14:01:06 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #i18n
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14:01:11 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #i18n
14:01:16 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:01:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:01:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:01:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 59 minutes
14:01:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:01:21 <trackbot> Date: 03 October 2013
14:01:42 <matial> I am trying to join the voice conference, but get a message saying :The conference is restricted at this time".   ???
14:02:12 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
14:02:12 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:02:20 <JcK> JcK has joined #i18n
14:02:23 <aphillip> apparently adminreq didn't process the time change request?
14:02:51 <r12a> we can set up an adhoc telecon, hold on...
14:03:03 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Oct/0000.html
14:03:04 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
14:03:04 <Zakim> sorry, r12a, I don't know what conference this is
14:03:17 <r12a> zakim, room for 6?
14:03:18 <Zakim> ok, r12a; conference Team_(i18n)14:03Z scheduled with code 26633 (CONF3) for 60 minutes until 1503Z; however, please note that capacity is now overbooked
14:03:31 <Zakim> Team_(i18n)14:03Z has now started
14:03:34 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
14:03:34 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:03:39 <Zakim> +aphillip
14:04:04 <r12a> zakim, this is conf3
14:04:04 <Zakim> r12a, this was already Team_(i18n)14:03Z
14:04:04 <aphillip> agenda+ location of editorical meeting
14:04:06 <Zakim> ok, r12a; that matches Team_(i18n)14:03Z
14:04:06 <JcK> I'm getting "conference is restricted at this time" from Zakim
14:04:13 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
14:04:13 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:04:15 <Zakim> +Richard
14:04:15 <aphillip> agenda+ RADAR
14:04:28 <aphillip> agenda+ Whither Encodings
14:04:44 <r12a> john, mati, please use the code 26633
14:04:45 <aphillip> agenda+ "Permissive Exit" email thread
14:04:59 <r12a> john, mati, please use the code 26633
14:05:06 <r12a> you should be able to join now
14:05:51 <Zakim> + +1.617.245.aaaa
14:06:03 <Zakim> +??P17
14:06:09 <aphillip> agenda+ Authoring HTML: Handling RTL Scripts
14:06:21 <aphillip> agenda+ QA Translate Flag (any unfinished business??)
14:06:34 <aphillip> agenda+ 'Tr' defaulting behavior in Vertical Text
14:06:37 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
14:06:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, Richard, +1.617.245.aaaa, ??P17
14:06:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see JcK, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, matial, r12a, trackbot
14:06:52 <r12a> zakim, ??P17 is mati
14:06:53 <Zakim> +mati; got it
14:06:53 <aphillip> zakim, +1.617.245.aaaa is JcK
14:06:53 <Zakim> +JcK; got it
14:08:36 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
14:09:04 <aphillip> agenda?
14:09:20 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
14:09:53 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
14:10:02 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/FloatingTime
14:11:13 <aphillip> close action-257
14:11:13 <trackbot> Closed action-257.
14:11:35 <aphillip> close action-260
14:11:35 <trackbot> Closed action-260.
14:14:17 <aphillip> close action-265
14:14:17 <trackbot> Closed action-265.
14:14:34 <aphillip> richard: scheduled, waiting on PLH to approve publication request
14:14:45 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
14:15:21 <aphillip> agenda?
14:15:36 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:15:36 <Zakim> agendum 2. "RADAR" taken up [from aphillip]
14:15:52 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
14:15:55 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
14:19:08 <aphillip> JcK: URNbis will issue a new LC soon, but currently waiting for a "miracle" solution to impasse
14:19:18 <aphillip> agenda?
14:19:41 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:19:41 <Zakim> agendum 1. "location of editorical meeting" taken up [from aphillip]
14:20:10 <aphillip> addison: martin asked us to discuss
14:20:21 <aphillip> ... we have generally camped out in people's hotel rooms
14:21:39 <aphillip> action: addison: ask on member list if anyone is willing to formally host the F2F
14:21:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-266 - Ask on member list if anyone is willing to formally host the f2f [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-10-10].
14:21:47 <aphillip> agenda?
14:21:57 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:21:57 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Whither Encodings" taken up [from aphillip]
14:22:31 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013OctDec/0000.html
14:23:38 <r12a> q+
14:24:03 <aphillip> ack r12a
14:35:30 <aphillip> agenda?
14:36:15 <aphillip> (discussion of situation following Anne's email)
14:36:34 <aphillip> now waiting to hear from Anne about his reasoning and response to Martin's email
14:39:59 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:39:59 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Authoring HTML: Handling RTL Scripts" taken up [from aphillip]
14:40:14 <aphillip> richard: mati gave me some useful comments which I'll incorporate
14:40:23 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/bp-html-bidi/Overview.html
14:40:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:41:12 <aphillip> richard: may not need full review
14:42:05 <aphillip> action: addison: announce intention to publish editor's copy of bp-html-bidi on winter list following richard's update
14:42:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-267 - Announce intention to publish editor's copy of bp-html-bidi on winter list following richard's update [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-10-10].
14:42:16 <aphillip> agenda?
14:43:58 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:43:58 <Zakim> agendum 6. "QA Translate Flag (any unfinished business??)" taken up [from aphillip]
14:44:11 <aphillip> action: richard: publish QA Translate Flag after incorporating comments
14:44:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-268 - Publish qa translate flag after incorporating comments [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-10-10].
14:44:39 <r12a> ACTION: Richard to add mati and najib's comment to bidi techniques doc
14:44:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-269 - Add mati and najib's comment to bidi techniques doc [on Richard Ishida - due 2013-10-10].
14:45:03 <aphillip> agenda?
14:45:32 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:45:32 <Zakim> agendum 4. ""Permissive Exit" email thread" taken up [from aphillip]
14:45:45 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2013OctDec/0002.html
14:46:35 <aphillip> richard: Paul Cotton sent an email pointing out things needing attention to get html through CR
14:46:50 <aphillip> ... the WAI people pointed to some issues
14:46:58 <aphillip> ... and the first was to do with 'lang' attribute
14:47:09 <aphillip> ... and pointed to a bug in which Amir Ahroni
14:47:22 <aphillip> ... said lang should influence dir
14:47:40 <aphillip> ... and Aharon created a separate bug about isolation
14:48:04 <aphillip> richard: I think WAI is pointed to wrong bug---they want the isolation bug
14:48:21 <aphillip> ... and the 'lang' bug needs more discussion
14:48:34 <aphillip> ... and would be applied after CR
14:49:19 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18490
14:50:48 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22326
14:51:31 <aphillip> richard: bug 18490 would leave making @lang bidi isolating
14:52:40 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23260
14:52:52 <aphillip> richard: wiating for Aharon to come back on the above bug
14:53:08 <aphillip> s/wiating/waiting/
14:53:30 <aphillip> richard: WAI thinks that isolation on @dir is important
14:53:43 <aphillip> ... but that seems to be the wrong bug for tracking it
14:55:26 <aphillip> action: addison: ping Aharon to respond to 23260 (as well as 18490/22326)
14:55:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-270 - Ping aharon to respond to 23260 (as well as 18490/22326) [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-10-10].
14:56:37 <aphillip> addison: we discussed previously and should have thread about it
14:57:16 <aphillip> richard: best for Aharon to say that previous discussion led to a different consensus, that we studied the compatibility issue
14:57:23 <aphillip> ... think we know better now
14:58:54 <aphillip> addison: I think we previously convinced Ian that there might be a compatibility issue, but we've since studied it
14:59:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:59:17 <aphillip> agenda?
15:00:01 <koji> koji has joined #i18n
15:00:43 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 7
15:00:43 <Zakim> agendum 7. "'Tr' defaulting behavior in Vertical Text" taken up [from aphillip]
15:00:54 <aphillip> we intend to take this up next week as our hour is up
15:01:07 <aphillip> zakim, code?
15:01:07 <Zakim> the conference code is 26633 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), aphillip
15:03:11 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:03:24 <aphillip> richard: Unicode 6.3 released
15:03:29 <aphillip> ... includes bidi stuff
15:04:06 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:04:38 <Zakim> -aphillip
15:04:43 <Zakim> -mati
15:04:49 <JcK> JcK has left #i18n
15:04:50 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
15:04:50 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
15:04:52 <Zakim> -Richard
15:05:21 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:05:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html r12a
15:05:34 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
15:05:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see JcK
15:05:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see koji, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, matial, r12a, trackbot
15:06:16 <aphillip> zakim, drop JcK
15:06:16 <Zakim> JcK is being disconnected
15:06:17 <Zakim> Team_(i18n)14:03Z has ended
15:06:17 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, Richard, mati, JcK
15:06:23 <aphillip> zakim, bye
15:06:23 <Zakim> Zakim has left #i18n
15:06:30 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:06:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:06:37 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
15:06:42 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
15:06:46 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:07:07 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:07:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:30:37 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
15:30:37 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-actions.rdf :
15:30:37 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: ask on member list if anyone is willing to formally host the F2F [1]
15:30:37 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-21-39
15:30:37 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: announce intention to publish editor's copy of bp-html-bidi on winter list following richard's update [2]
15:30:37 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-42-05
15:30:37 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: publish QA Translate Flag after incorporating comments [3]
15:30:37 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-44-11
15:30:37 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard to add mati and najib's comment to bidi techniques doc [4]
15:30:37 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-44-39
15:30:37 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: ping Aharon to respond to 23260 (as well as 18490/22326) [5]
15:30:37 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/03-i18n-irc#T14-55-26