16:55:28 RRSAgent has joined #ua 16:55:28 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-irc 16:55:30 RRSAgent, make logs public 16:55:30 Zakim has joined #ua 16:55:32 Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG 16:55:32 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_UAWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 5 minutes 16:55:33 Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference 16:55:33 Date: 31 October 2013 16:55:41 rrsagent, set logs public 16:57:17 agenda+ finish survey 16:57:19 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/ 16:57:20 agenda+ testing & implementations 16:57:23 Greg has joined #ua 16:57:31 regrets: kelly, eric 17:00:06 WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has now started 17:00:13 +Jeanne 17:00:14 +Jim_Allan 17:00:44 Jan1 has joined #ua 17:01:10 +Greg_Lowney 17:01:25 +[IPcaller] 17:01:47 zakim, IPcaller is really Jan 17:01:47 +Jan; got it 17:02:03 KimPatch has joined #ua 17:02:18 +Kim_Patch 17:04:47 scribe: allanj 17:06:03 zakim, agenda? 17:06:03 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda: 17:06:04 1. finish survey [from allanj] 17:06:04 2. testing & implementations [from allanj] 17:09:11 China WAI groups attending- UA, IndieUI, PG 17:10:26 we will have a phone bridge over whatever time you are available 17:11:50 Monday Tues morning 9-12 (china time), 12 hours difference with east coast time 17:12:11 zakim, open item 2 17:12:11 agendum 2. "testing & implementations" taken up [from allanj] 17:12:41 will be building spreadsheet of implementation, 17:13:47 Greg will create a table of SC. 17:14:22 When we work in China, monday will be Sunday evening on East coast 17:15:07 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20131111&p1=33&p2=250&p3=234 17:15:29 on Monday from 3-5 there will be the Launch of China accessibility group (Jim and Jeanne will not be in the room) 17:15:39 Skype will be available 17:16:33 s/ we will have a phone bridge over whatever time you are available/we will NOT have a phone bridege 17:16:39 So 9-12 Monday morning in Beijing is 8-11pm Sunday ET and 5-8pm Sunday PT 17:17:33 s/we will have a phone bridge over whatever time you are available/we will NOT have a phone bridge 17:17:46 rrsagent, make minutes 17:17:46 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-minutes.html allanj 17:22:51 js: we will discuss & collect implementations, 17:23:49 ... may discuss testing, and craft items 17:24:50 gl and kp will be available the entire time, if needed. just Skype them 17:28:57 *** email Jeanne your skype name *** 17:29:46 -Jan 17:30:37 zakim, close item 2 17:30:37 agendum 2, testing & implementations, closed 17:30:38 I see 1 item remaining on the agenda: 17:30:38 1. finish survey [from allanj] 17:30:46 zakim, open item 1 17:30:46 agendum 1. "finish survey" taken up [from allanj] 17:31:06 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/ 17:35:15 topic: 2 1.4.1 1.4.2 text scale change to text size 17:35:17 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/results#xq3 17:36:52 gl: size implies point or some fixed unit, were scale is fluid 17:37:25 ... 1.4.1 should be scale for page, 1.4.2 should be size for elements 17:39:59 this was decided in 10/17 call 17:40:20 topic: 3. 1.4.1 IER 17:40:23 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20131016/results#xq4 17:44:12 gl: Proposed intent 17:44:16 Users with some types of disabilities have difficulty reading pages that use normally-formatted text. Some users with low vision, dyslexia, and related conditions cannot read normally-formatted text. However, they can read text that has a format customized to their individual needs (e.g. larger letters, different font, more spacing). On the other hand, users with some cognitive disabilities,... 17:44:17 ...or who need to reduce the number of commands they enter to scroll through a document, may need to fit more information on the screen (e.g. smaller letters or spacing). Users need to access a wide range of font sizes, styles, colors, and other attributes in order to find the combination that works best for their needs. When providing preference settings and view options, it is important to... 17:44:18 ...avoid making assumptions that would limit the user’s formatting choices. 17:47:20 Users with some cognitive disabilities, or who need to reduce the number of commands they enter to scroll through a document, may need to fit more information on the screen (e.g. smaller letters or spacing). 17:49:49 Users with some cognitive disabilities and those who need to reduce the number of commands needed to scroll through a document, may need to make adjustments so they can fit more information on the screen (e.g. smaller letters or spacing). 17:54:04 Users with some types of disabilities have difficulty reading pages that use normally-formatted text. For example, 18:00:35 allanj_ has joined #ua 18:14:22 "Lee has low vision from albinism and when the background is white, it is hard for her to read and hurts her eyes. She changes the colors in her operating system to white text on a black background. *However, many web pages specify their own colors, so she adjusts the user preferences in her browser to always use the system colors (or another set of colors of her choosing), regardless of how... 18:14:23 ...the pages are authored.*" 18:18:48 change second name to Betty-Sue who has low vision from nystagmus and ... 18:25:14 Betty Sue who has low vision from nystagmus and has difficulty seeing small fonts. The browser on her computer provides 5 font sizes. However, the largest isn't big enough. The browser settings provide an option to override the 5 font sizes with customized font range, so that Betty Sue can select the specific font size she needs. 18:26:58 Betty Sue has low vision from nystagmus and has difficulty seeing small fonts. The browser on her computer provides five font sizes. However, the largest isn't big enough. The browser settings provide an option to override the five font sizes with customized font range, so that Betty Sue can select the specific font size she needs. 18:29:02 Users with some types of disabilities have difficulty reading pages that as the author has formatted the text. 18:30:20 Users with some types of disabilities cannot read text as the author has formatted it. 18:30:46 Users with some types of disabilities cannot read text the way the author has formatted it. 18:31:37 rrsagent, make minutes 18:31:37 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-minutes.html allanj 18:32:16 -Kim_Patch 18:32:18 -Jim_Allan 18:33:54 -Greg_Lowney 18:34:01 -Jeanne 18:34:02 WAI_UAWG()1:00PM has ended 18:34:02 Attendees were Jeanne, Jim_Allan, Greg_Lowney, Jan, Kim_Patch 18:42:41 rrsagent, make logs public 18:42:48 rrsagent, make minutes 18:42:48 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-ua-minutes.html jeanne