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13:57:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_PFWG(HTML A11Y)9:00AM already started
13:57:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
13:57:05 <trackbot> Date: 23 September 2013
13:57:09 <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich
13:57:25 <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus
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14:00:52 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.617.715.aaaa, [IPcaller], Judy, Janina_Sajka, Janina, Janina.a
14:01:18 <janina> zakim, call janina
14:01:18 <Zakim> sorry, janina, I don't know what conference this is
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14:01:32 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
14:01:32 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(ARIA)10:00AM scheduled to start now
14:01:33 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
14:01:33 <trackbot> Date: 23 September 2013
14:01:37 <richardschwerdtfeger> calling back in
14:01:43 <janina> zakim, call janina
14:01:43 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
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14:01:46 <Zakim> +Janina
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14:04:34 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
14:04:44 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
14:04:44 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
14:04:51 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
14:04:51 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
14:05:09 <Zakim> +Cooper
14:05:49 <janina> SIP is definitely not working for Zakim today.
14:07:06 <jongund> RS: Do you know what changes there have been to the document
14:07:12 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/
14:07:18 <jongund> MC: I can't find the changes right now
14:07:41 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:07:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see Janina, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Jon_Gunderson, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Cooper
14:07:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see clown, jongund, Zakim, RRSAgent, richardschwerdtfeger, MichaelC, scott_gonzalez, janina, trackbot
14:07:47 <jongund> MC: The list of changes is not very informative
14:07:50 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/appendices
14:08:00 <jongund> MC: I will regenerate
14:08:02 <janina> scribe: jongund
14:08:21 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/appendices#changelog
14:08:28 <jongund> MC: there are just 2 normative changes since t =he last public working draft
14:08:49 <jongund> MC: I will fix that late today
14:09:12 <jongund> RS: Added none default false to aria checked state
14:09:31 <jongund> JS: That is interesting working, that is the default
14:09:54 <jongund> JS: What this now says, if you look at the checkbox role, implicit value .....
14:10:15 <jongund> RS: I am looking in the aria spec, the element does not support being checked
14:11:10 <jongund> JS: But that does not make sense for checkbox
14:11:38 <MichaelC> -> http://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FPF%2Faria%2Fcomplete&doc2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2FPF%2Faria-1.1%2Fcomplete Diff between ARIA 1.0 and ARIA 1.1
14:11:38 <jongund> RS: He changed the value, changed the defualt ...
14:11:54 <MichaelC> TOC issue fixed, changes logged at http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/appendices#changelog
14:11:56 <jongund> JS: This goes back to the April FTF discussion
14:12:34 <jongund> JS: If you leave it off, the checkbox checked will be false
14:14:31 <jongund> JS: Combobox has a required expanded state and that will be false
14:14:42 <Zakim> +[SAP]
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14:16:05 <jongund> JG: I don't like it, since validators don't know if the developer
14:16:19 <jongund> JG: I will never like
14:17:22 <jongund> JG: It is just one more thing to live with
14:18:02 <jongund> RS: Any objections?
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14:18:28 <jongund> RS: We will keep the resolution for missing aria-checked
14:18:40 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/roles#combobox
14:18:43 <jongund> RS: Are we missing something for combobox?
14:18:47 <jongund> JS: it is in there
14:18:54 <Zakim> +??P36
14:19:01 <jongund> JS: Implicit value for role....
14:19:01 <Zakim> -Cooper
14:19:11 <jongund> RS: The implicit value for....
14:19:26 <jongund> JS: Combobox role, very lat role, implicit value for role
14:19:51 <jongund> JS: Added default for aria-expanded to be false
14:19:58 <jongund> RS: I am OK with that
14:20:17 <jongund> RS: Do you expect UAIG to expose..
14:20:32 <jongund> JS: They all ready do, and we have test cases
14:20:44 <jongund> RS: Do we put a collapse state out there?
14:21:04 <jongund> JS: It will expose as expanadable and collapsed
14:21:08 <jongund> RS: James?
14:21:14 <jongund> MC: I was rejoining
14:21:26 <jongund> RS: Who has the pen to not the change?
14:21:37 <jongund> MC: I have the pen, what do i need to change
14:21:48 <jongund> MC: I don't see anything in the diff version
14:22:03 <jongund> JS: Does that mean it is in ARIA 1.0?
14:22:07 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#combobox
14:22:17 <jongund> JS: It is not in the published draft, maybe in the editors
14:23:06 <jongund> MC: He made ARIA checked ....
14:23:16 <jongund> MC: Let me go back to my diffs
14:23:21 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#combobox
14:23:29 <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/roles#combobox
14:23:31 <jongund> JS: There is 1.0 and 1.1
14:23:53 <jongund> MC: That did not get documented, he did on 22 spetember
14:24:04 <jongund> JS: I will get the source up
14:25:05 <jongund> RS: We will add the following text....
14:25:21 <Zakim> +James_Craig
14:25:22 <jongund> RS: Should that have a number next to it
14:25:33 <jongund> MC: I added this
14:25:40 <richardschwerdtfeger> Add the following text to section 10.3:
14:26:10 <jongund> JC: What are the differences between 1.0 and 1.1, the biggest difference is aria-describedat
14:26:49 <jongund> JC: We have not done a rework of 1.0, so it should not be a difference 1.0 and 1.1
14:27:19 <jongund> MC: The differences are in the editors source, but not in the public draft
14:27:34 <jongund> MC: I will update the make file after testing , later this week
14:27:36 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/states_and_properties#aria-describedat
14:27:46 <jongund> RS: We went though the default values
14:28:07 <jongund> RS: working on aria-describedat now
14:29:23 <jongund> RS: SHould we make that a note?
14:29:42 <jongund> JC: A note or something else, it is something we should definitely add
14:31:01 <jongund> MC: Maybe we should be referencing .....
14:31:14 <jongund> JS: We would like to says yes to MC thought
14:31:22 <jongund> RS: Talk to URI people
14:32:01 <jongund> MC: the do to ..., looking for URI specification..
14:33:37 <richardschwerdtfeger> In order to provide input- and device-independent access to the associated descriptive content, authors SHOULD use the tabindex attribute to ensure the object is included in the default tab order.
14:33:38 <jongund> RS: input dash, what is input dash
14:33:46 <jongund> RS: Just trying to clarify
14:34:24 <jongund> JC: that is how you share ... input and device independent ..., grammatical short hand
14:35:24 <jongund> RS: That will have to change in the future
14:35:31 <jongund> JC: Why do we have to change that
14:35:45 <jongund> RS: They will be doing it in SVG to
14:35:59 <jongund> JC: That will not affect us
14:36:16 <jongund> RS: In a later version of SVG you may want to change it
14:37:13 <jongund> JC: if you take out XLINK it doesn't work
14:37:35 <jongund> JC: If SVG2 will still need to be compatible with current versions
14:37:50 <jongund> JC: We can say this is an SVG 1 document
14:37:55 <jongund> RS: that's fine
14:38:00 <jongund> RS: I am ok with this
14:38:37 <jongund> MC: I have been working on a refinition of URI that is less HTML centric
14:38:48 <MichaelC> proposed for URI: A Uniform Resource Identifier as defined by <a href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt">RFC 3986</a> [RFC3986]. It may reference a separate document, or a content fragment identifier in a separate document, or a content fragment identifier within the same document.
14:38:49 <jongund> MC: I think we should put in value type
14:39:20 <jongund> MC: Propse this for the URI, I am not sure where to put processing instructions, but in general should be part of the host language
14:39:27 <jongund> JC: Is that a to do?
14:39:33 <jongund> MC: Took that out
14:39:47 <richardschwerdtfeger> Example: Using aria-describedat to provide a detailed description for raster images displayed in SVG
14:39:54 <jongund> RSL You have an SVG underline, did you want to link to the SVG document
14:40:03 <jongund> RS: Do we have a glossary
14:40:07 <richardschwerdtfeger> [SVG]
14:40:29 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/references
14:40:33 <jongund> JJC: that is a good point
14:40:51 <jongund> RS: We have an SVG in there, reference that and you will be good
14:41:09 <jongund> RS: Anything else for the good of the order?
14:41:33 <jongund> MC: Actually I need to get a working group consensus
14:41:47 <jongund> JC: I have a question
14:42:05 <jongund> JC: Can we add the text role or disclosure role....
14:42:18 <jongund> MC: I don't think we can by this thursday
14:42:27 <jongund> JC: Ok this thursday
14:42:44 <jongund> MC: We can do a second public working draft any time
14:42:54 <jongund> JC: Will you make the changes?
14:42:58 <jongund> MC: Yes
14:43:07 <jongund> JC: I will give you the actions
14:44:04 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/appendices#ack_others
14:44:20 <jongund> MC: I am planning to do a pass
14:44:42 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/appendices#acknowledgements
14:44:44 <jcraig> action: cooper to finish describedat: add [svg] ref, change todo to note or normative text re: "authors and book publishers should use native markup..."
14:44:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1265 - Finish describedat: add [svg] ref, change todo to note or normative text re: "authors and book publishers should use native markup..." [on Michael Cooper - due 2013-09-30].
14:45:01 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-1.1/appendices#ack_others
14:45:05 <jongund> RS: Can we make it a list
14:45:52 <jongund> MC: I understand, there are no standard, the primary list and a also contributed list
14:46:04 <jongund> JS: Why is it numbered, rather than numbered
14:46:15 <jongund> JS: It looks like it is alphabetical
14:46:25 <jongund> RS: Anyone we need to add to this list?
14:47:37 <jongund> JC: Alex Chin and Alex Zercoff ...
14:47:53 <jongund> RS: Let's see if we missed anyone, what about George
14:47:58 <jcraig> s/Zercoff/Surkov/
14:48:08 <jongund> MC: He is not a member, but he is in the second list
14:48:40 <richardschwerdtfeger> George Kerscher
14:48:41 <jcraig> Action: Cooper to move Alex Surkov and Scott Gonzalez from Other list to Participants list
14:48:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1266 - Move alex surkov and scott gonzalez from other list to participants list [on Michael Cooper - due 2013-09-30].
14:48:50 <clown> Scott González (JQuery Foundation),
14:48:56 <jongund> MC: What is his affiliation?
14:49:01 <jongund> MC: Daisy
14:49:09 <jongund> JS: IDPF
14:49:10 <jcraig> action-1266?
14:49:10 <trackbot> action-1266 -- Michael Cooper to Move alex surkov and scott gonzalez from other list to participants list -- due 2013-09-30 -- OPEN
14:49:10 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1266
14:49:26 <jongund> RS: Is steve faulkner a member of PF
14:49:38 <jongund> RS: Just want to make sure we give people credit
14:49:51 <jongund> MC: Steve is in the list
14:50:06 <jongund> RS: Is he still an invited expert?
14:50:11 <jongund> MC: yes
14:50:24 <jongund> RS: Did John Foliot ever join?
14:50:34 <jongund> MC: no, but not for lack of effort
14:50:46 <jongund> MC: I am convered this to a unordered list
14:52:03 <jongund> RS: Anything we need to do with the status of this document
14:52:28 <jongund> MC: I cannot post a version with a status, but I can tell you
14:52:56 <MichaelC> Proposed Status:
14:52:57 <MichaelC> This is a First Public Working Draft of WAI-ARIA 1.1 by the Protocols & Formats Working Group of the Web Accessibility Initiative. The primary feature that is new since WAI-ARIA 1.0 is the aria-describedat property, which aims to meet extended description use cases that are not met by aria-describedby. The specific engineering of this feature may change and is being published now to collect public feedback both on this proposal and suggestions for other proposals
14:52:57 <MichaelC> . Future drafts of ARIA 1.1 will also provide a small number of features to complete the HTML + ARIA accessibility model. It is expected this will complement HTML 5.1. ARIA 1.1 will have a very limited scope. Requirements will be published in the near future. This version of ARIA 1.1 also includes a small set of editorial changes that accumulated in ARIA 1.0 after the publication of the Candidate Recommendation. A history of changes to WAI-ARIA is available.
14:52:59 <MichaelC> For this publicaiton, the Protocols and Formats Working Group primarily seeks feedback on the aria-describedat feature, but feedback on any aspect of the specification is accepted. To comment, send email to public-pfwg-comments@w3.org (comment archive). Comments are requested by 1 November 2013. In-progress updates to the document may be viewed in the publicly visible editors' draft.
14:53:06 <jongund> MC: There some boiler plate
14:53:26 <jongund> MC: the thrid chunk is the start of a new paragraph
14:57:57 <clown> +1 to the proposed status as stated by MichaelC.
14:58:18 <jongund> JG: can you change "UIUC" to "University of Illinois"
14:58:32 <jongund> JC: It is a note about what we have to do
14:58:47 <jongund> MC: it is more than I can do on the call
14:58:58 <jongund> JC: I added it to the tracker
14:59:18 <jongund> RS: Any one object ot promte to a public working draft
14:59:34 <jongund> RESOLUTION: request publication of ARIA 1.1 as a First Public Working Draft
14:59:58 <Zakim> +??P39
15:00:09 <Zakim> -??P39
15:00:12 <jongund> RS: On to the next set of stuff, JC thank you for getting this done
15:00:17 <jongund> JC: Your welecome
15:00:48 <jcraig> s/Your welecome/You're welcome. Thank you./
15:00:59 <jongund> RS: Next thing is the UAIG issues?
15:01:06 <jongund> RS: Anything JS?
15:01:11 <clown> action-1198?
15:01:11 <trackbot> action-1198 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Update non-default values for required attrs per role. e.g. checkbox and other checkable role default to aria-checked="false" rather than the attr default: undefined. -- due 2013-05-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
15:01:11 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1198
15:01:12 <jongund> JS: There a couple of things
15:01:21 <jongund> JS: Action 1198
15:01:45 <jongund> JS: Work that JC did to add aria-expanded default value
15:01:51 <jongund> JC: that should be done
15:02:17 <jongund> JS: I understand now that the draft has not been published
15:02:27 <jongund> JS: I am closing it then
15:02:31 <clown> action-1219?
15:02:31 <trackbot> action-1219 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to UAIG: passive RFC requirement: two instances of "The state change events MAY be trimmed out for performance" Who is this requirement for? Authors? UA? AT? Be specific. What does "trimmed out" mean? Be specific. -- due 2013-05-14 -- OPEN
15:02:32 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1219
15:02:41 <jongund> JS: this is one last week,and discussed with Alex
15:02:58 <jongund> JS: RS you raised this issue, do we need to look at UAIG?
15:03:09 <jongund> RS: Did you put some text in?
15:03:21 <jongund> JS: No, Alex said there was nothing to change
15:03:33 <jongund> JC: Tis may is for user agents or authors
15:03:46 <jongund> JS: Everything in UAIG is for the user agent
15:04:08 <jongund> JS: I could put in the user agent ....
15:04:36 <jongund> JS: Could I just put in a para about all requirements are for user agent, might already be there
15:04:51 <jongund> JS: You select shift click...
15:05:01 <jongund> RS: How does user agent detect...
15:05:36 <jongund> JS: I don't know how i is done, but FF puts out one event if more than 5 individual events
15:05:43 <jongund> RS: is there a normative wat ....
15:05:58 <jongund> RS: If a select 3 will alex fire?
15:06:06 <MichaelC> q+ to remember that we need to update the ARIA 1.1 abstract
15:06:17 <jongund> RS: the state change event needs to be trimmed out ...
15:06:34 <jongund> JS: Let me get the section up, 5.8.3
15:06:59 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
15:06:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/23-pf-minutes.html MichaelC
15:07:00 <jongund> RS: Sorry to be a pain, but I am just saying, that the user agent may fire this ...
15:07:15 <jongund> RS: State change events maybe trimmed out for performance
15:07:25 <jongund> JS: I took all of these .....
15:07:43 <jongund> RS: I don't view these as state change....
15:08:02 <jongund> JS: Write a email to Alex ....
15:08:16 <jongund> RS: I understand what he is doing, I am not sure what IE does
15:08:36 <richardschwerdtfeger> The user agent MAY fire a EVENT_OBJECT_SELECTIONWITHIN event. If this happens the state change events MAY be trimmed out for performance.
15:09:11 <jongund> JS: So you just want to add an if
15:09:26 <jongund> RS: What is many?  It is not consistent
15:09:58 <jongund> JS: That's why it is a may, if we want a number we can get agreement and make it a must
15:10:06 <jongund> JS: What is event object selection?
15:10:19 <jongund> RS: Selection within is not a stat on the container
15:10:27 <richardschwerdtfeger> q?
15:10:28 <jongund> JS: Remove ...
15:10:47 <jongund> JC: Maybe this is the state flux, rather than ...
15:10:55 <jongund> JC: It is a binary state
15:11:38 <jongund> RS: You can have a selected state on an container, how many changes does it take to fire the event, to me is semantics
15:11:48 <jongund> JS: What is being trimmed out ......
15:12:05 <jongund> JS: What is event object ... os being trimmed out too
15:12:39 <jongund> RS: it is applied to individual events ....
15:12:53 <Zakim> -James_Craig
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15:13:02 <richardschwerdtfeger>     User agents MUST fire the following events when aria-selected changes on a descendant, as follows:
15:13:13 <jongund> JS: Just ays the UAIG text ....
15:13:36 <jongund> RS: There a lot of events in here they do not need to be state changes
15:13:54 <jongund> JS: they say state change event
15:14:08 <jongund> RS: Something in here and they know when the trigger it
15:14:19 <clown> The other events noted above MAY be trimmed out for performance.
15:15:19 <jongund> JS: You won't be firing ..... in this column
15:15:37 <jongund> RS: Other events in this column will be trimmed for performance
15:15:50 <jongund> JS: That is what I just put in the chat room
15:15:59 <jongund> JS: that is the only one that gets fire
15:16:05 <clown> EVENT_OBJECT_SELECTIONWITHIN is all that is necessary. The other events noted above MAY be trimmed out for performance.
15:16:39 <jongund> RS: The left column says that .....
15:16:47 <jongund> RS: That makes sense to me
15:17:05 <clown> User agent MAY fire a EVENT_OBJECT_SELECTIONWITHIN.  The other events noted above MAY be trimmed out for performance.
15:17:59 <richardschwerdtfeger> User agent MAY fire a EVENT_OBJECT_SELECTIONWITHIN.  If this event is fired the other events noted above MAY be trimmed out for performance.
15:18:39 <jongund> RS: The Mac column is really easy
15:18:56 <jongund> RS: It looks like the only event is object selection change
15:19:18 <jongund> JS: In the other case you fire many more of them, under certain conditions
15:19:34 <jongund> RS: on the container?
15:19:42 <jongund> JS: It does not say that now
15:20:40 <richardschwerdtfeger> The user agent may fire a single object::selection_changed on the container.  In this case, the user agent MAY trim out object::selection_changed generated by owned children for performance reasons.
15:21:21 <jongund> RS: Owned children the correct terminology, owned descendants
15:21:36 <jongund> JS: It fires on the container
15:21:45 <jongund> RS: Always on the container?
15:21:53 <jongund> JS: That's what it looks like
15:22:10 <richardschwerdtfeger> The user agent may fire a single object::selection_changed on the container vs. multiple.
15:22:53 <jongund> RS: If you want to say for performance reasons
15:22:58 <jongund> JS: That is the reason
15:23:27 <jongund> JS: The last one is about ....
15:23:43 <jongund> RS: I am not sure it the UIA stuff has been tested
15:23:50 <jongund> JS: It is not in IE
15:24:06 <jongund> JS: The UIA columns are at risk and maybe removed
15:24:13 <jongund> JS: I will pass this by Alex
15:24:33 <jongund> JS: There are other outstanding issues, but waiting for responses
15:24:40 <jongund> RS: one thing left
15:25:12 <jongund> JS: i will try to write some test cases this week
15:25:35 <jongund> RS: You get a focus and select state change
15:26:01 <jongund> JS: I gave the new proposed test file and alex said that is the right test
15:26:14 <jongund> JS: Let me find the e-mail
15:26:40 <jongund> JS: I replied to all, was it on the public PF list?
15:26:58 <jongund> JS: What is the public-pfw
15:27:17 <clown> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2013Sep/0048.html
15:27:19 <jongund> JS: it was on fiiday, found it
15:27:47 <jongund> RS: Did you change it?
15:28:09 <jongund> JS: Alex was the only one who replied
15:28:24 <jongund> JS: I said the test file need to change
15:28:33 <jongund> RS: Not author driven
15:28:53 <jongund> JS: Then your not testing an ARIA listbox, you are only testing the select
15:29:16 <jongund> RS: if one of the items changes the focus then event....
15:29:37 <jongund> JS: Author must configure ...
15:29:49 <jongund> JS: That is one of the changes I made
15:29:49 <clown> Using 85 as the example, assuming it is a test of a multiselectable  container (not sure):
15:30:06 <richardschwerdtfeger> :-)
15:30:30 <jongund> RS: What is the testable statement?
15:30:47 <jongund> MC: I did not write the testable statement, I just copied
15:30:56 <jongund> MC: I am not sure who worte the test case
15:31:32 <jongund> MC: This was a single selection use case
15:31:40 <jongund> MC: My source
15:31:48 <jongund> RS: I have another engagement...
15:32:14 <MichaelC> these came from http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/ARIA/Tests/Testable_Statements#mapping_events_selection
15:32:17 <jongund> MC: They were single selection list
15:32:17 <clown> div element with role="listbox" and it is a single selection list, and child div elements with role="option" and tabindex="0", and focus is moved among the options via TAB and SHIFT-TAB keystrokes.
15:32:27 <jongund> RS: I can put that in here
15:32:37 <jongund> JS: This is the correct testable statement
15:32:47 <jongund> RS: We just need to test one
15:32:51 <jongund> JS: Sure i guess
15:33:28 <MichaelC> q-
15:33:31 <jongund> MC: I think that you need at least 2 focusable, to be able to move among them
15:33:42 <jongund> rrsagent, dart minutes
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15:34:25 <jongund> JS: If you have selection following focus, then these events apply
15:34:43 <jongund> RS: The user agent actually exposes ...., that is what FF does
15:34:54 <jongund> JS: Why was it failing?
15:35:06 <jongund> RS: I got to run
15:35:17 <jongund> RS: Try to hook up this week
15:35:48 <jongund> JS: i thought this was resolved Friday, but it is not
15:36:00 <jongund> RS: MC can you chair the next 2 weeks?
15:36:03 <jongund> MC: Yes
15:36:14 <jongund> RS: We got our big item done to day
15:36:30 <richardschwerdtfeger> RRSAGent, make log public
15:36:33 <Zakim> -[SAP]
15:36:34 <Zakim> -Jon_Gunderson
15:36:36 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:36:48 <Zakim> -Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:37:01 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:37:02 <Zakim> -Janina
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15:37:04 <Zakim> Attendees were Janina, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Jon_Gunderson, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Cooper, [SAP], Michael_Cooper, James_Craig
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