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19:02:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
19:02:07 <trackbot> Date: 27 August 2013
19:02:13 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
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19:02:49 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
19:02:58 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
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19:03:13 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
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19:03:35 <clown> agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Aug/0016.html
19:03:56 <clown> scribenick:  clown
19:05:01 <clown> topci:  Test case 344
19:05:10 <clown> topic:  Test case 344
19:05:26 <clown> JS:  this has to do with aria-checked='mixed' on radio buttons.
19:05:38 <clown> JS:  all platforms are failing.
19:06:04 <clown> JS:  Rich has asked that at least two user agents to please implement the spec.
19:06:40 <clown> JS:  right, this is for a menuitemradio button, but it's the same problem.
19:06:46 <clown> CS:  why mixed on a radio button.
19:07:05 <clown> JS:  the spec says, if mixed on a radio button, expose as false.
19:07:22 <clown> JS:  FF exposes it as true.
19:07:35 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite_id=1&testcase_id=344
19:08:25 <clown> CS:  we may want to change this to MSAA.
19:09:17 <clown> CS:  we didn't implement TogglePattern for radio buttons.
19:09:35 <clown> CS:  but, we did implement selectable for radio buttons.
19:09:40 <clown> JS:  check boxes too?
19:09:43 <clown> CS:  not sure.
19:10:36 <clown> CS: but in any case, if we change the UAIG to say "expose in selectable  state and is-selected = false" UIA Express.
19:10:47 <clown> CS:  that might make IE pass this.
19:11:04 <clown> JS:  just to be sure, those MSAA states and properties.
19:11:08 <clown> CS:  yes.
19:12:35 <clown> CS:  menuitemcheckbox is using the checked state; menuitemradiobuttons is using the selected state.
19:13:21 <clown> CS:  I bet an old desktop radio button implements the selection state.
19:13:27 <clown> CS:  I'd have to go look.
19:15:49 <clown> JS:  so the proposal is to change the UAIG to map radio button aria-checked state to selectable states.
19:16:07 <clown> JS:  for the UIA express column.
19:17:57 <clown> CS:  radio button is not quite the same implementation, but it does expose a selectable action.
19:18:39 <clown> CS:  But, the UAIG for UIA TogglePattern is not implemented, and needs to be switched for UIA Express.
19:19:54 <clown> action:  Cynthia to look into toggle patterns and how that needs to be modified in the UAIG.
19:19:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1255 - Look into toggle patterns and how that needs to be modified in the uaig. [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2013-09-03].