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12:58:12 <fsasaki> meeting: MLW-LG Wg
12:58:13 <fsasaki> chair: felix
12:58:15 <fsasaki> scribe: felix
12:58:29 <Arle> present+ Arle
12:58:39 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Nov/0026.html
12:58:43 <fsasaki> present+ felix
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12:59:28 <fsasaki> regrets: dave, pablo, olaf-michael, serge
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13:03:58 <fsasaki> topic: roll call and agenda review
13:04:07 <fsasaki> agenda at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Nov/0026.html
13:04:22 <kfritsche> present+ kfritsche
13:05:09 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Nov/0026.html
13:05:26 <fsasaki> topic: f2f preparation
13:05:28 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Madrid_November_2013_f2f
13:06:14 <philr> I am sorry that I am unable to attend in person.
13:06:17 <fsasaki> pedro: no additoinal comments
13:06:53 <philr> particularly as Pedro promised me Spanish ham!
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13:08:18 <fsasaki> action: felix send mail to Asun about projectors, wifi etc.
13:08:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-569 - Send mail to asun about projectors, wifi etc. [on Felix Sasaki - due 2013-11-20].
13:08:49 <fsasaki> topic: f2f agenda
13:08:49 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Madrid_November_2013_f2f#Objectives
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13:09:13 <fsasaki> felix: tuesday will about future plans
13:09:17 <Milan> present+ Milan
13:09:23 <fsasaki> ... monday about deliverables, ltweb wrap up
13:09:44 <fsasaki> .. M24 report, felix will send around template
13:10:28 <fsasaki> felix: anything else in addition to objectives http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Madrid_November_2013_f2f#Objectives
13:11:04 <fsasaki> .. I like to add h2020 and other funding opportunities
13:11:38 <philr> h2020 seems like a good idea to discuss
13:12:48 <fsasaki> topic: Video outreach
13:13:17 <fsasaki> arle: we decided to replace the script that had been sent out earlier
13:13:32 <fsasaki> see Arle's mail at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Nov/0025.html
13:13:44 <fsasaki> new main script is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MtIMqf6oCe1SOA5mIHQEvO-iEGy_dLeVt4iVKSd3NR4/pub
13:14:01 <fsasaki> arle: two examples where ITS could have a benefit in the world
13:14:28 <fsasaki> arle explaining the Khrushchev example, then the food example
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13:14:45 <fsasaki> arle: goal in both examples is to make ITS2 benefit understandable to non expert
13:14:55 <fsasaki> .. that video would close with logos of all partners
13:15:15 <fsasaki> .. if you want to edit that, please let me know
13:15:30 <fsasaki> pedro: we provided two ideas - TMS to CMS
13:15:34 <fsasaki> .. and another one
13:15:54 <fsasaki> .. is sending to you a first draft next week ok?
13:15:56 <fsasaki> arle: yes
13:16:38 <fsasaki> [see timeline at Arle's mail - please sent sripts by end of next week]
13:16:55 <fsasaki> pedro: we will look at this during the madrid meeting
13:17:01 <fsasaki> .. next week I'll send the script
13:17:12 <fsasaki> arle: I am out next thursday and friday, fyi
13:17:37 <fsasaki> arle: the main video we have we are in discussion with somebody to make drawings
13:17:47 <fsasaki> .. and voiceover will go with that
13:18:02 <fsasaki> .. for the other videos there will be screencasts
13:19:19 <fsasaki> nieves: should we remind the people about details of videos from the screencast?
13:19:22 <fsasaki> arle: yes
13:19:33 <fsasaki> .. second category of videos, the screencasts
13:19:46 <fsasaki> .. we want to find a sort of demo that is nice functionality that ITS provides
13:19:53 <fsasaki> .. we want to put a priority
13:20:01 <fsasaki> .. and a demo that can be done in no more than 5 min
13:20:17 <fsasaki> .. if you use demo materials, that can be provided to try things out, we provide links to those
13:20:24 <fsasaki> .. esp. of open source projects
13:20:39 <fsasaki> .. for some that may not work, but that is fine too
13:20:48 <fsasaki> pedro: we can provide links to documentation that we have in the wiki
13:20:57 <fsasaki> arle: that is the best approach I think
13:21:20 <Arle> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CI0P3-Nk_hU1LWAxralDx6-njySAdtMR4SAdHB9-hMg/put
13:21:26 <Arle> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CI0P3-Nk_hU1LWAxralDx6-njySAdtMR4SAdHB9-hMg/pub
13:21:30 <Arle> Use the second one.
13:22:35 <Arle> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gKRDamAeO3mFg-ybFjLzXFjB85WcPl-DaAZ1DaZtgXg/pub
13:22:58 <fsasaki> arle: we thought we would use the same file that is generated in the okapi demo
13:23:02 <fsasaki> .. to feed in the ocelt demo
13:23:38 <pedro_> pedro: when do you think videos can be actually recorded? We need to know to allocate time in our agendas and preparing it.
13:23:50 <Yves_> I will look at those
13:24:02 <philr> Will do
13:24:06 <fsasaki> felix: we have a meeting tomorrow
13:25:07 <fsasaki> .. could you let us know potential time slots in last week of nov and first week of december
13:25:27 <fsasaki> ... week of 2 december
13:26:01 <fsasaki> action: felix to make a doodle to fix recording dates after talking to volker
13:26:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-570 - Make a doodle to fix recording dates after talking to volker [on Felix Sasaki - due 2013-11-20].
13:27:10 <fsasaki> arle: if you want to do videos after that it is ok
13:27:20 <fsasaki> .. so we can add things to the ITS2 youtube channel, that is fine
13:27:41 <pedro_> pedro: that week we only have available 2nd and 3rd December. Otherwise, the week of 9th Dec.
13:28:20 <fsasaki> pedro: music for the videos - have you thought about that?
13:28:27 <fsasaki> arle: for the intro video yes
13:28:33 <fsasaki> .. for the others we have not thought about that yet
13:28:55 <fsasaki> pedro: using music without a copyright is not difficult but you have to handle that
13:29:08 <fsasaki> .. so have a video at the beginng and at the end
13:29:24 <fsasaki> felix: discuss with volker
13:29:54 <fsasaki> s/discuss/will discuss/
13:30:05 <fsasaki> its2 in oxygen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x6AH3JdjY4
13:31:17 <Yves_> very neat!
13:32:00 <Yves_> can we send the link to the video to the public?
13:32:32 <fsasaki> felix: sure
13:32:46 <fsasaki> .. just make people aware that this is still experimental
13:32:58 <fsasaki> topic: what to do in ITS IG
13:33:15 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Main_Page#Work_items.2C_issues.2C_actions
13:33:43 <fsasaki> xliff 1.2, 2.0 mapping, ITS-RDF mapping, usage scenarios document, issues and proposed features
13:34:01 <Yves_> yes, almost there for 1.2
13:34:31 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-mlw-metadata-us-impl-20130307/
13:34:58 <Yves_> yes
13:35:00 <fsasaki> felix: would it be ok to continue work on that in the IG?
13:35:31 <fsasaki> .. idea is to have an IG call 1 per month
13:35:52 <Yves_> +1 to 1 call per month
13:36:17 <pedro_> +1
13:36:35 <fsasaki> felix: invite external people to talk about selected topics and relation to ITS
13:36:55 <fsasaki> ... e.g. business use cases, other technologies (semantic web), new projects, ...
13:37:33 <Arle> I think that once a month would be good. It would make it easier to resurrect work when needed and help us evangelize our efforts to others.
13:37:36 <fsasaki> ... scope of IG would be not only continue idsucssio on ITS2, but to go beyond
13:38:03 <Ankit> +1 to once a month
13:38:23 <fsasaki> felix: would that make sense?
13:38:25 <fsasaki> pedro: yes
13:38:31 <fsasaki> .. we have to be realistic what we can do
13:38:49 <fsasaki> .. from our point of view, the discussion we had with dave to go beyond, e..g with readiness
13:38:56 <fsasaki> .. or work on a web service
13:39:06 <fsasaki> .. that will be one of the activities that we will work on
13:39:24 <fsasaki> .. a standardized ws, various partners there interested in that
13:39:47 <fsasaki> arle: need to have some company to do monthly webinars and provide infrastructure
13:39:57 <fsasaki> .. if that grows beyond current side it can be more expensive
13:41:09 <fsasaki> topic: deliverables
13:41:20 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Deliverables
13:42:54 <fsasaki> felix: thanks to all for finishign so many m21 due deliverables, worked pretty well
13:42:58 <fsasaki> topic: aob
13:43:30 <Yves_> bye
13:43:45 <fsasaki> adjourned
13:43:50 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
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