12:23:39 RRSAgent has joined #er 12:23:39 logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/08/21-er-irc 12:23:41 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:23:41 Zakim has joined #er 12:23:43 Zakim, this will be 3794 12:23:43 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes 12:23:44 Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference 12:23:44 Date: 21 August 2013 12:28:16 cstrobbe has joined #er 12:30:18 WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started 12:30:25 +??P13 12:30:39 samuel has joined #er 12:31:16 +[IPcaller] 12:31:24 zakim, ipcaller is me 12:31:24 +shadi; got it 12:31:40 zakim, ? is samuel 12:31:40 +samuel; got it 12:32:02 trying to call in, but no luck. 12:32:54 :( 12:32:58 try to mute your line while typing in the code 12:33:10 + +49.711.892.3.aaaa 12:33:29 zakim, +49 is me 12:33:29 +cstrobbe; got it 12:34:03 can you hear me at all? 12:35:15 carlos has joined #er 12:36:07 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/WD-AERT/ED-AERT 12:36:30 +??P15 12:37:05 zakim, ? is carlos 12:37:07 +carlos; got it 12:38:34 Question about section 1.1: are evaluation tools in office suites out of scope? 12:39:26 SAZ: looking much better to me 12:39:33 ...shorter titles and descriptions 12:39:39 ...more to the point 12:40:18 SM: 2.2, 2.3, and 2.4 could be combined under a common header 12:40:26 ...all these emulate the browser 12:41:06 they try to emulate how browser retrieves resources 12:41:06 CV: any evaluation tool emulates the browser 12:41:20 ...had them together but decided to be more atomic 12:41:54 SM: emulates retrieval of the content 12:41:54 ...similar functionality 12:42:01 q+ Christophe 12:44:54 SAZ: maybe work with hierarchies 12:45:18 CV: difficult to find a common and accurate heading 12:45:59 ...crawling also related to these, for example 12:46:09 SAZ: how about parking this aside for now? 12:46:22 ...working with hierarchies might be good but later 12:47:14 ...might be good to focus on completeness for now 12:47:54 SM: agree 12:48:36 SM: missing features where users can add their own tests/checks 12:49:01 ...and configuring the way the checks are done 12:51:14 ...also other formats for reporting in addition to EARL 12:51:25 other reporting values 12:52:07 SM: for example extensions to the core EARL values in Hera tool 12:52:37 SAZ: how is that a feature? 12:52:54 SM: not a new feature, but part of the reporting feature 12:53:35 SM: intergration with IDEs 12:53:54 ...but also tools that integrate with browsers 12:53:58 integration with IDEs and CMS already appears, I'm missing integration with browsers 12:54:31 "or extensions in web browsers" 12:55:11 SAZ: maybe an explicit bulleted list will make the items appear more clearly? 12:55:41 -samuel 12:57:09 CS: are we excluding evaluation tools in office suites in 1.1? 12:57:33 ...though later on I see references to PDF and other formats 12:57:39 ...is it in or out of scope? 12:59:57 SAZ: certainly not intentionally exlcuding these 13:00:15 ...documents often land on the web and thus are part of web development and evaluation 13:00:28 ...but must not be side-tracked 13:00:54 ...please point out particular wording that seemed exclusive 13:06:12 SAZ: maybe break down reporting (2.6) into "report formats" and "report customization"? 13:06:34 ...maybe also add "report visualization", such as dashboards etc? 13:09:54 SAZ: also think 2.13 seems quite different in tone and approach to 2.2, for example 13:10:20 ...might be better to focus on encapsulated technical features that a developer can implement by itself 13:14:55 -carlos 13:14:58 -shadi 13:15:00 -cstrobbe 13:15:01 WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended 13:15:01 Attendees were shadi, samuel, +49.711.892.3.aaaa, cstrobbe, carlos 13:15:36 trackbot, end meeting 13:15:36 Zakim, list attendees 13:15:36 sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is 13:15:44 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 13:15:44 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/21-er-minutes.html trackbot 13:15:45 RRSAgent, bye 13:15:45 I see no action items