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13:58:21 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
13:58:23 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
13:58:23 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:58:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:58:24 <trackbot> Date: 24 October 2013
13:59:47 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, kick hadleybeeman
13:59:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'kick hadleybeeman', HadleyBeeman1
14:00:20 <sandro> Zakim, drop hadleybeeman
14:00:20 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is
14:00:26 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting
14:00:28 <HadleyBeeman1> Thanks, Sandro :)
14:00:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:00:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
14:00:30 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now
14:00:31 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:00:31 <trackbot> Date: 24 October 2013
14:00:41 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, drop hadleybeeman
14:00:41 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman1, I don't know what conference this is
14:00:48 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this is gld
14:00:48 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman1, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be gld".
14:00:50 <TallTed> Zakim, this is gld
14:00:50 <Zakim> TallTed, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be gld".
14:00:55 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this will be gld
14:00:55 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman1; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now
14:01:02 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, drop hadleybeeman
14:01:03 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman1, I don't know what conference this is
14:01:03 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
14:01:11 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aaaa
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14:01:26 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
14:01:26 <Zakim> Attendees were +33.4.93.00.aaaa
14:01:39 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this is gld
14:01:39 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman1, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be gld".
14:01:44 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this will be gld
14:01:44 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman1; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now
14:01:46 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
14:01:50 <Zakim> +Sandro
14:01:53 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
14:01:54 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
14:01:54 <Zakim> -Sandro
14:01:54 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
14:01:54 <Zakim> +Sandro
14:01:56 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
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14:02:04 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:02:05 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:02:06 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:02:06 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:02:27 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
14:02:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see TallTed (muted), Sandro, HadleyBeeman
14:02:41 <gatemezin> Zakim, mute me
14:02:41 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezin, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:02:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:03:30 <Zakim> + +34.60.062.aaaa
14:03:41 <boris> zakim, aaaa is boris
14:03:42 <Zakim> +boris; got it
14:03:43 <gatemezin> Hi all.. sorry I will be on irc..
14:04:28 <hadleybeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131024
14:05:16 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: GLD-WG - latest agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131024
14:06:30 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is on the call?
14:06:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see TallTed (muted), Sandro, HadleyBeeman, [IPcaller], boris
14:06:32 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
14:06:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see TallTed (muted), Sandro, HadleyBeeman, [IPcaller], boris
14:06:44 <sandro> zakim, ipcaller is DeirdreLee
14:06:44 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee; got it
14:07:08 <sandro> gatemezin, JoaoPauloAlmeida  you folks calling in?
14:07:25 <sandro> scribe: DeirdreLee
14:07:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> sorry I need to leave
14:07:49 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I messed up the daylight saving time
14:07:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> my apologies
14:08:15 <sandro> no worries
14:09:56 <DeirdreLee> DeirdreLee: Fadi commits to one implementation for DCAT, probably on Irish Open Data that we've already been working on
14:11:43 <DeirdreLee> ACTION: hadleybeeman to follow-up with fadmaa and johnerickson on whether there are commitments for DCAT implementations
14:11:43 <trackbot> Error finding 'hadleybeeman'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.
14:12:22 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: based on timeline, we have to decide in today's call whether we are proceeding to REC track
14:12:26 <gatemezin> sandro , yesp. I called before but I was not able to listen the conf. So I dropped the call
14:12:34 <gatemezin> s/yesp/yes
14:12:54 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: there is a commitment from DERI, but not another commitment confirmed
14:14:42 <DeirdreLee> .. correction, there is another commitment confirmed from John Erickson
14:15:52 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: comment on spec from Tom Baker on DCAT spec & profile - will this effect moving to REC track? probably not, as it is more an editorial issue
14:16:44 <boris> q?
14:16:50 <boris> q+
14:17:10 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: commitment from bhyland to have updated version of best practice doc by 10th November
14:17:19 <sandro> ack boris
14:17:19 <hadleybeeman> ack boris
14:18:09 <DeirdreLee> boris: I was talking to ghislain about best practice document. What is the deadline for the updated version of this doc?
14:18:48 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: absolute deadline is the end of the year, but it would be good to have an updated version well enough in advance to account for feedback & review
14:19:32 <gatemezin> +1 to have an updated version (almost final) version by mid November
14:19:35 <DeirdreLee> boris: the URI section and xx section will be improved on in the document
14:20:04 <gatemezin> s/xx/SKOS
14:20:55 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: it would be great to finalise this document and have it approved as a WG Note by 3rd wk of Dec, so the final draft should be ready a month before, so 3rd week of Nov,
14:21:30 <DeirdreLee> .. so in order to allow for group discussion, the draft should be ready by 10th Nov
14:23:56 <DeirdreLee> @sandro if needs be, we could skip the public draft stage
14:25:01 <DeirdreLee> @hadleybeeman is any other help needed for best practice doc?
14:25:19 <sandro> PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources
14:25:23 <DeirdreLee> @boris not yet, editors will work on it first and then get back to us
14:25:33 <sandro> PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources
14:27:09 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: how terms from other vocabularies are been used with dcat should not effect the exit criteria, difference between if we're evaluation the DCAT spec or profile
14:27:38 <TallTed> +1 as sandro suggests, i.e., track (profile-based) DCAT usage broadly, with narrower (vocab-based) exit criteria
14:27:48 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: if having a separate spec and profile is causing us trouble, perhaps this will also cause issues in the transition meeting
14:28:18 <gatemezin> +1 to Sandro proposal ... I will try to help consumers like this one opendata.montpelliernumerique.fr/Les-donnees?format=rdf to use the latest version of DCAT.
14:28:36 <gatemezin> ..I hope to convince them ;-)
14:30:04 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: we need to discuss practical details of implementation and exit. But fadmaa is needed for this conversation
14:30:14 <DeirdreLee> a?
14:30:16 <DeirdreLee> q?
14:30:20 <DeirdreLee> q+
14:33:08 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: can hadleybeeman do the transition request?
14:33:52 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: most difficult part is to go through comments page and write a couple of paragraphs of an overview, and just make sure everything has been addressed
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14:34:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:34:55 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:34:55 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
14:36:39 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: describes Tom Baker's comment..
14:37:12 <DeirdreLee> .. don't think it's a blocking issue, shouldn't stop us doing CR today, but should be addressed
14:38:08 <DeirdreLee> PhilA: in two months time it's christmas eve :)
14:38:48 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: makes sense to have conversation with Fadi and John present
14:39:20 <DeirdreLee> PhilA: issue isn't specific to DCAT, it's an ongoing issue of how vocabularies/profiles fit together
14:40:46 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: investigating what public data sources w3c have and could implement as DCAT....will look into it further
14:42:24 <gatemezin> @Sandro, It could be great that work... If you need a volunteer for that, I am IN ;-)
14:42:29 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: the proposal wasn't on the agenda, so people weren't given chance to attend and voice opinion specifically
14:43:09 <DeirdreLee> .. will follow up with an email after for people to write their +1s or to object
14:43:18 <hadleybeeman> PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources. (as typed above)
14:43:22 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: +1
14:43:24 <hadleybeeman> +1
14:43:26 <DeirdreLee> +1
14:43:27 <PhilA> +1
14:43:29 <boris> +1
14:43:33 <TallTed> +1
14:43:48 <PhilA> yay!
14:43:54 <gatemezin> +1
14:44:02 <hadleybeeman> RESOLVED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources
14:48:16 <Zakim> -PhilA
14:48:19 <Zakim> -TallTed
14:48:25 <Zakim> -boris
14:48:50 <Zakim> -Sandro
14:49:01 <DeirdreLee> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:49:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/24-gld-minutes.html DeirdreLee
14:49:17 <DeirdreLee> ack DeirdreLee
14:49:50 <DeirdreLee> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-10-24
14:52:07 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee
14:52:08 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
14:52:08 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, HadleyBeeman, TallTed, +34.60.062.aaaa, boris, DeirdreLee, PhilA
15:07:35 <hadleybeeman> bye, zakim
15:07:47 <hadleybeeman> zakim, you are excused
15:07:47 <Zakim> I don't understand 'you are excused', hadleybeeman
15:07:54 <hadleybeeman> RRSagent, bye
15:07:54 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/24-gld-actions.rdf :
15:07:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: hadleybeeman to follow-up with fadmaa and johnerickson on whether there are commitments for DCAT implementations [1]
15:07:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/24-gld-irc#T14-11-43