IRC log of mbui on 2013-09-27
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- meeting: Model-Based UI
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- chair: Gerrit
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- scribe: Dave
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- Present: Laufe, Dave, Jaroslav, Joelle
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- Regrets: Fabio, Gaelle
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- Present+ Davide
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- Present+ Paolo
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- Regrets+ Gerrit
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- Chair: Dave
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- Topic: Abstract UI
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- http://www.w3.org/2011/mbui/drafts/abstract-ui/
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- Regrets+ Vivian
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- Vivian sent Dave the XML Schema which is now normatively linked from the draft
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- Davide: this schema is for the meta model and not for serializing AUI models.
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- Paolo: yes. it is generated automatically from the UML
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- Davide: for the task models, we chose to use a schema that could be used for serialization, and it would be good if the AUI spec was the same
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- Paolo: how did you produce the task model schema?
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- Davide: by hand
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- Davide: I could produce one for the Abstract UI if you like, but would need someone to check it against the metamodel
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- Paolo: yes, and I can check it for you.
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- Dave: is there a chance for having that for next week's call?
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- Davide: I will send Paolo a daft on Wednesday
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- Paolo: ok , I will then check it on Thursday
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- Topic: Introductory document
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- Joelle: a number of people sent comments, and Gaelle and I made such changes, see the yellow text
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- Jean wanted to have this paragraph on model-based design, and we think here is a good place.
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- Does anyone agree with this?
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- [yes]
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- s/yellow/red/
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- Joelle: an action here is for UCL to ...
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- ... we have a complementary document with additional details on use cases.
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- Jaroslav: we started to work on the separate Use Case doc at the Munich Face to Face
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- see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BnITI7AoeZAlOMiRvLW0Yt45nsx9wCT3AVTgmLDu2G0
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- Joelle: we aren't referencing the external car rental use case document, are we?
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- There is no concrete CUI example in the introductory document. I think we should have one.
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- Paolo: I see your point. The idea was to put a overview into the introductory document and full details for car rental into a separate doc.
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- Joelle: I would like to see UCL reconcile the two documents.
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- What is missing is an explicit description of the task requirements and the context of use.
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- Joelle asks Paolo if he can rewrite the Story Editor use case for consistency with the others.
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- Paolo: ok
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- (see Joelle's notes in the google doc)
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- Joelle: we are fairly close to being done ...
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- This introductory document is for people new to model-based UI, so we need to avoid going into too deep technical details.
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- Joelle: we need all of the use cases to be consistent in structure and level of details.
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- Paolo: yes, I understand that
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- Joelle: I will be busy for the next two weeks and won't be able to attend the call due to reviews
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- Dave: UCL isn't on the call so we can't action them, but Paolo, could you commit to revising the Story Editor use case for the next call.
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- Joelle: every use case owner needs to check that it is consistent with the car rental use case description.
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- Dave: UCL owns the Digital Home
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- Davide: I will ask Fabio if he can review that use case
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- Dave: UC3 is minimalistic UI, I will email Gerrit and Marc to review that one
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- Dave: UC4 is Story Editor which Paolo owns
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- Joelle: UC5 and UC6 need work from Sebastian and Gerrit.
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- Joelle: we own UC7 (migratory UI)
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- Paolo: this is a little long
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- Joelle: if you want to shorten this feel free to have a go ...
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- Paolo: this looks like two use cases
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- Laufe spots a small error and fixes it
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- Joelle: it used to be two separate use cases, do you want us to separate it again?
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- Paolo: I would leave that to your judgement
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- Joelle: I want to hear from others on this
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- Dave: let's first get all of the use cases into a consistent form before making a final decision.
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- Topic: Glossary
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- Dave: Jaroslav, you were making some changes?
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- Jaroslav: I haven't got feedback from Fabio, e.g. missing references.
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- Dave: can you send me a version for the website?
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- Jaroslav: yes, I will do that asap.
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- ... I am sure there may be some more small changes once people have reviewed the draft
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- Topic: Any other business?
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- [no]
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- Dave wishes Joelle all the best for her review!
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