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20:01:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
20:01:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM scheduled to start now
20:01:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
20:01:21 <trackbot> Date: 17 December 2013
20:01:33 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM has now started
20:01:39 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
20:02:05 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
20:02:12 <Zakim> + +1.650.773.aaaa
20:02:15 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:02:15 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
20:02:34 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:02:34 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:02:49 <clown> zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
20:02:49 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
20:03:48 <clown> zakim, aaaa is Bryan_Garaventa
20:03:48 <Zakim> +Bryan_Garaventa; got it
20:04:05 <clown> RRSAgent: make log public
20:04:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:04:30 <clown> chair: Joseph_Scheuhammer
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20:06:21 <clown> ?
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20:09:03 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
20:09:21 <cyns> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:09:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_Bolter, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Bryan_Garaventa, Cynthia_Shelly
20:15:53 <asurkov> hey, clown
20:16:04 <clown> scribenick:  clown
20:16:15 <clown> agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Dec/0015.html
20:16:43 <clown> Topic:  Remaining 1.0 UAIG issues/actions
20:16:52 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
20:17:08 <asurkov> hey, davidb, ok
20:17:23 <clown> topic:  issue-486
20:17:30 <clown> issue-486?
20:17:30 <trackbot> issue-486 -- UAIG has some MUST requirements that could only be tested in HTML 5, but 1) the ARIA spec is being tested only against HTML 4 and we prefer to do the same with UAIG, and 2) HTML 5 isn't complete; so we need to deal with this in the UAIG CR exit criteria n -- open
20:17:31 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/486
20:17:57 <clown> DB:  let's just close it.
20:18:13 <clown> JS: No, there is a difference between the name calculation in the spec and the UAIG.
20:18:20 <clown> JS:  I think it's editorial.
20:18:38 <clown> JS:  But I think Michael wants to keep it open to make sure.
20:18:49 <clown> JS:  two differences.
20:19:07 <clown> JS:  one is an example of use of aria-labellbedby + aria-label
20:19:18 <clown> JS: the other is a note about alt text and HTML5.
20:21:14 <clown> issue-551?
20:21:14 <trackbot> issue-551 -- When UAIG enters CR, we need to ask Director if we have to have 2 mappings to all platforms, or just demonstrate implementability of mapping via a sample and say all the mappings are therefore defined implementable -- open
20:21:14 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/551
20:21:26 <clown> topic:  Issue-551.
20:21:48 <clown> JS:  the plan is to change the UIA menu event mappings to a SHOULD.
20:22:22 <clown> JS:  My mistake, not 551.
20:22:35 <clown> CS:  we marked the UIA column "at risk".
20:23:34 <Zakim> +??P5
20:23:49 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/551
20:24:05 <clown> JS:  Michael, can we close this issue?
20:24:23 <clown> MC:  we have entered CR, and the director accepted the argument.  We can close it.
20:24:49 <clown> CS:  486 is also yours.
20:25:07 <clown> MC:  I think that was a simllar issue.
20:25:15 <clown> MC:  I think it is moot.
20:25:38 <clown> MC:  there is wording in the exit criteria.
20:25:44 <clown> JS:  close it?
20:26:22 <clown> topci:  629
20:26:28 <clown> topic:  629
20:26:33 <clown> issue-629?
20:26:33 <trackbot> issue-629 -- Unable to test ie11 as inconsistent with menu event mapping table due to lack of support of msaa column -- open
20:26:33 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/629
20:27:03 <clown> CS:  there are outstanding bugs, but the blockage has been cleared.
20:27:22 <clown> CS:  We can test these items, and we have.  There are bugs.
20:27:34 <clown> CS:  Just tracking down if the bugs are real.
20:28:05 <clown> JS:  We have cleared the list.
20:29:05 <clown> MC:  we can tackle the 1.1 product next, but we don't need to do that right now.
20:29:15 <clown> Topic:  CR publication of UAIG.
20:29:17 <clown> https://twitter.com/w3c
20:29:52 <clown> MC:  It was announced today that the UAIG is now CR>
20:30:01 <clown> s/CR>/CR./
20:30:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:31:31 <clown> BG:  has the f2f agenda come out yet?
20:31:48 <clown> MC:  There is a draft, and discussions with Janina, but it isn't posted yet.
20:35:01 <davidb> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/
20:38:01 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
20:38:14 <Zakim> -David_Bolter
20:38:19 <Zakim> -Bryan_Garaventa
20:38:33 <clown> zakim, please part
20:38:33 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.650.773.aaaa, Joseph_Scheuhammer, David_Bolter, Bryan_Garaventa, Cynthia_Shelly, Michael_Cooper
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20:38:40 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make mintues', clown.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
20:38:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:45:24 <clown> JS:  Next meeting is Tue Jan 7 2014.
20:45:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-aapi-minutes.html clown
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