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14:03:03 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be TTML
14:03:03 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
14:03:04 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
14:03:04 <trackbot> Date: 08 August 2013
14:03:38 <plh> Previous minuts: http://www.w3.org/2013/07/25-tt-minutes.html
14:03:46 <plh> s/minuts/minutes/
14:05:18 <plh> Present+ Sean
14:05:22 <plh> Present+ Thierry
14:05:24 <nigel> zakim, who is talking?
14:05:29 <plh> Present+ Nigel
14:05:33 <plh> Present+ Mike
14:05:34 <Zakim> nigel, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sean (9%), ??P1 (4%), ??P2 (9%)
14:05:36 <plh> Present+ Plh
14:05:38 <plh> scribe: plh
14:06:05 <plh> zakim, p2 is Nigel
14:06:05 <Zakim> sorry, plh, I do not recognize a party named 'p2'
14:06:06 <nigel> zakim, i am ??p2
14:06:07 <Zakim> +nigel; got it
14:06:13 <plh> zakim, ??p1 is Thierry
14:06:13 <Zakim> +Thierry; got it
14:06:23 <tmichel> z
14:06:32 <plh> Topic: Progress on drafting ttml2
14:06:38 <plh> Sean: let's skip it that
14:06:45 <plh> Topic: Profile Submission
14:06:51 <plh> Sean: regrets from Pierre
14:06:58 <plh> Regrets: Pierre
14:07:07 <plh> Topic: TV IG input
14:07:11 <plh> also skipped
14:07:20 <plh> Topic: Issue 259
14:07:28 <plh> issue-259?
14:07:28 <trackbot> ISSUE-259 -- Define "closest" -- raised
14:07:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/259
14:07:39 <plh> Nigel: cfstt specify the round up rules
14:07:57 <plh> ... so it would be sensible to choose that rule, unless there are others
14:08:18 <plh> Sean: Glenn has an action to go through that
14:08:40 <plh> Topic: Issue 260
14:08:44 <plh> Issue-260?
14:08:44 <trackbot> ISSUE-260 -- When agent is not @type 'character', then should prohibit actor child. -- raised
14:08:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/260
14:08:58 <plh> Nigel: sent a suggestion
14:09:10 <plh> --> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2013Aug/0010.html
14:09:15 <plh> Topic: 261
14:09:20 <plh> Issue-261?
14:09:20 <trackbot> ISSUE-261 -- signaling docoument profile conformance is separate from decoder presentation requirements -- raised
14:09:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/261
14:10:02 <plh> Mike: let's differ one meeting, hoping for some input
14:11:44 <mijordan> mijordan has joined #tt
14:12:26 <tmichel> ISSUE-263 ?
14:12:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-263 -- profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints -- raised
14:12:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263
14:12:36 <tmichel> still open
14:12:40 <Zakim> + +1.617.347.aaaa
14:13:16 <mijordan> Zakim, +1.617.347.aaaa is mijordan
14:13:16 <Zakim> +mijordan; got it
14:13:21 <tmichel> ISSUE-264 ?
14:13:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-264 -- What XML entities are valid in TTML canonical syntax -- open
14:13:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/264
14:13:52 <tmichel> sill open Glenn and Sean point of view differ here. Needs more discussion
14:15:56 <plh> issue-265?
14:15:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-265 -- Some bad tests -- raised
14:15:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/265
14:16:41 <plh> Sean: we should do a pass at the test suite indeed
14:17:13 <tmichel> Should have new tests for the new stuff (like dynamic flow)
14:18:21 <tmichel> should run the test suite in Glenn's verifier
14:18:39 <tmichel> Let wait for some people to volunteer here.
14:19:43 <tmichel> plh TTML2 review ends on august 6th ... only two companies answered ...
14:19:54 <tmichel> Should extent by a week.
14:20:34 <tmichel> ACTION:plh to send a reminder for review of TTML1 second edition
14:21:15 <tmichel> plh: have a review until August 22 nd
14:21:29 <plh> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml10/spec/ttml-changes.html#change-history-per-to-rec-23
14:21:42 <tmichel> Last week of August we can't publish. So may publish early sept.
14:22:58 <tmichel> s/TTML2/TTML1 second edition
14:23:53 <plh> http://mpeg.chiariglione.org/sites/default/files/files/meetings/docs/w13651.
14:23:53 <plh> docx
14:24:01 <plh> http://mpeg.chiariglione.org/sites/default/files/files/meetings/docs/w13651.docx
14:24:45 <tmichel> ACTION-88 ?
14:24:45 <trackbot> ACTION-88 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to make sure the TTML media type is properly registered for Issue-175. -- due 2013-07-31 -- OPEN
14:24:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/88
14:25:18 <plh> I'll ping the IESG
14:25:55 <plh> issue-179?
14:25:55 <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- Interpreting the pixel measure -- open
14:25:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/179
14:26:56 <plh> action-141?
14:26:56 <trackbot> ACTION-141 -- Sean Hayes to call for Action to identify discrepancies in TTML 1.0 on different profiles. -- due 2013-02-14 -- OPEN
14:26:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/141
14:27:15 <plh> Sean thinking this one needs to be folded in a more general plan about feature cleanup
14:27:51 <plh> Nigel: not sure what the overall plan.
14:28:03 <plh> Sean: yes, we'll schedule a profile call
14:28:58 <plh> ... and find out how they're used
14:29:10 <plh> ... so folks needs to do their homework on profile first
14:30:00 <plh> action-166?
14:30:00 <trackbot> ACTION-166 -- Mike Dolan to open issue for 1.1 regarding encodings -- due 2013-06-27 -- OPEN
14:30:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/166
14:30:55 <plh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2013Jun/0129.html
14:31:49 <plh> issue-197?
14:31:49 <trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- charset/encoding unconstrained -- closed
14:31:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/197
14:32:40 <plh> action-174?
14:32:40 <trackbot> ACTION-174 -- Mike Dolan to open issue or send text for opening issue on adding ability for document to declare what profile it adheres to (from a document profile compliance perspective) -- due 2013-07-18 -- OPEN
14:32:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/174
14:33:13 <plh> Mike: we have a handfull of those...
14:33:33 <plh> Sean: I'll look into that then
14:34:22 <plh> action-182?
14:34:22 <trackbot> ACTION-182 -- Thierry Michel to create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed -- due 2013-07-25 -- OPEN
14:34:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/182
14:34:41 <plh> Thierry: we need to use http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml1
14:35:20 <plh> ... I did some updates in the tracker
14:35:58 <plh> Sean: we need TTML1, TTML2, and TTML.vnext
14:36:18 <plh> ... so you need to create TTML.vnext
14:36:22 <plh> Thierry: ok
14:36:36 <plh> close action-182
14:36:36 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-182 Create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed.
14:36:52 <plh> action-184?
14:36:52 <trackbot> ACTION-184 -- Thierry Michel to check with Angel if Monday/Friday is ok for TPAC 2013 -- due 2013-08-01 -- OPEN
14:36:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/184
14:37:06 <plh> Thierry: Angel agreed that we can meet on Monday and Friday
14:37:15 <plh> Sean: we don't need a reminder
14:37:45 <plh> plh: might be good to have a wiki page for the f2f
14:38:00 <plh> ACTION: Thierry will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting
14:38:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting [on Thierry Michel - due 2013-08-15].
14:38:10 <plh> Sean: don't forget to get a visa
14:38:46 <tmichel> plh: Charter update.
14:39:40 <tmichel> needs review from the CG.
14:40:23 <tmichel> have all the issues captured. Maybe should have an Action item for it
14:42:27 <plh> regrets from me for next week
14:42:32 <tmichel> regrets for me too next week
14:42:32 <Zakim> -mijordan
14:42:34 <Zakim> -nigel
14:42:34 <Zakim> -Plh
14:42:35 <Zakim> -mike
14:42:40 <Zakim> -Sean
14:43:10 <tmichel> oops regrets for me the following week ...
14:43:33 <tmichel> rssagent, draft minutes
14:43:56 <tmichel> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:43:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-minutes.html tmichel
16:05:00 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Thierry, in SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM
16:05:02 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
16:05:02 <Zakim> Attendees were Sean, mike, Plh, nigel, Thierry, mijordan
16:05:26 <plh> zakim ,bye
16:05:29 <plh> zakim, bye
16:05:29 <Zakim> Zakim has left #tt
16:05:35 <plh> rrsagent, bye
16:05:35 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-actions.rdf :
16:05:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: plh to send a reminder for review of TTML1 second edition [1]
16:05:35 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-irc#T14-20-34
16:05:35 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Thierry will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting [2]
16:05:35 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/08/08-tt-irc#T14-38-00