09:46:55 RRSAgent has joined #mbui 09:46:55 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/09/27-mbui-irc 09:47:12 meeting: Model-Based UI 09:47:20 chair: Gerrit 09:47:28 scribe: Dave 09:47:30 scribenick: dsr 09:57:42 UW_MBUI()6:00AM has now started 09:57:44 + +55213527aaaa 09:58:56 joelle has joined #mbui 10:00:14 +Dsr 10:01:18 +[Fraunhofer] 10:02:08 + +33.4.76.51.aabb 10:02:46 Present: Laufe, Dave, Jaroslav, Joelle 10:02:55 Regrets: Fabio, Gaelle 10:03:29 +[IPcaller] 10:03:42 Present+ Davide 10:04:07 +[IPcaller.a] 10:04:28 Present+ Paolo 10:04:51 Regrets+ Gerrit 10:04:54 Chair: Dave 10:05:28 Topic: Abstract UI 10:05:43 http://www.w3.org/2011/mbui/drafts/abstract-ui/ 10:06:18 Regrets+ Vivian 10:09:11 Vivian sent Dave the XML Schema which is now normatively linked from the draft 10:11:29 Davide: this schema is for the meta model and not for serializing AUI models. 10:11:42 Paolo: yes. it is generated automatically from the UML 10:12:55 Davide: for the task models, we chose to use a schema that could be used for serialization, and it would be good if the AUI spec was the same 10:14:12 Paolo: how did you produce the task model schema? 10:14:28 Davide: by hand 10:14:56 Davide: I could produce one for the Abstract UI if you like, but would need someone to check it against the metamodel 10:15:12 Paolo: yes, and I can check it for you. 10:15:30 Dave: is there a chance for having that for next week's call? 10:15:47 Davide: I will send Paolo a daft on Wednesday 10:15:57 Paolo: ok , I will then check it on Thursday 10:16:31 Topic: Introductory document 10:17:07 Joelle: a number of people sent comments, and Gaelle and I made such changes, see the yellow text 10:18:35 Jean wanted to have this paragraph on model-based design, and we think here is a good place. 10:19:06 Does anyone agree with this? 10:19:11 [yes] 10:19:35 s/yellow/red/ 10:21:36 Joelle: an action here is for UCL to ... 10:22:08 ... we have a complementary document with additional details on use cases. 10:22:50 Jaroslav: we started to work on the separate Use Case doc at the Munich Face to Face 10:23:28 see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BnITI7AoeZAlOMiRvLW0Yt45nsx9wCT3AVTgmLDu2G0 10:24:10 Joelle: we aren't referencing the external car rental use case document, are we? 10:26:46 There is no concrete CUI example in the introductory document. I think we should have one. 10:27:56 Paolo: I see your point. The idea was to put a overview into the introductory document and full details for car rental into a separate doc. 10:28:28 Joelle: I would like to see UCL reconcile the two documents. 10:29:18 What is missing is an explicit description of the task requirements and the context of use. 10:30:48 Joelle asks Paolo if he can rewrite the Story Editor use case for consistency with the others. 10:30:51 Paolo: ok 10:31:12 (see Joelle's notes in the google doc) 10:32:28 Joelle: we are fairly close to being done ... 10:33:46 This introductory document is for people new to model-based UI, so we need to avoid going into too deep technical details. 10:34:35 Joelle: we need all of the use cases to be consistent in structure and level of details. 10:34:47 Paolo: yes, I understand that 10:36:48 Joelle: I will be busy for the next two weeks and won't be able to attend the call due to reviews 10:37:54 Dave: UCL isn't on the call so we can't action them, but Paolo, could you commit to revising the Story Editor use case for the next call. 10:38:28 Joelle: every use case owner needs to check that it is consistent with the car rental use case description. 10:39:08 Dave: UCL owns the Digital Home 10:39:28 Davide: I will ask Fabio if he can review that use case 10:40:33 Dave: UC3 is minimalistic UI, I will email Gerrit and Marc to review that one 10:40:57 Dave: UC4 is Story Editor which Paolo owns 10:41:54 Joelle: UC5 and UC6 need work from Sebastian and Gerrit. 10:42:28 Joelle: we own UC7 (migratory UI) 10:42:33 Paolo: this is a little long 10:42:59 Joelle: if you want to shorten this feel free to have a go ... 10:43:08 Paolo: this looks like two use cases 10:43:44 Laufe spots a small error and fixes it 10:45:20 Joelle: it used to be two separate use cases, do you want us to separate it again? 10:46:08 Paolo: I would leave that to your judgement 10:46:58 Joelle: I want to hear from others on this 10:47:40 Dave: let's first get all of the use cases into a consistent form before making a final decision. 10:48:01 Topic: Glossary 10:48:17 Dave: Jaroslav, you were making some changes? 10:48:45 Jaroslav: I haven't got feedback from Fabio, e.g. missing references. 10:48:57 Dave: can you send me a version for the website? 10:49:09 Jaroslav: yes, I will do that asap. 10:49:41 ... I am sure there may be some more small changes once people have reviewed the draft 10:49:53 Topic: Any other business? 10:49:56 joelle has joined #mbui 10:49:57 [no] 10:50:14 -[IPcaller.a] 10:50:15 - +33.4.76.51.aabb 10:50:16 -[IPcaller] 10:50:17 -[Fraunhofer] 10:50:25 -Dsr 10:50:28 - +55213527aaaa 10:50:29 UW_MBUI()6:00AM has ended 10:50:29 Attendees were +55213527aaaa, Dsr, [Fraunhofer], +33.4.76.51.aabb, [IPcaller] 10:50:37 Dave wishes Joelle all the best for her review! 10:50:49 rrsagent, set logs public 10:50:57 rrsagent, make minutes 10:50:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/27-mbui-minutes.html dsr 11:39:14 hbraun has joined #mbui 12:15:27 Zakim has left #mbui