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16:59:51 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:59:51 <trackbot> Date: 05 December 2013
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17:03:01 <janina> zakim, ??P24 is me
17:03:01 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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17:03:58 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:04:02 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
17:04:02 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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17:04:42 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
17:04:43 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
17:04:55 <plh> scribe: plh
17:05:09 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:05:12 <plh> Topic: Action items
17:05:15 <plh> action-229?
17:05:15 <trackbot> action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-11-14 -- OPEN
17:05:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
17:05:35 <plh> Paul: it was decided that this action is on Robin's TODO list
17:05:39 <plh> ... but low priority
17:05:48 <plh> ... compared to HTML5 testing document
17:05:55 <plh> ... change the date to 2 weeks from today
17:05:58 <plh> ... December 19
17:06:31 <plh> Sam: 19 is it then
17:06:36 <plh> action-237?
17:06:36 <trackbot> action-237 -- Robin Berjon to Give us a revised overview of testing document - in 4 weeks -- due 2013-12-04 -- OPEN
17:06:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/237
17:07:11 <plh> Paul: carry this one to next week
17:07:19 <plh> Topic: Surveys
17:07:26 <plh>  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Dec/0004.html
17:07:34 <plh>  Preference Survey: Polyglot Note vs Recommendation Track
17:07:39 <plh> closes on Tuesday
17:08:12 <plh> Topic: Task Force reports
17:08:22 <plh> Sam: testing tf? no Kris around...
17:08:53 <plh> Paul: we looked at the canvas test suite results
17:09:04 <plh> ... sounded promising
17:09:22 <plh> ... so we have good results
17:10:37 <paulc> Canvas2D test results: http://w3c-test.org/testrunner/2dcontext/
17:10:55 <paulc> also: http://w3c-test.org/testrunner/2dcontext/failures.html
17:11:03 <plh> Sam: net is HTML a11y tf
17:11:12 <janina> http://www.w3.org/2013/12/05-html-a11y-minutes.html
17:11:16 <rubys> s/net is/next is/
17:11:22 <plh> Janina: canvas a11y has been a hot topic
17:11:37 <plh> ... plh filed bugs related to focus ring
17:11:47 <plh> ... we'll focus on squashing them now
17:12:05 <plh> ... we might let customfocusring to L2 since it might take longer
17:12:15 <plh> ... but for system focus ring, we're looking at 60-90 days
17:12:17 <paulc> See plh email about bugs: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Dec/0011.html
17:12:33 <plh> ... we agreed to reactive the canvas tf subteam to work on the bugs
17:12:55 <plh> ... there were several ARIA related bugs that we're trying to move forward
17:12:59 <paulc> The ARIA bugs that janina mentioned are on HTML5
17:13:22 <plh> ... bugs related to ARIA hidden will be discussed on Monday
17:13:28 <plh> ... there is a proposal from Ted to resolve them
17:13:36 <plh> ... will be used as the starting point
17:14:16 <plh> ... Steve filed a bugt we should go over the ARIA properties mapping
17:15:03 <plh> Paul: that's about 3 bugs in HTML5 CR
17:15:11 <plh> Janina: correct
17:15:16 <plh> ... related to issue 204
17:16:04 <plh> ... I also have an action item related to come back on the MSE bugs
17:16:24 <plh> ... we're slowing moving on longdesc
17:16:38 <plh> ... standalone vs integration
17:16:52 <plh> ... seems like the prevailing opinion is standalone
17:17:12 <paulc> MSE LC bugs: http://tinyurl.com/lowrcmq  EME open bugs: http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo
17:17:14 <plh> Sam: Media TF?
17:17:35 <plh> Paul: we've been figuring our status post-TPAC
17:17:47 <plh> ... we have a plan for a candidate CR spec for MSE
17:18:11 <plh> ... but we reference a FileAPI feature that doesn't exist anymore
17:18:21 <plh> ... so this bug blocks MSE at the moment
17:18:28 <plh> ... might take more than a week to get done
17:18:48 <plh> ... next step after that will be a CFC to move MSE forward
17:18:59 <plh> ... on the EME front, we have open bugs
17:19:09 <plh> ... and the editors need to follow-up from TPAC
17:19:22 <plh> ... with proposed solutions and edits
17:19:41 <plh> ... we'll be down to less than 10 bugs by end of the year I think
17:20:32 <plh> Topic: Other business
17:20:45 <plh> Sam: f2f minutes, ...
17:20:53 <plh> http://www.w3.org/2013/11/14-html-wg-minutes.html
17:21:01 <plh> Sam: MSE status (see above)
17:21:30 <plh> ... overview of testing (waiting on action-237)
17:21:44 <plh> ... canvas testing (see above)
17:21:49 <plh> ... 11 bugs
17:21:58 <plh> ... we'll be addressed in the upcoming weeks
17:22:11 <plh> ... status of heartbeat of picture element
17:22:25 <plh> Paul: the chairs need to address this one
17:22:33 <plh> ... following the recommendation from the CG
17:22:51 <plh> ... we'll try to action this item before next week meeting
17:23:12 <plh> Sam: longdesc (see above)
17:25:09 <paulc> q+
17:25:14 <plh> plh: [stability of section 5 of DOM4]
17:25:25 <plh> Sam: please send a note to the list
17:25:25 <rubys> ack paulc
17:26:04 <janina> q+
17:27:12 <plh> Paul: since there are many other specs that reference to DOM4, would it be useful to develop a report on the stability of DOM4?
17:27:19 <plh> plh: yes, a survey would be nice
17:27:24 <plh> Paul: like we did on HTML5
17:28:05 <plh> Paul: the Chairs will follow up after your note
17:28:37 <plh> ack janina
17:28:38 <rubys> ack next
17:28:51 <plh> Janina: PF has interest in this topic
17:28:57 <plh> ... related to mutation events
17:29:12 <plh> ... whether the replacement meets our need
17:31:11 <plh> [...]
17:31:38 <plh> Paul: if you make it explicit about the implementation experience and tests, we could do a CfC
17:31:47 <plh> ... and see if anyone objects
17:32:08 <plh> ... seems like the fatest way
17:32:48 <plh> ... we might be able to respond by the following Tuesday (Dec 17)
17:32:49 <paulc> zakim, who is on the call?
17:32:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, +1.206.850.aaaa, Plh, Daniel_Austin, janina, pladd, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a]
17:32:51 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has jaymunro
17:33:14 <plh> Topic: Scribe next week?
17:33:21 <plh> Sam: Paul will chair
17:33:31 <plh> [adjourned]
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17:33:50 <Zakim> -Sam
17:33:53 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
17:34:08 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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17:34:10 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, +1.206.850.aaaa, Plh, Daniel_Austin, janina, pladd, jaymunro, [Microsoft]
17:34:31 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] is paulc
17:34:31 <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft]'
17:34:35 <plh> rrsagent, generate minutes
17:34:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/12/05-html-wg-minutes.html plh
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