IRC log of rd on 2013-06-26

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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7394
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 26 June 2013
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WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
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+[IPcaller]
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+[IPcaller.a]
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IPcaller is me
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zakim, IPcaller.a is me
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+davidsloan; got it
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+??P20
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zakim, IPcaller is me
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+silvia_mirri; got it
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zakim, mute me
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silvia_mirri should now be muted
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zakim, ??P20 is me
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+annika; got it
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zakim, mute me
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davidsloan should now be muted
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zakim, mute me
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annika should now be muted
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+??P30
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zakim, ??P30 is me
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+christos; got it
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+Shadi
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zakim, who is on the phone?
13:32:25 [Zakim]
On the phone I see davidsloan (muted), silvia_mirri (muted), annika (muted), christos, Shadi
13:32:41 [shadi]
zakim, who is making noise?
13:32:51 [christos]
christos, mute me
13:32:51 [Zakim]
shadi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: christos (95%), Shadi (28%)
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+??P32
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zakim, mute me
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christos should now be muted
13:33:43 [shadi]
regrets: Simon, Yeliz, Giorgio, Klaus, Mark, Markel, Kerstin
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zakim, ??P32 is me
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+Yehya; got it
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+[IPcaller]
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zakim, ipcaller is Justin
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+Justin; got it
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scribe: David
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scribenick: davidsloan
13:35:55 [Vivienne]
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13:36:00 [shadi]
agenda?
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+[IPcaller]
13:36:41 [shadi]
Topic: New Charter
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/charter4
13:37:20 [Vivienne]
zakim, IPcaller is me
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+Vivienne; got it
13:37:50 [davidsloan]
comments from previous discussion have been incorporated into updated draft - now under review by W3C management and advisory committee. Likely to be some requests for change.
13:38:14 [Vivienne]
zakim, mute me
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Vivienne should now be muted
13:38:29 [davidsloan]
may require further group discussion to deal with requests. Charter should be in place by 1st July so fast turnaround required
13:38:34 [davidsloan]
zakim, mute me
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davidsloan was already muted, davidsloan
13:39:08 [davidsloan]
feedback from group on frequency of symposia - 3 or 4 per year?
13:39:16 [Vivienne]
it all seemed okay to me when I read it
13:39:28 [Vivienne]
I'd rather be safe and say 3
13:39:38 [silvia_mirri]
I agree with Vivienne
13:40:00 [davidsloan]
yehya - organising symposia is a lot of work, so going up to 4 is a significant extra activity
13:40:50 [davidsloan]
shadi - 3 symposia might be too restrictive in terms of subjects covered
13:40:51 [Justin]
+1
13:41:28 [annika]
q+
13:41:36 [annika]
zakim, acc me
13:41:36 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'acc me', annika
13:41:48 [annika]
zakim, unmute me
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annika should no longer be muted
13:41:49 [davidsloan]
justin - is it possible to include a conditional premise on number of symposia - e.g. "4 if time allows"
13:42:47 [davidsloan]
annika - we are moving towards a scientific conference structure for soliciting, reviewing and accepting papers - maybe review this to reduce effort required?
13:43:17 [davidsloan]
annika - could we experiment with different formats?
13:43:25 [annika]
zakim, mute me
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annika should now be muted
13:44:17 [shadi]
Topic: User Modeling Symposium Update
13:44:21 [christos]
zakim, ack me
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unmuting christos
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I see annika on the speaker queue
13:44:31 [annika]
q-
13:44:43 [davidsloan]
yehya - we have 8 papers, reviewed by scientific committee, all accepted
13:44:44 [christos]
zakim, mute me
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christos should now be muted
13:45:08 [christos]
zakim, ack me
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unmuting christos
13:45:09 [Zakim]
I see no one on the speaker queue
13:46:10 [davidsloan]
yehya, christos - query from authors about upload process of final versions of submissions. shadi - Simon might be able to advise
13:47:25 [davidsloan]
q+
13:48:36 [davidsloan]
shadi - need to ensure that authors submit final rtf or doc fomat papers; symposium organisers should generate clean, valid, accessible HTML from these
13:50:12 [davidsloan]
zakim, ack me
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unmuting davidsloan
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I see no one on the speaker queue
13:51:06 [shadi]
david: for text customization we asked people to send contributions to the mailing list
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...this way it has a referenceable UR I
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2013/user-modeling/#participate
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...looked at the contribution and assessed where we can fit them within the flow of the symposium
13:53:29 [christos]
zakim, mute me
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christos should now be muted
13:54:00 [shadi]
...introduced points at logical points in the symposium
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...also clarified that these are additional non-reviewed contributions
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...to make sure it is clear to listeners
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...but to allow them to introduce their points
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...important to brief the authors about when we expect their input
13:55:31 [christos]
zakim, ack me
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unmuting christos
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I see no one on the speaker queue
13:55:36 [davidsloan]
zakim, mute me
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davidsloan should now be muted
13:57:28 [davidsloan]
shadi - good to encourage additional email contributions from knowledgeable people in the field
13:58:26 [davidsloan]
shadi - additional contributions should help symposium achieve its objectives
13:59:16 [davidsloan]
TC4R did not have a break - it carried on for 3 hours, IIRC
14:00:35 [davidsloan]
shadi - participation for more than 2 hours can lead to concentration lapses
14:01:05 [davidsloan]
...but need enough time to allow each author to contribute adequately
14:01:20 [christos]
zakim, ack me
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I see no one on the speaker queue
14:03:09 [davidsloan]
shadi - formulating questions - helpful to brief authors in advance
14:03:22 [davidsloan]
zakim, ack me
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unmuting davidsloan
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I see no one on the speaker queue
14:05:31 [davidsloan]
zakim, mute me
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davidsloan should now be muted
14:08:31 [christos]
zakim, mute me
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christos should now be muted
14:08:37 [christos]
zakim, ack me
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unmuting christos
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I see no one on the speaker queue
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problems
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with the audio
14:10:10 [davidsloan]
christos - can encourage people to use the public email list to continue discussion after the symposium, if time runs out
14:12:27 [shadi]
Topic: Text Customisation W3C Note Status
14:12:40 [davidsloan]
zakim, ack me
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unmuting davidsloan
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I see no one on the speaker queue
14:13:38 [davidsloan]
zakim, mute me
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davidsloan should now be muted
14:14:16 [davidsloan]
TC4R note - progress has been slow, but davidsloan and shawn to meet soon to agree deadline for delivering draft for review by the group
14:14:34 [Justin]
travelling again?
14:14:38 [Vivienne]
ack me
14:14:54 [Justin]
toodles
14:14:57 [annika]
bye
14:14:58 [silvia_mirri]
you too
14:14:59 [Vivienne]
bye
14:14:59 [silvia_mirri]
bye
14:14:59 [Zakim]
-Yehya
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-christos
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-annika
14:15:08 [shadi]
trackbot, end meeting
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Zakim, list attendees
14:15:08 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been davidsloan, silvia_mirri, annika, christos, Shadi, Yehya, Justin, Vivienne
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-Vivienne
14:15:16 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/26-rd-minutes.html trackbot
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see no action items