IRC log of html-media on 2013-07-30
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- Zakim, this will be 63342
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- ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
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- Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 30 July 2013
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- zakim, ??p5 is me
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- +glenn; got it
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- zakim, what is the code?
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- the conference code is 63342 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
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- trackbot, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be 63342
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- ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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- Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 30 July 2013
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 15:01:07 [Zakim]
- I notice HTML_WG()11:00AM has restarted
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- On the phone I see [Microsoft], glenn, [Adobe], [Microsoft.a]
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- +davide
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- zakim, [Microsoft] is me
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- +paulc; got it
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Jul/0020.html
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- Regrets: John Simmons
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- +pladd
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- zakim, who is present?
- 15:03:10 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, paulc.
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- zakim, who is here?
- 15:03:25 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see paulc, glenn, [Adobe], [Microsoft.a], davide, pladd
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- On IRC I see BobLund, pladd, davide, joesteele, paulc, jdsmith, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, trackbot, wseltzer
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- zakim, [Adobe] has joesteele
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- +joesteele; got it
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- Looking for a scribe!
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- Scribe: joesteele
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- Chair: paulc
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Jul/0020.html
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- Topic: Agenda
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- +ddorwin
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- zakim, who is here?
- 15:05:53 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see paulc, glenn, [Adobe], [Microsoft.a], davide, pladd, ddorwin
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- [Adobe] has joesteele
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- On IRC I see ddorwin, adrianba, BobLund, pladd, davide, joesteele, paulc, jdsmith, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, trackbot, wseltzer
- 15:06:03 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
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- Topic: previous minutes
- 15:06:35 [paulc]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/07/16-html-media-minutes.html
- 15:06:49 [joesteele]
- paulc: don't believe anything specific -- actions have been carried forward
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- topic: review of actions items in the agenda
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- 15:07:09 [paulc]
- ISSUE-1?
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- ISSUE-1 -- Consider moving the Clear Key definition into a separate specification -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/issues/1
- 15:07:13 [joesteele]
- paulc: standing issue we plan on dealing with later
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- topic: EME status and bugs
- 15:07:38 [paulc]
- Editor's draft: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
- 15:07:49 [joesteele]
- paulc: editors draft has not been updated since July 16th
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- + +1.310.210.aaaa
- 15:08:07 [paulc]
- Outstanding bugs: http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo
- 15:08:08 [joesteele]
- ... as of yesterday - 15 bugs
- 15:08:38 [joesteele]
- topic: bug#21854
- 15:09:01 [joesteele]
- paulc: david replied this morning
- 15:09:06 [paulc]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21854#c16
- 15:09:38 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: a few minor tweaks about error state , ready state
- 15:09:53 [joesteele]
- ... discussion of keyadded versus keyready -- don't think keyadded needed
- 15:10:08 [joesteele]
- ... seems to m ethat every transition has an event so attribute would be a duplicate
- 15:10:20 [joesteele]
- s/m ethat/me that/
- 15:10:30 [adrianba]
- i think it is common to have such a state
- 15:10:38 [adrianba]
- look at XHR or FileReader
- 15:10:51 [joesteele]
- q+
- 15:10:52 [adrianba]
- but can easily live without it
- 15:11:01 [paulc]
- ack joe
- 15:11:33 [joesteele]
- joesteele: agree with adrian - can generate from events if needed
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- paulc: enough information to generate the proposal?
- 15:11:51 [adrianba]
- it's a useful debugging tool and not much effort to implement
- 15:12:48 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: this is adrians proposal, responding to adrians comments about XHR
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- ... believe that is the ready state event? thought this meant it was a duplicate
- 15:13:25 [joesteele]
- paulc: since folks can live without it - does Adrian have enough information?
- 15:13:46 [paulc]
- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see paulc, glenn, [Adobe], [Microsoft.a], davide, pladd, ddorwin, BobLund, +1.310.210.aaaa
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- [Adobe] has joesteele
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- On IRC I see JamilEllis, ddorwin, adrianba, BobLund, pladd, davide, joesteele, paulc, jdsmith, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, trackbot, wseltzer
- 15:14:00 [joesteele]
- rrsagent: generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 15:14:15 [joesteele]
- paulc: Adrian
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- ?
- 15:14:21 [adrianba]
- i think so
- 15:14:29 [glenn]
- zakim, [Microsoft.a] is jdsmith
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- +jdsmith; got it
- 15:14:29 [adrianba]
- at least to make progress
- 15:14:31 [paulc]
- zakim, [Microsoft.a] is jdsmith
- 15:14:31 [Zakim]
- sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft.a]'
- 15:14:55 [ddorwin]
- adrianba: re: XHR example, are you referring to readystate? readystatechange reflects a change in this event. This seems to be different from the proposal, which has a separate event for the transition into each state.
- 15:15:14 [joesteele]
- paulc: note in the minutes that Adrian will implement as ammended by conversation this week and last week
- 15:15:31 [joesteele]
- topic: bug 21855
- 15:15:45 [joesteele]
- paulc: dependent on 21854 - have a current comment
- 15:15:53 [paulc]
- Latest: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21855#c6
- 15:15:55 [Zakim]
- - +1.310.210.aaaa
- 15:16:06 [adrianba]
- well, XHR has a readystate variable as well as events - sure the model is slightly different, but it is arguably the same duplication
- 15:16:10 [adrianba]
- FileReader is the same
- 15:16:15 [adrianba]
- I think WebSocket is the same
- 15:16:24 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: not opposing, asking questions
- 15:16:52 [joesteele]
- ... some concerns I have are if you call createSession every time, you will have extrat session objects in memory that serve no purpose
- 15:17:00 [joesteele]
- ... also this is CDM specific behavior
- 15:17:03 [adrianba]
- image element fires load event and also has a status to say if it is loaded
- 15:17:09 [joesteele]
- ... apps might need to have to deal with this
- 15:17:28 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: we are sharing underlying sessions or keys
- 15:17:46 [joesteele]
- ... so we need to describe how they translate to actual key and session objects
- 15:18:19 [joesteele]
- paulc: lets split out the diff questions
- 15:18:19 [paulc]
- Are all such objects treated as identical? If not, what is the expected behavior?
- 15:18:38 [joesteele]
- pauc: do you have an answer?
- 15:18:45 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: no -- posing the question
- 15:18:51 [joesteele]
- q+
- 15:18:54 [paulc]
- We are assuming: Sharing underlying session/keys among MediaKeySession objects raises some interesting questions.
- 15:19:36 [joesteele]
- joesteele: think it would be very lightweight -- is that your thinking
- 15:19:38 [paulc]
- ack joe
- 15:19:42 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: still a memory leak
- 15:19:53 [joesteele]
- ... for TV playing and playing -- might never go away
- 15:20:04 [joesteele]
- joesteele: makes senses
- 15:20:10 [joesteele]
- s/senses/sense/
- 15:20:20 [joesteele]
- paulc: any answer? or can we move on?
- 15:20:21 [paulc]
- Can update() & close() be called on any of them?
- 15:20:51 [adrianba]
- you can only call update with a response to a keymessage on a given session
- 15:20:58 [adrianba]
- there has to be a correlation
- 15:20:59 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: I assume it would impact all of them
- 15:21:22 [joesteele]
- ... you should call update on whoever called keymessage
- 15:21:25 [adrianba]
- you may not get a keymessage if you go straight to READY
- 15:21:35 [joesteele]
- ... may be other times when the app calls update
- 15:22:03 [joesteele]
- q+
- 15:22:10 [paulc]
- ack joe
- 15:22:35 [ddorwin]
- is a keymessage is fired after READY (i.e. for renewal), one of the sessions should get the keymessage
- 15:22:52 [ddorwin]
- also, as joesteele says, update() can be called not in response to a keymessage
- 15:23:13 [joesteele]
- joesteele: we could use this as a channel for providing info from app to CDM so update could be called at anytime -- assuming this is allowed
- 15:23:25 [paulc]
- - Which MediaKeySession objects will receive keymessage events (i.e. for renewal)? What about keyerror events?
- 15:23:52 [joesteele]
- joesteele: assume that ALL of the objects would get them
- 15:24:14 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: probably only fire at one object
- 15:24:43 [joesteele]
- ... this would make N request to the server
- 15:24:45 [joesteele]
- q+
- 15:24:57 [paulc]
- ack joe
- 15:24:58 [adrianba]
- you should not get keymessage events to all the sessions
- 15:25:03 [adrianba]
- that's the problem we're trying to solve
- 15:25:07 [adrianba]
- you only need one keymessage event
- 15:25:23 [adrianba]
- because you're only going to perform one network interaction
- 15:25:34 [adrianba]
- if you fire against all sessions then you don't eliminate the network connections
- 15:25:58 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: may be talking about diff things -- I am assuming a single application
- 15:26:14 [joesteele]
- ... those would all be session objects for the same MediaKeys on the same MediaElement
- 15:26:26 [joesteele]
- ... yours seems to be re-using offline or saved keys
- 15:27:38 [joesteele]
- joesteele: good example - I was thinking of the domain key model where a domain key is shared between two applications
- 15:28:48 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: not a key?
- 15:29:03 [joesteele]
- joesteele: I am talking about an actual key -- acquired by both applications
- 15:29:17 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: close on that might be different
- 15:30:27 [joesteele]
- concern that you would be getting two types of keys in the same session
- 15:31:12 [joesteele]
- paulc: what do you think happens on close?
- 15:31:25 [joesteele]
- joesteele: think the keys are ref-counted -- would close as session is closed
- 15:31:43 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 15:31:44 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: question -- would domain key be saved only for the lifetime of the session?
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- Who just joined as +[IPcaller]?
- 15:32:54 [joesteele]
- joesteele: could be stored or could stay around only as long as a session is using it
- 15:35:00 [pal]
- zakim, i am IPcaller
- 15:35:00 [Zakim]
- ok, pal, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
- 15:35:25 [joesteele]
- joesteele: concern with keeping multiple instances of keys around in memory if needed
- 15:35:39 [joesteele]
- paulc: need answers in the bug to further resolve this
- 15:36:16 [joesteele]
- topic: ACTION-25
- 15:36:20 [joesteele]
- ACTION-25?
- 15:36:20 [trackbot]
- ACTION-25 -- David Dorwin to and John S to work on corner cases for bug 17673 -- due 2013-07-19 -- OPEN
- 15:36:20 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/25
- 15:36:38 [joesteele]
- topic: bug 17673
- 15:36:51 [joesteele]
- paulc: related to action above
- 15:37:09 [paulc]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673#c14
- 15:37:18 [joesteele]
- paulc: David, added lots of comments, are these implementation comments - would they allow someone to support this?
- 15:37:32 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: someone will have to deepdive into ISOBMFF
- 15:37:45 [joesteele]
- ... some of this is specific changes to proposed text
- 15:37:49 [joesteele]
- ... rest is more general issues
- 15:38:10 [joesteele]
- paulc: we expect John SImmons to be engaged here right?
- 15:38:12 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: yes
- 15:38:23 [joesteele]
- paulc: maybe we should wait until John comes back from leave
- 15:38:34 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: yes - need Johns feedback
- 15:38:42 [joesteele]
- paulc: leave action item open
- 15:39:05 [joesteele]
- ... move date forward?
- 15:39:35 [paulc]
- ACTION-25 is due Aug 13
- 15:39:53 [joesteele]
- action-25 due 08-13-2013
- 15:39:53 [trackbot]
- Set ACTION-25 And John S to work on corner cases for bug 17673 due date to 2013-07-19.
- 15:40:41 [joesteele]
- topic: bug 17750 (action-27)
- 15:40:45 [joesteele]
- action-27?
- 15:40:45 [trackbot]
- ACTION-27 -- Adrian Bateman to add comments to bug 17750 summarising the recent discussion of close -- due 2013-07-09 -- CLOSED
- 15:40:45 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/27
- 15:41:09 [joesteele]
- paulc: don't believe any responses to Adrian yet
- 15:41:23 [paulc]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750#c5
- 15:41:23 [joesteele]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750
- 15:41:54 [joesteele]
- paulc: any responses? looks like no
- 15:42:54 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: might have been looking for Marks input as well
- 15:43:03 [joesteele]
- ... don't have any comments other than that
- 15:43:21 [joesteele]
- topic: bug 18515
- 15:43:32 [joesteele]
- paulc: discussed on July 2nd
- 15:43:43 [paulc]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515
- 15:44:13 [joesteele]
- paulc: is this worth spending time on now?
- 15:44:26 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: respding to Joe's comment
- 15:44:35 [joesteele]
- ... behavior would be the same - not planning to change the state
- 15:44:50 [joesteele]
- ... just need to figure out how to implement
- 15:45:13 [joesteele]
- paulc: so you need to make a proposal or the change -- do you need more information?
- 15:45:34 [joesteele]
- ... see Joe's last question
- 15:45:40 [paulc]
- But I am not sure that fully answers the questions I raised. Does this mean the media element remains in the HAVE_FUTURE_DATA state forever? Or can the CDM signal that it has determined that the proper key will never be acquired and therefore playback should be stopped and an error reported?
- 15:45:48 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: not really in that state -- just behaving like that
- 15:46:42 [joesteele]
- joesteele: that makes sense - but would like to know how to determine this
- 15:46:54 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: not sure we can track this
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- 15:47:11 [joesteele]
- ... media element starts playing when it has keys and pauses when it does not have them
- 15:47:23 [joesteele]
- ... if we want an indication -- need to add something to the spec
- 15:47:30 [joesteele]
- ... some text that says media element is waiting for a key
- 15:47:47 [joesteele]
- ... follows some other non-identifiable states in the media element spec
- 15:47:58 [joesteele]
- ... don't actually have a state or event for this
- 15:48:05 [joesteele]
- ... this would be a media element state
- 15:48:20 [joesteele]
- ... not clear what you would do with it?
- 15:48:32 [joesteele]
- ... please bring forward a proposal on what you would use it for
- 15:49:04 [joesteele]
- joesteele: I will propose something in the bug after some more though
- 15:49:14 [joesteele]
- s/more though/more thought/
- 15:49:21 [joesteele]
- paulc: no more bugs today -- discuss scheduling
- 15:49:29 [joesteele]
- rrsagent: generate minutes
- 15:49:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 15:49:46 [joesteele]
- paulc: CFC out right now for taking MSE to Last Call -- ends this week
- 15:50:11 [joesteele]
- ... nominally MSE would meet next week on the 6th, but only two LC bugs to deal with and I am not available
- 15:50:24 [joesteele]
- ... could stay with same schedule -- MSE call occurs or not next week
- 15:50:44 [joesteele]
- ... or could do more work on EME right now -- I will prep agenda and we can make more progress on the bugs
- 15:51:01 [joesteele]
- ... concerned that we are not making progress outside the meetings other than David
- 15:51:14 [joesteele]
- ... need to decide what the right mtg schedule is
- 15:51:22 [joesteele]
- paulc: any holidays coming in August?
- 15:51:28 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: not anything major
- 15:51:40 [joesteele]
- paulc: Aaron is away this week
- 15:51:54 [joesteele]
- ... does is make sense for EME to meet next week?
- 15:52:02 [joesteele]
- joesteele: I would prefer to meet next week
- 15:52:28 [joesteele]
- glenn: should stay on EME and get the bugs down
- 15:52:41 [joesteele]
- joesteele: I meant EME
- 15:52:54 [joesteele]
- jdsmith: agree -- it would be good to focus on EME
- 15:53:26 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: most of the work is offline I think at this point - hard to discuss on a telecon
- 15:54:02 [joesteele]
- paulc: before mtg, sent a note to the editors on asking for help on bugs to process but never heard back from Mark or Adrian
- 15:54:18 [joesteele]
- ... are you saying these are outstanding because they are hard?
- 15:54:45 [joesteele]
- ... can you live with trying to meet next week? and editors could pick one or two to close?
- 15:54:48 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: yes
- 15:55:03 [paulc]
- Schedule: EME will meet on Aug 6 and Aug 13
- 15:55:03 [joesteele]
- paulc: I will propose we meet on both 8/16 and 8/13
- 15:55:18 [paulc]
- That means MSE misses one meeting on Aug 6
- 15:55:28 [paulc]
- And we will decide later who meets on Aug 20.
- 15:55:43 [joesteele]
- s/8\/16/8\/6
- 15:55:45 [joesteele]
- s/8\/16/8\/6/
- 15:56:08 [joesteele]
- paulc: will resend the editors msg -- but anyone can propose bugs to discuss at next meeting
- 15:56:19 [joesteele]
- ... or make a comment on a bug -- this will push to the top
- 15:56:27 [joesteele]
- rrsagent: generate minutes
- 15:56:27 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 15:56:31 [glenn]
- q+
- 15:56:32 [joesteele]
- zakim, who is here?
- 15:56:32 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see paulc, glenn, [Adobe], jdsmith, davide, pladd, ddorwin, BobLund, [IPcaller]
- 15:56:34 [Zakim]
- [Adobe] has joesteele
- 15:56:34 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see JamilEllis, pal, ddorwin, BobLund, pladd, davide, joesteele, paulc, jdsmith, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, trackbot, wseltzer
- 15:57:01 [joesteele]
- glenn: may be some bugs that have been pushed off because they are not getting a lot of attention but could be dispatched quickly
- 15:57:15 [joesteele]
- paulc: not assuming that, hoping for editors to tell me that
- 15:57:38 [joesteele]
- ... so unless someone nominates something specific we do them in reverse order?
- 15:57:42 [joesteele]
- glenn: yes
- 15:58:00 [joesteele]
- paulc: will work with the editors to determine the order
- 15:58:18 [joesteele]
- ddorwin: let me know if one is trivial
- 15:58:30 [joesteele]
- paulc: will do an agenda but won't be here next week
- 15:58:41 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 15:58:41 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 15:58:54 [joesteele]
- paulc: thanks all!
- 15:58:57 [Zakim]
- -pladd
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- -[IPcaller]
- 15:58:58 [Zakim]
- -paulc
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- -ddorwin
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- -glenn
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- -davide
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- -BobLund
- 15:59:04 [joesteele]
- ... we are adjourned
- 15:59:07 [Zakim]
- -[Adobe]
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- -jdsmith
- 15:59:10 [Zakim]
- HTML_WG()11:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were glenn, davide, paulc, pladd, joesteele, ddorwin, BobLund, +1.310.210.aaaa, jdsmith, [IPcaller]
- 15:59:13 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 15:59:13 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
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- 16:01:50 [joesteele]
- s/respding/responding/
- 16:01:52 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 16:01:52 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 16:03:28 [joesteele]
- s/8[/]16/8//6/
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
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- s/ends this week/ends next week/
- 16:04:33 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 16:04:33 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 16:04:47 [joesteele]
- s/does is/does it/
- 16:04:49 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 16:06:09 [joesteele]
- s/N request/N requests/
- 16:06:11 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 16:06:11 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 16:06:45 [joesteele]
- s/concern that you/ddorwin: concern that you/
- 16:06:47 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
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- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 16:07:50 [joesteele]
- trackbot, bye
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/30-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
- 16:07:59 [joesteele]
- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items