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20:06:06 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SEC_WebCryp
20:06:06 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SEC_WebCryp()4:00PM already started
20:06:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Cryptography Working Group Teleconference
20:06:07 <trackbot> Date: 24 June 2013
20:06:09 <wseltzer> chair: Virginie
20:06:21 <wseltzer> Topic: High-level API brainstorm
20:07:26 <wseltzer> scribenick: virginie
20:08:05 <virginie> richard : would prefer to discuss the abstraction of the API to make it more usable
20:08:19 <virginie> ...using pre-combined set of parameters
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20:10:20 <virginie> ... exposing the concept that you want to do, without dealing with the details of implementation
20:10:44 <virginie> Mike : reminds that choice of algorithms have to be in hand of the developers
20:11:25 <virginie> Richard : yes, we need to expose the appropriate choice but hiding the other parameters. E.g. make the dev choosing its public or symetric choice
20:12:07 <virginie> Mike : how many things are already in JOSE : 10 signing, 6 key encryption algo, 4 plain text encryption algo
20:13:19 <virginie> ... a small set of algo have been chosen
20:13:32 <virginie> ... we may produce an api similar to JOSE format
20:14:39 <virginie> Virginie : how do Richard and Mike idea overlap ?
20:14:46 <virginie> Richard : sounds similar
20:15:14 <virginie> as JOSE provides with packages
20:16:55 <virginie> Virginie : how to implement those ideas
20:17:15 <virginie> Richard : simplified abstract API was already expressed in the mailing list
20:17:45 <virginie> ... it could be a JOSE library on top of web crypto API
20:18:18 <virginie> Virginie : when would you be able to do that
20:18:45 <virginie> Richard : there might have someone able to work on it in summer/fall
20:18:58 <virginie> Virginie : what about Microsoft ?
20:19:28 <virginie> Mike : no ressource is planned at the time due to priority management
20:19:57 <virginie> Virginie : what about Mozilla ?
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20:21:21 <virginie> Virginie : what do we report to the WG ?
20:21:36 <virginie> Richard : we can report something to the WG in F2F in fall
20:21:47 <virginie> Mike : +1 to richard
20:22:22 <virginie> ... wikipage could keep track of the use cases and objective
20:22:44 <Zakim> + +1.540.809.aadd
20:22:51 <virginie> Richard : Will provide with the notes on the mailing list
20:23:11 <wseltzer> zakim, aadd is karen_od
20:23:11 <Zakim> +karen_od; got it
20:24:26 <virginie> Virginie : please recap the JOSE context and reference together
20:24:29 <rbarnes> here are the notes i wrote up before: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fO4PtoYrh_y8gR7zgdc9jvB1buw840kRTxMIA1ySv9o/edit?usp=sharing
20:25:01 <virginie> Mike : explains to Karen the status of the discussion
20:28:38 <virginie> Virginie : what about the integration aspects (synch between the server and client)
20:29:08 <virginie> Richard : JOSE took care about that (in case of autogeneration, choices are part of the output)
20:29:44 <rbarnes> philosophy document underlying those API notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u5CEshTRE0KXjZd8hgLaTxBSgMh4ryokutXoGgpUPCA/edit?usp=sharing
20:29:50 <virginie> Mike : Microsft is still motivated to get someone to work on it
20:32:28 <virginie> Virginie : this gives us a roadmap, but we still would need to have developers feedback
20:34:11 <virginie> Richard : testing in the JOSE comunity could make sense
20:36:05 <virginie> Virginie : the milestone could be code writing until Oct, then talking to developers to test first samples
20:38:58 <Zakim> -rbarnes
20:39:00 <Zakim> -jyates
20:39:02 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
20:39:03 <Zakim> -virginie
20:39:03 <Zakim> -karen_od
20:39:04 <Zakim> -Wendy
20:39:04 <Zakim> SEC_WebCryp()4:00PM has ended
20:39:04 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.857.928.aaaa, +1.512.257.aabb, jyates, +1.202.596.aacc, rbarnes, virginie, Wendy, [Microsoft], +1.540.809.aadd, karen_od
20:39:06 <wseltzer> trackbot, end teleconf
20:39:06 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
20:39:06 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
20:39:14 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:39:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/06/24-crypto-minutes.html trackbot
20:39:15 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
20:39:15 <RRSAgent> I see no action items