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16:53:07 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
16:53:07 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
16:53:12 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
16:53:12 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
16:53:36 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2013JulSep/0022.html
16:53:42 <Jan> Chair: Jutta Treviranus
16:54:04 <Jan> Regrets: Tim B. (partial)
16:55:33 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()1:00PM has now started
16:55:35 <Zakim> +Jeanne
16:56:27 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:56:28 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
16:56:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:58:16 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
16:58:16 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
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17:00:44 <Zakim> +??P2
17:00:53 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:01:17 <Jan> zakim, ??P2 is really Alastair
17:01:17 <Zakim> +Alastair; got it
17:01:26 <Zakim> +Tom
17:01:38 <Jan> zakim, [Microsoft] is really Alex
17:01:38 <Zakim> +Alex; got it
17:06:22 <Jan> Scribe: Jan
17:06:27 <Jan> Topic: 1. Re-chartering update (Jeanne)
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17:06:56 <Jan> JS: No new news...still waiting for feedback from some groups before sending to AC
17:07:01 <Jan> JS: Concers?
17:07:06 <Jan> All: None
17:07:18 <Jan> Topic: 2. CR process update (Jeanne and Jan)
17:07:32 <Jan> JS: Judy has accepted the exit criteria...
17:08:09 <Jan> JS: Have not yet had chance to meet with people from w3m
17:08:25 <Jan> JS: We need to have a resolution to go to CR
17:10:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:10:35 <jeanne> zakim, IPcaller is Jutta
17:10:35 <Zakim> +Jutta; got it
17:10:40 <Jan> JS: I also need to explain how SC changes aren't substantive...but 3 actually are
17:12:07 <Zakim> -Jutta
17:12:34 <Zakim> +??P5
17:12:47 <jeanne> zakim, P5 is Jutta
17:12:47 <Zakim> sorry, jeanne, I do not recognize a party named 'P5'
17:13:03 <jeanne> zakim, ??P5 is Jutta
17:13:03 <Zakim> +Jutta; got it
17:16:00 <Jan> JT: Any concerns with "If changes are deemed to be substantial, the working group agrees to publish another working draft of ATAG 2.0 with the shortest allowed timeframe for comments."
17:16:39 <Jan> JR: No objections
17:16:55 <Jan> JT: No objects heard
17:17:11 <Jan> Resolved: If changes are deemed to be substantial, the working group agrees to publish another working draft of ATAG 2.0 with the shortest allowed timeframe for comments.
17:17:32 <Jan> JT: Next steps Jeanne?
17:17:53 <Jan> JS: The only problem I expect is with re: to the "substantial changes"
17:18:14 <Jan> JS: I have been working on a package of info
17:18:45 <Jan> JS: Then I'm working on requirements .... back when we started there was no requirements for requirements
17:18:59 <Jan> JS: Evidence of wide review...should be ok\
17:19:14 <Jan> JS: Evidence of issues being addressed
17:19:24 <Jan> JS: Objections...none
17:19:33 <Jan> JS: Implementations...JR's document
17:20:17 <Jan> JS: And patent disclosure...none
17:20:35 <Jan> JT: How do we address?
17:21:13 <Jan> JS: Is working on it... I'm tying to bring in items from other WAI groups.
17:25:05 <Jan> JT: So we have a way forward?
17:25:16 <Jan> JS: Yes, will let you know.
17:25:29 <Jan> Topic: 3. SURVEY - Just two questions.
17:25:34 <Jan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20130807/
17:25:42 <Jan> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20130807/results
17:26:10 <Jan> Topic: Q1. EO2 - use of "MUST" in the Principles
17:26:17 <Jan> JT: All ok
17:26:48 <Jan> Resolved: All agree to remove must from the principles
17:27:10 <Jan> Topic: Q2. EO3 comment on B.3.1.2
17:32:11 <jeanne> B.3.1.2 Help Authors Decide: If the authoring tool provides *accessibility checking* that relies on authors to decide whether potential web content accessibility problems (WCAG) are correctly identified (i.e., manual checking and semi-automated checking), then the checker provides instructions that describe how to decide. (Level A)
17:35:32 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
17:41:19 <Jan> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2013/ED-ATAG20-20130627/#def-Checking
17:42:39 <AlastairC> last section: "instructions are provided as part of the authoring tool interface that describe how to decide."
17:43:06 <Jan> Action JS: Remove "An authoring tool may support any combination of checking types." from the bullets
17:43:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-389 - Remove "an authoring tool may support any combination of checking types." from the bullets [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2013-08-19].
17:44:41 <Jan> B.3.1.2 Help Authors Decide: If the authoring tool provides *accessibility checking* that relies on authors to decide whether potential web content accessibility problems (WCAG) are correctly identified (i.e., manual checking and semi-automated checking), then the authoring tool provides instructions that describe how to decide. (Level A)
17:45:33 <Jan> JT: B.3.1.2 Help Authors Decide: If the authoring tool provides *accessibility checking* that relies on authors to decide whether potential web content accessibility problems (WCAG) are correctly identified (i.e., manual checking and semi-automated checking), then the accessibility checking process provides instructions that describe how to decide. (Level A)
17:46:23 <Jan> JT: Any objections...
17:47:04 <Jan> AL: Don't hear problems
17:47:23 <Jan> Resolved: B.3.1.2 Help Authors Decide: If the authoring tool provides *accessibility checking* that relies on authors to decide whether potential web content accessibility problems (WCAG) are correctly identified (i.e., manual checking and semi-automated checking), then the accessibility checking process provides instructions that describe how to decide. (Level A)
17:48:05 <Jan> Topic: 4. Implementation report update (Jan)
17:48:34 <Jan> TB: Getting some support on this internally
17:49:42 <Jan> JT: OERPUB update... more accessibility prompting in the Sept release
17:50:04 <Jan> JR: Looked at Pinterest...does prompting
17:50:21 <Jan> JT: Also spoke to people in DAISY...EPub3 authorong enviornments...
17:50:38 <Jan> JT: ... will include many ATAG prompting featrues
17:50:56 <Jan> JT: DAISY will be publishing a list
17:52:17 <Jan> JT: Any other implementatipn updates?
17:52:24 <Jan> None heard
17:52:55 <Jan> JT: Status updates?
17:53:48 <Jan> AC: New Tiny MCE?
17:54:11 <Jan> JT: JR can you and GG take a look?
17:54:39 <Jan> JR: Word on EasyChirp?
17:54:47 <Jan> TB: Haven't heard anything
17:55:01 <AlastairC> Update http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dlembree/easy-chirp-2-contribute-to-an-inclusive-twittersph/posts/547644
17:55:51 <Jan> JT: Continue monitoring
17:56:05 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
17:56:49 <Jan> JR: Still looking for accessible IDEs
17:58:29 <Jan> JT: we are at end of time?
17:58:36 <Jan> JT: Other issues.
17:58:49 <Zakim> -Alex
17:59:11 <Zakim> -Alastair
17:59:12 <Zakim> -Tom
17:59:12 <Zakim> -Jutta
17:59:13 <Zakim> -Jan
17:59:13 <Zakim> -Jeanne
17:59:15 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()1:00PM has ended
17:59:15 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, Alastair, Tom, Alex, Jutta, Tim_Boland
17:59:29 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:59:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/12-au-minutes.html Jan
17:59:37 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public
17:59:43 <Jan> Zakim, bye
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17:59:48 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/12-au-actions.rdf :
17:59:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JS to Remove "An authoring tool may support any combination of checking types." from the bullets [1]
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