20:00:45 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #aapi
20:00:45 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-irc
20:00:47 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs member
20:00:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
20:00:49 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM scheduled to start now
20:00:50 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
20:00:50 <trackbot> Date: 05 November 2013
20:00:59 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM has now started
20:01:01 <Zakim> +Bryan_Garaventa
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20:01:35 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
20:01:50 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
20:02:19 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!
20:02:19 <Zakim> +David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!; got it
20:02:39 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:02:39 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
20:02:48 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:02:48 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:02:55 <clown> zakim, who's here?
20:02:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bryan_Garaventa, David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!, Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:02:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see bgaraventa1979, RRSAgent, clown, MichaelC, davidb, Zakim, trackbot
20:03:10 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla is David_Bolter
20:03:10 <Zakim> sorry, davidb, I do not recognize a party named 'Mozilla'
20:03:20 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes.', clown.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
20:03:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:04:06 <clown> chair:  Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:04:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:05:16 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla left David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!
20:05:16 <Zakim> davidb, I was not aware that anyone was in David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!
20:05:31 <davidb> Zakim, David_Bolter_the_Magnificent! left Mozilla
20:05:31 <Zakim> sorry, davidb, I do not recognize a party named 'Mozilla'
20:05:51 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla no longer has David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!
20:05:51 <Zakim> sorry, davidb, I do not recognize a party named 'Mozilla'
20:06:24 <davidb> Zakim, forget David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!
20:06:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'forget David_Bolter_the_Magnificent!', davidb
20:06:51 <davidb> Zakim, David_Bolter_the_Magnificent! is probably David_Bolter
20:06:51 <Zakim> +David_Bolter?; got it
20:07:00 <clown> scribenick:  clown
20:07:20 <Zakim> +??P3
20:07:24 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P3 is Michael_Cooper
20:07:24 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
20:07:26 <davidb> zakim, David_Bolter? is David_Bolter
20:07:26 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
20:07:31 <MichaelC> zakim, David is David_Bolter
20:07:31 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
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20:09:13 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:09:32 <MichaelC> zakim, microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
20:09:32 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:11:14 <clown> agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Nov/0000.html
20:11:24 <clown> Topic:  Issues/Actions
20:11:41 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
20:12:01 <clown> JS:  The document is going to go last call very soon.
20:12:34 <clown> MC: It was supposed to be today, but it might not be until tomorrow but with today's date.
20:12:57 <clown> JS:  there are two issues and one action in the list for the UAIG.
20:13:22 <clown> JS:  The two issues are Michael's and they will happen when they happen.
20:14:08 <clown> MC  Right, there not important for this meeting.
20:14:24 <clown> CS:  The issue-616 is closed.  Close the action?
20:14:28 <clown> action-1284?
20:14:28 <trackbot> action-1284 -- Cynthia Shelly to Start the conversation re keeping issue-616 feature in the spec on list, realizing it may go lc at risk. we need to determine what to do by next tuesday. -- due 2013-10-29 -- CLOSED
20:14:28 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1284
20:14:48 <clown> JS:  The discussion will pick up again in the 1.1 time frame.
20:14:54 <clown> JS:  So, move the action to 1.1?
20:15:43 <clown> CS:  So, I just moved it to 1.1
20:16:38 <clown> topic:  Bugzillas.
20:16:48 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Platform%20APIs&list_id=3116&product=ARIA
20:16:54 <clown> JS:  there are two open bugs.
20:17:19 <clown> JS:  first on is :https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22131
20:18:25 <clown> JS:  I think this is a best practices issue.
20:19:33 <clown> MC: This bugzilla has component "UAIG".
20:19:45 <clown> DB:  Do we have other components for the ARIA product.
20:20:06 <clown> MC:  There is also the issue of whether to use bugzillla going foward, or how to best use it.
20:20:24 <clown> MC:  What component to use?
20:20:35 <clown> DB:  EIther "general" or "best practices".
20:20:54 <clown> s/EIther/Either/
20:21:24 <clown> MC:  Let's set up "General".
20:22:46 <clown> JS:  any way to move this bug to the new "General" component?
20:23:35 <clown> MC:  Yes, just edit the bug, and reset the component.
20:24:15 <clown> MC:  <notices an email to google>  I should change that old email address.
20:25:34 <clown> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7044
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20:26:43 <clown> CS:  That is listed a version 1.0
20:26:50 <clown> DB:  That should be changed to 2.0
20:28:17 <davidb> [discussion about bug history]
20:28:42 <clown> CS:  I looked at it back in 2009, but thought we didn't have time then.
20:28:52 <clown> DB:  We could let it lie, or move it to an issue.
20:29:24 <clown> JS:  Is it more likely to be picked up if an ARIA 2.0 issue or ARIA 1.1?
20:29:42 <clown> CS:  I think it should be an issue, and 1.1. timeframe is reasonable.
20:30:27 <clown> CS:  I can make an issue for this.
20:30:41 <clown> DB:  Let's put a link to the bugzilla in the issue.
20:32:18 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property
20:32:25 <clown> list item number 5.
20:32:59 <cyns> Bug 7044 moved to issue 628 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/628
20:33:26 <clown> Topic:  1.1. Issues and Actions
20:33:32 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/17
20:34:06 <clown> issue-398?
20:34:06 <trackbot> issue-398 -- Errata: aria-setsize and aria-posinset should apply to more than just listitem and option -- open
20:34:06 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
20:34:57 <clown> JS:  instead of posinet and setsize for grids, Chrome suggested aria-colindex and aria-rowindex.
20:35:06 <clown> CS:  Seems like a good idea.
20:35:36 <davidb> agreed
20:36:24 <clown> CS: Next week is TPAC.  Should we have this call next week?
20:36:32 <clown> CS:  I will be at TPAC.
20:36:39 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
20:36:56 <clown> JS: I will discuss it with you later, David.
20:37:05 <davidb> DB: awesome
20:37:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:37:28 <Zakim> -Bryan_Garaventa
20:38:26 <clown> s/MC Right/MC: Right/
20:38:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:38:53 <clown> s/MC Right/MC\: Right/
20:38:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:39:30 <clown> s/MC Right/MC\: Right/g
20:39:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:39:57 <clown> zakim, bye
20:39:57 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Bryan_Garaventa, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Michael_Cooper, David_Bolter, Cynthia_Shelly
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20:40:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/11/05-aapi-minutes.html clown
20:45:02 <clown> rrsagent:  please part
20:45:02 <RRSAgent> I see no action items