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14:58:35 <ericP> Zakim, this will be hcls
14:58:35 <Zakim> ok, ericP; I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:59:25 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-gvoice
14:59:25 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
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14:59:58 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
14:59:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see EricP
14:59:59 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, TallTed, ericP
15:01:13 <Zakim> +Tony
15:02:09 <Zakim> +Kerstin_Forsberg
15:02:27 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2013/ShEx/SimpleShExDemo
15:04:10 <Zakim> +Mike_Denny
15:05:45 <Zakim> +EmoryFry
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15:07:04 <ericP> scribenick: ericP
15:07:20 <ericP> topic: US FDA Therapeutic Areas
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15:16:07 <ericP> ericP: [FDA TA summary]
15:16:26 <ericP> eafry: what of the TAs will the OWL capture?
15:16:34 <ericP> ... data, workflow, everything?
15:16:45 <ericP> ... how does that differ from BRIDG
15:17:56 <ericP> ericP: when people work in BRIDG, what's their wire protocol?
15:18:27 <ericP> eafry: mostly UML. emphasis is on data capture and persistance for aggregation across studies
15:19:05 <ericP> kerstin: i think many people talk about BRIDG but few have done anything with it
15:19:33 <ericP> ... as i understand the TA, they will work on model but also units and data elements.
15:19:40 <ericP> ... overlaps with SNOMED-CT
15:20:44 <ericP> ... CDISC is doing a concept map which they can connect to BRIDG and data pipes
15:21:03 <ericP> ... the ISO21090 data pipes is in focus
15:21:51 <ericP> ericP: example of a q from CRF?
15:22:22 <ericP> kerstin: a bunch of initiatives are talking about tying this all together
15:23:27 <ericP> eafry: i asked because i'm tyring to see how the concept maps fit into this
15:23:45 <ericP> ... OWL can be used to model lots of levels
15:23:59 <ericP> ... BRIDG is, in my mind, a domain model
15:24:22 <ericP> ... in concepts maps, you're trying to represent cognitive processes
15:27:32 <ericP> ericP: as i understand it, they're using concept maps as a gui tool to interface with domain experts.
15:29:23 <ericP> ericP: who'm do we tap?
15:29:35 <eafry> Brian Moon <brian@perigeantechnologies.com>
15:29:45 <ericP> eafry: Robert Hoffman, founder of concept maps
15:30:05 <ericP> s/founder/forefather/
15:30:28 <ericP> eafry: Brian helped us with pragmatic issues
15:30:46 <ericP> ... they're working on a tool to map to OWL.
15:31:55 <ericP> ... they're working on the CMaps to OWL. could help there
15:33:57 <ericP> Guoqian: work with CIMI
15:34:40 <ericP> ... CIMI is building common formalismms that will be converted to other syntaxes, like OWL
15:35:01 <ericP> ... people are working on a common model
15:35:23 <ericP> ... currently OpenEHR archetype tooling
15:35:35 <ericP> ... the other direction is UML models
15:36:12 <ericP> ... talk to Harold and Dave Carlson about the "Archetype Modeling Language"
15:36:51 <ericP> ... there are existing tool to convert archetytpes to OWL
15:39:22 <ericP> Guoqian: is IBM going to build the TA from scratch? work from some base doc? grab codes from e.g. SNOMED-CT?
15:43:27 <ericP> ericP: my impression is that they are using a standard in-house methodology to extract knowledge from domain experts
15:43:37 <ericP> topic: FHIR as RDF
15:47:53 <ericP> ericP: [outlined work, asked for volunteers]
15:48:14 <ericP> Zakim, call ericP-mobile
15:48:14 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
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15:48:32 <Zakim> -EricP
15:48:39 <Mike> for Cmap OWL = COE http://www.ihmc.us/groups/coe/
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16:06:37 <Zakim> -Tony
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