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Shadi: some minor feedback on the draft charter
SA: most administrative, 1 on wording
preferences
... 2 comments - 1 about level of detail in the timeline of the charter. Ours
is unusually detailed.
<shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/charter4
Sa: our co-chairs need to know the cycle and how much time each step would take. But this doesn't necessarily mean that it needs to be in the charter
<shadi> 5 or more active participants
Sa: other comment - we have minimum participation
of 5 or more active participants - question as to whether this was too low. May
have to be increased
... will follow up with Simon on addressing comments in the charter - but we
are operating under the current charter. Change url to 3 rather than 4 at the
end
SA: has comments on the document and these have
to be talked through with the editors of the documents - Simon, Yeliz and Peter
later this week
... will bring the changes back to the group
SA: heard back from Marku who is interested in
working on the haptic and smart images symposia - will look at getting his
colleagues assigned to the group and get more support. Is going to recruit
co-chairs and hope to have this soon.
... no calls for the next 4 weeks but emails will be active
<Luz> not from me
SA: Kerstin representing editors
<kmatausc> No further updates. Klaus is at ICC and hardly to reach. We'll meet next week to discuss on some more administrative details from the report.
<kmatausc> updates to the list - we'll do so.
SA: when you meet next week can you please send an email to the list and let us know when the draft will be available?
DS: the plan was to meet and talk to Shawn but
was unable to make contact. No further news because of this, but will try to
speak with her before the end of the week. Wants to have something for the
group to review by the end of August.
... will confirm by email
SA: hope you can get in contact, but please
confirm by email and let us know
... we will be picking from the Wiki topics that we know won't be able to do
in the near future, but might still want to discuss and talk about it -
exchange ideas and perspectives etc. We will construct from those catalogue
items (online) where research topics are briefly summarized in there.
... we have people such as Klaus who are working on the catalogue over the
summer so by autumn we should see a first draft of the catalogue. But the
contents need to be provided through this group so we'll be working at that
when we're back in September. We;ll be having bi-weekly meetings on the
research topics.
DS: is this planned to map the current state of knowledge or identify topics where we think more work is required?
SA: its a mixture of both - not a road map - no
value judgement. There will be cases where we can see that there is needed work
in this area. In most cases we are trying to be neutral and describe a topic -
what is 'text customisation' for example.
... describe to the public what it is and provide a link to other resources -
help to coordinate research efforts.
... I could go to the catalogue and see what's there on my topic or on related
topics. Idea is to objectively list some of the different directions of
accessibility research. May help us to identify some gaps that are less served
by research which might be interesting.
DS: are are other more substantial research topics, but some of the work that colleagues to might be appropriate. They are more specific lines of enquiry - user interface including specific investigations to see what works best
SA: This is how it could be used. We have a
strong imbalance without much industrial research onboard and we're actively
trying to reach out to industrial research organisations. We hope that when we
get to publish our notes that this might attract more attention. Adding to the
Wiki and to these topics would help also to generate interest.
... foster change across disciplines, applied academic research
... add those topics to the Wiki
DS: I'll take this back to researchers
SA: others in the group might be interested in
that topic
... the example of design patterns
DS: correction - accessibility consultants rather than researchers :)
I put an email to the list about the accreditation idea today
SA: telemedicine, virtual reality etc for ideas for the catalogue. Could be a jumping board from the catalogue to future symposia
SA: we want the symposia within a 3 month
cycle
... we've been struggling with this for a while on how to get in a 3-month
cycle - where are the bottlenecks, or where could things be done more quickly.
Please look and provide thoughts and feedback.
... other topics or other business?
DS: happy to take a lead in developing the tips for developing accessibility
<peter> great!!
sorry Dave, I missed the last part of that
SA: it's an important and useful resource to those who want to be involved in accessibility research
<davidsloan> working title is "tips for accessibility-aware research"
SA: recommend to write a miniature requirements
analysis - who is it for, what is the purpose, what is the approach to be used,
and outline of what will be in there. Helps you and also gives something to the
group to review.
... maybe you can have it by September
... we have a call next week July 31st and then we'll have 4 weeks' break