14:28:38 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #rd
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14:28:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:28:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:28:43 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:28:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:28:44 <trackbot> Date: 13 November 2013
14:28:54 <sharper_> sharper_ has joined #rd
14:29:24 <shadi> zakim, this is rd
14:29:24 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I do not see a conference named 'rd' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:29:27 <shadi> zakim, this is rdwg
14:29:27 <Zakim> sorry, shadi, I do not see a conference named 'rdwg' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:29:30 <sharper_> trackbot, start meeting
14:29:30 <sharper_> zakim, please clear the agenda
14:29:30 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:29:32 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:29:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:29:34 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:29:35 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:29:35 <trackbot> Date: 13 November 2013
14:29:56 <Vivienne> HI Shadi.  I see Zakim is acting up.  I can't dial in.
14:29:57 <sharper_> Chair: Harper_Simon
14:29:58 <sharper_> Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
14:29:59 <sharper_> Agenda+ Easy to Read W3C Note Finalised  [klaus]
14:30:01 <sharper_> Agenda+ Close the Loop on the symposium L&F [shadi]
14:30:02 <sharper_> Agenda+ Next Symposium Topic Survey [sharper]
14:30:04 <sharper_> Agenda+ User Modelling W3C Note Survey http://goo.gl/25nl1u [yehya/christos]
14:30:05 <sharper_> Agenda+ E-Learning Symposium Progress http://goo.gl/bbjL92 [justin silvia]
14:30:07 <sharper_> Agenda+ Accreditation of Websites Template [klaus]
14:30:08 <davidsloan> davidsloan has joined #rd
14:30:08 <sharper_> Agenda+ STANDING  - Next Catalogue Topic [sharper]
14:30:10 <sharper_> Agenda+ PENDING  - Tips for AAR http://goo.gl/PTzghe [david]
14:30:11 <sharper_> Agenda+ PENDING  - Metrics W3C Note Status  [shadi]
14:30:13 <sharper_> Agenda+ PENDING  - Mobile W3C Note Public Release this Week  [shadi]
14:30:14 <sharper_> Agenda+ PENDING  - Text Customisation W3C Note Status [shawn/david]
14:30:15 <sharper_> Agenda+ STANDING - Issues and Actions  http://goo.gl/Z7XY3Y [sharper]
14:30:16 <sharper_> Agenda+ STANDING - Any Other Business [sharper]
14:30:18 <shadi> zakim, list conferences
14:30:18 <Zakim> I see W3C_TP()7:00PM active
14:30:19 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM, WAI_WCAG()9:00AM, Team_W3M()8:00AM, SW_CG()9:00AM
14:30:38 <shadi> hmmm
14:30:58 <shadi> zakim, this will be 7394
14:30:58 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_RDWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 60 minutes
14:30:58 <Vivienne> just says 'conference is restricted at this time'
14:31:06 <sharper_> zakim, save agenda
14:31:06 <shadi> yes, for me too
14:31:06 <sharper_> zakim, take up item 1
14:31:07 <sharper_> regrets: markel, Annika, Klaus, yeliz, Yehya. Silvia, Giorgio, Mark
14:31:12 <Zakim> ok, sharper_, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2013/11/13-rd-agenda.rdf
14:31:14 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper via sharper_]
14:31:19 <shadi> zakim, this is rdwg
14:31:19 <Zakim> shadi, I see WAI_RDWG()10:30AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be rdwg".
14:31:25 <Vivienne> regrets also from Justin - his internet connection is down
14:31:27 <shadi> zakim, this will be rdwg
14:31:27 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_RDWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 59 minutes
14:31:31 <sharper_> rrsagent, make logs public
14:31:32 <sharper_> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:31:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/13-rd-minutes.html sharper_
14:32:07 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
14:32:07 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
14:32:34 <davidsloan> hi all, I can't join the call - "conference is restricted at this time" - I assume you're investigating :)
14:32:38 <shadi> daylight saving time issue
14:32:58 <shadi> :(
14:32:59 <Vivienne> has changed now to saying 'this passcode is not valid'
14:33:00 <shadi> seem the call got moved by an hour for some reason
14:33:09 <shadi> sorry folks, i'm following-up
14:34:31 <shadi> zakim, room for 10 people?
14:34:32 <Zakim> ok, shadi; conference Team_(rd)14:34Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1534Z
14:35:00 <shadi> shadi has changed the topic to: Teleconference code for *today* (only): 26631
14:35:35 <Zakim> Team_(rd)14:34Z has now started
14:35:36 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:35:47 <Zakim> +??P1
14:35:48 <Zakim> -??P1
14:35:48 <Zakim> +??P1
14:35:55 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:35:55 <Zakim> +shadi; got it
14:36:15 <Zakim> +??P2
14:36:47 <davidsloan> zakim, +??P2 is me
14:36:47 <Zakim> sorry, davidsloan, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'
14:36:59 <davidsloan> zakim, ??P2 is me
14:36:59 <Zakim> +davidsloan; got it
14:37:16 <sharper_> restricted on sip
14:37:36 <sharper_> Hi everyone,
14:37:39 <shadi> hmmm
14:37:46 <shadi> did you try the code 26631
14:37:47 <sharper_>  so the conferenc ei srestricted for me so I can't get in.
14:37:59 <sharper_> I wonder with this many attendees is it productive to continue?
14:39:11 <shadi> simon, did you try 26631?
14:39:13 <Zakim> +??P3
14:39:24 <sharper_> zakim, ??P3 is sharper
14:39:24 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
14:40:51 <Vivienne> zakim, ??P1 is me
14:40:51 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
14:42:06 <shadi> scribe: shadi
14:42:41 <shadi> Topic: Information Exchange
14:43:02 <shadi> DS: went to Access to Higher Ground, gave keynote
14:43:19 <shadi> ...mentioned RDWG and my participation there
14:43:34 <shadi> ...also told about Online Symposium
14:43:46 <shadi> ...and shared links etc
14:43:48 <shadi> ...hope it is good exposure
14:44:39 <shadi> ...could context with the conference
14:44:55 <shadi> ...could be good exchange with that
14:44:56 <shadi> ...also to send results to
14:45:15 <shadi> ...separately, also heard a talk from Gregg Close (?)
14:45:53 <shadi> ...described approach of doing accessibility at local university
14:46:13 <shadi> ...gathers information about bugs and fixes
14:46:26 <shadi> ...wonder if data might be important for people in RDWG
14:46:52 <shadi> ...seemed interested to share work and ideas
14:46:59 <shadi> q+
14:47:20 <shadi> ...not results of HTML but data points
14:47:55 <shadi> ...seems quite useful for accessibility research
14:48:06 <sharper_> ack s
14:48:10 <shadi> SH: that's the benefit of online repositories
14:48:13 <shadi> ...like big data
14:51:41 <shadi> SAZ: thanks a lot for the outreach and promotion!
14:52:07 <shadi> ...also good to hear that good fit between RDWG and Access to Higher Ground
14:52:20 <shadi> ...should continue to foster exchange with this and other conferences
14:52:46 <shadi> ...also good to maybe list the data repository you were talking about
14:53:09 <shadi> ...this is our core mission, to help exchange and coordination in the research community
14:53:55 <shadi> DS: good to have a listing and maybe a point-of-contact in the group
14:54:13 <shadi> SH: need to think through
14:54:29 <shadi> ...sometimes licenses prevent secondary analysis
14:54:58 <shadi> ...maybe can provide advice in the tips for accessibility-aware research
14:55:06 <shadi> ...though bigger issue than accessibility
14:56:08 <shadi> DS: good advice to people about how to use datasets
14:56:18 <shadi> ...and what kinds of permissions to look for
14:57:26 <shadi> SH: could speak people at WebScience
14:57:53 <shadi> ...how can people become an observatory for accessibility?
14:58:38 <shadi> DS: action to create page that lists datasets
14:58:46 <shadi> q+
14:59:02 <sharper_> ack s
15:00:04 <davidsloan> correction to minutes: Greg Kraus, North Carolina State University
15:00:22 <shadi> SAZ: list such a dataset separately or under a corresponding topic, or both?
15:00:27 <shadi> ...think maybe both
15:00:55 <shadi> SH: have few repositories now but could start seeing new ones building
15:01:09 <shadi> DS: page listing datasets might be most sustainable way to go
15:01:11 <shadi> q+
15:01:16 <sharper_> ack s
15:01:35 <shadi> http://diagramcenter.org/
15:02:02 <shadi> Gerardo Capiel
15:02:08 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47076&public=1
15:04:30 <Vivienne> q+
15:04:49 <sharper_> ack viv
15:05:31 <shadi> VC: worked on synopsis accreditation note for symposium
15:05:53 <shadi> s/symposium/discussion
15:05:55 <shadi> +1 to send it to the group
15:07:58 <Vivienne> good night all
15:08:03 <Zakim> -Vivienne
15:08:05 <Zakim> -sharper
15:08:05 <Zakim> -shadi
15:08:05 <Zakim> -davidsloan
15:08:05 <Zakim> Team_(rd)14:34Z has ended
15:08:05 <Zakim> Attendees were shadi, davidsloan, sharper, Vivienne
15:08:23 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
15:08:23 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:08:23 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:08:32 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:08:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/13-rd-minutes.html trackbot
15:08:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:08:33 <RRSAgent> I see no action items