←
15:53:32 <dauwhe> ... so maybe we should get used to those semicolons in URI
... so maybe we should get used to those semicolons in URI ←
15:53:40 <dauwhe> ivan: for me, the packaged uris don't look that funny
Ivan Herman: for me, the packaged uris don't look that funny ←
15:53:55 <dauwhe> ... if you combine with packaging, what is done in the packaging spec is what should be done
... if you combine with packaging, what is done in the packaging spec is what should be done ←
15:54:03 <clapierre1> looks like Readium supports the EPUB CFI https://github.com/readium/readium-cfi-js
Charles LaPierre: looks like Readium supports the EPUB CFI https://github.com/readium/readium-cfi-js ←
15:54:06 <dauwhe> ... we are getting into technical discussions
... we are getting into technical discussions ←
15:54:11 <dauwhe> ... good topic for f2f
... good topic for f2f ←
15:54:25 <dauwhe> ... we should have clear and clean idea of pros and cons of CFI
... we should have clear and clean idea of pros and cons of CFI ←
15:54:33 <dauwhe> ... it's in the same space as the selectors
... it's in the same space as the selectors ←
15:54:41 <dauwhe> ... CFI provides you with a fragment ID
... CFI provides you with a fragment ID ←
15:54:58 <dauwhe> ... is CFI was completely useful then the package spec approach combined with CFI and we are done
... is CFI was completely useful then the package spec approach combined with CFI and we are done ←
15:55:15 <dauwhe> ... so we need to have a clear idea in NY whether CFI works, or it does not work
... so we need to have a clear idea in NY whether CFI works, or it does not work ←
15:55:25 <dauwhe> ... if it does not work, we need to look at alternatives
... if it does not work, we need to look at alternatives ←
15:55:29 <dauwhe> tzviya: we have five minutes
Tzviya Siegman: we have five minutes ←
15:55:31 <tzviya> ack Bill
Tzviya Siegman: ack Bill ←
15:56:03 <dauwhe> Bill_Kasdorf: don't want to conflict with anno
Bill Kasdorf: don't want to conflict with anno ←
15:56:10 <dauwhe> tzviya: update on HTML footnote element
Tzviya Siegman: update on HTML footnote element ←
15:56:12 <ivan> Topic: HTML5 + Footnote
15:56:28 <dauwhe> ... we followed offline with berjon and michaelTMsmith
... we followed offline with berjon and michaelTMsmith ←
15:56:50 <dauwhe> ... HTML will not have a formal proposal for an element, so we should pursue role with aria
... HTML will not have a formal proposal for an element, so we should pursue role with aria ←
15:57:07 <dauwhe> ... in the past, some roles have been promoted to element in HTML
... in the past, some roles have been promoted to element in HTML ←
15:57:14 <dauwhe> ... so we're moving forward with ARIA role
... so we're moving forward with ARIA role ←
15:57:19 <TimCole> q+
Timothy Cole: q+ ←
15:57:21 <dauwhe> ... maybe HTML will take it up in the future
... maybe HTML will take it up in the future ←
15:57:26 <tzviya> ack TimCole
Tzviya Siegman: ack TimCole ←
15:57:36 <dauwhe> TimCole: since most annos are third party
Timothy Cole: since most annos are third party ←
15:57:55 <dauwhe> ... there might be use cases where people mine footnotes as they mine annotations
... there might be use cases where people mine footnotes as they mine annotations ←
15:58:13 <dauwhe> ... we should see how footnotes might be transformed into annotations
... we should see how footnotes might be transformed into annotations ←
15:58:20 <dauwhe> ... we should keep that in mind
... we should keep that in mind ←
15:58:24 <dauwhe> tzviya: we agree
Tzviya Siegman: we agree ←
15:58:33 <dauwhe> ... footnotes are somewhere in the middle of content and annotations
... footnotes are somewhere in the middle of content and annotations ←
15:58:38 <azaroth> +1 :)
Robert Sanderson: +1 :) ←
15:58:53 <dauwhe> tzviya: let us know if you're coming to the f2f
Tzviya Siegman: let us know if you're coming to the f2f ←
15:59:05 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/May_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details
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16:00:24 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
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