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14:44:36 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:44:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:44:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:44:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
14:44:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:44:41 <trackbot> Date: 29 August 2013
14:45:13 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Aug/0016.html
14:45:17 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:45:21 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:45:26 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:45:30 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:45:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:45:49 <aphillip> agenda+ RADAR
14:45:54 <aphillip> agenda+ WebIDL and Date
14:46:04 <aphillip> agenda+ CharMod and PRECIS
14:46:14 <aphillip> agenda+ Ruby in DITA
14:46:34 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:46:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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14:58:48 <Zakim> +aphillip
14:59:47 <Zakim> +??P5
14:59:58 <matial> zakim, ??p5 is me
14:59:58 <Zakim> +matial; got it
15:01:34 <passepartout> zakim, dial richard
15:01:34 <Zakim> ok, passepartout; the call is being made
15:01:36 <Zakim> +Richard
15:01:37 <aphillip> zakim, mute matial
15:01:37 <Zakim> matial should now be muted
15:02:37 <passepartout> zakim, whos here?
15:02:37 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, passepartout.
15:02:42 <passepartout> zakim, who's here?
15:02:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, matial (muted), Richard
15:02:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see matial, David, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, passepartout, trackbot
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15:04:20 <Zakim> + +1.617.245.aaaa
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15:04:35 <aphillip> zakim, +1.617.245.aaaa is JcK
15:04:35 <Zakim> +JcK; got it
15:04:40 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
15:04:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see aphillip, matial (muted), Richard, JcK, Norbert
15:04:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, Norbert, JcK, matial, David, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, passepartout, trackbot
15:05:06 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
15:05:08 <aphillip> agenda?
15:05:14 <Zakim> +??P7
15:06:04 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:06:45 <passepartout> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:07:28 <aphillip> close ACTION-241
15:07:28 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-241.
15:07:56 <aphillip> close ACTION-243
15:07:56 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-243.
15:08:11 <aphillip> action ACTION-244
15:08:29 <aphillip> close ACTION-246
15:08:29 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-246.
15:08:58 <aphillip> close ACTION-249
15:08:58 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-249.
15:09:04 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:09:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:09:41 <aphillip> agenda?
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15:09:49 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:09:49 <Zakim> agendum 1. "RADAR" taken up [from aphillip]
15:10:02 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
15:10:42 <Zakim> + +44.141.888.aabb
15:10:55 <DavidClarke> zakim, +44 is me
15:10:55 <Zakim> +DavidClarke; got it
15:11:55 <aphillip> JcK: URNbis extended, no i18n issues so far
15:12:59 <aphillip> felix: ITS 2.0
15:13:01 <fsasaki> http://tinyurl.com/its20-comments-handling
15:13:15 <aphillip> felix: above link brings you to existing comments
15:13:19 <aphillip> ... one from RDF
15:13:29 <aphillip> ... complaints about URI scheme for RDF conversion
15:13:44 <aphillip> ... using hash URIs
15:13:50 <aphillip> ... want us to change that
15:14:05 <aphillip> felix: nothing related to I18N so far
15:14:09 <aphillip> ... close is 10 October
15:15:15 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: request one day extension from PRECIS
15:15:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-250 - Request one day extension from precis [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-09-05].
15:16:06 <aphillip> agenda?
15:17:24 <fsasaki> s/hash/undefined (in terms of mime type) hash/
15:17:27 <aphillip> cascading ended on 26th
15:17:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html fsasaki
15:18:03 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:18:03 <Zakim> agendum 2. "WebIDL and Date" taken up [from aphillip]
15:18:20 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Aug/0014.html
15:18:31 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22824
15:23:20 <aphillip> (discussion)
15:27:11 <aphillip> agenda?
15:27:22 <aphillip> zakim, take up agenduma 4
15:27:22 <Zakim> 'a\ 4' does not match any agenda item, aphillip
15:27:31 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:27:31 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Ruby in DITA" taken up [from aphillip]
15:27:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:27:57 <aphillip> felix: was contacted a while ago
15:28:03 <aphillip> ... how to represent ruby in DITA
15:28:14 <aphillip> ... some discussion
15:28:29 <aphillip> ... "people should wait until html5 is settled"
15:28:36 <aphillip> ... sent some pointers, etc.
15:28:41 <aphillip> ... they seemed okay
15:28:51 <aphillip> ... but not contacted again and eager to move forward
15:29:00 <aphillip> ... want to know what's holding up html5
15:29:13 <aphillip> ... I discussed details
15:29:23 <aphillip> ... e.g. different types of ruby in japanese
15:29:35 <aphillip> felix: question of any way to help move it forward
15:29:53 <aphillip> ... other thing was that they don't need 100% identical markup
15:30:00 <aphillip> ... as long as can be transformed
15:30:09 <aphillip> ... normal scenario of DITA is that you don't consume directly
15:30:32 <aphillip> felix: no reply yet, but don't think we should encourage other forms of ruby markup?
15:30:43 <passepartout> q+
15:30:56 <aphillip> felix: so: how can help? and what to define now?
15:31:04 <aphillip> ack passepartout
15:31:13 <aphillip> richard: if wants to help
15:31:27 <aphillip> .. write to html list and ask "what the @#$ is going on with ruby?"
15:31:35 <aphillip> ... want to implement and need progress
15:31:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:31:55 <aphillip> felix: some concern about doing in public
15:32:41 <aphillip> richard: can just say "dita needs ruby markup, waiting for you...", doesn't need to discuss specifics
15:33:17 <aphillip> addison: think we know what html is going to do?
15:33:34 <aphillip> richard: haven't heard from robin or the implementer guy of late
15:35:04 <aphillip> ... encourage ebook folks to write too
15:35:27 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: contact the epub folks and see if they will write to html asking about ruby
15:35:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-251 - Contact the epub folks and see if they will write to html asking about ruby [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-09-05].
15:36:52 <aphillip> ACTION: felix: ping dita folks about contacting html5 about ruby progress
15:36:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-252 - Ping dita folks about contacting html5 about ruby progress [on Felix Sasaki - due 2013-09-05].
15:37:19 <aphillip> agenda?
15:37:35 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:37:35 <Zakim> agendum 3. "CharMod and PRECIS" taken up [from aphillip]
15:38:18 <aphillip> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-precis-framework-09
15:52:46 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: remind all the make PRECIS review comments for next week's teleconferece
15:52:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-253 - Remind all the make precis review comments for next week's teleconferece [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-09-05].
15:54:42 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: write to PRECIS pointing out differences in approach vs. charmod, desire to align string matching, concerns about e.g. normalization
15:54:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-254 - Write to precis pointing out differences in approach vs. charmod, desire to align string matching, concerns about e.g. normalization [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-09-05].
15:55:21 <aphillip> agenda?
15:55:31 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:55:50 <aphillip> richard: it's "geek week" here
15:56:00 <aphillip> ... considering how to make it easier to get at resources
15:56:15 <aphillip> ... started making list of links for w3c cheat sheet
15:56:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:56:31 <aphillip> richard: also looking at web platform docs
15:56:36 <passepartout> http://www.w3.org/2009/cheatsheet/
15:56:55 <aphillip> richard: cheatsheet is really nice
15:57:05 <aphillip> ... so you can link from that document
15:57:36 <passepartout> http://www.w3.org/International/resource-index
15:57:49 <aphillip> richard: anyone ever used that
16:00:08 <Zakim> -fsasaki
16:00:43 <matial> I have to leave, bye.
16:00:55 <Zakim> -matial
16:06:40 <passepartout> http://www.w3.org/International/
16:08:22 <Zakim> -aphillip
16:08:24 <Zakim> -DavidClarke
16:08:25 <Zakim> -Norbert
16:08:32 <Zakim> -JcK
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16:09:29 <aphillip> addison: created .prep-precis and precis products in tracker
16:13:56 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
16:13:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:14:03 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
16:14:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard
16:14:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see DavidClarke, fsasaki, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, passepartout, trackbot
16:14:21 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended
16:14:21 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, matial, Richard, Norbert, JcK, fsasaki, +44.141.888.aabb, DavidClarke
16:14:26 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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16:14:31 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
16:14:31 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-actions.rdf :
16:14:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: request one day extension from PRECIS [1]
16:14:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-irc#T15-15-15
16:14:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: contact the epub folks and see if they will write to html asking about ruby [2]
16:14:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-irc#T15-35-27
16:14:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: felix: ping dita folks about contacting html5 about ruby progress [3]
16:14:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-irc#T15-36-52
16:14:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: remind all the make PRECIS review comments for next week's teleconferece [4]
16:14:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-irc#T15-52-46
16:14:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: write to PRECIS pointing out differences in approach vs. charmod, desire to align string matching, concerns about e.g. normalization [5]
16:14:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/29-i18n-irc#T15-54-42