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14:51:05 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:51:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:51:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:51:09 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
14:51:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:51:10 <trackbot> Date: 27 June 2013
14:51:25 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jun/0027.html
14:51:31 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:51:35 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:51:39 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:51:45 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:51:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/27-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:51:56 <aphillip> agenda+ RADAR Review
14:52:02 <aphillip> agenda+ ITS 2.0
14:52:07 <aphillip> agenda+ Bidi Ellipses
14:52:13 <aphillip> agenda+ Charmod-Norm
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14:59:04 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has now started
14:59:11 <Zakim> +aphillip
14:59:49 <Zakim> + +44.141.888.aaaa
14:59:49 <Zakim> +??P12
15:00:02 <David> Zakim, +44 is me
15:00:03 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:00:06 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:00:06 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:00:07 <Zakim> +Richard
15:00:26 <Zakim> +??P15
15:00:35 <matial> zakim, ??p15 is me
15:00:35 <Zakim> +matial; got it
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15:02:02 <matial> do you still hear echo from my line?
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15:05:14 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
15:05:17 <aphillip> agenda?
15:05:32 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
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15:05:40 <Zakim> + +1.617.245.aabb
15:06:10 <aphillip> close ACTION-183
15:06:10 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-183 Write draft of new charmod-norm.
15:06:20 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:06:24 <aphillip> close ACTION-229
15:06:24 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-229 Move charmodnorm to w3c site.
15:06:40 <aphillip> close ACTION-233
15:06:40 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-233 Follow up with richard on getting Encodings spec ready for FPWD.
15:06:58 <Zakim> +Norbert
15:07:53 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:08:26 <aphillip> Norbert: discussing JSON RFC
15:08:40 <aphillip> ... intent is to move to standards track
15:08:49 <aphillip> ... and folks have noticed some inconsistencies
15:08:54 <aphillip> ... some involving Unicode characters
15:09:04 <aphillip> ... particularly about supplementary code points
15:09:21 <aphillip> ... and one proposal was to close discussion without change (just notes)
15:09:25 <aphillip> ... but others opposed
15:11:52 <aphillip> Addison: if STD, then they really should follow the process
15:11:56 <aphillip> ... as painful as that is
15:12:58 <aphillip> JcK: STD should be no defects
15:16:04 <aphillip> Addison: any WG response needed?
15:16:49 <aphillip> JcK: need to take broken things out of the standard
15:19:55 <aphillip> agenda?
15:20:08 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:20:08 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ITS 2.0" taken up [from aphillip]
15:20:08 <Norbert> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/json/current/maillist.html
15:20:31 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jun/0025.html
15:21:17 <fsasaki> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jun/0026.html
15:21:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/27-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:21:52 <aphillip> Felix: do we have any objections?
15:22:01 <aphillip> Richard: any objeciton to closing the three items I mentioned
15:22:10 <aphillip> s/objeciton/objection/
15:22:16 <aphillip> (no objections voiced)
15:22:34 <aphillip> Richard: took me a long time to figure out the respsonse (tracker kind of messy?)
15:23:01 <aphillip> Felix: creating "disposition of comments" document
15:23:05 <aphillip> ... based on tracker and emails
15:23:22 <fsasaki> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jun/0026.html
15:23:29 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jun/0026.html
15:23:44 <aphillip> Felix: domain metadata category
15:24:06 <aphillip> ... comment saying "if main value maps to nothing"
15:24:10 <aphillip> ... have a step for that
15:24:34 <aphillip> Felix: 104
15:24:48 <aphillip> ... have a link to require most recent Unicode
15:25:04 <aphillip> Felix: 105 from Norbert
15:25:35 <aphillip> ... already decided to only a small subset of regex so didn't allow those escapes
15:26:17 <aphillip> Addison: block and script escapes would be useful to ITS??
15:26:29 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#allowedchars-definition
15:26:37 <fsasaki> "The regular expression is the character class construct charClass defined as follows:"
15:26:42 <aphillip> Felix: the subset was to support various engines, etc.
15:27:07 <aphillip> I18N-ISSUE-245
15:27:21 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/issues/245
15:28:22 <aphillip> Chair: anyone *DIS*satisfied with a response?
15:28:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/27-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:28:45 <aphillip> norbert: no
15:28:47 <aphillip> felix: no
15:29:10 <Zakim> -fsasaki
15:29:46 <fsasaki> apologies for having to leave now, conflicting call - thanks a lot for helping with moving ITS2 forward
15:30:14 <aphillip> ACTION: Felix: close ITS2.0 I18N issues (in I18N tracker) as "satisfied"
15:30:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-235 - Close ITS2.0 I18N issues (in I18N tracker) as "satisfied" [on Felix Sasaki - due 2013-07-04].
15:30:23 <aphillip> agenda?
15:30:38 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:30:38 <Zakim> agendum 1. "RADAR Review" taken up [from aphillip]
15:31:30 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jun/0019.html
15:31:35 <aphillip> CSS-Shapes
15:31:46 <aphillip>  The only comment I have is that there doesn't appear to be any thought given to image flipping in an RTL context, such as the proposed 'rtlflip' property [1] (what is the status of 'rtlflip', anyway?).  [1] http://www.w3.org/International/docs/html-bidi-requirements/#image-flip
15:32:43 <aphillip> Norbert: and how does it integrate with Writing Modes
15:33:10 <aphillip> addison: looks like we might have comments?
15:33:18 <aphillip> Norbert: mostly outside the spec, though?
15:33:52 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: trackerize Shapes and write to www-style to ask about rtlflip and writing-modes
15:33:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-236 - Trackerize Shapes and write to www-style to ask about rtlflip and writing-modes [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-07-04].
15:34:00 <aphillip> agenda?
15:34:35 <aphillip> zakim, take up charmod-norm
15:34:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up charmod-norm', aphillip
15:34:45 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:34:45 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Charmod-Norm" taken up [from aphillip]
15:34:52 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:34:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/27-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:35:30 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2013Jun/0024.html
15:36:07 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/charmod-norm/
15:53:56 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: add additional sections/material suggested in telecon
15:53:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-237 - Add additional sections/material suggested in telecon [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-07-04].
15:54:11 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: schedule on-line edit session for charmod-norm
15:54:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-238 - Schedule on-line edit session for charmod-norm [on Addison Phillips - due 2013-07-04].
15:54:37 <aphillip> agenda?
15:55:14 <matial> better do it with Aharon present
15:55:14 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:55:29 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:55:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/27-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:55:56 <Zakim> -David
15:55:58 <Zakim> -aphillip
15:55:59 <Zakim> -Norbert
15:56:01 <Zakim> -matial
15:56:09 <Zakim> -JcK
15:56:13 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
15:56:16 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
15:56:17 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended
15:56:17 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, +44.141.888.aaaa, fsasaki, David, Richard, matial, +1.617.245.aabb, JcK, Norbert
15:56:59 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Norbert, David, Mati, JohnK, Felix
15:57:07 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:57:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/27-i18n-minutes.html aphillip