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03:04:24 <ted> scribe: virginie
03:04:24 <vivien> s/scibe/scribe/
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03:04:49 <ted> scribe: ted
03:04:55 <mnot1> Hi Ted - who are you?
03:05:23 <ted> mark: rrsagent is used for recording minutes
03:05:28 <mnot1>  /list
03:05:30 <ted> rrsagent, make log public
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03:05:37 <mnot1> \list
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03:05:59 <Ling_chen> see it works!
03:06:05 <ted> chaals: most channels will show on /list command.  you can make them private
03:06:25 <dopi> dopi has joined #intro
03:06:27 <ted> ... anyone can create a channel.  ask people what channel the meeting is on
03:06:38 <Ralph> Ralph has joined #intro
03:06:58 <ted> ... as jeff or doug said you can make a private query to individual if you are more comfortable instead of on the channel
03:07:12 <kenny> kenny has joined #intro
03:07:35 <ted> ... it is useful for sharing comments without interfering with the discussion
03:08:23 <ted> rrsagent, draft minutes
03:08:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/10-intro-minutes.html ted
03:08:28 <mnot1> something stupid
03:08:41 <ted> s/stupid/stupifying/
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03:09:12 <mnot1> s/stupifying/brilliant/
03:09:45 <Ling_chen> see if IRC works: how to find  the agenda for web test and tool WG?
03:09:50 <mnot1> ted: I think drafting the minutes stopped logging?
03:09:52 <kenny> hello, Ling_chen
03:10:24 <vivien> [ the s command that ted used is for 'substitute' and enables you to correct an IRC record ]
03:10:30 <ted> [mnot i think there is a delay, the live log saved every minute or so]
03:11:21 <bgidon> q+
03:11:27 <mnot1> q+
03:11:33 <Ralph> q+
03:11:34 <bgidon> q-
03:11:39 <mnot1> Zakim, who is on the queue?
03:11:39 <Zakim> I see mnot, Ralph on the speaker queue
03:11:44 <Ralph> or, if you wish, ...
03:11:45 <Ralph> queue+
03:12:04 <mnot1> q+ about chaals's pink shirt
03:12:06 <virginie> q+ to ask who is the chair of this meeting
03:12:18 <mnot1> q+ to talk about Chaals' pink shiirt
03:12:28 <mnot1> zakim, who is no the queue?
03:12:28 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, mnot1.
03:12:39 <virginie> q-
03:12:42 <mnot1> zakim, who is no the queue?
03:12:42 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, mnot1.
03:12:49 <mnot1> zakim, who is on the queue?
03:12:49 <Zakim> I see mnot, Ralph on the speaker queue
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03:12:54 <vivien> -> http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/ W3C IRC (Internet Relay Chat) page
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03:13:06 <Ralph> rrsagent, pointer?
03:13:06 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2013/11/10-intro-irc#T03-13-06
03:13:53 <vivien> -> http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent The RRSAgent IRC Bot (using for recording IRC meeting conversations)
03:14:19 <vivien> Chair: Charles
03:14:37 <mete> zakim, help
03:14:37 <Zakim> Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
03:14:39 <Zakim> Some of the commands I know are:
03:14:39 <Zakim>  xxx is yyy       - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
03:14:39 <Zakim>                     if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
03:14:39 <Zakim>  xxx may be yyy   - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
03:14:40 <Zakim>  I am xxx         - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
03:14:40 <Zakim>  xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
03:14:40 <Zakim>  xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
03:14:40 <Zakim>  who's here?      - lists the participants on the phone
03:14:40 <Zakim>  who's muted?     - lists the participants who are muted
03:14:40 <Zakim>  mute xxx         - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
03:14:40 <Zakim>  unmute xxx       - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
03:14:41 <Zakim>  is xxx here?     - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
03:14:41 <Zakim>  list conferences - reports the active conferences
03:14:42 <Zakim>  this is xxx      - associates this channel with conference xxx
03:14:42 <Zakim>  excuse us        - disconnects from the irc channel
03:14:42 <Zakim> I last learned something new on $Date: 2013-03-03 19:18:47 $
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03:17:47 <dennisdmac> .
03:17:56 <mnot1> +1
03:18:15 <mnot1> It's useful to say things on the side like this:
03:18:29 <mnot1> You start with /me
03:18:47 <bgidon> +1
03:19:34 <bgidon> Challs: Working group charter introduction
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03:21:00 <mnot1> People often indicate they agree with something by saying "+1", and disagree with "-1". It's not a vote (usually); just a way to indicate support without taking a lot of time/space
03:21:00 <gcapiel> rrsagent, grep gcapiel
03:21:00 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'gcapiel'
03:21:25 <mnot1> "0" means "I don't care/know"
03:21:57 <kenny> zakim, list
03:21:57 <Zakim> I see no active conferences
03:21:58 <Zakim> scheduled at this time is Team_(rrs1)02:32Z
03:22:30 <kenny> zakim, who is here
03:22:30 <Zakim> kenny, you need to end that query with '?'
03:22:36 <kenny> zakim, who is here?
03:22:36 <Zakim> sorry, kenny, I don't know what conference this is
03:22:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see Yudong, Yinghua, dennisdmac, gcapiel, johnny, kenny, Ralph, bgidon, Ling_chen, denis, Zakim, RRSAgent, mete, virginie, vivien, mnot1, jallan, ted, mnot
03:24:20 <vivien> Meeting: W3C TPAC Intro Day Session
03:24:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/10-intro-minutes.html vivien
03:24:47 <vivien> vivien has changed the topic to: W3C TPAC Intro Day Session -  http://www.w3.org/2013/11/10-intro-minutes.html
03:24:57 <Ralph> zakim, this is 83261
03:24:57 <Zakim> Ralph, I see Team_(rrs1)02:32Z in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be 83261".
03:25:04 <Ralph> zakim, this will be 83261
03:25:05 <Zakim> ok, Ralph; I see Team_(rrs1)02:32Z scheduled to start 53 minutes ago
03:25:10 <Ralph> zakim, call international
03:25:10 <Zakim> ok, Ralph; the call is being made
03:25:11 <Zakim> Team_(rrs1)02:32Z has now started
03:25:13 <Zakim> +International
03:25:27 <Ralph> zakim, drop international
03:25:27 <Zakim> International is being disconnected
03:25:28 <Zakim> Team_(rrs1)02:32Z has ended
03:25:28 <Zakim> Attendees were International
03:28:16 <mete> q+ to ask difference between ig,wg etc. and how they initially start
03:28:29 <vivien> q?
03:28:36 <vivien> ack mete
03:28:36 <Zakim> mete, you wanted to ask difference between ig,wg etc. and how they initially start
03:29:23 <kenny> join  #indie-ui
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03:34:22 <mnot1> Ralph: I did above (perhaps not completely)
03:34:28 <Ralph> [Ralph wonders if MNot wants to explain the difference between off the record and on the record remarks]
03:34:33 <Ralph> [ah, ok mnot]
03:34:39 <mnot1> oh, not in brackets
03:34:50 <mnot1> please do :)
03:34:52 <Ralph> [I also observe that the convential scribe syntax is:
03:35:00 <Ralph> Chaals: we will make that change ...
03:35:06 <mnot1> I'd be nice to write all this down in one place
03:35:29 <Ralph> [attributing the remark to Chaals, where as "Chaals, please speak up" is addressing the remark to chaals]
03:35:37 <Ralph> MNot++ on time management
03:35:50 <Ralph> s/on time/for time/
03:36:04 <vivien> Zakim, gave 2 minutes to chaals
03:36:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'gave 2 minutes to chaals', vivien
03:36:07 <vivien> Zakim, give 2 minutes to chaals
03:36:07 <Zakim> I don't understand 'give 2 minutes to chaals', vivien
03:36:26 <Ralph> zakim, allow speakers 2 minutes
03:36:26 <Zakim> ok, Ralph
03:36:30 <Ralph> ack chaalsa
03:37:13 <mnot1> Virginie: +1
03:38:27 <Yinghua> Ralph,If time allows, could you give an example about how W3C drafting a standard?
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03:39:00 <Ralph> Yinghua, I'm happy to try to answer more questions
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04:25:03 <Ralph> zakim, bye
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04:25:06 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye
04:25:06 <RRSAgent> I see no action items