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13:57:00 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
13:57:00 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see UW_DAP()10:00AM already started
13:57:01 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
13:57:01 <trackbot> Date: 10 July 2013
13:57:11 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, who is on the call?
13:57:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josh_Soref
13:58:40 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jul/0016.html
13:59:03 <fjh> fjh has changed the topic to: DAP 3279  ; agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jul/0016.html
13:59:25 <fjh> Chair: Frederick_Hirsch
13:59:28 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
13:59:30 <Josh_Soref> scribe: Josh_Soref
13:59:42 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
13:59:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josh_Soref
13:59:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, fjh, dom, trackbot, slightlyoff, anssik, Josh_Soref, mounir
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14:00:26 <fjh> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
14:00:26 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
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14:01:53 <dom> Zakim, ??P2 is me
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14:03:07 <fjh> zakim, where is 858?
14:03:07 <Zakim> North American dialing code 1.858 is California
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14:03:49 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
14:03:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josh_Soref, fjh, dom, anssik, Cathy, gmandyam
14:03:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see gmandyam, Cathy, RRSAgent, Zakim, fjh, dom, trackbot, slightlyoff, anssik, Josh_Soref, mounir
14:04:09 <fjh> Topic: Announcments
14:04:13 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute me
14:04:13 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should now be muted
14:04:20 <fjh> s/Announcments/Announcements/
14:04:31 <fjh> CfC in progress to advance Vibration API to CR (second CR), please respond by 16 July -  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jul/0005.html
14:04:47 <fjh> "MediaStream Image Capture" FPWD published - http://www.w3.org/TR/image-capture/
14:04:54 <gmandyam> Many thanks from my end too
14:04:55 <fjh> TPAC registration open (DAP status not clear, Media Capture TF meeting) - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jul/0007.html
14:05:27 <fjh> 31 July teleconference cancelled
14:06:10 <gmandyam> Will be at TPAC
14:06:16 <Josh_Soref> topic: Minutes Approval
14:06:24 <fjh> Approve minutes from 3 July 2013
14:06:25 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jul/att-0006/minutes-2013-07-03.html
14:06:26 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 3 July 2013 are approved
14:06:39 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: Minutes from 3 July 2013 are approved
14:06:46 <Josh_Soref> topic: Network Discovery
14:07:01 <fjh> ISSUE-129?
14:07:02 <trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- Simplify Network Service Discovery API -- open
14:07:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/129
14:07:11 <fjh> ISSUE-130>
14:07:11 <trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- Enable variety of protocols (e.g. UPnP, Bonour) with protocol independent developer code -- open
14:07:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/130
14:07:27 <fjh> ISSUE-131?
14:07:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Support UPnP device discovery by Device Type? -- open
14:07:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/131
14:07:42 <fjh> ISSUE-132?
14:07:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-132 -- Announce a webapp as a Network Services Discovery -- open
14:07:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/132
14:09:00 <Josh_Soref> fjh: we have jcd's open source implementation
14:09:17 <Josh_Soref> ... but we discussed last week that we normally expect shipping browser implementations
14:09:30 <Josh_Soref> Cathy: i'll need a bit more time to catch up
14:09:33 <Josh_Soref> topic: Action Review
14:09:43 <fjh> ACTION-523?
14:09:43 <trackbot> ACTION-523 -- Anssi Kostiainen to work on test cases for battery, vibration, and HTML Media Capture -- due 2012-08-31 -- OPEN
14:09:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/523
14:09:50 <fjh> ACTION-621?
14:09:50 <trackbot> ACTION-621 -- Anssi Kostiainen to create test cases for HTML Media Capture -- due 2013-03-13 -- OPEN
14:09:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/621
14:10:10 <fjh> anssik: getting internal help on this work
14:10:21 <fjh> anssik: so work is progressing
14:10:28 <fjh> ACTION-637?
14:10:28 <trackbot> ACTION-637 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to arrange for DAP charter extension, per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013May/0078.html -- due 2013-06-12 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:10:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/637
14:10:56 <fjh> ACTION-637: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Jul/0017.html
14:10:56 <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-637 Arrange for DAP charter extension, per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013May/0078.html.
14:11:01 <fjh> close ACTION-637
14:11:01 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-637 Arrange for DAP charter extension, per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013May/0078.html.
14:11:15 <fjh> ACTION-639?
14:11:15 <trackbot> ACTION-639 -- Frederick Hirsch to send Vibration CR CfC and make transition request once LC disposition complete -- due 2013-07-10 -- OPEN
14:11:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/639
14:11:30 <fjh> ACTION-639: CfC sent, once CfC completes will make transition and publication requests.
14:11:30 <trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-639 Send Vibration CR CfC and make transition request once LC disposition complete.
14:11:39 <fjh> ACTION-640?
14:11:39 <trackbot> ACTION-640 -- Frederick Hirsch to respond to Nick and Rigo re privacy concerns in Proximity, Light -- due 2013-07-10 -- OPEN
14:11:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/640
14:11:46 <fjh> ACTION-641?
14:11:46 <trackbot> ACTION-641 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to do a last check on battery and vibration test cases before merging in github master -- due 2013-07-17 -- OPEN
14:11:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/641
14:11:55 <fjh> ACTION-642?
14:11:55 <trackbot> ACTION-642 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to review proximity and ambient light test cases -- due 2013-07-17 -- OPEN
14:11:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/642
14:12:05 <fjh> ACTION-643?
14:12:05 <trackbot> ACTION-643 -- Anssi Kostiainen to review Ambient Light and Proximity test cases by Sept -- due 2013-07-10 -- OPEN
14:12:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/643
14:12:15 <Josh_Soref> topic: Issue Review
14:12:35 <fjh> network service discovery issues listed in previous agenda item
14:12:41 <fjh> ISSUE-128?
14:12:41 <trackbot> ISSUE-128 -- Need more description on how bandwidth should be estimated -- open
14:12:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/128
14:12:51 <Josh_Soref> topic: Other Business
14:13:19 <Josh_Soref> gmandyam: i'm wondering if we should abandon the network information api
14:13:24 <Josh_Soref> ... in favor of the work in sysapps
14:13:36 <Josh_Soref> ... which may be more like a connectivity manager api
14:13:44 <Josh_Soref> ... it might be more focused on wireless apis
14:13:48 <Josh_Soref> fjh: that came up
14:13:59 <Josh_Soref> ... i read that there was a slight nuance between the two
14:14:05 <Josh_Soref> ... the one in sysapps was more about control
14:14:15 <Josh_Soref> ... but if this isn't progressing, we'll probably need to shelve it
14:14:30 <Josh_Soref> ... i was hesitant to shelve it, because i thought there was some implementation support
14:14:44 <Josh_Soref> ... i don't like the idea of letting things look like they're progressing if they're not
14:14:51 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, unmute me
14:14:51 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should no longer be muted
14:14:57 <Josh_Soref> anssik: we should talk to mounir
14:15:32 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: Mozilla is having a Work Week in Toronto including the WebAPIs people
14:15:46 <Josh_Soref> fjh: i should be checking with them on the Web Activity work
14:16:02 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: i can ask them about that too
14:17:15 <Josh_Soref> Josh_Soref: we should thank dom for getting the charter extension approved
14:18:31 <Josh_Soref> fjh: thanks all
14:18:34 <Josh_Soref> ... have a good day
14:18:48 <dom> (regrets for me until first week of Aug)
14:18:58 <Josh_Soref> [ adjourned ]
14:19:41 <Josh_Soref> trackbot, end meeting
14:19:41 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:19:41 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Josh_Soref, fjh, dom, anssik, +1.781.362.aaaa, +1.858.750.aabb, Cathy, gmandyam
14:19:49 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:19:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/10-dap-minutes.html trackbot
14:19:50 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:19:50 <RRSAgent> I see no action items