IRC log of tt on 2013-08-08

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Zakim, this will be TTML
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ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start 3 minutes ago
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Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 08 August 2013
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Previous minuts:
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Present+ Sean
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Present+ Thierry
14:05:24 [nigel]
zakim, who is talking?
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Present+ Nigel
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Present+ Mike
14:05:34 [Zakim]
nigel, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sean (9%), ??P1 (4%), ??P2 (9%)
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Present+ Plh
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scribe: plh
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zakim, p2 is Nigel
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sorry, plh, I do not recognize a party named 'p2'
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zakim, i am ??p2
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+nigel; got it
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zakim, ??p1 is Thierry
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+Thierry; got it
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Topic: Progress on drafting ttml2
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Sean: let's skip it that
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Topic: Profile Submission
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Sean: regrets from Pierre
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Regrets: Pierre
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Topic: TV IG input
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also skipped
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Topic: Issue 259
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ISSUE-259 -- Define "closest" -- raised
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14:07:39 [plh]
Nigel: cfstt specify the round up rules
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... so it would be sensible to choose that rule, unless there are others
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Sean: Glenn has an action to go through that
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Topic: Issue 260
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ISSUE-260 -- When agent is not @type 'character', then should prohibit actor child. -- raised
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14:08:58 [plh]
Nigel: sent a suggestion
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Topic: 261
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ISSUE-261 -- signaling docoument profile conformance is separate from decoder presentation requirements -- raised
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Mike: let's differ one meeting, hoping for some input
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ISSUE-263 ?
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ISSUE-263 -- profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints -- raised
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14:12:36 [tmichel]
still open
14:12:40 [Zakim]
+ +1.617.347.aaaa
14:13:16 [mijordan]
Zakim, +1.617.347.aaaa is mijordan
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+mijordan; got it
14:13:21 [tmichel]
ISSUE-264 ?
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ISSUE-264 -- What XML entities are valid in TTML canonical syntax -- open
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14:13:52 [tmichel]
sill open Glenn and Sean point of view differ here. Needs more discussion
14:15:56 [plh]
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ISSUE-265 -- Some bad tests -- raised
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14:16:41 [plh]
Sean: we should do a pass at the test suite indeed
14:17:13 [tmichel]
Should have new tests for the new stuff (like dynamic flow)
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should run the test suite in Glenn's verifier
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Let wait for some people to volunteer here.
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plh TTML2 review ends on august 6th ... only two companies answered ...
14:19:54 [tmichel]
Should extent by a week.
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ACTION:plh to send a reminder for review of TTML1 second edition
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plh: have a review until August 22 nd
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14:21:42 [tmichel]
Last week of August we can't publish. So may publish early sept.
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s/TTML2/TTML1 second edition
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14:24:45 [tmichel]
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ACTION-88 -- Philippe Le H├ęgaret to make sure the TTML media type is properly registered for Issue-175. -- due 2013-07-31 -- OPEN
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14:25:18 [plh]
I'll ping the IESG
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ISSUE-179 -- Interpreting the pixel measure -- open
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14:26:56 [plh]
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ACTION-141 -- Sean Hayes to call for Action to identify discrepancies in TTML 1.0 on different profiles. -- due 2013-02-14 -- OPEN
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14:27:15 [plh]
Sean thinking this one needs to be folded in a more general plan about feature cleanup
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Nigel: not sure what the overall plan.
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Sean: yes, we'll schedule a profile call
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... and find out how they're used
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... so folks needs to do their homework on profile first
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ACTION-166 -- Mike Dolan to open issue for 1.1 regarding encodings -- due 2013-06-27 -- OPEN
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14:30:55 [plh]
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ISSUE-197 -- charset/encoding unconstrained -- closed
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14:32:40 [plh]
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ACTION-174 -- Mike Dolan to open issue or send text for opening issue on adding ability for document to declare what profile it adheres to (from a document profile compliance perspective) -- due 2013-07-18 -- OPEN
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14:33:13 [plh]
Mike: we have a handfull of those...
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Sean: I'll look into that then
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ACTION-182 -- Thierry Michel to create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed -- due 2013-07-25 -- OPEN
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14:34:41 [plh]
Thierry: we need to use
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... I did some updates in the tracker
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Sean: we need TTML1, TTML2, and TTML.vnext
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... so you need to create TTML.vnext
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Thierry: ok
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close action-182
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Closed ACTION-182 Create ttml2 and ttml1 short names, to change tracker product labels as needed.
14:36:52 [plh]
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ACTION-184 -- Thierry Michel to check with Angel if Monday/Friday is ok for TPAC 2013 -- due 2013-08-01 -- OPEN
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14:37:06 [plh]
Thierry: Angel agreed that we can meet on Monday and Friday
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Sean: we don't need a reminder
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plh: might be good to have a wiki page for the f2f
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ACTION: Thierry will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting
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Created ACTION-190 - Will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting [on Thierry Michel - due 2013-08-15].
14:38:10 [plh]
Sean: don't forget to get a visa
14:38:46 [tmichel]
plh: Charter update.
14:39:40 [tmichel]
needs review from the CG.
14:40:23 [tmichel]
have all the issues captured. Maybe should have an Action item for it
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regrets from me for next week
14:42:32 [tmichel]
regrets for me too next week
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14:43:10 [tmichel]
oops regrets for me the following week ...
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rssagent, draft minutes
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate tmichel
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disconnecting the lone participant, Thierry, in SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM
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SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Sean, mike, Plh, nigel, Thierry, mijordan
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zakim ,bye
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zakim, bye
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 2 open action items saved in :
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ACTION: plh to send a reminder for review of TTML1 second edition [1]
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recorded in
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ACTION: Thierry will create a wiki for the face-to-face meeting [2]
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recorded in