15:59:46 RRSAgent has joined #html-wg 15:59:46 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/10/10-html-wg-irc 15:59:48 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:59:48 Zakim has joined #html-wg 15:59:50 Zakim, this will be html_wg 15:59:50 ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute 15:59:51 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference 15:59:51 Date: 10 October 2013 15:59:51 HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started 15:59:55 +??P5 15:59:58 + +1.425.444.aaaa 16:00:00 +Plh 16:00:03 zakim, ??P5 is me 16:00:03 +janina; got it 16:00:18 +glenn 16:00:30 zakim, aaaa is Erika 16:00:30 +Erika; got it 16:00:51 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013OctDec/0004.html 16:00:54 Chair: plh 16:01:09 +[Microsoft] 16:01:10 agenda+ action items 16:01:18 agenda+ Items closing this week 16:01:25 agenda+ Items closing Next Week 16:01:27 zakim, aaaa has me 16:01:27 sorry, edoyle, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' 16:01:34 Zakim Microsoft is krisk 16:01:34 + +1.626.379.aabb 16:01:52 Zakim, Microsoft is krisk 16:01:52 +krisk; got it 16:01:53 agenda+ Task Force Reports 16:01:59 agenda+ Other Business 16:02:02 zakim, aaaa has edoyle 16:02:02 sorry, edoyle, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' 16:02:10 agenda+ Next meeting 16:02:22 zakim, aabb is Daniel 16:02:22 +Daniel; got it 16:03:12 I can scribe since TBD is not going to be able to make the meeting 16:03:15 scribe: krisk 16:03:38 zakim, move to next agendum 16:03:38 agendum 1. "action items" taken up [from plh] 16:03:52 action-229? 16:03:52 action-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-10-10 -- OPEN 16:03:52 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229 16:04:06 see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2013May/0016.html 16:04:12 Status: Robin/PLH to ping TAG; editors to confirm stylesheet 16:04:56 plh I believe we have heard back form TAG and when paul is back we can move forward 16:04:56 action-230? 16:04:56 action-230 -- Paul Cotton to Report on chairs plan for work on dom4 -- due 2013-10-10 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:04:56 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/230 16:05:06 see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0030.html 16:05:15 close action-230 16:05:15 Closed action-230. 16:05:20 zakim, move to next agendum 16:05:20 agendum 2. "Items closing this week" taken up [from plh] 16:05:22 A call went out for editors 16:05:34 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0030.html 16:05:58 zakim, move to next agendum 16:05:58 agendum 2 was just opened, plh 16:06:04 zakim, close agendum 2 16:06:04 agendum 2, Items closing this week, closed 16:06:05 I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 16:06:05 3. Items closing Next Week [from plh] 16:06:05 zakim, move to next agendum 16:06:06 agendum 3. "Items closing Next Week" taken up [from plh] 16:06:07 If you are intrested in being an editor please ping the editors 16:06:15 ..soon since it ends tomorroww 16:06:18 + +1.818.954.aacc 16:06:33 CyrilRa has joined #HTML-WG 16:06:38 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0031.html 16:07:07 This closes on Monday - no feedback yet on the lsit 16:07:13 s/lsit/list/ 16:07:19 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0035.html 16:07:34 This is for CfC for First Public Working Draft of HTML Ruby Extensions 16:07:55 closing on Oct 15th and this will use the new dual license 16:08:08 contact the Chairs if you need more time 16:08:33 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Sep/0010.html 16:08:37 Finally we have last call for MSE Last Call which closes Thursday, Oct 17 16:08:54 Please speak up before next thursday 16:09:00 zakim, move to next agendum 16:09:01 agendum 4. "Task Force Reports" taken up [from plh] 16:09:15 subtopic: Testing Task Force 16:09:32 Kris: Erika is going to help a bit on the testing front 16:09:39 ... from Microsoft 16:09:52 ... Robin is going to update the Canvas test 16:09:54 ... so the test runs properly 16:10:20 ... we have agreement to move canvas tets from master to CR once those are fixed. 16:10:40 ... acessibility for longtests, looking for feedback 16:10:52 ... the tests are focusing on data URIs 16:11:00 ... but there are probably more general cases to tests 16:11:11 ... would be good to move the tests to web-platform-tests 16:11:20 ... nothing seems to prevent them from using testharness.js 16:11:29 Janina: we'll probably need some help here 16:11:37 chaals has joined #html-wg 16:11:50 sure 16:11:56 Denis Ah-Kang 16:12:37 PLh: Denis is going to help on the HTML5 testing from the W3C staff 16:12:54 SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force 16:13:12 jania: we have a number of items going on 16:13:51 janina: We will have a CFC for working with PF 16:14:19 janina: We continue to work on longdesc tests and have gotten some feedback 16:15:25 janina: We approval from the WCAG on 4.8.8.1 16:16:16 janina: This is update is in the 5.1 nightly and we are hoping that with more consensus we can move this back into 5.0 16:16:27 + +1.206.850.aadd 16:16:32 plh: What is the plan to move it back to 5.0? 16:16:52 zakim, aadd is Eliott 16:16:52 +Eliott; got it 16:17:02 janina: I have not heard about the when and how to do this specifically 16:17:26 janina: We have been spending time looking at MSE and EME specs 16:18:14 janina: We think the EME may need to be updated so that encrypted text/captions can be exposed 16:18:27 janina: This has been a problem in the past with e-books 16:18:46 janina: This looks more like an issue due to omission 16:18:59 janina: I will bring this up specifically to paul 16:19:19 plh: Has this been discussed before? 16:19:36 glenn: This came up at the F2F at paypal 16:20:07 SteveF has joined #html-wg 16:20:29 glenn: Chaals mentioned at the F2F that some content providers may not wish to expose text/captions to be copyed 16:20:44 SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force 16:21:02 plh: Next week is a last call for MSE 16:21:05 zakim, move to next agendum 16:21:05 agendum 5. "Other Business" taken up [from plh] 16:21:18 Passive permission CR exit criteria status - HTML spec: 16:21:24 see https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18490#c12 16:21:30 see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0008.html 16:21:41 plh: Erika can you update us on this item? 16:22:27 Erika: Yes I am working on resolving this in the next few days and may result in another bug 16:22:38 Passive permission CR exit criteria status - Canvas spec: 16:23:00 delayed until early Nov to resolve due to vacations 16:23:08 see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0009.html 16:23:43 janina: I belive we wanted to wait until the end of this quater to see if we get more implementations on the items that are at risk 16:23:52 WG Decision to publish HTML Microdata as a WG Note 16:24:12 Since we failed to find an editor 16:24:18 Returning Canvas to Last Call 16:25:08 Mike is working with Rick on updating 16:25:16 ...Editors are updating the document 16:25:41 ...once complete a LC draft will be published 16:25:49 zakim, move to next agendum 16:25:49 agendum 6. "Next meeting" taken up [from plh] 16:25:55 glenn: What about the DOM4 editor? 16:26:45 -Daniel 16:26:47 -Plh 16:26:49 -glenn 16:26:49 -Erika 16:26:50 plh: We have had a few people have responded and I expect the chairs to close for next weeks meeting 16:26:50 -janina 16:26:50 - +1.818.954.aacc 16:26:55 janina has left #html-wg 16:26:59 -Eliott 16:27:08 Meeting adjourned 16:28:03 RRSAgent, make logs public 16:28:12 rrsagent, generate minutes 16:28:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/10-html-wg-minutes.html krisk 16:29:05 -krisk 16:29:06 HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended 16:29:06 Attendees were +1.425.444.aaaa, Plh, janina, glenn, Erika, +1.626.379.aabb, krisk, Daniel, +1.818.954.aacc, +1.206.850.aadd, Eliott 16:34:26 Zakim, aacc is CyrilRa 16:34:26 sorry, CyrilRa, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc' 16:34:55 jernoble has joined #html-wg 16:38:57 cabanier has joined #html-wg 16:53:00 jernoble has joined #html-wg 17:46:39 malaclyps has joined #html-wg 18:48:54 tinkster has joined #html-wg 18:53:30 mjs has joined #html-wg 19:03:28 malaclyps has joined #html-wg 19:08:25 zakim, bye 19:08:25 Zakim has left #html-wg 19:57:56 davidb has joined #html-wg 19:58:41 mkelly has joined #html-wg 20:13:02 malaclyps has joined #html-wg 20:13:26 mkelly has joined #html-wg 20:29:12 tinkster1 has joined #html-wg 20:32:37 glenn has joined #html-wg 20:34:58 SteveF has joined #html-wg 21:15:08 sgalineau has joined #html-wg 21:24:16 mkelly has joined #html-wg 22:16:47 glenn has joined #html-wg 22:36:01 trackbot has joined #html-wg 23:07:46 gitbot has joined #html-wg 23:07:46 01[13html-tools01] 15cabanier pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/w3c/html-tools/commit/84c0df9cf246261e8b314dee2d59887e47d64edb 23:07:46 13html-tools/06master 1484c0df9 15cabanier: Added features at risk to boilerplate 23:07:46 gitbot has left #html-wg 23:10:10 gitbot has joined #html-wg 23:10:10 01[13html-tools01] 15cabanier pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/w3c/html-tools/commit/60d7ce44cfd732525a07b29e9601bad31d15ea67 23:10:10 13html-tools/06master 1460d7ce4 15cabanier: Added features at risk to boilerplate 23:10:10 gitbot has left #html-wg