08:14:30 RRSAgent has joined #xproc 08:14:30 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-xproc-irc 08:16:56 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 08:16:56 Meeting: XML Processing Model WG 08:16:56 Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/09/26-agenda 08:16:56 Date: 26/27 Sep 2013 08:16:56 Meeting: 237 08:16:56 Chair: Norm 08:16:56 Scribe: Norm 08:16:57 ScribeNick: Norm 08:17:09 ht has joined #xproc 08:17:24 Present: Norm, Henry, Jim, Alex 08:18:06 Henry Henry Henry Henry Henry Henry Henry Henry Henry 08:18:25 Henry 08:18:25 Henry 08:18:25 Henry 08:18:25 Henry 08:18:25 Henry 08:18:25 Henry 08:18:25 Henry 08:18:26 Henry 08:18:26 Henry 08:18:26 Henry 08:18:28 alexmilowski has joined #xproc 08:18:53 Topic: Agenda review, overall planning 08:19:00 -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/09/26-agenda 08:19:04 Regrets: Vojtech 08:19:09 jf_2013 has joined #xproc 08:19:16 jf_2013 has left #xproc 08:22:16 jf_2013 has joined #xproc 08:27:39 Henry: We may need more time for the profiles document 08:27:56 Norm: We could conceivably have the whole of Friday afternoon if we moved the other stuff around a bit. 08:28:13 Jim: Another face-to-face? 08:28:46 Henry: Far enough in the future that we don't have to plan it today. 08:29:10 Norm: Colocated with XML Prague is probably the next obvious opportunity. 08:30:39 ...Anyway, we can focus on that later 08:32:43 http://www.w3.org/XML/2013/xproc-charter.html 08:33:10 ACTION: A-237-01 Liam to update the charter page or link from the Processing Model WG homepage 08:34:05 Accept this agenda? 08:34:07 Accepted. 08:34:15 Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting? 08:34:15 -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/08/28-minutes 08:34:27 Accepted. 08:34:30 Topic: Next meeting: 09 Oct 2013? 08:35:26 09 Oct 2013, accepted. 08:36:58 Topic: Requirements for V.next 08:37:10 -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/docs/requirements-v2-jim.html 08:42:00 Alex raised some questions about alignment with serialization in the XQuery/XSLT 3.0 specs 08:42:25 Norm proposes retitling the "Abandon support for XPath 1.0" to "Align with XQuery/XSLT 3.0 specifications" 08:43:32 Alex: The new template stuff in XSLT 3.0, the ability to use curly braces in element content, is a lot like our p:template 08:44:19 Alex: I also wonder about the issue I raised a while back: 08:44:20 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2013May/0015.html 08:45:45 Alex: It would be unfortunate to have different semantics than XSLT 08:47:36 ACTION: A-237-02 Norm to review the curly-brace template stuff in XSLT wrt how it compares to p:template 08:52:01 Alex asks about step inventories 08:52:42 Norm: I think we should have a section where we consider new steps as part of the spec: promoting p:template and friends is one case, adding p:zip/unzip is another that occurs to me. 08:53:28 Some discussion of breaking the spec into two parts. 08:55:32 Some discussion of how versioning would would work. 08:59:10 Norm: Is there anyone opposed, in pricinple, to having two specs? 08:59:42 Jim: I'm not against it, but I wonder if it'll be better for users 08:59:46 Alex: What about writing a primer? 09:00:42 Norm: That would have to be in our deliverables if we put it on the REC track. 09:30:12 caribou has joined #xproc 11:29:11 Zakim has left #xproc 12:12:41 jf_2013 has joined #xproc 12:33:30 ht has joined #xproc 12:40:42 ht_home has joined #xproc 13:42:32 ht has joined #xproc 14:06:52 testing 14:07:22 Norm has joined #xproc 14:07:28 http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/docs/xproc-v2-req.html 14:11:28 Alex proposal for non xml docs http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2012Oct/0006.html 14:11:52 Vojtechs proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2012Sep/0020.html 15:29:31 Henry: We've discussed but never come to conclusion on the question of adding the XQuery/XSLT invariant to XProc 15:29:40 Some discussion follows