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15:00:09 <michel> zakim, this is hcls
15:00:09 <Zakim> ok, michel; that matches SW_HCLS()11:00AM
15:00:15 <michel> michel has changed the topic to: #hcls  W3C HCLS – General Meeting
15:00:20 <michel> Meeting: W3C HCLS – General Meeting
15:00:26 <michel> Chair: michel
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15:01:57 <michel> zakim, ??P8 is alasdair
15:01:57 <Zakim> +alasdair; got it
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15:02:19 <michel> zakim, who is here?
15:02:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.510.705.aaaa, +1.412.624.aabb, +33.1.73.71.aacc, michel, [GVoice], Kerstin_Forsberg, alasdair
15:02:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see agray, achille_zappa, RRSAgent, Zakim, odb, egombocz, michel, mmd76, boycer, TallTed, egonw_, ericP
15:03:03 <michel> zakim, +1.510.705.aaaa is egombocz
15:03:03 <Zakim> +egombocz; got it
15:03:21 <michel> zakim, +aabb is boycer
15:03:21 <Zakim> + +31.62.427.aadd
15:03:22 <Zakim> sorry, michel, I do not recognize a party named '+aabb'
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15:03:28 <michel> zakim, aabb is boycer
15:03:28 <Zakim> +boycer; got it
15:04:14 <Zakim> +EricP
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15:05:02 <Zakim> +matthias_samwald; got it
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15:06:22 <matthias_samwald> is someone scribing?
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15:08:04 <Joanne_Luciano> Michel:  The new challenge is how to disseminate and educate the sem web approach
15:09:55 <Joanne_Luciano> MIchel - opening forum to floor to hear thoughts about what to do and where to go...
15:10:06 <Joanne_Luciano> Eric: keen on ourteach plan
15:11:22 <egonw_> dialing via SIP does not work for me...
15:11:56 <Zakim> +??P1
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15:12:15 <egonw_> ok, making progress?
15:12:34 <Zakim> +??P1
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15:13:00 <michel> ericp: approach for health care solutions has been piecemeal. do some work and put up on the wiki. be better to more easily navigate towards the relevant solution
15:13:57 <Joanne_Luciano> ErickP - suggesting outreach and need for decision tree to guide new users to what they need
15:14:09 <michel> egombocz: use cases should be more obvious to illustrate
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15:15:28 <egonw_> no stable SIP with Ekiga :(
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15:16:10 <Joanne_Luciano> Eric P: need to model business cases (justification) as well as the technical
15:16:48 <Zakim> -alasdair
15:16:57 <Joanne_Luciano> EricP:  Now discussing what website might look like
15:17:36 <Zakim> +??P8
15:17:55 <agray> I dropped out for a while there. Just rejoined
15:18:40 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2013/HCLS-tutorials/RIM/#(6)
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15:19:58 <egonw__> giving up :(
15:20:53 <AtifKhan> That's JavaScript
15:21:03 <michel> scott: in the past we showed hclskb, lodd, eligibility demo; what do we want to show now?
15:21:15 <michel> ... circle of experts
15:21:49 <michel> ericp: flashy correspondence between syntax and graphical representation
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15:23:14 <matthias_samwald> zakim, [IPcaller] is matthias_samwald
15:23:14 <Zakim> +matthias_samwald; got it
15:24:06 <michel> ericp: lost eligibility criteria demo - was hosted at deri - need persistance
15:24:32 <michel> scott: might be more reliable on a w3c server
15:25:03 <Zakim> +AndyS
15:25:07 <AtifKhan> Virtualization
15:25:10 <michel> ericp: hosting on w3c server can be done. another option is being able to independently deploy it
15:25:27 <matthias_samwald> +1 on Virtualization
15:25:33 <agray> At the very least a backup
15:27:14 <michel> ericp: in the case of demos - we can hold the idea that if it's good enough, they'll maintain it
15:27:26 <matthias_samwald> (will be off the computer for 30 seconds...)
15:28:51 <matthias_samwald> (back)
15:29:37 <michel> scott: problem with lodd was that these were not really reproducible
15:29:48 <Zakim> +[GVoice.a]
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15:30:04 <michel> michel: Bio2RDF provides a common infrastructure solution for providing linked data for the life sciences
15:30:53 <Zakim> +Bob_Powers
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15:33:03 <bobP> echo echo
15:33:15 <mscottm> Zakim, who is making noise?
15:33:26 <Zakim> mscottm, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: michel (29%), Joanne_Luciano (16%)
15:33:30 <Zakim> +??P8
15:33:53 <agray> Was dropped again. Back again.
15:34:50 <agray> zakim, P8 is agray
15:34:50 <Zakim> sorry, agray, I do not recognize a party named 'P8'
15:35:01 <agray> zakim, ??P8 is agray
15:35:01 <Zakim> +agray; got it
15:35:18 <michel> michel: shall HCLS get behind a project like Bio2RDF in order for us to build on and promote?
15:35:38 <boycer> +1
15:36:12 <agray> I would suggest that HCLS gets behind a variety of projects: Bio2RDF, Identifiers.org, Open PHACTS.
15:36:13 <egonw> agreed, I found it hard to ensure uptime for ChEMBL-RDF, given the load
15:36:23 <michel> matthias_samwald: there's a problem with the distributed semantic web; consolidation projects like Bio2RDF are more successful in the long term;
15:36:42 <agray> Also the EBI's RDF effort
15:37:33 <Joanne_Luciano> What are some of the deeper challenges?
15:38:21 <Joanne_Luciano> I'd like us to get a number of ideas / options before "deciding"
15:39:00 <egonw> Joanne_Luciano: I guess, helping adoption by providing support in keeping uptime
15:39:18 <michel> michel: tasks force updates
15:39:37 <egonw> Joanne_Luciano: e.g. promote organization-wide SPARQL end point adoption... like by university IT departments
15:39:44 <egonw> Joanne_Luciano: e.g. promote organization-wide SPARQL end point adoption... like by university IT departments (or libraries :)
15:40:54 <michel> ericp: CDISC2RDF project influencing decision makers (Kerstin)
15:41:32 <michel> ... josh mandel working on RDF version of FHIR
15:42:57 <michel> ... mapping of clinical terminology ; SALUS grabs and converts from different sources;
15:43:41 <Zakim> -AndyS
15:44:18 <Zakim> -EricP
15:44:23 <bobP> ericP will talk about this tonight at #cswmup
15:44:43 <Zakim> +??P29
15:44:50 <boycer> http://www.slideshare.net/boycer/brief-update-tow3-chclswrtpddis09102013
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15:46:01 <egonw> zakim, ??IPcaller is egonw
15:46:01 <Zakim> sorry, egonw, I do not recognize a party named '??IPcaller'
15:46:06 <egonw> zakim, IPcaller is egonw
15:46:07 <Zakim> +egonw; got it
15:46:30 <michel> boycer: 40,000 products; FDA table of biomakers; links to drugbank (rxnorm to drugbank); developing pipeline to extract drug-drug interactions
15:47:00 <michel> boycer: working with Paolo for DOMEO-based annotation of SPL
15:47:25 <michel> ... long term project
15:48:48 <Zakim> -agray
15:48:56 <egombocz> sorry, need to join another meeting - thank you all!
15:49:00 <Zakim> -egombocz
15:49:28 <Zakim> +??P8
15:49:41 <agray> zakim, ??P8 is agray
15:49:41 <Zakim> +agray; got it
15:49:53 <michel> boycer: looking to build a community around annotation
15:50:01 <matthias_samwald> Slides for my presentation: http://de.slideshare.net/matthiassamwald/hcls-call-september-2013-clinical-pharmacogenomics?utm_source=ss&utm_medium=upload&utm_campaign=quick-view
15:51:29 <michel> matthias_samwald: significant progress. have developed OWL2 ontology for patient decision support.  ontology + patient data = matching dosing recommendations
15:51:39 <michel> ... finishing paper to describe the system and ontology
15:52:12 <michel> ... pgx statements in drug labels
15:52:55 <michel> ... many opportunities to present work at conferences and workshops
15:53:48 <michel> ... plans are to transition from prototypes towards other ontologies and clinical decision support systems in real clinical settings. form collaborations with clinics and practitioners that use PGx data in decision making and see whether these tools/technologies work in practice
15:54:08 <michel> ... collaborate with PGRN (bob freimuth at mayo)
15:54:30 <michel> ... try to evaluate our system with PGRN sequencing
15:54:37 <michel> ... look at wiki page
15:56:10 <michel> joanne: commercial interest?
15:57:02 <michel> matthias_samwald: early still... we have made strides to make it feasible.  reasoners have improved and system is getting more performant
15:58:15 <Joanne_Luciano> before we go... "off topic"  does anyone know a head hunter they can recommend that understands the semweb space / or who might need help on a project from an expert in sem web / HCLS
15:59:02 <bobP> Matthias and Bob Friemuth will write a paper for J. Pharmacogenomics(?)
15:59:09 <mscottm> Objective: Create the technical foundations for spontaneous data discovery using SPARQL in a data federation, on the Web.
15:59:44 <mscottm> Status: http://bit.ly/1eA1DM1
15:59:55 <Zakim> -[GVoice.a]
16:00:05 <mscottm> Anticipated deliverables: W3C Note, Metadata Publishing Tool
16:00:59 <mscottm> Timeline: Draft December, Approved May
16:03:00 <michel> mscottm: lots of people involved - dbcls, biohackathon, bio2rdf, integbio, biosharing, biodbcore, uniprot, and more
16:03:34 <Zakim> -michel
16:04:53 <Zakim> -agray
16:05:30 <agray> I've dropped out again and I can't get back in (conference code is restricted)
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16:06:21 <mscottm> Alasdair - Joanne is asking for ideas for her 1 hr talk at IEEE Semantics and Computing
16:06:24 <mscottm> http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/edinburgh2013/
16:06:48 <egonw> agray: will you send her your scientific lenses work?
16:07:29 <Joanne_Luciano> One question is where to send them, in terms of current needs where their skills can be applied.
16:07:36 <michel_> zakim, who is here?
16:07:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see boycer, +33.1.73.71.aacc, [GVoice], Kerstin_Forsberg, +31.62.427.aadd, Joanne_Luciano, matthias_samwald, Bob_Powers, egonw
16:07:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see michel_, bobP, egonw, mscottm, charliem22, Joanne_Luciano, matthias_samwald, agray, achille_zappa, RRSAgent, Zakim, michel, mmd76, boycer, TallTed, ericP
16:07:49 <agray> Joanne, the paper that egonw mentions can be found http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-951/paper5.pdf
16:07:57 <Joanne_Luciano> thanks!
16:08:14 <agray> Happy to answer any further questions
16:09:04 <Zakim> -Kerstin_Forsberg
16:09:13 <boycer> thanks!
16:09:16 <michel_> thanks all
16:09:18 <Zakim> -boycer
16:09:28 <michel_> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:09:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/09/10-HCLS-minutes.html michel_
16:09:29 <egonw> thanks
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16:09:36 <michel_> rrsagent, make log world-visible
16:09:44 <Zakim> -Bob_Powers
16:10:07 <mscottm> Alasdair - I was just asking about Web-based SPARQL editors.
16:10:10 <matthias_samwald> exit
16:10:26 <agray> exit
16:10:29 <mscottm> I know about SNORQL but you apparently can't use SERVICE for federated queries.
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18:05:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.412.624.aabb, +33.1.73.71.aacc, michel, [GVoice], Kerstin_Forsberg, alasdair, egombocz, +31.62.427.aadd, boycer, EricP, matthias_samwald, Joanne_Luciano, AndyS,
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