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11:38:04 <fsasaki> meeting: MLW-LT WG
11:38:06 <fsasaki> chair: felix
11:38:25 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Sep/0035.html
11:38:55 <fsasaki> regrets: tadej, yves, jörg
11:42:06 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
11:42:10 <fsasaki> present+ felix
11:42:14 <fsasaki> regrets+ arle
11:42:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/11-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
11:42:26 <fsasaki> topic: roll call
11:42:30 <fsasaki> checking attendance ...
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12:05:35 <fsasaki> topic: PR publication mail draft
12:05:42 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
12:05:44 <fsasaki> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-multilingualweb-lt/2013Sep/0000.html
12:06:04 <fsasaki> (felix goint thought mail)
12:06:50 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/disposition-of-comments-3rd-last-call.html
12:07:39 <fsasaki> dave: we don't include mgmt comments in mail?
12:07:49 <fsasaki> .. NIF question arose because we went back to RDF group
12:08:38 <fsasaki> "after previous draft NIF become non-normative by directors's request"
12:10:19 <dF> sounds good
12:11:18 <fsasaki> felix: NIF dependcny is not criticial, since NIF is a non-normative reference
12:12:11 <fsasaki> https://github.com/w3c/its-2.0-testsuite
12:12:54 <fsasaki> felix: any questions on PR mail draft?
12:13:13 <fsasaki> topic: vote for PR transition
12:13:36 <fsasaki> dF: no organizations are stating relevant patents for ITS2
12:14:36 <fsasaki> felix: related to localization quality issue changes - these are not critical for any implementer
12:15:01 <dF> +1
12:15:06 <philr> +1
12:15:07 <Ankit> +1
12:15:08 <pnietoca> +1
12:15:11 <Jirka> +1
12:15:13 <leroy> +1
12:15:13 <Yves_> +1 LQI changes do not change our implementation
12:15:14 <dF> for the editorial LQI changes
12:15:26 <fsasaki> topic: vote for PR transition
12:15:28 <daveL> +1 that changes to LQI do not influence TCD implementation of this data category
12:15:40 <fsasaki> felix: people in favor of PR publication please type +1
12:15:46 <fsasaki> +1
12:15:49 <pnietoca> +1
12:15:49 <philr> +1
12:15:50 <dF> +1
12:15:51 <daveL> +1 for PR publication
12:15:58 <leroy> +1
12:15:59 <Ankit> +1 for PR pub
12:16:01 <Jirka> +1 for PR pub
12:16:10 <chriLi> +1 for PR publication
12:16:16 <fsasaki> felix: anybody against PR publication?
12:16:21 <Yves_> +1 for PR pub
12:16:33 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: WG voted for publication as PR draft
12:16:45 <fsasaki> topic: next steps
12:17:05 <fsasaki> felix: hope for transition call on friday, publication next week
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12:17:28 <philr> who attends transition call?
12:17:33 <fsasaki> felix: REC could come late octoboer
12:17:51 <philr> OK, thanks
12:17:59 <fsasaki> felix: co-chairs and staff contact plus w3c mgmt
12:18:09 <fsasaki> topic: aob
12:19:26 <fsasaki> david: details about WG meeting next week?
12:19:33 <fsasaki> felix: will provide them later this week
12:19:54 <omstefanov> present+ omstefanov
12:21:18 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Deliverables
12:21:35 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Deliverables#Deliverables_howto
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12:22:27 <fsasaki> christian: felix at MT summit last week - any info about that?
12:22:40 <daveL> scribe; dlewis6
12:22:52 <fsasaki> scribe: dlewis6
12:23:04 <daveL> felix: at MT summit presented material on postedit with content from Pedro
12:23:09 <daveL> .. was well received
12:23:19 <daveL> .. highlighting issues around translate flags
12:23:49 <daveL> .. Specific feedback, how do you measure value of ITS, e.g. when deciding whether to adopt
12:24:24 <daveL> ... suggested measuring process/roundtrip time, e.g. like input previously from cocomore
12:24:47 <daveL> ... such number would be useful in convincing people to adopt ITS
12:25:11 <daveL> ... there were similar question about cost of MT adoption, weighed against cost of postediting
12:25:52 <Yves_> bye
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12:26:00 <omstefanov> Felix, where is wednesday meeting?
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12:26:16 <pedro> Sorry I cannot connet Gotomeeting today and I have to follow the meeting in IRC.
12:26:23 <omstefanov> I'll be in Berlin from Tuesday evening.
12:26:31 <Milan> present+ Milan
12:26:32 <fsasaki> omstefanov, probably at DFKI offices, but to be confirmed
12:26:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/11-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
12:26:51 <omstefanov> will you send address to us all ? (incl me)
12:27:02 <fsasaki> thanks a lot for joining, Milan - saw your mail earlier, will reply to that later today
12:27:07 <fsasaki> omstefanov, yes, I will
12:27:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/11-mlw-lt-minutes.html fsasaki
12:27:21 <omstefanov> thanks. see you (all) next week in Berlin
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12:31:11 <Milan> ok, I'm very sorry for that..
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13:37:07 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
13:37:07 <RRSAgent> I see no action items