<richt> <Dave Raggett introduces Web of Things breakout session>

<richt> <Jacques presents the NFC API>

<richt> Jacques: We starting with use cases for NFC and tried to solve those in the spec.

<dsinger> given that large 'things' tend to have an embedded 'web server' and can be contacted over HTTP (HTML, forms, XMLHTTPRequest, and so on)…is a thing (a) one of those, an HTTP-connected thing or (b) something with IP but without a web server? (c) something that can communicate that's not IP-based (bluetooth, nfc, etc.) (c) something else?

<dsr> Dave's slides http://www.w3.org/2013/Talks/wot-break-out/

<DV> http://w3c.github.io/nfc/proposals/common/nfc.html

<richt> thanks dsinger. Let's add this to the questions queue when we finish the round of demos?

<giuseppep> dsinger: IIUC all of them, everybody has his favourite "thing"

<dsinger> sure, queue it up. would suggest focus, myself...

it's clear that one challenge is to set up a framework where all these types of things can work together

<yusuke1> That's the overlay, I guess.

dsinger, with a preference on what type of thing to focus on?

<giuseppep> dsinger: sure, I think this session include different people from different groups

<giuseppep> (with different ideas as well)

<yusuke1> +q Question for Network Service Discovery: CoAP is in scope?

<richt> NSD = Network Service Discovery

-> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/tip/discovery-api/Overview.html Network Service Discovery API (richt is th eeditor)

WebRTC + NSD, interesting indeed

<richt> indeed dom

<richt> LAN gaming?

<tantek> is there a page on w3.org/wiki for the webofthings?

<tantek> e.g. w3org/wiki/webofthings?

<dsr> see http://www.w3.org/2013/Talks/wot-break-out/#(20)

http://www.w3.org/community/wot/wiki/ would be a good place to document outcomes of this break out (if any)

<tantek> dsr - ok, I created a stub page on main w3c wiki and added link to your preso: http://www.w3.org/wiki/Webofthings

<tantek> dom - no more group-specific wiki silos please.

yeah, I hate these too :(

<tantek> (really wish the CG creator thingie didn't auto-create silo-wikis :( )

yeah, it's probably a reasonable request to send to public-council@w3.org tantek

with instead an encouragement to start a wiki page on w3.org/wiki

(maybe the CG creator could create a default page / area per CG)

<dsinger> ok, so to my question I am also hearing (e) conceptual 'things' (like a room of people)

we need the web of mikes

(I fancy the day where we can replace these wireless mikes by just talking into our phones that are WebRTC plugged into the audio system of the room)

<dsinger> I rather suspect that the HTTP-connected non-HTML/forms devices are rather interesting; able to present information and receive control, but don't offer 'web pages' to do that?

dsinger, I agree this is likely the most cost-effective things to look at in the first place

with plenty of hard questions to solve

<yusuke1> For me, WoT is of data, not protocol...

(e.g. how to discover them, how to deal with the many types of data they expose, the variety of services, etc)

<giuseppep> dom, talking in your phones is old, haven't you read about the "tatoo-ed" mic?

sorry to be so old-fashioned :)

I hadn't heard about those, no

[http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57611545-1/motorola-wants-to-tattoo-a-mic-on-your-throat/ ]

as always in this field, both amazing and creepy

<JonathanJ> My presentation : http://www.w3.org/wiki/images/4/4d/20131113-HyWAI4T-ETRI-JonathanJ.pdf

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