Digital Publishing Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 10 March 2014

Present
Alan Stearns, Bert Bos, Bill Kasdorf, Brady Duga, Casey Dougherty, Dave Cramer, Frederick Hirsch, Gerardo Capiel, Ivan Herman, Karen Myers, Laura Fowler, Liza Daly, Luc Audrain, Madi Solomon, Markus Gylling, Phil Madans, Robert Sanderson, Thierry Michel, Tzviya Siegman, Julie Morris, Vladimir Levantovsky
Regrets
Frederick Hirsch
Scribe
Tzviya Siegman
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

Topics


Ivan Herman: karen, you can dial in now

14:05:06 <ivan> oops, wrong channel

Ivan Herman: oops, wrong channel

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14:57:59 <mgylling> Zakim, ??P10 is me

Markus Gylling: Zakim, ??P10 is me

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14:58:06 <Vlad> zakim, IPcaller is me

Vladimir Levantovsky: zakim, IPcaller is me

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14:58:09 <mgylling> Zakim, at least I hope so

Markus Gylling: Zakim, at least I hope so

14:58:09 <Zakim> I don't understand 'at least I hope so', mgylling

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14:58:44 <dauwhe__> Zakim, aacc is dauwhe

Dave Cramer: Zakim, aacc is dauwhe

14:58:44 <Zakim> +dauwhe; got it

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14:58:59 <Zakim> +Tzviya

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15:00:01 <Zakim> +Stearns

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15:00:21 <gcapiel> Zakim, ??P24 is me

Gerardo Capiel: Zakim, ??P24 is me

15:00:21 <Zakim> +gcapiel; got it

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15:00:51 <tzviya> scribe: tzviya

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15:00:59 <Zakim> + +1.505.665.aadd

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15:01:35 <Zakim> + +1.617.453.aaee

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15:01:45 <liza> zakim, aaee is me

Liza Daly: zakim, aaee is me

15:01:45 <Zakim> +liza; got it

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15:01:47 <Zakim> + +1.734.904.aaff

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15:01:58 <azaroth> zakim, who is here

Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here

15:02:00 <Zakim> +Ivan

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15:02:00 <Zakim> azaroth, you need to end that query with '?'

Zakim IRC Bot: azaroth, you need to end that query with '?'

15:02:03 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?

Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here?

15:02:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.646.336.aaaa, Vlad, mgylling, +1.212.364.aabb, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, +1.505.665.aadd, liza, +1.734.904.aaff, Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.646.336.aaaa, Vlad, mgylling, +1.212.364.aabb, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, +1.505.665.aadd, liza, +1.734.904.aaff, Ivan

15:02:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bill_Kasdorf, azaroth, benjaminsko, liza, gcapiel, tzviya, Julie__BISG, Vlad, philm, mgylling, dauwhe__, Zakim, RRSAgent, astearns_, plinss, ivan, trackbot, liam

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Bill_Kasdorf, azaroth, benjaminsko, liza, gcapiel, tzviya, Julie__BISG, Vlad, philm, mgylling, dauwhe__, Zakim, RRSAgent, astearns_, plinss, ivan, trackbot, liam

15:02:11 <azaroth> zakim, aadd is me

Robert Sanderson: zakim, aadd is me

15:02:11 <Zakim> +azaroth; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +azaroth; got it

15:02:13 <Zakim> +[GVoice]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice]

15:02:29 <Zakim> +Bert

Zakim IRC Bot: +Bert

15:02:39 <dauwhe__> Zakim, aabb is philm

Dave Cramer: Zakim, aabb is philm

15:02:39 <Zakim> +philm; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +philm; got it

15:02:48 <Zakim> + +1.303.475.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.303.475.aagg

15:03:19 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is Julie__BISG

Ivan Herman: zakim, aaaa is Julie__BISG

15:03:19 <Zakim> +Julie__BISG; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Julie__BISG; got it

15:03:21 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?

Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here?

15:03:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Julie__BISG, Vlad, mgylling, philm, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, azaroth, liza, +1.734.904.aaff, Ivan, [GVoice], Bert, +1.303.475.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Julie__BISG, Vlad, mgylling, philm, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, azaroth, liza, +1.734.904.aaff, Ivan, [GVoice], Bert, +1.303.475.aagg

15:03:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, Bert, Bill_Kasdorf, azaroth, benjaminsko, liza, gcapiel, tzviya, Julie__BISG, Vlad, philm, mgylling, dauwhe__, Zakim, RRSAgent, astearns_, plinss, ivan, trackbot,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see fjh, Bert, Bill_Kasdorf, azaroth, benjaminsko, liza, gcapiel, tzviya, Julie__BISG, Vlad, philm, mgylling, dauwhe__, Zakim, RRSAgent, astearns_, plinss, ivan, trackbot,

15:03:25 <Zakim> ... liam

Zakim IRC Bot: ... liam

15:03:25 <fjh> Regrets: Frederick_Hirsch
15:03:38 <ivan> zakim, aagg is Casey

Ivan Herman: zakim, aagg is Casey

15:03:38 <Zakim> +Casey; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Casey; got it

15:03:53 <ivan> zakim, aaff is Bill_Kasdorf

Ivan Herman: zakim, aaff is Bill_Kasdorf

15:03:53 <Zakim> +Bill_Kasdorf; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Bill_Kasdorf; got it

15:03:58 <ivan> zakim, who is here?

Ivan Herman: zakim, who is here?

15:03:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Julie__BISG, Vlad, mgylling, philm, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, azaroth, liza, Bill_Kasdorf, Ivan, [GVoice], Bert, Casey

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Julie__BISG, Vlad, mgylling, philm, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, azaroth, liza, Bill_Kasdorf, Ivan, [GVoice], Bert, Casey

15:03:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see fjh, Bert, Bill_Kasdorf, azaroth, benjaminsko, liza, gcapiel, tzviya, Julie__BISG, Vlad, philm, mgylling, dauwhe__, Zakim, RRSAgent, astearns_, plinss, ivan, trackbot,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see fjh, Bert, Bill_Kasdorf, azaroth, benjaminsko, liza, gcapiel, tzviya, Julie__BISG, Vlad, philm, mgylling, dauwhe__, Zakim, RRSAgent, astearns_, plinss, ivan, trackbot,

15:04:01 <Zakim> ... liam

Zakim IRC Bot: ... liam

15:04:29 <Zakim> +??P16

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15:04:31 <tzviya> markus: minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/dpub-IG-minutes/2014-03-03.html

Markus Gylling: minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/dpub-IG-minutes/2014-03-03.html

15:04:39 <tzviya> approved

approved

15:05:15 <tzviya> markus: ask generally about annotations publication status?

Markus Gylling: ask generally about annotations publication status?

15:05:18 <Zakim> + +1.609.216.aahh

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15:05:37 <tzviya> ivan: it should publish on thursday, would be good if one of chairs bloged about it

Ivan Herman: it should publish on thursday, would be good if one of chairs bloged about it

15:05:45 <tzviya> markus: yes, we will

Markus Gylling: yes, we will

15:06:12 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers

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15:06:28 <ivan> zakim, aaii is Luc

Ivan Herman: zakim, aaii is Luc

15:06:28 <Zakim> +Luc; got it

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15:06:57 <tzviya> Dauwhe: can write about latinreq as well

Dave Cramer: can write about latinreq as well

15:07:58 <mgylling> zakim, aahh is Laura Fowler

Markus Gylling: zakim, aahh is Laura Fowler

15:07:59 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aahh is Laura Fowler', mgylling

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'aahh is Laura Fowler', mgylling

15:08:12 <ivan> zakim, aahh is laura

Ivan Herman: zakim, aahh is laura

15:08:12 <Zakim> +laura; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laura; got it

15:08:40 <Zakim> +duga

Zakim IRC Bot: +duga

15:08:46 <dauwhe__> q+

Dave Cramer: q+

15:08:47 <tzviya> markus: potential for F2F in California in Oct 27 - 31

Markus Gylling: potential for F2F in California in Oct 27 - 31

15:09:23 <tzviya> ...it will not be the whole week, just beginning or end of week

...it will not be the whole week, just beginning or end of week

15:09:41 <tzviya> ...we must officially register with W3C whether we want to schedule time at TPAC

...we must officially register with W3C whether we want to schedule time at TPAC

15:10:21 <tzviya> Thierry: perhaps open poll whether this is mon/tue or Thu/Fri

Thierry Michel: perhaps open poll whether this is mon/tue or Thu/Fri

15:10:33 <tzviya> Action: Thierry open poll

ACTION: Thierry open poll

15:10:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Open poll [on Thierry Michel - due 2014-03-17].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-17 - Open poll [on Thierry Michel - due 2014-03-17].

15:10:45 <dauwhe__> q-

Dave Cramer: q-

15:11:02 <tzviya> markus: annotation and latinreq moving to first draft and in good state

Markus Gylling: annotation and latinreq moving to first draft and in good state

15:11:24 <tzviya> ...we missed out on talking about Math and STEM with Jean

...we missed out on talking about Math and STEM with Jean

15:11:43 <tzviya> ...Jean has had to leave the group at least temporarily

...Jean has had to leave the group at least temporarily

15:11:49 <karen> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

Karen Myers: http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

15:11:56 <tzviya> ...so, the group is without a lead for now

...so, the group is without a lead for now

15:12:25 <tzviya> ...We are now looking at the groups to see how we can move forward remaining TFs

...We are now looking at the groups to see how we can move forward remaining TFs

15:12:36 <tzviya> ...There are 2 problems with our groups

...There are 2 problems with our groups

15:12:44 <tzviya> ...not enough resources (yet)

...not enough resources (yet)

15:13:11 <tzviya> ...and the organization of TFs might not be very good

...and the organization of TFs might not be very good

15:13:29 <tzviya> ...what can we do to make sure we get moving with other groups?

...what can we do to make sure we get moving with other groups?

15:14:03 <tzviya> ...suggestion is to look at entries and assess how to move things forward

...suggestion is to look at entries and assess how to move things forward

15:14:04 <mgylling> q?

Markus Gylling: q?

15:14:30 <ivan> -> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Task_Forces list of task forces

Ivan Herman: -> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Task_Forces list of task forces

15:14:58 <tzviya> ...the opportunity we have to get digital pub working with OWP is a great one

...the opportunity we have to get digital pub working with OWP is a great one

15:15:10 <tzviya> ...we owe it to ourselves and the community

...we owe it to ourselves and the community

15:15:11 <karen> q+

Karen Myers: q+

15:15:19 <mgylling> ack karen

Markus Gylling: ack karen

15:15:24 <dauwhe__> q+

Dave Cramer: q+

15:16:01 <tzviya> karen: ivan and i have been working with many organizations and publishers. we are starting to see some renewed interest from software service providers

Karen Myers: ivan and i have been working with many organizations and publishers. we are starting to see some renewed interest from software service providers

15:16:18 <tzviya> ...not as much from trade publishers

...not as much from trade publishers

15:16:28 <tzviya> ...the education market wants to do more

...the education market wants to do more

15:16:51 <tzviya> ...if anyone else on call has any resources for Karen to reach out to, please let her know

...if anyone else on call has any resources for Karen to reach out to, please let her know

15:17:18 <tzviya> ...if there is anyone non-tech to reach out to (tech gets it), then let karen know

...if there is anyone non-tech to reach out to (tech gets it), then let karen know

15:18:00 <mgylling> ack dauwhe

Markus Gylling: ack dauwhe

15:18:47 <tzviya> dave: going back to organization of TFs - it might be helpful to have fewer, broader TFs

Dave Cramer: going back to organization of TFs - it might be helpful to have fewer, broader TFs

15:18:53 <liza> +1

Liza Daly: +1

15:19:31 <tzviya> ...one set of principles revolves around appearance (layout and DOM), another revolves around communicating with system

...one set of principles revolves around appearance (layout and DOM), another revolves around communicating with system

15:20:42 <tzviya> liza: we set ourselves up to fail with topics like "metadata" which is too big. we might want to focus on specific aspects of metadata

Liza Daly: we set ourselves up to fail with topics like "metadata" which is too big. we might want to focus on specific aspects of metadata

15:21:05 <tzviya> ...we might want to focus on requests from publishers (what they want to do now in publications)

...we might want to focus on requests from publishers (what they want to do now in publications)

15:21:29 <tzviya> ...and also focus on requests from reading systems (what they want to do in reading systems dev)

...and also focus on requests from reading systems (what they want to do in reading systems dev)

15:22:14 <tzviya> markus: broader categories such as appearance, and then others are sub-categories

Markus Gylling: broader categories such as appearance, and then others are sub-categories

15:22:43 <tzviya> ...but this might be counter productive, because we don't have a clear missive

...but this might be counter productive, because we don't have a clear missive

15:23:43 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+

Bill Kasdorf: q+

15:23:50 <mgylling> ack Bill_Kasdorf

Markus Gylling: ack Bill_Kasdorf

15:24:02 <tzviya> liza: categorizing use cases makes sense, especially if fall into buckets that make sense to W3C world (presentation, markup, etc)

Liza Daly: categorizing use cases makes sense, especially if fall into buckets that make sense to W3C world (presentation, markup, etc)

15:24:05 <Zakim> +madi

Zakim IRC Bot: +madi

15:25:18 <Luc> q+

Luc Audrain: q+

15:25:51 <tzviya> Bill_Kasdorf: liza's suggestion of just focusing on what there is demand for from OWP might help guide discussion, otherwise becomes unweildy

Bill Kasdorf: liza's suggestion of just focusing on what there is demand for from OWP might help guide discussion, otherwise becomes unweildy

15:25:56 <mgylling> ack Luc

Markus Gylling: ack Luc

15:27:23 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+

Bill Kasdorf: q+

15:27:42 <tzviya> Luc: point of view of publishers is good, but my global feeling is that we need help from W3C for wider viewpoint, otherwise this is not different from IDPF

Luc Audrain: point of view of publishers is good, but my global feeling is that we need help from W3C for wider viewpoint, otherwise this is not different from IDPF

15:27:55 <mgylling> ack Bill_Kasdorf

Markus Gylling: ack Bill_Kasdorf

15:27:56 <azaroth> q+

Robert Sanderson: q+

15:27:59 <ivan> ack Bill_Kasdorf

Ivan Herman: ack Bill_Kasdorf

15:29:26 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:29:33 <mgylling> ack azaroth

Markus Gylling: ack azaroth

15:29:40 <tzviya> Bill_Kasdorf: How do we get the right people on these groups? There has been a reluctance for organizations to join W3C/commit time, but we can consult with them when we have drafts

Bill Kasdorf: How do we get the right people on these groups? There has been a reluctance for organizations to join W3C/commit time, but we can consult with them when we have drafts

15:29:59 <tzviya> azaroth: I don't think this is about differentiating from IDPF

Robert Sanderson: I don't think this is about differentiating from IDPF

15:30:45 <tzviya> ...publishing notes first as drafts is a good way to bring in feedback. Not as daunting as joining a committee

...publishing notes first as drafts is a good way to bring in feedback. Not as daunting as joining a committee

15:31:05 <mgylling> ack ivan

Markus Gylling: ack ivan

15:31:12 <tzviya> markus: yes, good point. But, how do we get to drafts?

Markus Gylling: yes, good point. But, how do we get to drafts?

15:31:42 <tzviya> ivan: i don't see any problem with reaching out to others outside of W3C for feedback

Ivan Herman: i don't see any problem with reaching out to others outside of W3C for feedback

15:32:10 <tzviya> ...We are missing a clear goal for what each TF intends to do

...We are missing a clear goal for what each TF intends to do

15:32:39 <tzviya> +1

+1

15:33:26 <tzviya> Ivan: We now have a goal for behavioral UI, so it is likely that we will end up with something specific

Ivan Herman: We now have a goal for behavioral UI, so it is likely that we will end up with something specific

15:33:43 <tzviya> ...for other TFs, we should formalize goals

...for other TFs, we should formalize goals

15:35:19 <tzviya> ...example - it could be a goal of a11y TF to review existing documentation and determine if they are fully compliant and what changes need to be made

...example - it could be a goal of a11y TF to review existing documentation and determine if they are fully compliant and what changes need to be made

15:35:29 <tzviya> markus: these should be short-term goals?

Markus Gylling: these should be short-term goals?

15:35:40 <tzviya> ivan: we need to define what we should produce

Ivan Herman: we need to define what we should produce

15:35:40 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+

Bill Kasdorf: q+

15:35:57 <tzviya> markus: i've gleaned 2 things

Markus Gylling: i've gleaned 2 things

15:36:36 <tzviya> ...1st is a partial reorg of TFs, some stand by themselves, but others may need to be combined

...1st is a partial reorg of TFs, some stand by themselves, but others may need to be combined

15:37:31 <tzviya> ...2nd is to produce and document a short-term focus and goals

...2nd is to produce and document a short-term focus and goals

15:38:11 <tzviya> Gerardo: thinking about goals for a11y short-term goals

Gerardo Capiel: thinking about goals for a11y short-term goals

15:38:48 <tzviya> ...not sure if reviewing documentation would be a fruitful goal for this TF based on history with browsers

...not sure if reviewing documentation would be a fruitful goal for this TF based on history with browsers

15:38:58 <tzviya> markus: there may be other goals

Markus Gylling: there may be other goals

15:39:14 <tzviya> ...what are we delivering next?

...what are we delivering next?

15:40:06 <tzviya> Bill_Kasdorf: we can produce short-term goals for metadata, will talk to madi

Bill Kasdorf: we can produce short-term goals for metadata, will talk to madi

15:40:12 <ivan> ack Bill_Kasdorf

Ivan Herman: ack Bill_Kasdorf

15:41:11 <tzviya> ...this group talks about book publishing exclusively, no magazines, no journals. are we in position to get info from other fields?

...this group talks about book publishing exclusively, no magazines, no journals. are we in position to get info from other fields?

15:41:40 <tzviya> markus: we can only work with what we have.

Markus Gylling: we can only work with what we have.

15:42:10 <tzviya> ...Regarding metadata, we had a concrete goal to describe current problems of publishers

...Regarding metadata, we had a concrete goal to describe current problems of publishers

15:42:28 <tzviya> ...until we have that, I would hesitate to go further

...until we have that, I would hesitate to go further

15:42:41 <Zakim> -duga

Zakim IRC Bot: -duga

15:43:06 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

15:43:46 <tzviya> Bill_Kasdorf: none of the people that I would talk to about publishers are in this group

Bill Kasdorf: none of the people that I would talk to about publishers are in this group

15:44:12 <tzviya> markus: bring this list of people to W3C staff and start there

Markus Gylling: bring this list of people to W3C staff and start there

15:45:25 <tzviya> q+

q+

15:45:50 <madi> Graham Bell is the Exec. Director of EDitEUR

Madi Solomon: Graham Bell is the Exec. Director of EDitEUR

15:46:01 <Luc> I confirm

Luc Audrain: I confirm

15:46:02 <tzviya> q-

q-

15:47:19 <tzviya> Ivan: it is perfectly acceptable to gather info from these people and then document within the group

Ivan Herman: it is perfectly acceptable to gather info from these people and then document within the group

15:47:50 <tzviya> markus: metadata goal = gathering issues from within publishing of what cannot be done today

Markus Gylling: metadata goal = gathering issues from within publishing of what cannot be done today

15:48:11 <ivan> ack ivan

Ivan Herman: ack ivan

15:48:17 <karen> ack Julie

Karen Myers: ack Julie

15:48:43 <tzviya> Julie_BISG: a lot of TFs overlap with BISG committee work, so we can take work back to those committees

Julie Morris: a lot of TFs overlap with BISG committee work, so we can take work back to those committees

15:49:20 <tzviya> ...we can even include an agenda item to check in on W3C TF

...we can even include an agenda item to check in on W3C TF

15:50:06 <tzviya> markus: BISG is a bona fide member of W3C member, so can assign members to W3C in interim

Markus Gylling: BISG is a bona fide member of W3C member, so can assign members to W3C in interim

15:50:59 <liza> Okey-doke

Liza Daly: Okey-doke

15:51:06 <tzviya> action: markus, liza, tzviya produce new TF for content-related issues

ACTION: markus, liza, tzviya produce new TF for content-related issues

15:51:06 <trackbot> Error finding 'markus,'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'markus,'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users>.

15:51:35 <azaroth> Including latinreq and annotation?

Robert Sanderson: Including latinreq and annotation?

15:51:40 <tzviya> action: all TF leads formulate goals of TF - keep it short

ACTION: all TF leads formulate goals of TF - keep it short

15:51:40 <trackbot> Error finding 'all'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'all'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/track/users>.

15:51:58 <azaroth> okay :)

Robert Sanderson: okay :)

15:53:54 <tzviya> markus: ivan, please create additional column "current goal" on wiki

Markus Gylling: ivan, please create additional column "current goal" on wiki

15:54:51 <tzviya> markus: page DOM is officially dormant because we are still looking for someone to take it on

Markus Gylling: page DOM is officially dormant because we are still looking for someone to take it on

15:55:05 <tzviya> ...this could extend to APIs and scripting

...this could extend to APIs and scripting

15:55:18 <tzviya> ...we will follow up on goals next week

...we will follow up on goals next week

15:55:46 <mgylling> q?

Markus Gylling: q?

15:56:04 <Zakim> -Casey

Zakim IRC Bot: -Casey

15:56:13 <Bill_Kasdorf> q+

Bill Kasdorf: q+

15:56:22 <mgylling> ack Bill

Markus Gylling: ack Bill

15:56:48 <tzviya> Bill_Kasdorf: still focusing on metadata on 17 Mar?

Bill Kasdorf: still focusing on metadata on 17 Mar?

15:57:18 <tzviya> markus: yes, but it will be about 10 minutes

Markus Gylling: yes, but it will be about 10 minutes

15:58:03 <tzviya> markus: we will rename bahavioral UI this week

Markus Gylling: we will rename bahavioral UI this week

15:59:14 <Zakim> -liza

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15:59:15 <Zakim> -madi

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15:59:15 <Zakim> -mgylling

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15:59:16 <Zakim> -Julie__BISG

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15:59:16 <Zakim> -philm

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15:59:17 <Zakim> -azaroth

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15:59:17 <Zakim> -[GVoice]

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15:59:18 <Zakim> -Luc

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15:59:18 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers

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15:59:19 <Zakim> -Tzviya

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15:59:19 <Zakim> -laura

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15:59:19 <Zakim> -Bill_Kasdorf

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15:59:19 <Zakim> -dauwhe

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15:59:21 <Zakim> -Ivan

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15:59:21 <Zakim> -Vlad

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15:59:24 <Zakim> -Stearns

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15:59:26 <Zakim> -gcapiel

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15:59:28 <Zakim> -Bert

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16:02:32 <tm> rrsagent, draft minutes

Thierry Michel: rrsagent, draft minutes

16:02:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/10-dpub-minutes.html tm

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/10-dpub-minutes.html tm

16:05:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, ??P16, in DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, ??P16, in DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM

16:05:03 <Zakim> DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DPUB_DPUBIG()11:00AM has ended

16:05:03 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.646.336.aaaa, +1.212.364.aabb, mgylling, Vlad, +1.917.207.aacc, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, +1.505.665.aadd, +1.617.453.aaee, liza, +1.734.904.aaff, Ivan,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.646.336.aaaa, +1.212.364.aabb, mgylling, Vlad, +1.917.207.aacc, dauwhe, Tzviya, Stearns, gcapiel, +1.505.665.aadd, +1.617.453.aaee, liza, +1.734.904.aaff, Ivan,

16:05:04 <Zakim> ... azaroth, [GVoice], Bert, philm, +1.303.475.aagg, Julie__BISG, Casey, Bill_Kasdorf, +1.609.216.aahh, Karen_Myers, +33.1.43.92.aaii, Luc, laura, duga, madi

Zakim IRC Bot: ... azaroth, [GVoice], Bert, philm, +1.303.475.aagg, Julie__BISG, Casey, Bill_Kasdorf, +1.609.216.aahh, Karen_Myers, +33.1.43.92.aaii, Luc, laura, duga, madi

16:58:05 <dauwhe__> if you're interested in footnote reference marks: http://www.typography.com/blog/house-of-flying-reference-marks

Dave Cramer: if you're interested in footnote reference marks: http://www.typography.com/blog/house-of-flying-reference-marks