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Tony is really HaroldS
aacc is mike_denny
<scribe> scribenick: ericP
JoshMandel: FHIR is a standard
for representing health care "things" as resources
... these are supposed to be easy for impelementors to grok,
i.e. simple names rather than the RIM-y names
... resources are managed using REST CRUD opperations plus
searching over a set of indexed fields
charlie: FHIR resources are
suppopsed to be disjoint but they don't have a way to enforce
that
... i hoped to do that with RDF; is that still on the
table?
JoshMandel: lloyd's aware of
it
... graham wrote a ton of custom logic (sanity checks) into the
FHIR build tool
... i think they're intersted but sounds like a research
project
Mike_: re: semantics, there's a
core set of resources plus extensions
... is it intended that the core resources map back to RIM
mappnigs
JoshMandel: they intended to
define RIM mappings, but haven't done them all
... they don't intend initially to provide computable mappings,
but just human-readable
charlie: they guessed that they
could define 100-200 resources to cover the V2/V3
messages
... they beleived that the RIM mappings could be done as
RDF/OWL.
ericP: @@ the pieces needed to connect the RIM to FHIR
JoshMandel: i'm betting on utility from the RDF representation of FHIR. not sure the mappnig will be useful
Mike_: i thought that the HL7 governance model required that extensions be submitted for approval
charlie: there's the notion of
extending anything, out side of HL7's perview
... and then there's the extensions for balloting
Mike_: is FHIR being promulgated as a usable standard without any formal semantics?
JoshMandel: there were about 1k
comments
... @@ sematnics comment?
charlie: all ballot comments are, in practics, addressed
<JoshMandel> JoshMandel: They found "You need RIM mappings" comments persuasive and will provide RIM mappings (english-language, non-computable mapptings to start)
Mike_: IPO adopted FHIR
ericP: we could use RDF
representations to map e.g. C-CDA to FHIR
... i'd expect people to want to do this outide RDF-land but i
haven't see it
Mike_: people are thinking that
there could be SemWeb value in federation
... both CDA and FHIR risk duplication
ericP: @@ two dupes, between text and machine-useful, vs. two groups defining overlapping resources
Mike_: resource duplication in extensions
JoshMandel: semantically
monotonic extensions are supposed to say
"mustUnderstand='false'"
... profiles are also defining units
ericP: @@ extensibility needed to do a smaller speck -- leave critical stuff to extensions
emory: in the middle of lots of
stuff
... haven't set up a CTS2 term server
... i should have a term server by this call next week
... we've been tlaking to kevin peterson (Mayo) about a value
set server
... will release under apache license
hsolbrig: joti patak wrote the
other value set editor
... we should be releasing an RDF data store for RDF soon
... we've been incorporating a formal impl of the value set
module
... we have a CTS2 representation of the HL7 MIF (guided by
O-RIM)
... lloyd's OWL transform doesn't use skos:broaderThan
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