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12:48:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
12:48:56 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
12:48:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference
12:48:57 <trackbot> Date: 16 October 2013
12:49:19 <olivier> Meeting: Web and TV IG - Media APIs TF Teleconference
12:49:38 <olivier> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0038.html
12:50:37 <olivier> Agenda+ Review of action items: https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/agenda
12:50:43 <olivier> Agenda+ Review of gap analysis
12:50:49 <olivier> Agenda+ Assign further gap analysis
12:50:49 <olivier> Agenda+ AOB
12:50:49 <olivier> Agenda+ Next meeting
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12:55:45 <kaz> zakim, code?
12:55:45 <Zakim> sorry, kaz, I don't know what conference this is
12:55:56 <kaz> zakim, this will be webtv
12:55:56 <Zakim> ok, kaz, I see UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM already started
12:56:13 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
12:56:13 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
12:56:15 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
12:56:31 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
12:56:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P17, Kazuyuki
12:56:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see kaz, Zakim, RRSAgent, olivier, trackbot, timeless
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13:01:13 <kaz> zakim, ??P17 is olivier
13:01:13 <Zakim> +olivier; got it
13:01:14 <ddavis> Zakim, ??P21 is me
13:01:14 <Zakim> +ddavis; got it
13:01:22 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:01:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see olivier, Kazuyuki, Bin_Hu, ddavis
13:01:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bin_Hu, ddavis, skim13, kaz, Zakim, RRSAgent, olivier, trackbot, timeless
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13:03:12 <olivier> zakim, ??P26 is me
13:03:12 <Zakim> +olivier; got it
13:03:21 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:03:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see olivier, Kazuyuki, Bin_Hu, ddavis, sheau, olivier.a
13:03:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sheau, Bin_Hu, ddavis, skim13, kaz, Zakim, RRSAgent, olivier, trackbot, timeless
13:03:25 <olivier> zakim, who is here?
13:03:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see olivier, Kazuyuki, Bin_Hu, ddavis, sheau, olivier.a
13:03:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see Sheau, Bin_Hu, ddavis, skim13, kaz, Zakim, RRSAgent, olivier, trackbot, timeless
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13:04:13 <kaz> zakim, olivier is ??P17
13:04:13 <Zakim> +??P17; got it
13:04:16 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
13:04:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P17, Kazuyuki, Bin_Hu, ddavis, sheau, olivier.a, gmandyam
13:04:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see gmandyam, Sheau, Bin_Hu, ddavis, skim13, kaz, Zakim, RRSAgent, olivier, trackbot, timeless
13:04:22 <kaz> zakim, olivier.a is olivier
13:04:22 <Zakim> +olivier; got it
13:04:29 <kaz> zakim, drop ??P17
13:04:29 <Zakim> ??P17 is being disconnected
13:04:31 <Zakim> -??P17
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13:05:44 <kaz> zakim, ??P17 is skim13
13:05:44 <Zakim> +skim13; got it
13:06:02 <olivier> Agenda?
13:06:22 <olivier> -> Proposed agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0038.html
13:07:05 <ddavis> scribenick: ddavis
13:07:08 <ddavis> scribe: Daniel
13:07:11 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 1
13:07:11 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Review of action items: https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/agenda" taken up [from olivier]
13:07:24 <ddavis> zakim, mute me
13:07:24 <Zakim> ddavis should now be muted
13:07:49 <ddavis> olivier: Action 146, update use cases 6 & 7 has been done, no objections.
13:07:52 <olivier> close action-146
13:07:52 <trackbot> Closed action-146.
13:08:24 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Requirements
13:08:24 <ddavis> olivier: Action 147, edit requirements doc & link to spreadsheet - done.
13:08:32 <olivier> close action-147
13:08:32 <trackbot> Closed action-147.
13:09:11 <ddavis> olivier: Action 140, Sheau to split service & device discovery in requirements doc.
13:09:16 <olivier> close action-140
13:09:16 <trackbot> Closed action-140.
13:09:18 <ddavis> Sheau: Done
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13:09:35 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Requirements#Network_Selection
13:09:40 <ddavis> olivier: Action 141, requirement on network selection - done.
13:09:42 <kaz> Present: Kaz, Bin, Daniel, Sheau, Olivier, Giri
13:09:54 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:09:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:09:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-minutes.html kaz
13:10:04 <ddavis> s/ - done//
13:10:18 <ddavis> gmandyam: I just need to add hyperlinks on the Google spreadsheet
13:10:52 <olivier> close action-141
13:10:52 <trackbot> Closed action-141.
13:10:57 <ddavis> olivier: If we're happy, let's close 141
13:11:12 <ddavis> olivier: That's all the action items for this Task Force
13:11:14 <olivier> zakim, close agendum 1
13:11:14 <Zakim> agendum 1, Review of action items: https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/agenda, closed
13:11:16 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
13:11:16 <Zakim> 2. Review of gap analysis [from olivier]
13:11:20 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 2
13:11:20 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Review of gap analysis" taken up [from olivier]
13:11:58 <olivier> * Gap Analysis on Requirement 9 "Context-based and targeted Service Aggregation" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0028.html
13:12:01 <olivier> * Gap Analysis on Requirement 17 "Tuner Control" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0029.html
13:12:04 <olivier> * Gap Analysis on Requirement 18 "Channel Identification" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0031.html
13:12:07 <olivier> * Gap Analysis on Requirement 19 "Content Streaming" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0032.html
13:12:09 <ddavis> olivier: There were a number of mails on the list about the gap analysis
13:13:20 <ddavis> olivier: Requirements 9, 17, 18, 19 had good suggestions of gaps
13:13:26 <kaz> present+ wyhun
13:13:54 <ddavis> olivier: All specs mentioned in those requirement analysis are not W3C specs.
13:14:29 <ddavis> olivier: We could look at those specs to see if they do what we need and whether we need to add features to the web platform.
13:14:45 <olivier> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0028.html
13:14:51 <ddavis> olivier: Let's look at GA for Req 9.
13:15:07 <ddavis> olivier: Related spec is Hybrid broadcast for broadband TV
13:15:43 <ddavis> olivier: There are a number of gaps. ETSI people, please could you talk more about it?
13:16:04 <ddavis> skim13: The existing spec has similar features to the application we've defined.
13:16:37 <olivier> s/ETSI people/ETRI people/
13:16:45 <olivier> http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/102700_102799/102796/01.02.01_60/ts_102796v010201p.pdf
13:16:48 <kaz> s/ for broadband/broadband/
13:16:57 <ddavis> skim13: Maybe we can re-use some of what's in the spec
13:17:33 <ddavis> olivier: So the recommendation is to re-use some of the concepts, but we'll need to see how that relates to W3C-based web platform architecture.
13:17:48 <ddavis> olivier: Is there any volunteer to look into these features?
13:18:45 <ddavis> Zakim, unmute e
13:18:45 <Zakim> sorry, ddavis, I do not know which phone connection belongs to e
13:18:47 <ddavis> Zakim, unmute me
13:18:47 <Zakim> ddavis should no longer be muted
13:19:43 <ddavis> ACTION: ddavis to look into what features of existing non-W3C specs can be re-used in web platform for Gap Analysis of Req 9
13:19:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-152 - Look into what features of existing non-w3c specs can be re-used in web platform for gap analysis of req 9 [on Daniel Davis - due 2013-10-23].
13:20:03 <ddavis> zakim, mute me
13:20:03 <Zakim> ddavis should now be muted
13:20:03 <olivier> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2013Oct/0029.html
13:20:12 <ddavis> olivier: Moving on to req 17
13:20:13 <kaz> q+
13:20:34 <olivier> ack kaz
13:20:43 <ddavis> olivier: There is a related spec that seems to have this feature already
13:21:10 <ddavis> kaz: Does the action item for Daniel include other specs as well, e.g. NHK's Hybridcast, not just HbbTV?
13:21:23 <ddavis> olivier: Possibly. Probably a good idea to start with just one and see how we go.
13:21:46 <ddavis> olivier: Either we don't do anything, we need to integrate something or @@@
13:22:10 <gmandyam> q+
13:22:14 <ddavis> olivier: E.g. GA for Req 17, the feature in the existing spec should probably be replicated at the JavaScript level.
13:22:19 <olivier> ack gmandyam
13:22:42 <kaz> i/Either/kaz: ok.  So Daniel can start with HbbTV
13:22:49 <ddavis> gmandyam: Is there are requirement for a specific format for ESG? Is it left up to the service implementation?
13:23:19 <ddavis> olivier: Good question. I think what we were talking about is that ESG is more of an implementation that uses several of the requirements we have
13:23:29 <ddavis> olivier: E.g. exposing channels and controlling them.
13:24:02 <ddavis> gmandyam: I agree with that. We support ATSC 3.0 which has different requirements.
13:24:26 <Sheau> +q
13:24:28 <ddavis> gmandyam: I'm not seeing any direct dependencies on any particular ESG so I think we're OK.
13:24:48 <ddavis> olivier: maybe we should clarify this when we publish our findings.
13:25:02 <ddavis> olivier: We might want to make it clear in our use cases.
13:25:13 <ddavis> olivier: The Tablet EPG is somewhat similar.
13:25:18 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Use_Cases
13:25:26 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Use_Cases#3._.22Use_Case_Three_.E2.80.93_Tablet_EPG.22
13:25:39 <olivier> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvACjV6qSvmxdEctdjYwa2JOalZLOG10elE1LVRZNlE#gid=0
13:26:09 <ddavis> olivier: The EPG use case is covered by a number of requirements.
13:26:25 <ddavis> olivier: That has been our approach so far - EPG/ESG are served by our requirements.
13:26:30 <ddavis> Zakim, unmute me
13:26:30 <Zakim> ddavis should no longer be muted
13:26:42 <olivier> ack Sheau
13:26:44 <ddavis> zakim, mute me
13:26:44 <Zakim> ddavis should now be muted
13:27:12 <ddavis> Sheau: Some of these topics are probably going to be worked on by ATSC 3.0 as well.
13:27:32 <ddavis> Sheau: So this gap analysis is looking back rather than looking sideways. Other organisations are surely working on these issues.
13:27:42 <gmandyam> q+
13:27:45 <ddavis> Sheau: I believe we have a liaison with some of these groups already.
13:27:50 <olivier> ack gmandyam
13:27:55 <ddavis> Sheau: What should we do?
13:28:18 <ddavis> gmandyam: With the ATSC, I'm putting together a draft with a listing of the relevant requirements for v. 3.0.
13:28:33 <ddavis> gmandyam: ATSC has already prepared a liaison, not sent yet.
13:29:03 <ddavis> gmandyam: Starting with the gap analysis on the HbbTV doc will satisfy a lot of the ATSC requirements, this group should receive a liaison to take care of this.
13:29:16 <ddavis> Sheau: We're already very active on ATSC 3.0
13:29:30 <ddavis> Sheau: Maybe we can expedite things or explore further
13:29:55 <ddavis> gmandyam: These liaisons are being created by the ATSC S34 group which deals with the presentation layer.
13:30:37 <ddavis> olivier: Would we, as a group consider HbbTV or ATSC standards good enough or would we need another specification elsewhere to tackle these requirements.
13:31:06 <ddavis> olivier: I would say as long as there's a way for us to refer to those works in progress, we should say in our analysis when we know of similar work elsewhere.
13:31:19 <ddavis> olivier: It doesn't seem honest and useful to just ignore similar external work.
13:31:39 <ddavis> Sheau: I wonder whether we would, through the liaison, put forward our desire.
13:32:17 <kaz> q+ to count IPTVF-J as well, because they already have an official liaison with W3C
13:32:28 <ddavis> Sheau: Insofar as ATSC falls within an HTML/browser environment, that falls inside HTTP protocol and we should ensure there is minimal divergence between the two groups.
13:32:55 <ddavis> Sheau: If ATSC starts using HTTP or some W3C protocol, we need to be aligned.
13:32:58 <olivier> ack kaz
13:33:06 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to count IPTVF-J as well, because they already have an official liaison with W3C
13:33:30 <ddavis> kaz: We should include IP TV Forum Japan as well.
13:33:45 <ddavis> olivier: Does OIPF count as well?
13:33:47 <kaz> s/IP TV Forum/IPTV Forum/
13:33:55 <ddavis> olivier: Should we have a liaison with OIPF as well?
13:34:18 <ddavis> kaz: We do have a liaison with OIPF as well
13:34:36 <kaz> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/11/StdLiaison Liaison table
13:34:55 <ddavis> olivier: Let's move on - looking at the spreadsheet
13:34:57 <olivier> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvACjV6qSvmxdEctdjYwa2JOalZLOG10elE1LVRZNlE#gid=1
13:35:53 <ddavis> olivier: There are a number of existing W3C specs, at different stages of progress, and the spreadsheet tries to match them with our requirements.
13:36:02 <ddavis> olivier: We should review and edit them a bit.
13:36:46 <ddavis> olivier: In column G, Giuseppe asked the point of including this - it's not a specification.
13:37:02 <ddavis> olivier: I'd suggest dropping this because we have Media Source Extensions to cover this.
13:37:04 <ddavis> +1
13:37:13 <ddavis> +2
13:37:25 <Sheau> +1
13:37:43 <ddavis> olivier: OK, done
13:37:55 <ddavis> olivier: NSD API is the most worked-on column so far
13:37:58 <ddavis> q+
13:38:10 <ddavis> zakim, unmute me
13:38:10 <Zakim> ddavis should no longer be muted
13:38:36 <olivier> ack ddavis
13:39:41 <ddavis> ddavis: I had a hard time understanding the difference between "aggregation of services" and "service discovery"
13:40:20 <ddavis> olivier: One way we can say that is that NSD allows you to aggregate with some work by content creators on top.
13:41:07 <ddavis> olivier: I think there are two meanings we should show in the table.
13:41:37 <ddavis> olivier: One is that the spec doesn't cover it but it should (e.g. red cross), the other is that we're not sure (e.g. a yellow question mark)
13:42:52 <ddavis> olivier: So a red cross would mean the requirement is not possible with the current version of that spec.
13:43:15 <ddavis> olivier: At the end of this process, we should have a number of requirements for different groups - the red crosses would indicate this.
13:43:40 <ddavis> olivier: No objections - let's go with that symbol/colour choice.
13:44:15 <ddavis> olivier: Giuseppe says, in row 8, column B, he doesn't think NSD is in scope to handle authentication.
13:46:10 <ddavis> ddavis: Security is being discussed re. NSD API with the DAP WG, so some kind of authentication could be being looked at.
13:46:16 <ddavis> olivier: Let's put it as a question mark.
13:46:38 <ddavis> olivier: Tuner control, could this be covered by a different spec and not NSD API?
13:46:48 <gmandyam> q+
13:46:54 <olivier> ack gmandyam
13:47:12 <ddavis> gmandyam: The NSD API is meant to cover UPnP, Bonjour, etc.
13:47:37 <ddavis> gmandyam: I thought tuner control was something more general than that, so I don't know why you'd want to shoehorn that into NSD.
13:47:42 <ddavis> ddavis: I agree
13:47:56 <ddavis> olivier: Let's say there's some doubt as to whether this is the right place for it.
13:48:41 <ddavis> olivier: Given the difference in opinion, this is a question mark.
13:48:57 <ddavis> olivier: Given the time, let's move on to column G which I've worked on.
13:49:09 <ddavis> olivier: Maybe we can then assign different columns to different people.
13:49:22 <ddavis> olivier: Column G is EME.
13:49:42 <ddavis> olivier: At the bottom of the list of requirements, row 25 & 26, EME is all about content protection.
13:50:07 <ddavis> olivier: Looking at the spec, it seems that offline protection could be taken care of by EME.
13:50:29 <ddavis> olivier: EME only provides an interface to the content decryption module (CDM).
13:50:43 <ddavis> olivier: The CDM could be online or offline, so I think EME covers this requirement.
13:51:09 <ddavis> Sheau: I'd like to confirm that with Mark Vickers.
13:51:40 <ddavis> olivier: I sent an email about this earlier which maybe Mark can answer. I think it should be a "yes" but let's put it as a question mark for now.
13:52:15 <ddavis> olivier: I believe EME can also be used for device authentication (row 8)
13:52:35 <ddavis> olivier: Regarding row 11, Local Access Control, I don't know if this is what EME should be able to do.
13:52:42 <olivier> q?
13:52:45 <ddavis> olivier: So I'm putting that as a question mark
13:53:39 <ddavis> olivier: Would anyone like to commit to looking into a particular spec, for example WebRTC?
13:54:00 <ddavis> gmandyam: I can look into it, but in what context?
13:54:39 <ddavis> gmandyam: WebRTC is a peer-to-peer tech - how does it relate to TV?
13:55:21 <ddavis> ddavis: Something like the "Device-to-device content transfer" could be relevant.
13:55:37 <ddavis> gmandyam: There could be issues with content protection there.
13:56:00 <olivier> ACTION: gmandyam to look through WebRTC column in gap analysis document - due in 2 weeks
13:56:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-153 - Look through webrtc column in gap analysis document [on Giridhar Mandyam - due 2013-10-30].
13:56:38 <ddavis> olivier: There's already been an entry for Web Storage. Do we have a volunteer to look at Web Storage and File API together please?
13:57:18 <ddavis> Sheau: Generally we would want a qualification who knows something about the particular spec, right?
13:57:32 <ddavis> olivier: Yes, even for a first pass, an educated guess would be good.
13:57:57 <ddavis> Sheau: I would volunteer for either web Storage or Media Source Extensions, but not within the next 2 weeks
13:58:50 <olivier> ACTION: Sheau to look through Web Storage column in the gap analysis doc - due in 4 weeks
13:58:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-154 - Look through web storage column in the gap analysis doc [on Sheau Ng - due 2013-11-13].
13:58:51 <ddavis> olivier: The goal is to have most of it done by the time we meet at TPAC
13:58:52 <ddavis> q+
13:58:56 <olivier> ack ddavis
13:59:31 <ddavis> ddavis: We should note in the spreadsheet who's looking at each spec and whether the analysis has been done.
13:59:41 <ddavis> olivier: I'll do that at the top of each column.
14:00:28 <ddavis> olivier: Any other specs that someone could take a look at? Would be good to get about a half done.
14:01:02 <ddavis> olivier: You don't have to be an expert - just read through the spec a bit to understand it roughly.
14:01:24 <olivier> ACTION: olivier to look through MSE column in gap analysis
14:01:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-155 - Look through mse column in gap analysis [on Olivier Thereaux - due 2013-10-23].
14:01:39 <olivier> ACTION: bin to look through server-sent events columns in gap analysis doc
14:01:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Look through server-sent events columns in gap analysis doc [on Bin Hu - due 2013-10-23].
14:01:50 <olivier> ACTION: bin to look through push api column in gap analysis doc
14:01:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-157 - Look through push api column in gap analysis doc [on Bin Hu - due 2013-10-23].
14:02:15 <ddavis> olivier: Any other volunteers for another column?
14:04:28 <ddavis> ddavis: Manifest for Web Applications is probably not going to be worked on further.
14:04:28 <olivier> ACTION: sheau to look through manifest/appcache column, to be used as input for service worker - due in 4 weeks
14:04:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-158 - Look through manifest/appcache column, to be used as input for service worker [on Sheau Ng - due 2013-11-13].
14:04:46 <olivier> ACTIOM: sheau to look through messaging api  column - due in 4 weeks
14:04:58 <olivier> ACTION: sheau to look through messaging api  column - due in 4 weeks
14:04:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-159 - Look through messaging api  column [on Sheau Ng - due 2013-11-13].
14:05:00 <ddavis> ddavis: We can see what Manifest for Web Apps covers already, but we probably can't get new features added to it. Instead, they may be added to ServiceWorker.
14:05:29 <olivier> zakim, close agendum 2
14:05:29 <Zakim> agendum 2, Review of gap analysis, closed
14:05:30 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:05:30 <Zakim> 3. Assign further gap analysis [from olivier]
14:05:30 <ddavis> olivier: Thanks everyone. We have some good coverage there and can use the mailing list for me.
14:05:37 <olivier> zakim, close agendum 3
14:05:37 <Zakim> agendum 3, Assign further gap analysis, closed
14:05:38 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:05:38 <Zakim> 4. AOB [from olivier]
14:05:49 <ddavis> q+
14:05:57 <olivier> ack ddavis
14:06:25 <olivier> ddavis: bizdev - we are interested in work of the IG. put a summary into a slide deck
14:06:34 <olivier> ... and pointed to UC&R documents
14:06:39 <olivier> q+
14:06:43 <olivier> ack me
14:07:36 <kaz> q+
14:07:38 <kaz> q-
14:07:52 <olivier> ack kaz
14:08:04 <ddavis> action: ddavis to forward slide deck of use cases to TV IG
14:08:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-160 - Forward slide deck of use cases to tv ig [on Daniel Davis - due 2013-10-23].
14:09:23 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:09:23 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Next meeting" taken up [from olivier]
14:09:50 <kaz> s/bizdev/the W3C Business Development Team/
14:09:55 <ddavis> olivier: Next meeting is on 30th October. Is that OK with everyone?
14:10:16 <ddavis> olivier: No objections so that's confirmed.
14:10:38 <ddavis> olivier: That's all for today - let's continue on the mailing list.
14:10:54 <Zakim> -sheau
14:10:54 <ddavis> olivier: Thanks everyone, have a good morning/day/evening/night.
14:10:55 <Zakim> -gmandyam
14:10:57 <Zakim> -Bin_Hu
14:10:57 <Zakim> -olivier
14:11:00 <skim13> skim13 has left #webtv
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14:11:00 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
14:11:02 <Zakim> -ddavis
14:11:13 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
14:11:23 <ddavis> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:11:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-minutes.html ddavis
14:11:36 <kaz> regrets: Giuseppe, JC, Mark
14:11:44 <kaz> Chair: Olivier
14:11:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:11:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-minutes.html kaz
14:13:22 <Zakim> -skim13
14:13:23 <Zakim> UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM has ended
14:13:23 <Zakim> Attendees were Kazuyuki, Bin_Hu, ddavis, sheau, gmandyam, olivier, skim13
14:19:15 <olivier> I can add the link on the wiki when you send the minutes link to the ML
14:19:21 <olivier> zakim, bye
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14:19:27 <olivier> rrsagent, bye
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-actions.rdf :
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ddavis to look into what features of existing non-W3C specs can be re-used in web platform for Gap Analysis of Req 9 [1]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T13-19-43
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: gmandyam to look through WebRTC column in gap analysis document - due in 2 weeks [2]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T13-56-00
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sheau to look through Web Storage column in the gap analysis doc - due in 4 weeks [3]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T13-58-50
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: olivier to look through MSE column in gap analysis [4]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T14-01-24
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bin to look through server-sent events columns in gap analysis doc [5]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T14-01-39
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bin to look through push api column in gap analysis doc [6]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T14-01-50
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: sheau to look through manifest/appcache column, to be used as input for service worker - due in 4 weeks [7]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T14-04-28-1
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: sheau to look through messaging api  column - due in 4 weeks [8]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T14-04-58
14:19:27 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ddavis to forward slide deck of use cases to TV IG [9]
14:19:27 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/16-webtv-irc#T14-08-04
14:19:35 <ddavis> Thanks olivier