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<trackbot> Date: 11 September 2013
<gavinc> [08:00] <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has not yet started, Guus
<scribe> scribe: pchampin
sandro: discussed with the chairs
this morning to set up a timeline of the things we need to
do
... we have to provide some work if we don't find some
documents to be left out
... but it seems manageable
... We need test suites for everything;
... most things have it, except for semantics - could probably
adapt the one from 2004
<gavinc> N-Triples, N-Quads, and TriG publish perfectly fine with phantom JS. For Turtle I guess I need to figure out what all remaining differences between the published version and the dvcs version are.
sandro: We have to handle all the
comments.
... We need implementations, with enough people on board.
Guus: we have to have all the
documents on REC track in PR before the 1st of december,
... as well as implementation reports for the tests.
<AZ> Note on Dataset semantics soon ready for a first round of review
Sandro: in order to have all the
inter-document links to work, we must all use the same version
of ReSpec.
... The documents should be reviewed during December and
published in January;
... by then, the WG will have nothing to do -- if everything
goes smoothly.
<gavinc> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/file/default/trig/tests
Sandro: there are
implementations, so we may be able to skip CR,
... provided that we mention it in the LC.
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 4 Sep telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-09-04
RESOLVED to accept the minutes of the 4 Sep telecon
Guus: Arnaud completed his action re. the RDF-JSON note
AndyS: the Trig document is ready today
<gavinc> ACTION-284 is done
Ivan: the i18n WG has taken our comments into account
Guus: these documents have been published
http://www.w3.org/News/2013#entry-9932
Gavin: do we have a timeline for LC, in order to decide about the features at risk?
<AndyS> TriG LC -- 3 week LC i.e. minimum
Guus: we need to decide early november
Guus: we can not look at the
comments
...
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Sep/0009.html
is merely editorial (ReSpec issues)
... ISSUE-141
Ivan: ISSUE-141 (Fragment
identifiers) came up in our comments with ITS
... I don't believe it was meant as a required change in our
documents
<AndyS> ISSUE-141?
<trackbot> ISSUE-141 -- Fragment Identifiers (Sebastian Hellmann) -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/141
Ivan: Somebody should ask
Sebastian what he really meant.
... Sebastian made a point during a discussion that he didn't
mention in his mail:
... something in the FragID section of 2004 disappeared in the
new spec
... (scribe didn't precisely caught up what was that
something...)
... but I'm not sure he wants it to change.
<AndyS> fg
<gavinc> I don't see anything missing from the new Fragment Identifiers section, except that the old one was normative and the new one isn't?
Guus: can you answer his question?
<gavinc> It's a non-normative section in RDF 1.1
<gavinc> do we care?
<pfps> ship it.
ACTION Ivan to respond to ISSUE-141
<trackbot> 'Ivan' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ivan, imikhail).
Guus:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Sep/0005.html
... we've discussed this at length,
... I feel there is not much we can do here
ACTION pfps to draft a response to Jeremy
<trackbot> Created ACTION-290 - Draft a response to jeremy [on Peter Patel-Schneider - due 2013-09-18].
pfps: what new stuff is required (compared to the previous test suite)?
<AZ> I can help
pfps: but I can start.
<AZ> I can look at the old test suite
Guus: so Peter can look at the new document, and Antoine look at the old test suite.
ACTION pfps to start the new test suite document for semantics
<trackbot> Created ACTION-291 - Start the new test suite document for semantics [on Peter Patel-Schneider - due 2013-09-18].
ACTION AZ to review the previous semantics test-suite
<trackbot> Created ACTION-292 - Review the previous semantics test-suite [on Antoine Zimmermann - due 2013-09-18].
Guus: I think there were no comments on semantics.
pfps: Jeremy's comment is on semantics.
<gavinc> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Candidate_Recommendation_Comments
Guus: we can do a similar page for comments on other documents
Guus: Sandro pointed out that there are still issues about comments
<gavinc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Apr/0057.html
Guus: some comments being not properly tracked.
Gavin: but I don't have an answer
to this comment.
... Also, it seems that the published version is not one
recorded in the VCS.
<gavinc> ACTION Gavin update turtle ED to match published Turtle CR document
<trackbot> Created ACTION-293 - Update turtle ed to match published turtle cr document [on Gavin Carothers - due 2013-09-18].
Guus: how are we with the implementation report?
Gavin: doing great: we have 7 implementations.
Guus: end of the agenda; next
week we'll decide on LC for Trig.
... Adjourned
<Guus> pa, do you want help with the editing?
<Guus> trackbot, end meeting
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