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Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 15 September 2014

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E028503E8F0110B@SOM-MB.wiley.com
Seen
Ben Ko, Ben De Meester, Bert Bos, Bill Kasdorf, Brady Duga, Charles LaPierre, Dave Cramer, Deborah Kaplan, Frederick Hirsch, Ivan Herman, Karen Myers, Laura Fowler, Luc Audrain, Madi Solomon, Markus Gylling, Paul Belfanti, Peter Krautzberger, Phil Madans, Robert Sanderson, Shinyu Murakami, Thierry Michel, Timothy Cole, Tom De Nies, Tzviya Siegman, Unknown MikeMiller, Unknown Patrick_Pagano, Vladimir Levantovsky
Regrets
Markus Gylling, Brady Duga, Vladimir Levantovsky, Paul Belfanti, Thierry Michel, Unknown Laura, Phil Madans, Ben Ko, Dave Cramer
Chair
Tzviya Siegman
Scribe
Peter Krautzberger
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

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14:05:09 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 55 minutes

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14:05:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference
14:05:10 <trackbot> Date: 15 September 2014
14:05:20 <ivan> Chair: Tzviya
14:05:50 <ivan> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E028503E8F0110B@SOM-MB.wiley.com
14:06:07 <ivan> meeting agenda for 2014-09-15: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E028503E8F0110B@SOM-MB.wiley.com

Ivan Herman: meeting agenda for 2014-09-15: http://www.w3.org/mid/C274A5503C851E43A8ED400AC86E028503E8F0110B@SOM-MB.wiley.com

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14:58:55 <Zakim> +azaroth

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14:58:56 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?

Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here?

14:58:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, +1.240.421.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, +1.240.421.aaaa

14:58:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot

14:59:23 <azaroth> zakim, why didn't you recognize me last hour for LDP but do recognize me now?

Robert Sanderson: zakim, why didn't you recognize me last hour for LDP but do recognize me now?

14:59:23 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, azaroth.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, azaroth.

14:59:38 <Zakim> + +1.650.644.aabb

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14:59:53 <Zakim> + +1.217.244.aacc

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14:59:58 <azaroth> zakim, aaaa is MikeMiller

Robert Sanderson: zakim, aaaa is MikeMiller

14:59:58 <Zakim> +MikeMiller; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MikeMiller; got it

15:00:04 <Zakim> +Tzviya

Zakim IRC Bot: +Tzviya

15:00:13 <clapierre> Zakim, +1.650.644.aabb is me

Charles LaPierre: Zakim, +1.650.644.aabb is me

15:00:13 <Zakim> +clapierre; got it

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15:00:21 <Zakim> + +1.609.216.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.609.216.aadd

15:00:27 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-aix

Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-aix

15:00:27 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made

15:00:28 <Zakim> +Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan

15:00:28 <Zakim> + +1.617.439.aaee

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15:00:30 <Zakim> + +1.617.858.aaff

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15:00:35 <azaroth> zakim, aaaa is AH_Miller

Robert Sanderson: zakim, aaaa is AH_Miller

15:00:35 <Zakim> sorry, azaroth, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, azaroth, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

15:00:56 <pkra> Zakim aaff is pkra

Peter Krautzberger: Zakim aaff is pkra

15:01:06 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers

Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen_Myers

15:01:12 <ivan> zakim, aaff is pkra

Ivan Herman: zakim, aaff is pkra

15:01:12 <Zakim> +pkra; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +pkra; got it

15:01:39 <ivan> zakim, who is here?

Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here?

15:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, +1.217.244.aacc, Tzviya, +1.609.216.aadd, +1.617.439.aaee, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, +1.217.244.aacc, Tzviya, +1.609.216.aadd, +1.617.439.aaee, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers

15:01:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam, astearns_, plinss, trackbot

15:01:47 <tzviya> Regrets: Markus, Brady, Vlad, Paul, Thierry, Laura, PhilM, BenKo, dauwhe

Scribe problem: the name 'Laura' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Laura Dawson Laura Fowler . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

15:01:50 <dkaplan3> zakim, aaee is me

Deborah Kaplan: zakim, aaee is me

15:01:50 <Zakim> +dkaplan3; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +dkaplan3; got it

15:02:31 <Zakim> + +33.1.41.23.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.1.41.23.aagg

15:02:34 <ivan> zakim,  aadd is Laura

Ivan Herman: zakim, aadd is Laura

15:02:34 <Zakim> +Laura; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Laura; got it

15:02:47 <ivan> zakim, aacc is TimCole

Ivan Herman: zakim, aacc is TimCole

15:02:47 <Zakim> +TimCole; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TimCole; got it

15:02:59 <Zakim> + +1.734.904.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.734.904.aahh

15:03:03 <Luc> aagg is Luc

Luc Audrain: aagg is Luc

15:03:13 <Zakim> +[GVoice]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice]

15:03:20 <ivan> zakim, Laura is Laura_Fowler

Ivan Herman: zakim, Laura is Laura_Fowler

15:03:22 <Zakim> +Laura_Fowler; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Laura_Fowler; got it

15:03:22 <azaroth> zakim, aagg is Luc

Robert Sanderson: zakim, aagg is Luc

15:03:23 <Zakim> +Luc; got it

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15:03:31 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?

Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here?

15:03:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice]

15:03:33 <ivan> zakim, who is here?

Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here?

15:03:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam,

15:03:34 <Zakim> ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot

15:03:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, +1.734.904.aahh, [GVoice]

15:03:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Neha, murakami, Bill_Kasdorf, Luc, bjdmeest, fjh, TimCole, dkaplan3, tzviya, azaroth, clapierre, AH_Miller, Akshat_Joshi, pkra, Zakim, RRSAgent, ivan, Karen, liam,

15:03:38 <Zakim> ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... astearns_, plinss, trackbot

15:03:40 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:03:41 <fjh> zakim, ipcaller is me

Frederick Hirsch: zakim, ipcaller is me

15:03:42 <Zakim> +Ruben

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ruben

15:03:42 <Zakim> +fjh; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +fjh; got it

15:03:52 <ivan> zakim, aahh is Bill_Kasdorf

Ivan Herman: zakim, aahh is Bill_Kasdorf

15:03:53 <Zakim> +Bill_Kasdorf; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Bill_Kasdorf; got it

15:04:00 <bjdmeest> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Ben De Meester: Zakim, who is on the phone?

15:04:00 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

15:04:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, Bill_Kasdorf, [GVoice], Ruben, fjh, ??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, MikeMiller, clapierre, TimCole, Tzviya, Laura_Fowler, dkaplan3, Ivan, pkra, Karen_Myers, Luc, Bill_Kasdorf, [GVoice], Ruben, fjh, ??P19

15:04:07 <bjdmeest> Zakim, Ruben is me

Ben De Meester: Zakim, Ruben is me

15:04:07 <Zakim> +bjdmeest; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bjdmeest; got it

15:04:14 <bjdmeest> Zakim, mute me

Ben De Meester: Zakim, mute me

15:04:14 <Zakim> bjdmeest should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bjdmeest should now be muted

15:04:20 <murakami> zakim, ??P19 is me

Shinyu Murakami: zakim, ??P19 is me

15:04:20 <Zakim> +murakami; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +murakami; got it

15:05:00 <TomDN> Zakim, TomDN is with bjdmeest

Tom De Nies: Zakim, TomDN is with bjdmeest

15:05:00 <Zakim> +TomDN; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TomDN; got it

15:05:03 <ivan> scribenick: pkra

(Scribe set to Peter Krautzberger)

15:05:14 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-dpub-minutes.html

Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-dpub-minutes.html

15:05:14 <Zakim> + +1.646.336.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.646.336.aaii

15:05:17 <pkra> tzviya: review of last week's minutes.

Tzviya Siegman: review of last week's minutes.

15:05:29 <pkra> ... approved.

... approved.

15:05:38 <TomDN> Zakim, unmute bjdmeest

Tom De Nies: Zakim, unmute bjdmeest

15:05:38 <Zakim> bjdmeest should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bjdmeest should no longer be muted

15:06:05 <pkra> ???: new to the group: Ben

Tom De Nies: new to the group: Ben

15:06:18 <TomDN> s/???/TomDN
15:06:25 <pkra> Ben: starting PhD at Multimedia Lab.

Ben De Meester: starting PhD at Multimedia Lab.

15:06:32 <Zakim> +Bert

Zakim IRC Bot: +Bert

15:06:37 <pkra> ... research in digital publishing

... research in digital publishing

15:06:52 <Zakim> +madi

Zakim IRC Bot: +madi

15:06:52 <TomDN> Zakim, mute bjdmeest

Tom De Nies: Zakim, mute bjdmeest

15:06:52 <Zakim> bjdmeest should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bjdmeest should now be muted

15:07:01 <TomDN> s/Ben/bjdmeest
15:07:24 <pkra> thx.

thx.

15:07:30 <tzviya> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140915T11&p1=179

Tzviya Siegman: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140915T11&p1=179

15:07:34 <ivan> Topic: early draft on content and markup

1. early draft on content and markup

15:07:44 <tzviya> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-content-and-markup

Tzviya Siegman: https://github.com/w3c/dpub-content-and-markup

15:07:45 <pkra> tzviya: first agenda item: early draft on content & markup

Tzviya Siegman: first agenda item: early draft on content & markup

15:08:26 <pkra> ... we're interested in feedback about the direction of this document.

... we're interested in feedback about the direction of this document.

15:08:39 <ivan> http://w3c.github.io/dpub-content-and-markup/

Ivan Herman: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-content-and-markup/

15:08:49 <pkra> ... especially from PF since contact has been limited

... especially from PF since contact has been limited

15:09:05 <pkra> ivan: is it possible to give a quick overview?

Ivan Herman: is it possible to give a quick overview?

15:09:35 <pkra> tzviya: introducing a vocabulary into aria to have a publishing vocabulary introduced.

Tzviya Siegman: introducing a vocabulary into aria to have a publishing vocabulary introduced.

15:09:48 <pkra> ... to bring semantics from publishing.

... to bring semantics from publishing.

15:10:06 <pkra> ... helps AT publishing specifics semantics and help user agents to make use of them.

... helps AT publishing specifics semantics and help user agents to make use of them.

15:10:17 <pkra> ... maybe people didn't have enough time to digest.

... maybe people didn't have enough time to digest.

15:10:18 <pkra> ...

...

15:10:25 <pkra> ... perhaps move to next week?

... perhaps move to next week?

15:10:31 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:10:39 <tzviya> zck ivan

Tzviya Siegman: zck ivan

15:10:45 <ivan> ack ivan

Ivan Herman: ivan ivan

15:10:52 <tzviya> s/ack/ivan
15:11:01 <pkra> ivan: what I miss a little bit is how exactly the aria attr. will be used

Ivan Herman: what I miss a little bit is how exactly the aria attr. will be used

15:11:12 <pkra> ... how would the terms be defined and by whom

... how would the terms be defined and by whom

15:11:19 <Zakim> +??P25

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25

15:11:34 <pkra> tzviya: I was hoping Janina from PF group could comment on that.

Tzviya Siegman: I was hoping Janina from PF group could comment on that.

15:12:25 <pkra> ... next step: build it out, work more with PF to have more to present to DPUB IG

... next step: build it out, work more with PF to have more to present to DPUB IG

15:12:44 <pkra> ivan: will be exciting to get this developed further

Ivan Herman: will be exciting to get this developed further

15:12:58 <Karen> Guest today is Pat Pagano, Director, Digital Content Operations

Karen Myers: Guest today is Pat Pagano, Director, Digital Content Operations

15:12:59 <pkra> tzviya: any other comments?

Tzviya Siegman: any other comments?

15:13:04 <dkaplan3> thanks for putting this together, tzviya

Deborah Kaplan: thanks for putting this together, tzviya

15:13:07 <Karen> from Barnes & Noble

Karen Myers: from Barnes & Noble

15:13:11 <pkra> tzviya: main topic: TPAC

Tzviya Siegman: main topic: TPAC

15:13:22 <ivan> zakim, ??P5 is Patrick_Pagano

Ivan Herman: zakim, ??P5 is Patrick_Pagano

15:13:22 <Zakim> I already had ??P5 as +35121723aacc, ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P5 as +35121723aacc, ivan

15:13:24 <pkra> ... several suggestions for meetings with other groups and internal meetings

... several suggestions for meetings with other groups and internal meetings

15:13:40 <ivan> zakim, ??P25 is Patrick_Pagano

Ivan Herman: zakim, ??P25 is Patrick_Pagano

15:13:40 <Zakim> +Patrick_Pagano; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Patrick_Pagano; got it

15:13:41 <pkra> ... a) PF on role attr

... a) PF on role attr

15:13:51 <pkra> ... b) HTML5 group on incorporating role

... b) HTML5 group on incorporating role

15:13:59 <pkra> ... c) session to talk about a11y

... c) session to talk about a11y

15:14:07 <pkra> ... d) with CSS to talk about pagination

... d) with CSS to talk about pagination

15:14:31 <pkra> ... e) on i18n / RTL / bidi

... e) on i18n / RTL / bidi

15:14:37 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:14:41 <pkra> ... anything missing?

... anything missing?

15:14:51 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

15:15:30 <ivan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP

Ivan Herman: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP

15:15:33 <dkaplan3> q+

Deborah Kaplan: q+

15:15:58 <pkra> ivan: check list of registered participants

Ivan Herman: check list of registered participants

15:16:09 <pkra> ... not sure if you can't or intend to come.

... not sure if you can't or intend to come.

15:16:22 <pkra> ... we have to know if we have enough people for all task forces

... we have to know if we have enough people for all task forces

15:16:39 <pkra> ... we should look at individual task forces to see how we can work around this.

... we should look at individual task forces to see how we can work around this.

15:16:48 <pkra> madi: for Pearson, I'll be there and others from Pearson

Madi Solomon: for Pearson, I'll be there and others from Pearson

15:16:53 <clapierre> I will be there, I just haven't registered yet.

Charles LaPierre: I will be there, I just haven't registered yet.

15:17:19 <pkra> ... but I'm not on the list.

... but I'm not on the list.

15:17:20 <tzviya> ack dkaplan3

Tzviya Siegman: ack dkaplan3

15:17:25 <pkra> tzviya: same for me.

Tzviya Siegman: same for me.

15:17:37 <Karen> Here is link to registration for Technical Plenary: http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

Karen Myers: Here is link to registration for Technical Plenary: http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

15:17:49 <Karen> +1 observe other groups

Karen Myers: +1 observe other groups

15:18:02 <pkra> ???: besides our meeting, are there any other open meetings DPUB IG members should plan to attend?

???: besides our meeting, are there any other open meetings DPUB IG members should plan to attend?

15:18:13 <Bert> (I will be at TPAC and very interested in discussing CSS & pagination, during CSS meeting, during DPub meeting, or both.)

Bert Bos: (I will be at TPAC and very interested in discussing CSS & pagination, during CSS meeting, during DPub meeting, or both.)

15:18:23 <Karen> Note: Advance, online registration closes 8 October

Scribe problem: the name 'Note' does not match any of the 82 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: ASOK BANDYOPADHYAY Akshat Joshi Alan Tam Alan Stearns Ayla Stein Ben Ko Ben De Meester Bert Bos Bill Kasdorf Brady Duga Casey Dougherty Charles LaPierre Daniel Schwabe Dave Cramer David Stroup David Singer Deborah Kaplan Dmitry Shkolnik Doug Schepers Edward O'Connor Erik Mannens Frank Liu Frederick Hirsch George Kerscher George Walkley Graham Bell Hajar Ghaem Sigarchian Heather Reid Ivan Herman Jiphun Satapathy Jirka Kosek Julie Morris Jun Fujisawa Karen Myers Kenny Zhang Koji Ishii Laura Dawson Laura Fowler Liam Quin Livio Mondini Luc Audrain Madi Solomon Mahesh Kulkarni Manuel Rego Casasnovas Markku Hakkinen Markus Gylling Michael Miller Miel Vander Sande Mohamed ZERGAOUI Naitik Tyagi Nishit Jain Paolo Ciccarese Paul Belfanti Peter Linss Peter Krautzberger Phil Madans Pierre Danet Prashant Prashant Priyanka Malik Richard Schwerdtfeger Robert Sanderson Robin Berjon Sharad Garg Shinyu Murakami Somnath Chandra Suzanne Taylor Swaran Lata Thierry Michel Tim Clark Timothy Cole Tom Burns Tom Habing Tom De Nies Tyng-Ruey Chuang Tzviya Siegman Vincent Gros Vlad Stirbu Vladimir Levantovsky akiyoshi ibuki Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Note: Advance, online registration closes 8 October [ Scribe Assist by Karen Myers ]

15:18:27 <pkra> ivan: you can attend every group as an observer.

Ivan Herman: you can attend every group as an observer.

15:18:33 <pkra> ... you should say that on registration.

... you should say that on registration.

15:18:45 <pkra> ... and please do, so that organizers can plan (room size etc)

... and please do, so that organizers can plan (room size etc)

15:19:04 <pkra> ???: aside from ad-hoc meetings and our internal ones, are there any sessions we SHOULD observe

Deborah Kaplan: aside from ad-hoc meetings and our internal ones, are there any sessions we SHOULD observe

15:19:18 <pkra> ... do we know when ad-hoc meetings are likely to be?

... do we know when ad-hoc meetings are likely to be?

15:19:35 <ivan> s/???/dkaplan3/
15:19:46 <pkra> ... I see on calendar 11--15 booked for ad-hoc meetings each day.

... I see on calendar 11--15 booked for ad-hoc meetings each day.

15:20:27 <pkra> ... would ad-hoc meetings all into "our" meetings time?

... would ad-hoc meetings all into "our" meetings time?

15:20:36 <pkra> ivan: not clear. We should try to fit it in our slots.

Ivan Herman: not clear. We should try to fit it in our slots.

15:20:43 <pkra> ... then talk to staff contacts of other groups.

... then talk to staff contacts of other groups.

15:20:47 <Karen> q+

Karen Myers: q+

15:20:54 <pkra> ... then figure out how to organize that.

... then figure out how to organize that.

15:21:27 <ivan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP

Ivan Herman: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DP

15:21:34 <pkra> ... I'm worried: some people are registered and not on the list.

... I'm worried: some people are registered and not on the list.

15:21:43 <pkra> ... who else has registered but is not on the previous link?

... who else has registered but is not on the previous link?

15:22:20 <pkra> ???: is there a difference between registering for TPAC and attending group meetings?

???: is there a difference between registering for TPAC and attending group meetings?

15:22:32 <pkra> ivan: ok, did people not list groups?

Ivan Herman: ok, did people not list groups?

15:22:51 <pkra> ... during registration, you're asked which groups to attend -- did you?

... during registration, you're asked which groups to attend -- did you?

15:22:57 <pkra> various: yes we did.

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15:23:08 <pkra> ivan: mpf.

Ivan Herman: mpf.

15:23:19 <pkra> (couldn't resist)

(couldn't resist)

15:24:09 <pkra> ivan: examples to look into: madi, tzviya

Ivan Herman: examples to look into: madi, tzviya

15:25:06 <pkra> ivan: Bill_Kasdorf are you affected?

Ivan Herman: Bill_Kasdorf are you affected?

15:25:45 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: wasn't planning. metadata on the agenda. question if metadata is a good fit and if Frankfurt might not be a better opportunity.

Bill Kasdorf: wasn't planning. metadata on the agenda. question if metadata is a good fit and if Frankfurt might not be a better opportunity.

15:25:55 <pkra> tzviya: point of this item to figure this out.

Tzviya Siegman: point of this item to figure this out.

15:26:35 <pkra> ivan: chicken&egg problem. TPAC could be a more focused opportunity

Ivan Herman: chicken&egg problem. TPAC could be a more focused opportunity

15:26:48 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: is this Thursday?

Bill Kasdorf: is this Thursday?

15:26:51 <TimCole> I wouId like to see a metadata session some time on Thursday

Timothy Cole: I wouId like to see a metadata session some time on Thursday

15:26:55 <pkra> tzviya: Thur&Fri.

Tzviya Siegman: Thur&Fri.

15:27:09 <Karen> Digital Publishing IG meetings at TPAC on 30 and 31 October in Santa Clara

Karen Myers: Digital Publishing IG meetings at TPAC on 30 and 31 October in Santa Clara

15:27:12 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: still pretty full list

Bill Kasdorf: still pretty full list

15:27:20 <pkra> tzviya: let's discuss this on TF meeting tomorrow.

Tzviya Siegman: let's discuss this on TF meeting tomorrow.

15:27:37 <pkra> tzviya: Dave will be attending.

Tzviya Siegman: Dave will be attending.

15:27:50 <pkra> ivan: but Dave not on the list.

Ivan Herman: but Dave not on the list.

15:28:16 <pkra> Luc: ppl in France not planning to attend.

Luc Audrain: ppl in France not planning to attend.

15:28:26 <Karen> [from Hachette]

Karen Myers: [from Hachette]

15:29:07 <pkra> tzviya: first pending additional item: pagination.

Tzviya Siegman: first pending additional item: pagination.

15:29:20 <pkra> ... sharing/working on samples.

... sharing/working on samples.

15:29:43 <pkra> ... in particular, STEM => will be in touch with pkra / STEM TF

... in particular, STEM => will be in touch with pkra / STEM TF

15:30:24 <pkra> ... item: a11y.

... item: a11y.

15:30:35 <pkra> ... conversation with PF on extending role

... conversation with PF on extending role

15:30:41 <pkra> ... but also: personalization

... but also: personalization

15:30:49 <pkra> ... bringing a11y under the umbrella for personalization

... bringing a11y under the umbrella for personalization

15:31:20 <pkra> ... since we went on different directions, this might be useful to unify

... since we went on different directions, this might be useful to unify

15:31:34 <pkra> ... we should consider document for user cases on personalization, in particular a11y

... we should consider document for user cases on personalization, in particular a11y

15:31:47 <dkaplan3> q+

Deborah Kaplan: q+

15:31:48 <pkra> ... very interesrted to get feedback on this.

... very interesrted to get feedback on this.

15:32:01 <pkra> especially from people involved with apip (?)

especially from people involved with apip (?)

15:32:04 <ivan> q-

Ivan Herman: q-

15:32:33 <ivan> ack dkaplan3

Ivan Herman: ack dkaplan3

15:32:44 <pkra> ???: personalization more generally of interest?

Charles LaPierre: personalization more generally of interest?

15:32:59 <pkra> tzviya: we were trying to push a11y TF in one direction.

Tzviya Siegman: we were trying to push a11y TF in one direction.

15:33:08 <tzviya> http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Accessibility_and_Personalization

Tzviya Siegman: http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/UseCase_Directory#Accessibility_and_Personalization

15:33:14 <pkra> ... more areas to explore (e.g., SVG)

... more areas to explore (e.g., SVG)

15:33:23 <ivan> s/???/clapierre
15:33:34 <pkra> ... as we collected more use cases, they ended up under personalization

... as we collected more use cases, they ended up under personalization

15:33:55 <pkra> ... so it made sense to have this generally.

... so it made sense to have this generally.

15:34:36 <pkra> ... is there interest for clapierre and dkaplan3 (?) to draft something?

... is there interest for clapierre and dkaplan3 (?) to draft something?

15:34:58 <pkra> ... is it possible to start something ~Oct 13?

... is it possible to start something ~Oct 13?

15:35:08 <pkra> ... what else would you need from DPUB people?

... what else would you need from DPUB people?

15:35:25 <pkra> clapierre: connect key players in a call. First attempt last week failed.

Charles LaPierre: connect key players in a call. First attempt last week failed.

15:35:34 <pkra> tzviya: who do you consider key?

Tzviya Siegman: who do you consider key?

15:35:57 <pkra> clapierre: Mike, Ivan, Thierry, Markus, Deborah, myself

Charles LaPierre: Mike, Ivan, Thierry, Markus, Deborah, myself

15:36:15 <pkra> tzviya: suggest start offline with Deborah.

Tzviya Siegman: suggest start offline with Deborah.

15:36:28 <pkra> ... need someone from validation.

... need someone from validation.

15:36:34 <pkra> ... but too early right now.

... but too early right now.

15:36:53 <pkra> clapierre: correction: Mia

Charles LaPierre: correction: Mia

15:36:56 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:37:07 <pkra> tzviya: get started on the HTML page

Tzviya Siegman: get started on the HTML page

15:37:20 <pkra> ... the get me and ivan together, then Markus to connect to the right people.

... the get me and ivan together, then Markus to connect to the right people.

15:37:28 <pkra> clapierre: sounds good.

Charles LaPierre: sounds good.

15:37:45 <pkra> tzviya: missing items: talked to pkra on STEM.

Tzviya Siegman: missing items: talked to pkra on STEM.

15:38:33 <tzviya> <pkra> STEM update - not as far along as had hoped, interviews are in progress

Tzviya Siegman: <pkra> STEM update - not as far along as had hoped, interviews are in progress

15:39:18 <tzviya> pkra: summaries are coming shortly,

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15:39:34 <Zakim> - +1.646.336.aaii

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15:40:06 <tzviya> pkra: should have something in writing by the end of the September

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15:41:30 <pkra> ivan: brings up issue of remote attendance.

Ivan Herman: brings up issue of remote attendance.

15:41:40 <pkra> ... should we do that? (Needs heads up to organize tech)

... should we do that? (Needs heads up to organize tech)

15:41:48 <clapierre> q+

Charles LaPierre: q+

15:42:10 <pkra> ... pkra could you join remotely?

... pkra could you join remotely?

15:42:14 <tzviya> ack dkaplan

Tzviya Siegman: ack dkaplan

15:42:15 <pkra> pkra: yes.

Peter Krautzberger: yes.

15:42:18 <ivan> q-

Ivan Herman: q-

15:42:34 <tzviya> ack Karen

Tzviya Siegman: ack Karen

15:43:08 <pkra> Karen: point ppl to sign up for other groups to observe.

Karen Myers: point ppl to sign up for other groups to observe.

15:43:14 <pkra> ... wanted to make sure ppl are aware.

... wanted to make sure ppl are aware.

15:43:19 <Luc> If joining by call is avalable I would try though time shift isn't easy

Luc Audrain: If joining by call is avalable I would try though time shift isn't easy

15:43:21 <pkra> tzviya: thanks. In particular, annotation.

Tzviya Siegman: thanks. In particular, annotation.

15:43:27 <tzviya> ack clapierre

Tzviya Siegman: ack clapierre

15:43:38 <bjdmeest> I'm in the Annotation WG as well

Ben De Meester: I'm in the Annotation WG as well

15:44:01 <pkra> clapierre: to earlier item: Oct 13 actually won't work for me. Oct 20 better.

Charles LaPierre: to earlier item: Oct 13 actually won't work for me. Oct 20 better.

15:44:07 <pkra> tzviya: ok, let's work this out offline.

Tzviya Siegman: ok, let's work this out offline.

15:44:44 <pkra> tzviya: back to STEM at TPAC .

Tzviya Siegman: back to STEM at TPAC .

15:45:01 <pkra> ivan: I'll look into remote access.

Ivan Herman: I'll look into remote access.

15:45:55 <pkra> tzviya: should we add STEM to agenda and make it work timezone wise?

Tzviya Siegman: should we add STEM to agenda and make it work timezone wise?

15:45:58 <pkra> ivan: yes.

Ivan Herman: yes.

15:46:33 <pkra> tzviya: what else should we focus on? Few chances for F2F.

Tzviya Siegman: what else should we focus on? Few chances for F2F.

15:47:01 <pkra> ivan: let's spend time on discussing goals for 2015.

Ivan Herman: let's spend time on discussing goals for 2015.

15:47:18 <Karen> +1 planning session

Karen Myers: +1 planning session

15:47:19 <pkra> tzviya: agreed.

Tzviya Siegman: agreed.

15:48:05 <Karen> q+

Karen Myers: q+

15:48:05 <pkra> Bill_Kasdorf: Great addition. I will try harder to make it.

Bill Kasdorf: Great addition. I will try harder to make it.

15:48:24 <pkra> Karen: also inviting guests to observe at technical plenary

Karen Myers: also inviting guests to observe at technical plenary

15:48:54 <pkra> tzviya: that was all we had for this on agenda.

Tzviya Siegman: that was all we had for this on agenda.

15:49:02 <pkra> ... please be in touch with other topics.

... please be in touch with other topics.

15:49:11 <pkra> ... anything else?

... anything else?

15:49:22 <pkra> ... ok, then intros.

... ok, then intros.

15:49:45 <pkra> ???: Nook media. Before that ebook production.

Patrick Pagano, Nook: Nook media. Before that ebook production.

15:49:58 <pkra> ... now looking at epub3, new devices and fitting in old devices.

... now looking at epub3, new devices and fitting in old devices.

15:50:10 <Karen> s/???/Patrick Pagano, Nook/Barnes & Noble
15:50:16 <pkra> ... very keen to catch up and get active on the group.

... very keen to catch up and get active on the group.

15:50:20 <pkra> thx Karen.

thx Karen.

15:50:30 <pkra> tzviya: thanks everybody!

Tzviya Siegman: thanks everybody!

15:50:47 <pkra> ... one last question: dress code for W3C gala?

... one last question: dress code for W3C gala?

15:50:54 <pkra> Karen: business casual.

Karen Myers: business casual.

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15:57:39 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes

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15:58:10 <ivan> trackbot, end telcon

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15:58:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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