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15:58:26 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:58:26 <trackbot> Date: 26 September 2013
15:58:39 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
15:58:46 <Zakim> +Sam
15:58:48 <Zakim> +pladd
16:00:36 <Zakim> +??P0
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16:01:03 <Zakim> +MarkS
16:01:10 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2013JulSep/0027.html
16:01:12 <janina> zakim, who's here?
16:01:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, pladd, ??P0, MarkS
16:01:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see krisk_, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, pladd, rubys, jernoble, tinkster, SuzanneT, davidb, mkelly, gbabula, plh, darobin, SteveF, Lachy, Dashiva, [Beta], yoav, tH,
16:01:13 <Zakim> ... gsnedders, MarkS, ed, gavin_, hober, arronei, heath, krijnh, NeatBasis_
16:01:22 <janina> zakim, ??P0 is me
16:01:22 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:01:29 <Zakim> +Plh
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16:02:59 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:03:14 <krisk_> Zakim, [Microsoft] is krisk
16:03:14 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
16:04:11 <krisk_> chair: rubys
16:04:16 <krisk_> scribe: krisk
16:04:26 <krisk_> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, September 26
16:04:29 <krisk_> none
16:04:38 <krisk_> TOPIC: Items Closing This Week
16:04:50 <krisk_> Call for Microdata editor(s) closes on Sep 27
16:05:00 <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Aug/0059.html
16:05:29 <krisk_> We have no editor, so if we don't get an editor this will be published as a note
16:05:41 <krisk_> TOPIC: New Calls this week
16:05:53 <krisk_> CfC: to publish a “Encrypted Media Extensions" heartbeat Working Draft
16:06:01 <krisk_> Closes on tuesday
16:06:09 <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0088.html
16:06:18 <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0083.html
16:06:38 <krisk_> rubys: feedback has most been that this is not in scope, but it is in scope for the HTML WG
16:06:49 <krisk_> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
16:06:57 <krisk_> SUBTOPIC: Testing Task Force
16:07:17 <krisk_> We met as planned on Tuesday Sept 24th
16:07:28 <krisk_> Most of the discussion was on Canvas
16:08:04 <krisk_> See http://dev.w3.org/html5/misc/canvas-implementation.html
16:08:57 <plh> q+
16:09:14 <krisk_> Now it seems that 6. Building paths 'ellipse() doesn't have actual implementations and should be marked as 'at risk'
16:10:01 <krisk_>  4. Line Styles setLineDash, getLineDash, lineDashOffset
16:10:12 <krisk_> We have no tests - but Microsoft will submit some soon
16:10:24 <krisk_> Since IE11 added support for these Canvas features
16:10:57 <krisk_> Feedback is that if you actually go to http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/2dcontext/
16:11:06 <krisk_> The canvas tests are not working
16:11:41 <krisk_> Which I *think* Robin has a bug to fix?
16:12:04 <rubys> ack next
16:13:29 <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0013.html
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16:14:29 <krisk_> Plh: Can the TTF look to see if this is correct?
16:14:43 <krisk_> ..and if so update the report so that it is acurate
16:15:31 <krisk_> s/acurate/accurate/
16:15:37 <rubys> From Rik: "In answer to your question, I believe Jay generated that table by running the canvas test suite. Since that suite doesn't test this new feature, it wasn't flagged."
16:16:29 <krisk_> rubys: Rik has agree to update that section to be red and not green
16:17:55 <MarkS> http://www.rgraph.net/blog/2013/january/html5-canvas-ellipse.html
16:18:18 <krisk_> rubys can you follow up on ellipse() having implementations?
16:18:32 <plh> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures
16:19:13 <Zakim> -krisk
16:19:31 <krisk_> * I got disconnected hang on please :)
16:20:03 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:20:08 <plh> Sam: Rik is working with Rich about an update to the Canvas2D draft
16:20:34 <krisk_> TOPIC:  Accessibility Task Force
16:21:08 <krisk_> jania: Rich is away and we can't deliver on the date and move to Nov?
16:23:12 <krisk_> rubys: I'd like to see credible plans for implementations
16:23:36 <krisk_> rubys: If their is not credible plans then don't focus on these items
16:24:36 <krisk_> rubys: We have multiple implentations for Canvas
16:24:56 <krisk_> rubys: Though some items are at Risk (Path Objects) and don't have implementations
16:26:17 <krisk_> Rubys: Focus ring seems to be at risk since IE11 supports but chrome has a bug
16:26:35 <plh> q+
16:26:50 <krisk_> This since in '12.   Drawing paths to the canvas'
16:26:58 <MarkS> s/Focus ring/Custom focus ring
16:28:10 <rubys> the plan would then be to mark custom focus ring to be at risk at this time, seek plans in 4Q 2013 for implementations in 1Q2014.  If this function isn't implemented in 1Q2014, it will be removed at this time.
16:28:32 <rubys> s/this time/that time/
16:29:26 <rubys> janina and mark sadecki agrees
16:29:27 <krisk_> plh: Does these being removed raise any concerns from the  Accessibility Task Force?
16:29:51 <krisk_> mark: We would like to have some time to confirm
16:30:03 <krisk_> plh: Rik is going to update the page
16:30:08 <plh> s/these/dashses, text metrics, and ellipse/
16:30:08 <rubys> list of at risk features: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures
16:30:30 <plh> [[
16:30:32 <plh>      Path object in Canvas
16:30:32 <plh>     Hit regions
16:30:32 <plh>     Dashes
16:30:32 <plh>     Text metrics
16:30:32 <plh>     Ellipse
16:30:32 <krisk_> rubys: The plan to to make the document match the wiki
16:30:34 <plh> ]]
16:30:47 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/index.php?title=HTML5.0AtRiskFeatures&oldid=13988
16:32:23 <krisk_> jania: Alt text on image section 4.8.1.1 is being looked at and we have some comments
16:32:48 <krisk_> jania: The task force is getting close to being done and we don't expect any big changes
16:33:39 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/longdesc-tests/
16:33:58 <krisk_> jania: We have tests for longdesc and are looking for input from others
16:34:18 <krisk_> jania: This runs until next tuesday, so please provide input
16:35:24 <krisk_> TOPIC: Media Task Force
16:35:46 <krisk_> Any comments/status?
16:35:52 <krisk_> none
16:36:03 <krisk_> TOPIC: Other Business
16:36:10 <krisk_> publishing WAI_ARIA in HTML heartbeat
16:36:17 <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0073.html
16:36:34 <krisk_> Next is Returning canvas to last call
16:37:01 <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0082.html
16:37:08 <krisk_> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Sep/0084.html
16:37:18 <krisk_> The editors are working to complete this work
16:37:34 <krisk_> Bug 21341 - Remove note that longdesc is obsolete for img
16:37:47 <krisk_> This came up last week and has now been fixed
16:37:48 <krisk_>  https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21341
16:39:22 <krisk_> plh can darobin or someone (Mike?) fix the tests at http://w3c-test.org/web-platform-tests/master/2dcontext/?
16:40:17 <krisk_> plh: yes I can have someone fix these tests
16:40:20 <krisk_> krisk: thanks!
16:40:37 <krisk_> rubys: any other, other business?
16:41:46 <krisk_> plh: Next we will announce a new HTML charter
16:42:04 <krisk_> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting?
16:42:35 <Zakim> -pladd
16:42:39 <Zakim> - +1.971.998.aaaa
16:42:40 <Zakim> -MarkS
16:42:40 <Zakim> -Sam
16:42:44 <Zakim> -Plh
16:42:53 <Zakim> -janina
16:43:03 <krisk_> let's adjourn
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16:43:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-html-wg-minutes.html krisk_
16:44:24 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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16:44:26 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, pladd, MarkS, janina, Plh, +1.971.998.aaaa, krisk, [Microsoft]
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