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14:58:53 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 73394
14:58:53 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:58:54 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
14:58:54 <trackbot> Date: 26 June 2013
14:59:12 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
14:59:12 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has not yet started, Guus
14:59:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, davidwood, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu, mischat, ericP, sandro
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15:00:09 <pfps> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:00:09 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has not yet started, pfps
15:00:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see pfps, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, davidwood, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu, mischat, ericP, sandro
15:00:28 <pfps> zakim, this will be rdf-wg
15:00:28 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, pfps
15:00:35 <AndyS> zakim problems?  code not recognized
15:00:42 <pfps> zakim, this will be 73394
15:00:43 <Zakim> ok, pfps; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start now
15:00:44 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
15:00:45 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has not yet started, Guus
15:00:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see pfps, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, davidwood, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu, mischat, ericP, sandro
15:01:22 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF-WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ -- agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.06.26
15:01:25 <AndyS> zakim, code?
15:01:26 <Zakim> the conference code is 73394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), AndyS
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15:01:31 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:01:31 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:01:35 <Guus> chair: Guus
15:01:47 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here
15:01:47 <Zakim> TallTed, you need to end that query with '?'
15:01:50 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
15:01:50 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has not yet started, TallTed
15:01:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see ScottB, pfps, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, davidwood, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu, mischat, ericP,
15:01:51 <Zakim> ... sandro
15:01:54 <TallTed> Zakim, this is rdfwg
15:01:54 <Zakim> ok, TallTed; that matches SW_RDFWG()11:00AM
15:01:58 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
15:01:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, +1.408.992.aaaa, +1.415.686.aabb, [OpenLink], EricP
15:02:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see ScottB, pfps, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, davidwood, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu, mischat, ericP,
15:02:01 <Zakim> ... sandro
15:02:13 <TallTed> Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me
15:02:13 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
15:02:14 <Zakim> + +1.707.318.aacc
15:02:16 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
15:02:16 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
15:02:20 <Zakim> +??P15
15:02:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:02:23 <cgreer> zakim, aacc is me
15:02:24 <Zakim> +cgreer; got it
15:02:25 <Zakim> +??P28
15:02:26 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me
15:02:26 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
15:02:28 <pchampin> zakim, ??P15 is me
15:02:28 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it
15:02:34 <Zakim> - +1.415.686.aabb
15:02:35 <yvesr> Zakim, ??P28 is me
15:02:36 <Zakim> +yvesr; got it
15:02:46 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
15:02:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, +1.408.992.aaaa, TallTed (muted), EricP, cgreer, pchampin, AndyS, yvesr
15:02:47 <TallTed> trackbot, start meeting
15:02:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see ScottB, pfps, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, davidwood, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu, mischat, ericP,
15:02:48 <Zakim> ... sandro
15:02:49 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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15:02:51 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 73394
15:02:51 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
15:02:52 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:02:52 <trackbot> Date: 26 June 2013
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15:04:12 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:04:12 <Zakim> sorry, TallTed, I don't know what conference this is
15:04:34 <TallTed> Zakim, this is rdfwg
15:04:34 <Zakim> ok, TallTed; that matches SW_RDFWG()11:00AM
15:04:38 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
15:04:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, +1.408.992.aaaa, TallTed (muted), EricP, cgreer, pchampin, AndyS, yvesr, Sandro, +1.415.686.aadd, GavinC
15:04:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see PatH, markus, ScottB, pfps, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu, mischat,
15:04:40 <Zakim> ... ericP, sandro
15:04:44 <Zakim> +PatH
15:04:48 <Zakim> +Arnaud
15:04:52 <Zakim> +??P42
15:04:57 <markus> zakim, ??P42 is me
15:04:57 <Zakim> +markus; got it
15:06:40 <markus> scribe: markus
15:06:56 <markus> guus: comments on minutes of last meeting?
15:07:12 <Guus> zakim, this is rdf-wg
15:07:12 <Zakim> sorry, Guus, I do not see a conference named 'rdf-wg' in progress or scheduled at this time
15:07:14 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:07:14 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
15:07:24 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting
15:07:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:07:28 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 73394
15:07:28 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start 7 minutes ago
15:07:29 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:07:29 <trackbot> Date: 26 June 2013
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15:08:16 <markus> RESOLVED: accept the minutes of the 19 June telecon
15:08:20 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
15:08:20 <Zakim> I notice SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has restarted
15:08:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, +1.408.992.aaaa, TallTed, EricP, cgreer, pchampin, AndyS, yvesr, Sandro, +1.415.686.aadd, GavinC, PatH, Arnaud, markus, Souri
15:08:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see Souri, PatH, markus, ScottB, pfps, Zakim, RRSAgent, Arnaud, Guus, pchampin, cgreer, AndyS, gkellogg, TallTed, manu1, SteveH, gavinc, tlr, yvesr, trackbot, manu,
15:08:21 <Zakim> ... mischat, ericP, sandro
15:08:31 <pfps> q+
15:08:35 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
15:08:35 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
15:09:00 <markus> pfps: there's no note on skolemization etc. it's not done
15:09:12 <markus> guus: ok, I'll change the state to "open"
15:09:13 <pfps> Concepts doesn't have anything on compatability or skolemization as per the action item.
15:09:20 <Zakim> +Tony
15:09:51 <ScottB> Zakim, Tony is temporarily me
15:09:51 <Zakim> +ScottB; got it
15:09:59 <markus> TOPIC: publication of test suites
15:10:32 <markus> guus: the official title is Turtle test suite but that will have to change
15:10:34 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2013/TurtleTests/
15:10:40 <ericP> Tests for Turtle - Terse RDF Triple Language
15:11:10 <markus> ericP: I believe the directory is also specific so we'll use other directories for other test suites
15:11:16 <markus> guus: I was talking about the wiki page
15:11:20 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Turtle_Test_Suite#Turtle_Tests
15:11:46 <markus> ericp: we can certainly change that. I'll fix it
15:12:14 <markus> ... there were 3-4 actions on me on this: license, zip, respond to some commenters
15:12:36 <markus> ... we declined one request *sorry missed it, something with ASCII chars*
15:12:48 <markus> ... have replies for other commenters ready
15:12:58 <markus> ... everything is reflected in wiki page
15:13:35 <markus> guus: there's also a link from comments from andy
15:13:59 <gavinc> and someone needs to write back on PrEfIx/BaSe
15:14:01 <markus> ericp: there's zip file (maybe not up to date).. I'll update it
15:14:02 <AndyS> EricP: rolleg NT results to be classic NT i.e. ASCII only, not UTF-8
15:14:08 <markus> guus: license?
15:14:19 <markus> ericp: it's fixed
15:14:28 <gkellogg> q+
15:14:38 <markus> guus: so ready to be published?
15:14:48 <markus> ericp: once we agree to accept those changes
15:15:06 <markus> andys: where did you make the changes?
15:15:14 <markus> ericp: perhaps I didn't pushed yet
15:15:30 <markus> s/pushed/push it/
15:15:49 <markus> ericp: everything under cvs now, not under mercurial anymore
15:16:28 <markus> gavinc: (?) do I have to get the zip and diff to get the changes?
15:16:51 <markus> ericp: I can also give you the changes
15:16:56 <markus> gavinc: log from cvs is fine too
15:17:07 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2013/TurtleTests/manifest.ttl
15:17:30 <markus> ericp: manifest has the changes.. look for "jeremy"
15:17:52 <markus> ... I'll give you the log for the ascii in n-triples changes
15:18:18 <AndyS> AndyS: 291 tests, all passed, latest zip file.
15:18:23 <gkellogg> q?
15:18:48 <pfps> q-
15:19:01 <Guus> ack gkellogg
15:19:05 <gavinc> yeah, but http://www.w3.org/2013/TurtleTests/comment_following_localName.ttl
15:19:18 <gavinc> So no, I can't see changes ;)
15:19:22 <markus> gkellogg: will this wiki page be updated with info for nquads and trig?
15:19:29 <markus> ... I think there's no test suite for trig yet
15:20:06 <markus> s/trig yet/n-quads yet/
15:20:22 <markus> ... I'm happy to create a first version of the n-quads test suite
15:21:06 <markus> guus: I would just call it RDF Test Suites
15:21:32 <markus> sandro: maybe just RDF Tests?
15:21:38 <ericP> RDF Test Sweets?
15:21:43 <gavinc> Clearly
15:22:15 <markus> ACTION on gkellog to create first version of n-quads test suite
15:22:15 <trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/users>.
15:22:26 <markus> ACTION for gkellog to create first version of n-quads test suite
15:22:26 <trackbot> Error finding 'for'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/users>.
15:22:32 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/RDF_Test_Suites RDF Test Suites
15:22:55 <markus> ACTION gkellog: create first version of n-quads test suite
15:22:55 <trackbot> Error finding 'gkellog'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/users>.
15:23:11 <tlr> heads-up: I expect a *very* highly attended TPWG call at the top of the hour.
15:23:17 <gkellogg> s/gkellog/gkellogg/
15:23:20 <tlr> Please clear the bridge around 11:58 or so
15:23:21 <tlr> thank you
15:23:21 <markus> ACTION gkellogg: create first version of n-quads test suite
15:23:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-275 - Create first version of n-quads test suite [on Gregg Kellogg - due 2013-07-03].
15:23:47 <AndyS> gavinc: TriG ready LC draft next week
15:24:03 <markus> gavinc: n-triples and n-quads originally planned to publish as one doc
15:24:15 <AndyS> ... NQ, NT: easier as two docs , ready for review next week
15:24:18 <markus> ... we currently have two docs. think it's easier to keep it that way
15:25:57 <pfps> so we are delaying action on Concepts even further??
15:26:19 <markus> sandro: I have some issues with Trig/SPARQL alignment
15:26:32 <markus> gavinc: we already have resolutions on that
15:26:48 <ericP> +1 to could and should address now
15:26:50 <markus> sandro: I understand that but I think we could resolve these problems now pretty easily
15:27:09 <markus> gavinc: there are no open issues at the moment
15:27:13 <yvesr> topic: JSON-LD
15:27:14 <markus> TOPIC: JSON-LD
15:27:26 <yvesr> scribe: yvesr
15:27:36 <yvesr> gkellogg: We had a productive call with pfps yesterday
15:28:00 <yvesr> ... We ended up after an hour of discussion on not refering to the 'JSON-LD data model'
15:28:05 <yvesr> ... But just on 'data model'
15:28:11 <yvesr> ... Which is based on the RDF data model
15:28:27 <yvesr> ... So that we don't perpetuate the idea that there is a distinct data model for JSON-LD
15:28:40 <yvesr> ... There are still issues around native datatypes
15:28:48 <yvesr> ... and about blank nodes as predicates
15:29:01 <yvesr> ... Some important distinctions in the handling of lists and sets in JSON-LD
15:29:16 <yvesr> ... my personal opinion is that JSON-LD lists are exactly the same as RDF lists
15:29:20 <AndyS> where is the list of changes from last LC?
15:29:39 <yvesr> pfps: My first comment is the schism between the two different models
15:29:40 <markus> andys: there's a changelog at the beginning of the doc
15:30:00 <markus> s/andys: there's/andys, there's/
15:30:15 <yvesr> s/models/worlds
15:30:31 <gavinc> well... hey the JSON-LD website changed a lot...
15:30:35 <yvesr> pfps: If the formal basis of JSON-LD ends up being RDF graphs or an extended version of that I would be happy
15:30:36 <AndyS> markus - which is the editors doc currently?
15:30:41 <yvesr> Guus: Can you leave with the current changes?
15:30:46 <yvesr> pfps: I haven't seen them yet, but yes
15:30:58 <markus> andys, it's always on json-ld.org.. we sync to w3.org manually from the time to time
15:31:00 <yvesr> markus: This will require a little bit of back and forth
15:31:10 <yvesr> gkellogg: We think these changes won't require another LC
15:31:23 <yvesr> Guus: Can we leave at that at the moment, pending edits?
15:31:50 <yvesr> sandro: We need to make a decision on whether we need that extension to RDF graphs
15:31:58 <yvesr> ... and whether it should leave in RDF concepts
15:32:10 <yvesr> pfps: It's also possible for the JSON-LD document to define that extension of RDF graphs
15:32:15 <yvesr> .... that said it would be better in RDF concepts
15:32:48 <yvesr> ... If it ends up being duplicated in the two documents, we can still rip that out later from one of those documents
15:32:53 <yvesr> ... It is purely editorial
15:33:17 <PatH> please dont call it a linked data graph.
15:33:20 <yvesr> sandro: If we extended RDF graphs as a, said, 'Linked Data graph', how would it be different from the current definition of RDF graphs
15:33:31 <gavinc> No.
15:33:38 <yvesr> pfps: There are no commonalities between the two atm - everything is being redefined from the ground up
15:33:48 <yvesr> ... the only common ground is IRIs
15:34:11 <yvesr> pfps: It is reasonable to say that Linked Data is what you think of when you're programming against it
15:34:12 <gkellogg> Its hard to see how adding bnode predicates would be described in a Linked Data graph.
15:34:17 <PatH> q+
15:34:26 <gavinc> Yeah, gkellogg, that.
15:34:31 <yvesr> ... RDF provides the details
15:34:40 <markus> markus: I'm afraid that if we call it Linked Data graph we end up having another Linked Data discussion
15:34:43 <yvesr> sandro: Or 'Generalized RDF graph'?
15:34:50 <markus> markus: I would prefer JSON-LD graph
15:35:16 <yvesr> PatH: We shouldn't call anything 'Linked Data graph'
15:35:39 <yvesr> Guus: Thanks for having this discussion which helped resolve this
15:35:40 <PatH> JSON-RDF-graph?
15:35:53 <markus> scribe: markus
15:35:56 <yvesr> topic: Concepts and Semantics
15:36:32 <pfps> consensus has been reached!
15:36:44 <pfps> there is one editorial issue remaining
15:36:49 <markus> guus: antoine can you confirm we reached consensus?
15:37:10 <markus> ... ok, not on the call. is my observation correct?
15:37:11 <PatH> Antoine said he woul dbe late on the call but would be here.
15:37:49 <markus> path: his latest email suggested a niggle about one phrase
15:37:59 <markus> ... maybe an editorial tweak will address that
15:38:10 <markus> ... rest should be ok
15:38:40 <markus> guus: what about datasets and default graphs?
15:38:58 <markus> path: I'm waiting to know what to put in the document
15:39:11 <markus> ... did we resolve that already
15:39:15 <markus> sandro: we did
15:39:41 <markus> path: ok, if we are clear on that I'll update the document
15:40:24 <markus> guus: three messages from pfps
15:40:35 <markus> pfps: the first one is out of scope (bnodes as predicates)
15:40:58 <markus> ... the rest is explaining the current state, all editorial
15:41:14 <markus> ... the third one is a proposal to define generalized graphs and datasets in Concepts
15:41:29 <markus> ... this is the result of the JSON-LD discussion
15:41:51 <markus> guus: I guess "extended" could be "generalized"
15:41:55 <markus> pfps: yes
15:42:01 <AndyS> q+
15:42:05 <pfps> that's 'extended' could be 'generalized', not extended could be generalized (further)
15:42:40 <markus> sandro: would like to get an idea where people stand on this
15:42:50 <pfps> the proposal is to define generalized RDF graphs in Concepts, for use in Semantics
15:43:03 <markus> path: it has come up over and over again in the last decade.. would like to solve it once for all
15:43:11 <pfps> The section could certainly be labelled non-normative
15:43:32 <gavinc> No.
15:43:35 <gavinc> You can't use Turtle.
15:43:43 <markus> sandro: we need to be careful how we phrase it (non-normative etc.) so that people who don't want it don't have to do anything
15:43:51 <gavinc> Correct pfps!
15:44:23 <pfps> one could certainly build generalized turtle, generalized RDF/XML (well, probably not!), ...
15:44:23 <AndyS> ack me
15:44:33 <PatH> q-
15:45:01 <Guus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Jun/0204.html
15:45:20 <Guus> strawpoll: what's your opinion of adding this to Concepts?
15:45:31 <PatH> +1
15:45:32 <markus> +1
15:45:34 <pfps> s/extended/generalized/ and make non-normative
15:45:34 <Arnaud> +1
15:45:35 <markus> sandro: +1
15:45:35 <pfps> +1
15:45:37 <pchampin> +1
15:45:37 <cgreer> +a
15:45:38 <AndyS> OK : but not "define" - discussion text, not definitional
15:45:39 <ericP> +1
15:45:39 <yvesr> +1
15:45:40 <gkellogg> +1
15:45:41 <PatH> Sandro +1
15:45:44 <cgreer> +1
15:45:52 <TallTed> +1
15:46:01 <gavinc> 0
15:46:05 <PatH> a <0.0005?
15:46:19 <Souri> 0
15:46:29 <PatH> Yes I think so yvesr
15:46:49 <cgreer> a == 1
15:47:10 <PatH> Does it allow literals in property position?
15:47:21 <PatH> OK
15:47:24 <AndyS> and datatypes?
15:47:28 <gavinc> "An extended RDF triple is an RDF triple, but with subjects, predicates, and objects all allowed to be IRIs, blank nodes, or literals."
15:47:31 <markus> guus: ok, I think that covered all the discussions we had
15:47:40 <gavinc> Doesn't talk about datatyes
15:47:48 <markus> ... where do we stand with publishing Concepts and Semantics?
15:48:16 <markus> ... we should try to vote on it next week
15:48:41 <markus> pfps: Semantics is more or less done
15:48:55 <markus> ... only thing left is to label some sections as non-normative
15:49:08 <markus> ... Semantics already uses extended RDF graphs
15:49:12 <markus> path: but it doesn't say so
15:49:16 <markus> pfps: yeah
15:49:30 <markus> ... and the semantics of the default graph are not mentioned yet
15:49:49 <markus> guus: have all reviews been addressed?
15:49:52 <markus> pfps: yes
15:51:08 <markus> guus: markus, you have been asked by david to help as editor for Concepts
15:51:27 <markus> markus: right.. waiting for a reply to my questions before making a decision whether I accept
15:51:42 <markus> pfps: I reviewed the comments
15:52:33 <markus> guus: pfps, can you inform the WG when Semantics is ready?
15:52:37 <markus> pfps: yes
15:52:46 <markus> guus: I will ask David to do the same for Concepts
15:52:56 <markus> ... we really need to get it out now
15:52:58 <AndyS> Move on to RDF/JSON?
15:52:59 <Zakim> -cgreer
15:53:10 <PatH> OK peter, you work on it and email me when done, then I can take it from there.
15:53:15 <ericP> gavinc, you should be see the diffs in your inbox
15:53:30 <pfps> action on Concepts editors to add bit on generalized RDF graphs?
15:53:30 <trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/users>.
15:53:54 <markus> action guus to ask david on the LC draft of Concepts
15:53:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-276 - Ask david on the LC draft of Concepts [on Guus Schreiber - due 2013-07-03].
15:54:09 <ericP> i didn't compile diffs for the changes moving all U+FFFF to U+FFFD ('cause U+00..FFFE and U+00..FFFF are non characters)
15:54:19 <PatH> I could help with Concepts editing also. Whatever.
15:54:20 <pfps> I can make changes to Concepts if needed
15:54:26 <markus> sandro: I may suggest peter to step in and just make the changes
15:54:33 <markus> guus: ok
15:54:58 <ericP> gavinc, i take it back. i tried to send it through gmail which is resisting
15:55:06 <markus> TOPIC: RDF/JSON as Note
15:55:11 <gavinc> heh, okay, yeah didn't see it
15:55:18 <pfps> I have no problems with RDF/JSON as a note
15:56:04 <markus> arnaud: I already updated the draft to make the status of the draft clearer
15:56:37 <markus> ... I'm aware that the WG is concerned about publishing two RDF serializations in JSON
15:56:44 <ericP> gavinc, gzip'ing worked. should be there now
15:56:51 <markus> ... all I'm asking to revisit this decision
15:57:01 <markus> ... I'm happy to make all the necessary changes
15:57:02 <AndyS> update to datasets?
15:57:10 <markus> ... just so that we have a stable reference
15:57:34 <markus> ... I updated the draft to clearly state that the WG did chose JSON-LD and that people should use that
15:58:03 <AndyS> I can review
15:58:06 <markus> guus: I would like to have 1-2 WG members to have a look at the current doc
15:58:11 <markus> sandro: will do
15:58:19 <markus> cgreer: me too
15:58:47 <Zakim> - +1.408.992.aaaa
16:00:05 <markus> guus: so there won't be anything to vote on today
16:00:18 <ericP> gavinc, try now?
16:00:20 <markus> gavinc: no, I'll send a mail to the list
16:00:32 <tlr> zakim congestion happening now.  Please end this meeting.
16:00:37 <ericP> (i could have sworn i did that already)
16:00:37 <Zakim> -ScottB
16:00:37 <Zakim> -GavinC
16:00:40 <Zakim> -PatH
16:00:40 <Zakim> -Souri
16:00:41 <markus> ADJOURNED
16:00:41 <tlr> thanks!
16:00:42 <Zakim> -AndyS
16:00:43 <Zakim> -EricP
16:00:43 <Zakim> - +1.415.686.aadd
16:00:46 <Zakim> -TallTed
16:00:46 <Zakim> -Sandro
16:00:48 <tlr> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:00:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see Guus_Schreiber, pchampin, yvesr, Arnaud (muted), markus
16:00:50 <Zakim> -markus
16:00:55 <Zakim> -Guus_Schreiber
16:00:56 <markus> bye
16:00:57 <Zakim> -Arnaud
16:01:03 <tlr> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see pchampin, yvesr
16:01:20 <tlr> zakim, drop pchampin, yvesr
16:01:20 <Zakim> I don't understand 'drop pchampin, yvesr', tlr
16:01:23 <tlr> zakim, drop pchampin
16:01:26 <Zakim> pchampin is being disconnected
16:01:26 <Zakim> -pchampin
16:01:26 <tlr> zakim, drop yvesr
16:01:27 <Zakim> yvesr is being disconnected
16:01:27 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has ended
16:01:27 <Zakim> Attendees were Guus_Schreiber, +1.408.992.aaaa, +1.415.686.aabb, EricP, TallTed, +1.707.318.aacc, cgreer, AndyS, pchampin, yvesr, Sandro, +1.415.686.aadd, GavinC, PatH, Arnaud,
16:01:28 <Zakim> ... markus, Souri, ScottB
16:01:45 <Guus> trackbot, end meeting
16:01:45 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:01:45 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:01:53 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:01:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/26-rdf-wg-minutes.html trackbot
16:01:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:01:54 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/06/26-rdf-wg-actions.rdf :
16:01:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: gkellog to create first version of n-quads test suite [1]
16:01:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/06/26-rdf-wg-irc#T15-22-55
16:01:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: gkellogg to create first version of n-quads test suite [2]
16:01:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/06/26-rdf-wg-irc#T15-23-21-1