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16:52:31 <Jan> Zakim, this will be AUWG
16:52:31 <Zakim> ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()1:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
16:52:36 <Jan> Meeting: WAI AU
16:52:46 <Jan> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2013JulSep/0014.html
16:52:51 <Jan> Chair: Jutta Treviranus
16:53:08 <Jan> Regrets: Tim B., Alex L.
17:00:45 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()1:00PM has now started
17:00:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:00:49 <Zakim> +Jeanne
17:00:53 <Zakim> -Jeanne
17:00:54 <Zakim> +Jeanne
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17:02:23 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
17:02:23 <Zakim> +Jan; got it
17:02:48 <Zakim> +Tom
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17:11:19 <Jan> zakim, [IPcaller] is really Alastair
17:11:19 <Zakim> +Alastair; got it
17:17:41 <Jan> Scribe: Jan
17:18:07 <Jan> Topic: CR process update (Jeanne and Jan)
17:18:39 <Jan> JS: reviewing exit criteria...
17:20:20 <Jan> JS: Any questions, thoughts, concerns?
17:20:41 <Jan> JT: We should clarify that what we are proposing is that we are passing them by W3M...
17:20:52 <Jan> JT: So they can register and objections.
17:21:05 <Jan> JS: My only concern is the 2nd sentence in para 3...
17:21:53 <Jan> JS: It can be hard to explain the ATAG-WCAG relationship...3 levels each...but is unrealisitic to expect tools to meet every WCAG AAA SC
17:22:27 <Jan> JS: We chose the number two because it is common in W3C requirements
17:23:00 <Jan> JT: Any concerns about this proposed wording?
17:23:14 <Jan> JT: And are people ok sending it to w3m
17:23:20 <Jan> JR: +1
17:23:42 <Jan> AC: IF my looking at an individual tool....
17:24:41 <Jan> JS: Are we will try to choose diverse examples
17:25:47 <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2013/ATAG2ImplementationReport.html
17:25:58 <AlastairC> There don't seem to be any Non-text media examples in the top row of the implementing tools?
17:27:37 <Jan> JS: We have a couple of ideas
17:27:55 <Jan> TB: I checked on Worklight and it won't work for us
17:28:11 <AlastairC> Would xcode qualify for this? Code-level editor, but I think is accessible?
17:28:35 <Jan> TB: We are making progress on the other one
17:29:19 <AlastairC> I have it installed, I'll check it out. I can ask on a VoiceOver list as well.
17:29:46 <Jan> JT: So we should repeat to Cherie....
17:29:51 <Jan> Zaki, Jan has Jutta
17:29:57 <Jan> Zakim, Jan has Jutta
17:29:57 <Zakim> +Jutta; got it
17:30:01 <Jan> Zakim, Jan has Cherie
17:30:01 <Zakim> +Cherie; got it
17:33:07 <Jan> JT: Can people indicate when they have read the document...
17:33:29 <Jan> JT: then hopefully we can come to resolution on what to do.
17:33:58 <Jan> EC: I've scanned through it
17:34:13 <Jan> JT: Are people ok with this draft as it is?
17:34:16 <AlastairC> The exit criterial? Yep, it's good.
17:34:22 <Jan> JT: Are people ok with this draft exit criteria as it is?
17:34:44 <AlastairC> \me sorry, don't trust my audio, I'll type.
17:35:00 <Jan> JT: Does anyone object to the exit crieria?
17:35:06 <Jan> JT: None heard
17:36:09 <Jan> JT: Can we send to W3M?
17:36:13 <Jan> JS: +1
17:36:20 <AlastairC> +1
17:36:27 <Jan> JS: Also it is pretty informal
17:36:33 <Jan> JR: +1 to send it along
17:36:48 <Jan> JT: OK I think there is concensus to take that step and send it to W3M
17:37:41 <Jan> Topic: 1. Re-chartering update (Jeanne)
17:37:49 <jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2013/draft_auwg_charter.html
17:38:25 <Jan> JS: Some feedback received from W3M...
17:38:36 <Jan> JS: Did show enough diversity of devices...
17:38:45 <Jan> zakim, who's making noise?
17:38:56 <Zakim> Jan, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jan (55%), Jeanne (94%)
17:39:56 <Jan> JS: Had to change the milestones from saying CR in May to CR in Septemebr
17:41:04 <AlastairC> Yep, I assume that a year is a reasonable time for comments and changes from CR?
17:41:58 <Jan> TB: Looks good to me
17:42:41 <Jan> TB: but how does it compare to other guidelines?
17:43:14 <AlastairC> no objection
17:43:16 <Jan> JT: OK so are people fine with these changes to the charter (added mention of various devices and then changes to dates)?
17:43:19 <jeanne> +1 to the charter
17:43:20 <Jan> JT: Objections?
17:43:27 <Jan> JT: non eheard
17:43:41 <Jan> Resolution: Go ahead with  changes to the charter (added mention of various devices and then changes to dates)
17:44:57 <Jan> Topic: 3. Implementation report update (Jan)
17:45:16 <Jan> JR: Medium sized tools make excellent examples
17:45:37 <Jan> JS: Right, but enterprise tools are very valuable so please keep pushing for that
17:46:33 <Jan> JS: I don't want to overlook enterprise wide tools
17:47:26 <Jan> CE: OK, but the point has been made that enterprise tools out now won't be fully meeting ATAG
17:47:36 <Jan> JT: Yes, we want variety
17:47:36 <AlastairC> an accessibility orgnanisation I'm involved with is using an enterprise level CRM, I offered to check it over for them in the fall (when they have it implementated)
17:48:02 <Jan> JT: Great!
17:49:10 <Jan> JT: That's the agenda
17:49:19 <Jan> JT: There will be a meeting next week
17:50:02 <AlastairC> thanks all, bye
17:50:05 <Zakim> -Jan
17:50:07 <Zakim> -Tom
17:50:08 <Zakim> -Alastair
17:50:09 <Zakim> -Jeanne
17:50:09 <Zakim> WAI_AUWG()1:00PM has ended
17:50:09 <Zakim> Attendees were Jeanne, Tom, Alastair, Jutta, Cherie
17:50:17 <Jan> JR: I will send out announcement but may not be there due to CDN holiday
17:50:40 <Jan> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:50:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/29-au-minutes.html Jan
17:50:46 <Jan> RRSAgent, set logs public
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