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14:03:58 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:04:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:04:00 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
14:04:01 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started
14:04:01 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:04:01 <trackbot> Date: 08 July 2013
14:04:05 <JohnArwe> zakim, aaaa is roger
14:04:05 <Zakim> +roger; got it
14:04:07 <Zakim> +SteveBattle
14:04:12 <mielvds> zakim, +329331aabb is me
14:04:12 <Zakim> +mielvds; got it
14:04:44 <Arnaud> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:04:44 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it
14:05:26 <stevebattle4> stevebattle4 has joined #ldp
14:05:40 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:05:51 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:05:51 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:05:53 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:05:53 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:05:58 <Arnaud> yves?
14:06:16 <SteveS> scribe: SteveS
14:06:52 <SteveS> Topic: Approve minutes from July 1st
14:07:16 <SteveS> Arnaud: hearing no objections to approve minutes
14:07:20 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
14:07:30 <ericP> Zakim, [GVoice] is me
14:07:30 <Zakim> +ericP; got it
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14:07:40 <SteveS> RESOLUTION: Approved minutes from July 1st
14:07:40 <Zakim> +??P30
14:07:54 <SteveS> Topic: Update on actions
14:08:20 <SteveS> Topic: ACTION-73 have questions
14:08:25 <SteveS> ACTION-73?
14:08:25 <trackbot> ACTION-73 -- Arnaud Le Hors to [EDITOR] Update spec to reflect resolution on HTTP OPTIONS -- due 2013-06-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:08:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/73
14:08:37 <SteveS> JohnArwe: not sure what the editorial changes were
14:09:35 <SteveS> Arnaud: believe we need to make another change
14:09:56 <Zakim> +Kalpa
14:10:25 <TallTed> where's the resolution in question?  actions without clear link to whatever they're based on are hard to usefully review/follow...
14:10:48 <SteveS> SteveS: added it under paging, just the options support for first page
14:11:38 <SteveS> JohnArwe: couldn't find what editorial changes were needed based on following ACTION-73 to ISSUE-32 and what the changes for HTTP OPTIONS was intended
14:11:59 <Arnaud> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2013-06-18#resolution_2
14:12:22 <SteveS> JohnArwe: will take ACTION-73 out of pending review to open to make the changes
14:12:57 <mielvds> did we decide throwing out HEAD then?
14:13:33 <SteveS> Arnaud: ACTION-72 and ACTION-86 are pending review as changes are done
14:13:47 <SteveS> Arnaud: no changes to HEAD, OPTIONS is added
14:15:29 <SteveS> mielvds: believes we discussed changing HEAD from a MUST to a SHOULD, now that OPTIONS is a MUST
14:16:31 <SteveS> JohnArwe: can close ACTION-72 and ACTION-86
14:17:08 <SteveS> …but was looking for inferencing wording example where we don't need to put explicit in content that a LDPC is an LDPR
14:17:17 <Yves> I can't see why someone would want to avoid doing HEAD
14:17:30 <TallTed> please repeat, ericP, you were breaking up
14:18:02 <SteveS> Yves, I think that is what we concluded in Madrid…why avoid, you need to do GET anyway and there are so few MUSTs
14:18:52 <SteveS> ericP: believes it would be good to have the statement be that all knows facts should be included in the rep
14:18:55 <Yves> SteveS, also SHOULD is not a MAY, but still testing all the MUSTs will give a free win for this one
14:20:03 <ericP> don't: <p1> rdfs:subPredicateOf rdfs:membershipPredicate . <C> <p1> <item1>, <item2> .
14:20:27 <JohnArwe> ericp: normative text in draft is 4.1.13 LDPR servers MUST NOT require LDP clients to implement inferencing in order to recognize the subset of content defined by LDP. Other specifications built on top of LDP MAY require clients to implement inferencing. The practical implication is that all content defined by LDP must be explicitly represented.
14:20:44 <JohnArwe> ...was looking for simple (counter-) example to add to that.
14:20:46 <SteveS> Arnaud: PROPOSE to close ACTION-72 and ACTION-86
14:20:51 <stevebattle4> +1
14:21:00 <stevebattle4> :)
14:21:01 <SteveS> +1
14:21:01 <mielvds> +1
14:21:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
14:21:16 <TallTed> +0
14:21:24 <Arnaud> Resolved: close ACTION-72 and ACTION-86
14:21:58 <SteveS> Arnaud: Update from the editors?
14:22:08 <stevebattle4> We still need those UC&R reviews (you know who you are).
14:22:31 <SteveS> …can  we have all edits done by next Monday (July 15)?
14:22:38 <SteveS> SteveS: yes
14:22:41 <SteveS> JohnArwe: yes
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14:23:08 <SteveS> Arnaud: all WG members should have their review glasses ready on July 15th
14:23:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:23:23 <cody> Zakim, IPcaller is me
14:23:23 <Zakim> +cody; got it
14:23:28 <SteveS> Arnaud: hearing no issues with this proposed schedule
14:23:44 <stevebattle4> q+
14:23:48 <SteveS> Topic: Other status reports
14:23:49 <JohnArwe> I should also note, on action-80, the spec update (remove 4.1.5) is done.  Action is still open for the "add to BP" part.
14:23:56 <Arnaud> ack steveb
14:24:38 <SteveS> stevebattle4: Handling the various review comments, both making changes and providing feedback
14:24:40 <JohnArwe> q+ to see if action-82 can be done in time to draft LC content
14:25:01 <roger> +q
14:25:03 <Arnaud> ack john
14:25:03 <Zakim> JohnArwe, you wanted to see if action-82 can be done in time to draft LC content
14:25:31 <stevebattle4> It's the only way I can get all my work done :)
14:25:53 <SteveS> JohnArwe: wanted to see if we can move up GSP review on mielvds to fend off any LC issues
14:26:39 <SteveS> mielvds: plans to get to it next week
14:26:44 <JohnArwe> q+ to ask arnaud about process for LC comments
14:26:53 <Arnaud> ack roger
14:27:32 <SteveS> roger: Primer has taken the wiki and put in respec form and in the repo
14:27:50 <SteveS> …looking to add feature to pick your own format
14:27:54 <Arnaud> ack john
14:27:54 <Zakim> JohnArwe, you wanted to ask arnaud about process for LC comments
14:28:08 <SteveS> JohnArwe: How we are going to handle LC comments?
14:28:43 <SteveS> ericP: we can setup a mailing list for comments
14:29:08 <SteveS> https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/
14:29:47 <ericP> ACTION: coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org
14:29:47 <trackbot> Error finding 'coordinate'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/users>.
14:30:04 <ericP> ACTION: ericP to coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org
14:30:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2013-07-15].
14:30:32 <SteveS> Arnaud: any other topics?
14:30:38 <SteveS> …hearing none
14:31:12 <mielvds> bye
14:31:13 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
14:31:14 <stevebattle4> bye
14:31:14 <Zakim> -SteveBattle
14:31:15 <Zakim> -roger
14:31:15 <Zakim> -Yves
14:31:18 <Zakim> -Arnaud
14:31:18 <Zakim> -cody
14:31:18 <Zakim> -mielvds
14:31:19 <Zakim> -Kalpa
14:31:21 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting
14:31:21 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:31:21 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been JohnArwe, BartvanLeeuwen, SteveS, +44.208.5.aaaa, roger, SteveBattle, mielvds, Arnaud, TallTed, ericP, Yves, Kalpa, cody
14:31:26 <Zakim> -ericP
14:31:29 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:31:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/08-ldp-minutes.html trackbot
14:31:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:31:30 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/08-ldp-actions.rdf :
14:31:30 <RRSAgent> ACTION: coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org [1]
14:31:30 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/08-ldp-irc#T14-29-47
14:31:30 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org [2]
14:31:30 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/08-ldp-irc#T14-30-04